Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, As always please keep in mind that the aircraft shown in this video are both obviously very classified and therefore these aircraft are based off of publicly available information and its the best we have at this time for simulating a combat scenario between them. thank you again for watching, Much Love.

@broneauell

8 ай бұрын

IRIAF MiG29 vs USAF F-14

@Nightshardyeet

8 ай бұрын

When will you use the J 20?

@generallee011

8 ай бұрын

hey could set up a video where a f-4 gets hit and you try to push him with his tailhook to friendly air space. and could you send me a screen shot of the push.

@Anarchy_420

8 ай бұрын

Please fly The F-4 Phantom VS A-4 Skyhawk Please fly The Rafale VS Typhoon Please fly The F-16I Sufa with Python 5's VS The Gripen with IRIS-T's

@Anarchy_420

8 ай бұрын

Lol that show down at the end!😆👍 was like a western n watching/waiting with anticipation as two gun fighters draw!

Toxic, if you’re reading this, I have mad respect for your ingenuity and skilled piloting. You are a very good combatant to GS and do very well in adapting to whatever GS throws at you!

@sogerc1

8 ай бұрын

I'm also happy whenever Toxic is the guest.

@GrowlingSidewinder

8 ай бұрын

I second this, always a good performance from toxic

@TacoFlavoredKisses

8 ай бұрын

2 peas in a pod!

@Anarchy_420

8 ай бұрын

You'll only get better fighting against the best! ;)✌

@clairecelestin8437

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! Thank you for guest starring and bringing out the fangs!

My understanding of stealth is that not only can a pilot deploy chaff and flares, but smoke bombs are also an option. Plus the pilot can open the cockpit and throw ninja stars at people on his six.

@GrowlingSidewinder

8 ай бұрын

Damn, I forgot to throw my ninja stars in this fight.

@Stef3m

8 ай бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder BTW ninja stars have a name, they are called shuriken. Lets use proper aeronautical terminology

@jhern083

7 ай бұрын

​@@GrowlingSidewinderpilot must exclaim 'SHURIKEN' for the projectiles to deploy.

@Anko88888

7 ай бұрын

Don't forget turning into a log and teleporting behind you, kid

@adamsteinhardt6393

7 ай бұрын

Yes, but do they have pocket sand

u know the battle will be epic when Toxic is on the other side

@jebediahgentry7029

8 ай бұрын

If he doesn't turn reverse 50 times

@920utdoors9

8 ай бұрын

Ya does toxic have a channel

@dystopianlucidity4448

8 ай бұрын

@@jebediahgentry7029 I don’t think Toxic makes that mistake too often.

@michaelszczekot8729

8 ай бұрын

I miss shotgun

@charukakavinda2392

8 ай бұрын

I agree..

GS, the thing I will ask is if you fly the mirror F-22 next time, include showing the taxing, take-off and landing cinematics. The mirror Raptor is just too beautiful to look at. And maybe in the near future, consider flying the J-20. Its a beautiful jet worthy of seeing more of too.

@GrowlingSidewinder

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much and yes agreed.

@sogerc1

8 ай бұрын

Wait, did you just say the J-20 is beautiful? I was just thinking I can't imagine how they could've made the J-20 uglier.

@icaleinns6233

8 ай бұрын

Kinda hard to do that. That is really Megatron. It runs and jumps to take off, then does the super-hero landing! 🤣🤣🤣

@min-jd5lb

8 ай бұрын

@@sogerc1 Aesthetics is a subjective thing. At some angles J20 is indeed ugly like from the top or side, but with a tilted angle it looks great

@sogerc1

8 ай бұрын

@@min-jd5lb As a general rule (in my case), canards make every fighter ugly but for some reason the J-20 is extra ugly, I'm not really sure why, maybe the canard-wing size ratio and that big space between the canards and the wings. I can't find an angle that I'd like. Maybe when on the ground and the canards are in a vertical position then it's okay.

