ive's heya and the recent appropriation of Chinese culture

#kpop #文化
#culturalappropriation#ive #heya

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  • @user-pz9lx8li5g
    @user-pz9lx8li5gАй бұрын

    You can borrow from it, but you can't say that the MV style is all Korean culture, it's unquestionably cultural plagiarism!

  • @ginng3810

    @ginng3810

    Ай бұрын

    No, They can’t even borrow it if they don’t state all elements are from China.

  • @LongLivetheCapitalist

    @LongLivetheCapitalist

    Ай бұрын

    LOL the only traditional culture South Korea has is the one that they share with North Korea.

  • @user-rt1wv4tc1s

    @user-rt1wv4tc1s

    28 күн бұрын

    Actually, these are all......

  • @user-rt1wv4tc1s

    @user-rt1wv4tc1s

    28 күн бұрын

    China's traditional culture

  • @user-te6pw7cg9x

    @user-te6pw7cg9x

    28 күн бұрын

    yes,kr theif🤣

  • @Ashley-ashou
    @Ashley-ashouАй бұрын

    Korean please stop cultural appropriation!!!!

  • @yile-cb9ke

    @yile-cb9ke

    27 күн бұрын

    up

  • @Christina-further

    @Christina-further

    27 күн бұрын

    This is so literally disgusting😢😢

  • @tina4959

    @tina4959

    25 күн бұрын

    up

  • @piri8144

    @piri8144

    25 күн бұрын

    up

  • @TeriLin_

    @TeriLin_

    24 күн бұрын

    up!

  • @Lainelainehere
    @Lainelainehere29 күн бұрын

    I’m a Malaysian and I can see a huge difference between Chinese, Korean and Japanese cultural differences. Starship should just admit that they’re using Chinese concept this time.

  • @cloudae1767

    @cloudae1767

    29 күн бұрын

    他们却说这是韩国之美,完全没有提到中国文化,作为中国人,我们肯定非常生气愤怒😡

  • @Bulubulu-qq

    @Bulubulu-qq

    29 күн бұрын

    谢谢马来西亚的姐妹

  • @PipiXiaoHuLi

    @PipiXiaoHuLi

    28 күн бұрын

    Even my Japanese friend thinks this mv use a lot of Chinese culture, Starship! We are not blind!😢

  • @bzzzn

    @bzzzn

    28 күн бұрын

    yea malaysian also. I can only see chinese culture

  • @chogiwa1211

    @chogiwa1211

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@bzzzn Because they are Chinese living in Malaysia too..

  • @chloe2152
    @chloe215228 күн бұрын

    已经不是一次两次了,我每次在PIN上传中国汉服,结果评论每次都有韩国人分不清汉服跟韩服区别在下面喷汉服抄袭,谁抄袭谁啊,搞清楚是谁先创造的

  • @aoko5892

    @aoko5892

    23 күн бұрын

    哪有爹抄儿子的,笑死了

  • @Tinary-qx5lo
    @Tinary-qx5loАй бұрын

    This is Chinese culture! Hope Korean Starship can apologize for the cultural appropriation of this IVE album! Instead of blindly blurred line of sight called the so-called "Korean style"!!

  • @user-hl9pn8vd6p

    @user-hl9pn8vd6p

    9 күн бұрын

    yes.😅

  • @SutarDeng

    @SutarDeng

    4 күн бұрын

    Southief Korea

  • @user-co9jn6hg7n
    @user-co9jn6hg7nАй бұрын

    As we all know ,China has a long history!!!We accept the export of traditional Chinese culture, but this does not mean that Korea can regard our culture as its own!We all love IVE.But we love our country more!It's important to us.

  • @ziyuzhang-ff7sr
    @ziyuzhang-ff7sr29 күн бұрын

    The funniest part is that the Koreans don't even understand the meaning behind certain Chinese elements. In China, white is often associated with funerals, signifying death. So when they see a white Chinese knot, their immediate reaction would be, "Who passed away?

  • @yemu

    @yemu

    18 күн бұрын

    Yes, I second.