That final passage showing the empty missile bay was such a nice detail. Very good work for both, Toxic and GS.

At one point in FedEx history they used a laser on the bottom of their aircraft to defeat incoming Missiles

@GrowlingSidewinder

8 ай бұрын

Correct me if I’m wrong but that was aircraft flying out of Israel right ?

@maverickmissile801

8 ай бұрын

​@@GrowlingSidewinderso FedEx used it on their planes flying in and out of the middle east (Like Iraq and stuff). Israel Air used and uses lasers on their planes so when no one would fly to Israel cause of the middle strikes, they still could because of their lasers.

@ferai147

8 ай бұрын

We've actually been using lasers for anti-missile defense for years now on aircraft like the C-130. It's a system called LAIRCM (Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasure), which is an upgrade from the original DIRCM (Direct Infrared Countermeasure) system.

@zevynozevyn4102

8 ай бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder yep 👍

@Anarchy_420

8 ай бұрын

@@ferai147 plus The Apache and The Boeing YAL-1! However that was old Chemical laser tech lol The 747 not The Apache ;)

Laser weapons, even high powered ones, are relatively short range weapons because of line-of-sight & atmospheric refraction.

@Ryan-go6id

8 ай бұрын

We’ve already tested shooting down missiles in the 80’s with them

@NameNotAlreadyTaken2

8 ай бұрын

@@Ryan-go6id Those were like megawatt-class chemical lasers, though, so not going to be comparable to what a fighter jet can drive with spare engine power. But you don't necessarily need to explode an incoming missile if you can just fry its sensor.

@tiivc

8 ай бұрын

Adaptive optics are likely to be key to any practical laser weapon beyond short-range point defence. Basically the system watches how the beam distorts in the atmosphere on the way to the target, and then pre-distorts the beam in the equal and opposite manner so that the refraction in the atmosphere actually focuses the beam. As for line-of-sight, even at 1,000 metres altitude the ground horizon is already over 100 km away; at 10,000 metres altitude, you have line-of-sight to a coaltitude target at over 700 km range, etc.

@trs4u

8 ай бұрын

5:41 "incoming missile" there are short-range weapons applications. Is GS imagining something like laser CIWS? Imagine discovering your adversary in a dogfight has omnidirectional laser with destructive power... would it go dorsally, like R2D2?

@localracer

8 ай бұрын

Einhander technology 1998

And to think the F22 is over 30 years old and due to be retired yet our adversaries are still trying to catch up to it.

@ArkhBaegor

8 ай бұрын

??? First flight 1997 introduced in 2005

@gravyd316

8 ай бұрын

​@@ArkhBaegorDevelopment began in 1989.

@akimbo.1887

8 ай бұрын

@@gravyd316 that's like adding the 9 months you were in the womb to your age

@jacoballen5515

8 ай бұрын

@@ArkhBaegorStill, 20 years is a lot.

@MatoVuc

8 ай бұрын

Let's not foget we are talking about a comercial digital simulator here, not actual combat footage

Love the fact that the new coatings make the 22 look like a mid-century bare aluminum fighter.

Just imagine what the real world cost of this engagement would be

@peekaboo1575

8 ай бұрын

In the real world both nations certainly have anti-stealth missiles so you could probably write off both aircraft with everything they brought. Yeah, it'd get silly.

@jeffreyfarlow9862

8 ай бұрын

Like 56 dollars or something 😂

@alphazuluz

8 ай бұрын

To be honest, though, the J-20 is probably made of paper mache, rhino horn pills, and expired bat soup. The paper mache is made from poorly translated, stolen US DoD docs.

@Reggie757

8 ай бұрын

Tree fiddy.

@MaddoxLyrics

8 ай бұрын

@@peekaboo1575 Bro.... dont speak on stuff you know nothing about lmao, theres no such thing as an "anti-stealth" missile

Raptors with freakin laserbeams

It's reflective for IR masking, for sure. I use a FLIR camera quite a bit, and reflective surfaces like that are nearly impossible to get a reading on. You'll get a reading of the environment rather than the surface of the object. This would be a nightmare for IR to focus on. Love the videos. 🤙🏼

@knuckleheadunstoppable

8 ай бұрын

Same goes for lasers.