  • @ALIEN_857

    @ALIEN_857

    18 күн бұрын

    S Koreans just blindly copying, no creativity

  • @Jade-2024
    @Jade-202429 күн бұрын

    I study East Asian culture, and from what I can tell, Korea isn't respecting Chinese culture this time. They should apologize.

  • @user-ei1ur3ls1k
    @user-ei1ur3ls1kАй бұрын

    Koreans only say that these cultures are their own traditions without providing convincing evidence. Shame on cultural appropriation!

  • @MengWang-kg9jx
    @MengWang-kg9jxАй бұрын

    I just say that! I only find these in Chinese videos, but never find in Korean museums. Why Korean always do such things? That's not good 😢

  • @Xin-ho1zl

    @Xin-ho1zl

    29 күн бұрын

    I have been to the British Museum, and I only saw kimchi jars as Korean artifacts, while there are many Chinese artifacts that are beautiful and stunning❤

  • @l.g.1169

    @l.g.1169

    18 сағат бұрын

    @@Xin-ho1zl No offense but this might be because Britain never ransacked Korea and stole their items like they did with China. I’ve been to museums in Korea and there’s a lot more than kimchi jars there. Beautiful art, furniture, pottery, royal artifacts, books and so much more. Just because Starship is being shady doesn’t mean we can disrespect Korean culture in general.

  • @asdfghjkl-gh8wz
    @asdfghjkl-gh8wz29 күн бұрын

    I scrolled through the comment section of IVE's music video. I did not see one Korean mention one piece of evidence supporting their claim that these elements are from Korea. They are pretty much repeating the sentence "this is Korean culture" without mentioning any evidence to support their claims.

  • @Sumit_Linger

    @Sumit_Linger

    24 күн бұрын

    Me too. I can't see Koreans producing evidence to prove that these belong to South Korea, or even saying that they "originated from" South Korea.

  • @user-zy4il3yl1e

    @user-zy4il3yl1e

    15 күн бұрын

    this ^^

  • @lujixcjml

    @lujixcjml

    11 күн бұрын

    Koreans do that all the time

  • @Fanzy-zu1yw
    @Fanzy-zu1yw27 күн бұрын

    这件事里最搞笑的是mv 里有个花纹和中国最大的电话卡营销商 中国联通china unicom 的logo一摸一样哈哈哈哈哈哈,而中国联通从1994年就是这个logo 了,而且没改版前甚至就是蓝色的……铁证如山,都不知道韩国人还有什么可以狡辩的

  • @twentytwoye

    @twentytwoye

    27 күн бұрын

    对啊,联通要是有迪士尼那种精力是真的可以告他乱用联通商标的,,

  • @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    Күн бұрын

    @@twentytwoye 好像这个告不了,因为中国结是中国的不是联通个人的

  • @user-ly2wq9xt3w
    @user-ly2wq9xt3wАй бұрын

    Korea is not once or twice cultural appropriation, why don't Chinese say Japan? Because they have their own innovation on Chinese culture, while South Korea is directly appropriating and calling it "Korean culture"!

  • @Zeli-ut5xo

    @Zeli-ut5xo

    Ай бұрын

    exactly

  • @Kuma0.0

    @Kuma0.0

    Ай бұрын

    East Asian culture is very charming. Although Japan and Korea were influenced by China in ancient times, the Japanese are very creative. They innovate and have developed their own distinctive characteristics. However, Korea is increasingly appropriating Chinese culture and claiming it as their own, causing Korea to lose its original uniqueness. This is truly a pity.

  • @chloelidd

    @chloelidd

    Ай бұрын

    Agree

  • @Bennett5612

    @Bennett5612

    29 күн бұрын

    agree

  • @user-ot3qg6qp3z

    @user-ot3qg6qp3z

    26 күн бұрын

    日本承认了啊 韩国不承认

  • @focusonmysun9031
    @focusonmysun9031Ай бұрын

    Korean even dont know the name of these things🤣

  • @Hoshino943

    @Hoshino943

    Ай бұрын

    that's themost hilarious part. claming it as Korean while they didn't even know the meaning of these cultures.

  • @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    29 күн бұрын

    maybe they hadn't even seen these elements before this mv was released.

  • @user-zz7sd7jg6o

    @user-zz7sd7jg6o

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@user-jz1vg3qd3pIt’s impossible for the MV to rehearse all the facial expressions and movements😂

  • @moqii370

    @moqii370

    26 күн бұрын

    they just call them patterns but no any exact name,they even know nothing about what they called their own cultural elements.😂funny

  • @childe6029

    @childe6029

    25 күн бұрын

    It's awkward 😅

  • @WebEyeAlissa
    @WebEyeAlissa26 күн бұрын

    K-pop cultural appropriation is very serious, not only Chinese culture, but also rap culture and Egyptian culture. They are already habitual offenders. They use all kinds of appropriation to create their k-pop cultural symbols.

  • @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    Күн бұрын

    完全没有版权意识,简直就是强盗

  • @tsukasa1608
    @tsukasa160829 күн бұрын

    Wah...ini membuktikan ternyata Korea Selatan suka klaim budaya negara lain sebagai mereka punya, hampir semua element-element yang dipaparkan dalam MV ini budaya Cina.

  • @childe6029

    @childe6029

    25 күн бұрын

    Kebanyakan budaya korea mirip dengan China kerana Korea dulunya negara punyaan dynasty Ming pada ribuan tahun yang laku, sejarah dalam China ada record.. Korea pernah ada record tentang dynasty Ming, tapi sekarang korea hapuskan sejarah ribuan tahun Yang lalu, dan cipta sejarah palsu menipu zaman anak korea sekarang, patutlah korea cakap china mencuri budaya meraka kerana mereka tak tahu tentang sejarah yang sebenar.. 🤧

  • @YY-gr9rs
    @YY-gr9rsАй бұрын

    It does look a lot like cultural appropriation...Can the Koreans show evidence of their culture? Ive been to China for New Year and these elements are indeed frequent there

  • @buibuiopolismayor7329

    @buibuiopolismayor7329

    27 күн бұрын

    Korea was a vassal state of China’s Ming Dynasty for many years, that’s why they don’t have Emperors, they only had Kings since the Empire is China. That’s why their Kdrama about that period have clothing very similar if not exactly a copy of the Ming Dynasty style of clothing. They also used Chinese as official language for scholar and royal courts. Their own history is mostly recorded in Chinese. But after they gained independence, they try to erase their own history and now try to claim Chinese derived elements as their own original, even to say China copied them (lmao).

  • @user-dd9nv4jh4p
    @user-dd9nv4jh4pАй бұрын

    I am very supportive of the blogger's point of view. IVE's planning team obviously wants to misappropriate Chinese culture, so please stop this behavior!

  • @lulinhe52
    @lulinhe52Ай бұрын

    the way they borrow it is truly hilarious. They didn’t even know what it means and they start stealing it. Yunji said she loved the image of her imitating smoking opiom OMG hahahahhaha. It’s like saying she likes imitating some western guy getting high on weed🤣🤣🤣

  • @woosnoopy7704
    @woosnoopy770428 күн бұрын

    If the Korean people just say that they are inspired by the Chinese culture and elements, we are 100% ok with it. However, saying these are originally from South Korea is serious cultural appropriation and this needs to be stopped!!

  • @TAKY-fw8ve
    @TAKY-fw8veАй бұрын

    This is Chinese cultrue! Starship and ive must apologize and state that this is Chinese culture!If you don’t , provide evidence!!!Does Korea have any proof that this is Korean?

  • @user-te1li8er3b
    @user-te1li8er3bАй бұрын

    It’s ridiculous that Korean call this Korean culture but they cannot even find the conditions for the formation of culture in their own country,like karst landform

  • @wangliraul
    @wangliraul22 күн бұрын

    I'm from Singapore and my roots are in China. I know a lot about East Asian culture. I know many people don't like CCP, and I also know many people like KPOP. But this does not mean that South Korea can arbitrarily occupy the culture of other countries. Please learn to respect history and facts

  • @user-pb6xw5li2u
    @user-pb6xw5li2uАй бұрын

    I hate to see hypocritical people who hate China (like Korean) yet enjoy all the nice things of Chinese culture, not to mention trying to REBRAND them as so-called KOREAN culture. That just makes me sick!!!!