@briangilbert4420

8 ай бұрын

100% agree. Can also point one at a vending machine and you'll only see yourself lol

@knuckleheadunstoppable

8 ай бұрын

@@briangilbert4420 for sure.

@panan7777

8 ай бұрын

@@knuckleheadunstoppable Fiber lasers cut mirror finish stainless sheet steel way faster that you can run. 10 holes, 1/2" diameter PER SECOND. You can barely follow what they are doing. Latest generations cut several inches thick steel. General public has NO CLUE how fast this is advancing.

@knuckleheadunstoppable

8 ай бұрын

@@panan7777 I believe it, but at what range can they do that? I've seen some of the toys Raytheon has come up with. I wouldn't be surprised if we had lasers that could split the moon at this point. 😁

Watching the Raptor's doors open to drop a missile never gets old for me! 😃 (yes, I am easily amused)

@benn454

8 ай бұрын

"Dear Sir..."

@timsullivan4566

8 ай бұрын

@@benn454 😄😄😄 (See? I told ya...)

@karelpgbr

8 ай бұрын

Me too dude 😂 I love seeing them pop open lol

@timsullivan4566

8 ай бұрын

@@karelpgbr Thanks - glad that it's not just me! 😃

I have read reports from Red Flag where French Raphale pilots have talked about how difficult it is to get a weapons lock on the F-22, even at point blank range on it's six.

Excellent fight. Props to Toxic. Wondering if f22 could find and bring down Darkstar

@man-o-war1685

8 ай бұрын

Probably not to be honest, it’s faster than a lot of air to air missiles

@VIDGamer

8 ай бұрын

by a lot, i think you mean literally everything. only hypersonics could possibly catch up. but even modern missiles would have to be over 3 times the speed to be very effective, so nothing will beat it

GS your upload schedule is fantastic. After a long day of work I can count on a fresh video. Bossin

@GrowlingSidewinder

8 ай бұрын

I appreciate you watching, makes the daily upload schedule worth it to have people keep coming and watching.

I'd love to see some "equal cost" matchups, both BVR and BFM. Something like $500 million worth of F22's vs $500 million worth of F15's. The results would certainty be interesting and might illustrate why we're still flying the F15 and only made a limited number of F22s.

@dclark1980

8 ай бұрын

@minutiesabotage That would be six F-15s versus three F-22s, probably not enough of an advantage to tip it in the F-15's favor.

@OfMoachAndMayhem

8 ай бұрын

yeah, bang-for-buck, I think Raptor still wins.... Though I think you can only get two of them for 500M, but probably that'd still be quite enough

@raymondhale6982

8 ай бұрын

What’s a pilot worth?

@dclark1980

8 ай бұрын

@OfMoachAndMayhem Raptor is $150 million vs $80-$90 million for an F-15

@w0mblemania

8 ай бұрын

The F-22 helmet alone was $400K in 2015... No wonder they stopped making these things.

So, we have seen J20 against F22, we have seen Su57 against F22. Now I would be very intersted to see Su57 against J20. Or Eurofighter against J20

The reflective skin isn't about IR masking or any other kind of stealth or laser reflecting panels. It's for the pilot, so when he gets out of the plane he can check to see just how good he is😊🤣😝

A day with new GS content is indeed a good day

Both you and Toxic did excellent in this matchup. Great stuff! This does make me wonder how a fight between a J-20 and a Felon might go down though.

i love the flyby weapon bay flashes

@GrowlingSidewinder I dunno how you manage to stay cool during these fights. Another good video keep it up 😎

Hey GS, Thanks for all the consistent uploads, I love your videos. Have you ever thought about maybe hosting some sort of dogfight tournament on your channel? It could be a cool set of new content to try out. Of course you would need to carefully construct the rules to avoid every match becoming a Raptor showcase. I can think of a few possible ways to keep it interesting. How do you feel about it?

@ksaechao97

8 ай бұрын

Even more of a challenge...GS is too good, so he'll have to fly the "underdog" jet as well! Love you bro, but you're just too good! Lol

Curious that you`ve gone with the reflective paint Raptor as I just saw a video by Task & Purpose that mentioned it. Apparently that F22 with reflective paint is a test bed for new technologies intended for the NGAD program (Next Generation Air Dominance) and that coating is supposed to make the aircraft harder to detect by both radar and thermal. And yes, NGAD is being envisioned to use directed energy weapons and countermeasures (lasers).

I love that reflective skin on the f22

@garyramirez1420

8 ай бұрын

Makes you want to be a master pilot 😂

Toxic flying great as usual. Great video.

Need to reverse the roles and you take the J-20 w/ Toxic in the 22

Maybe a term to use in place of 'stealth', in order to elaborate on the capabilities, would be to refer to the airframe as 'slippery'. You may be led to believe that you have a targeting solution, but there's a higher probability of a slippery target evading the lock.

Man, I love your dogfight videos! I do wish you would do more WWII dogfights though

Great BVR round, Sir. Well done.

Want to build your own stealth coating? Eat lots of Hot Pockets. The sleeves that are supposed to crisp them have a susceptor coating inside that absorbs EM radiation and converts it to heat. This in turn, makes your Hot Pocket cwispy. But it's absorbing radio waves. The USAF covered the F-22 in Hot Pocket sleeves bros!!

Lasers are indeed starting to be used as weapons. The Navy installed its first permanent laser on a destroyer, the Arleigh Burke-class Preble. I think we are still a ways off from them being small enough to be mounted on any jet fighters. Plus they require a a lot of power.

Love the vid man

Love The Ceramic Stealth Coating! Its also been spotted on F-35's and F-117's as well! The Ceramic/Metallic Stealth Coating is said to slightly further reduce RCS, greatly reduced IR signature, and allows the aircraft to accelerate and maintain higher speeds without worrying about damaging RAM! Btw what AMRAAM did you use in this vid and most of your previous vids? C-5, C-7, or D??*

@NameNotAlreadyTaken2

8 ай бұрын

How does it reduce IR signature? The heat has to go somewhere

@rowdyace5719

8 ай бұрын

@@NameNotAlreadyTaken2knowing Lockheed I honestly wouldn’t be that surprised if they managed to break the laws of thermodynamics

@devdream9277

8 ай бұрын

How does a mirror reduce rcs ? I thought it would reflect radar beam more easily

@Anarchy_420

8 ай бұрын

Keep in mind this is a critically acclaimed (several) award winning journalist!👍

@jonathanpfeffer3716

8 ай бұрын

@@NameNotAlreadyTaken2reflective surfaces really mess with IR sensors

Can you do a video without defending… pushing forward and enter a quick notch… close the distance super quick as he defends your missiles

About Time bruhhhive been waiting for this!! Thank you!! Also wanna see the F-35 VS the J-20 as well in a dogfight

Great content 🔥

Hey, GS.. does Toxic have a channel? Would absolutely love to see the other side of the fight on his end as well! I think that would make for an equally awesome channel as when you two go toe to toe it is always a banger!!

love your vids keep up the good work

Great one! Finally! Toxic is back! Everytime Toxic is the enemy of GS, its so intense!

I believe the Mirrored coating is a prototype visual stealth technology where images can be broadcast onto the skin of the aircraft, like the sky behind the aircraft for example making it incredibly hard to visually acquire.

Going off of you talking about weapon enhancements, I’ve always been curious about if it’d be possible/ practical to creat a missile that has both radar detection and thermal detection so that when you fire the missile and it’s guided by the radar lock, if the bandit goes “cold” the missle could then hone in on the thermal signature. Granted, it’d have to be a highly sensitive thermal sensor to acquire and maintain track for potentially miles, which would also make it susceptible to other heat signatures. I don’t know Jack about the technology but if it was tuned to seek out specific thermal temps maybe it’d be more accurate. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Great vid

J-20 versus Felon next? I loved this video, nice flying by Toxic!

The polished, mirrored effect does make sense. Mirrored, polished aluminum used to the the norm, reduced weight and didn’t make air to air combat any easier.

this is what ive been waiting for goddamnit

Mirror finish looks cool.👍

Damn I think that mirror camo looks damn beautiful

F-22…. It‘s a monster… Love it.

I think the finish you're looking at is testing of new ceramic RAM. The last generation of polymer RAM is speed limited to about Mach 1.6. NG ceramic based ram maintains its properties up to about 2000 degrees F and so will maintain stealth up to hypersonic speed and hugely reduce Mx costs for the RAM essential to reduction of radar signature -- a considerable leap forward.

I'm definitely inlove with the new paint coating of the F-22 Raptor ❤

Work. Of. Art.

Nice Video👍

There is some really interesting research being done on laser harmonics and beam attenuation to let laser beams travel with less atmospheric interference. The real problem is that clouds or rain will always beat lasers, and if your laser pulse doesn’t defeat the target, the melted part of the exterior will very efficiently radiate the heat away and to cooler parts of the airframe, rendering the weapon less and less effective. It seems like for the next few decades at least, lasers will only be used in aircraft to blind sensors and maybe detonate missiles. All that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Air Force or even the Army ends up developing something like the YAL-1 based on solid state lasers for battlefield artillery/rocket/mortar interdiction fairly soon.

@BlyGuy

8 ай бұрын

Yea, would rather they used their laser weapons for that and not destroying Hawaiian villages

@jonathanpfeffer3716

8 ай бұрын

that’s already been developed and [shockingly] contractor claims that it has been used in combat once. (RTX’s CRAM lasers)

Bro like crazy sick

It is cool to see actual F22 in my area to fly around. Playing sims a while back and be called a "cheat" because I programed my controllers correctly was fun.

hey i looked into the mirror camo!! there was also an f-117 nighthawk that had that mirror paint tested as well!!

Dope!

Let me tell you about that mirrored finish.. One guy had a TON of vinyl left over from his car wrap days and he met a guy with the keys to the class 6 shop. A few beer pyramids later........ Fist ACFT even had spinners on the rims.......

Tasty, this could get fun !

The Jay two O hits the drink. Very refreshing 😌

Shoutout to our boi toxic for being part of the fun in these vids

“Without his lifelong friend, puff could not be brave, so puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave.”

Hey GS, nice video man. It would be interesting to see SU 57 vs J20

The mirror coating might be a response to the development of airborne laser target designation systems that themselves were designed (by Russian, China etc.) in response to stealth technology. The coating isn't there to reflect a laser weapon. It's there to defeat an enemy targeting system.

When the F-22 soars low - everyone always pauses, even for a moment - to behold it.

Loved it....

If possible would love to see WWI Biplane vs jet, or Mig 15 VS 4FU

Nice job McFly

what about f22 raptor vs f4 phantom but the raptor can only go half throttle?

I would love to see the tacview of BVR fights in a time lapse at the end!

5:25 Why is the Sidewinder's Chinese equivalent rolled out? Doesn't that compromise stealth? Isn't it too far for that at this point?

Hello GS, i know i'm late but regarding your question about the F22 camo, it's a a way of polishing metal called "mirror polish" (raw translation from french, english word may vary) that makes the metal piece act like a mirror, it doesn't work on radio waves (so radar is not influenced). source : it's my job

Brooo that BF4 theme when the J-20 got shot really hit diffrent. Since the J-20 is associated with BF4 for many people in the first place.

The J20 is a big aircraft and its underside when turning can be seen by conventional radar quite easily.

@ksaechao97

8 ай бұрын

I'm just thinking of those front canards pinging off radar!

The F-22 cobra still lingers in my mind from the last time

You've got the Screamin' Eagle "Stealth Chrome" Kit. Available now at your local Harley Davidson dealer.

Soo we got the Thunderbird air show coming to Orlando FL next month

Another aspect of stealth (as you kind of said) is that any stealth aircraft will still pop up on enemy RWR if they fly with their radar on

We need this video. Revisit the F-15 STOL/MTD Active and pit it against the SU-37 Terminator.

The polished camo might just be like a car with no paint job just primer 🤷‍♀️ or it’s something super freaking advanced I’m losing it thinking of the possibilities

You come at the king, you better not miss.

Please create a Vid with NGAD, SR-72, and B-21! All three DCS* 6th gen aircraft in one scenario!🙏👍

Thanks! Can you provide a link to the outro song? Awesome videos and action Mr. GS.

@GrowlingSidewinder

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, the outro song is the bf4 theme song I believe.

I wonder what the doctrine of present day stealth tech in large scale military action might be, using non stealth assets as a mass diversion, send in the stealth asset from another direction to achieve some mission directive?

The GS Toxic fights are always very good ....that was an awesome bvr fight gentleman

Mirror coating is for the pilot to check themselves with make sure they look good.

Would've liked to have seen a tacview on this one!

The stealth capability of the J-20 is no longer a question, F-16V, F-18 and F-215EX have all detected the J-20 at distances and obtained a missile lock forcing the J-20s to withdraw!

GS, Hear me out Su-57 vs J-20, BVR fight. Let's see how this plays out.

That livery is the best.

I'm a fan. All of it entertaining and really informative. Your channel provides insight, how modern air battles are done and at least I understand it a bit, if not all. Thank you for that. A request if you would be so kind to indulge. A J-20 vs a Su 57 felon. A battle of the communists.

Love the new victory theme

Nice Ace..

Impressive

Interesting that the simulator seems to be showing the new RAM system that is out of the NGAD from development. The real point of interest is the computing power of the sensor systems of the J20. They probably don't have anything close to even what is in the F22 after it's last upgrade. Put two F35 in the area and see how fast the J20's get splashed. The computing power and sensor capability are a league above. The J20 is an interceptor with a better stealth profile forward than backward, and the way your scenario worked out was interesting. I love listening to your ongoing discussion of tactics, your internal monologue is pretty clear!

@duongle1606

8 ай бұрын

I have to ask, what is the source of the data for the comparison of computing power. Just asking in case our country make China pissed by getting closer to the US (definitely did not happen this month)

@charlesrichardson8635

8 ай бұрын

@@duongle1606 Some of the TR3/BLK4 details are out and the computing upgrade has been put out there as a bench mark numbers. The computing power of the F35 is 25x more than the current F35 standard. We have no real data on computing power of the J-20 but we do know the general direction from whence they get their chips. and the comparison would not be in the same order of magnitude.

I played with Toxic a couple days ago. Fun guy!

Still haven't seen a laser system that could do meaningful damage that wouldn't be too big and heavy for anything smaller than a C-130 size platform.

@ozPanzer

8 ай бұрын

I take it you don't work in the defense sector do you? There's stuff out there that we have no idea about.

@bitslammer

8 ай бұрын

@@ozPanzer Unless someone has been hiding a mini fusion reactor there's really not. The amount of power needed for a laser to be able to useful is just too great given our most modern power sources.

@jonathanpfeffer3716

8 ай бұрын

(he doesn’t know about the superhornet laser pods)

@bitslammer

8 ай бұрын

@@jonathanpfeffer3716 LOL...those are targeting/range finding lasers, not laser weapons. Those operate at like 1/10000th of the power a laser weapon would.

@jonathanpfeffer3716

8 ай бұрын

@@bitslammer was a niche joke. all jokes aside though, two large adaptive cycle engines absolutely do have the power generation capacity to power a high energy directed microwave to fry seeker heads, those aren’t very power intensive.