  • @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    Күн бұрын

    中国人维权,他们甚至恬不知耻的说中国人自卑。真的很恶心

  • @Violetjks-1128
    @Violetjks-1128Ай бұрын

    中国的东西不是你想剽窃就剽窃的,你甚至不明白每个元素的内涵,你怎么敢的!

  • @lulouise549

    @lulouise549

    23 күн бұрын

    補充一下,是指例如ive6個成員對整個mv都蒼白的說我最喜歡這個花紋,那個花紋,特別顯得好像沒有受過教育,當然更可能的是她們完全不熟悉這些文化,對比每個中國人都能說出這是什麼還有有關的證據。例如那個葫蘆娃出現過的一模一樣的山中國是有一模一樣的地形的,韓國森林地區崇拜虎但沒有這個山。

  • @isaaclam861

    @isaaclam861

    9 күн бұрын

    文化本身就是会互相影响的。 跟何况朝先本身就是中国的藩屬國。很多韩国文化都会受到中华文化的影响。

  • @Joanna_new
    @Joanna_newАй бұрын

    芭蕉形状的团扇 和喀斯特地貌的山形 是很明显的中国特征

  • @mohanjiang7621

    @mohanjiang7621

    28 күн бұрын

    虽然韩国也有扇子,那是种造型的明显是中式的,而且那种半透明芭蕉扇只能是用蚕丝制作才可以绘画,他们朝鲜半岛的纬度,即不产芭蕉又不产丝绸,以前哪里来的那种类型的芭蕉扇呀?

  • @user-cnksi223

    @user-cnksi223

    25 күн бұрын

    In Korea, there are many different types of fans with different designs. You may have recently learned about your culture from internet, but we have used our culture continuously from ancient times to modern times. That background painting was created by Korean artist Park Ji-eun, inspired by Korea's national treasure, 'Geumgang jeondo (Complete View of Geumgangsan Mountain) by Jeong Seon.' Please, if you don't know anything about Korean culture, keep quiet.

  • @user-zn3ig2jk7z

    @user-zn3ig2jk7z

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@user-cnksi223你知道扇子是哪里的吗?属于我们中国🇨🇳的文化那为什么传到韩国了呢?因为在韩国还没有的时候韩国的土地是属于我们的😂

  • @Camilasu-jt6jg

    @Camilasu-jt6jg

    23 күн бұрын

    @@user-cnksi223 Maybe you should take a look at this painting《千里江山图》 I want to give this sentence back to you:Please, if you don't know anything about China culture, keep quiet.

  • @kkm0217

    @kkm0217

    22 күн бұрын

    @@user-zn3ig2jk7z 시진핑이 한번 더 문화혁명을 진행하길 바란다. 너희들의 지능과 교육수준에서 KPOP을 들을 준비가 되어있지않아. 자격이없어. 주걸륜 노래나 듣는게좋아

  • @user_17542
    @user_17542Ай бұрын

    大家可以去看IVE最新的采访视频,她们连祥云纹和衣服上的绣花都不知道叫什么,只能用一句苍白的“纹路”来指代。由此可见他们使用的绝对不是自己的文化!KOREA AND IVE STOP CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!

  • @YY-gr9rs

    @YY-gr9rs

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly. They say it's Korean culture but they cant explain or prove it at all. The truth is obvious.

  • @Lily_li_lili

    @Lily_li_lili

    Ай бұрын

    😢😢😢

  • @ShilohDynasty-rl8iu

    @ShilohDynasty-rl8iu

    29 күн бұрын

    yes!!!

  • @lululeopard9717

    @lululeopard9717

    27 күн бұрын

    以前看过一个留学的中国博主分享见闻,有个韩国留学生在课堂presentation里说十二生肖起源于韩国而且他们还用了好几千年,博主当场问他知不知道1988汉城奥运会是什么年,他支支吾吾说不出来,在各国学生面前露馅了😂课堂老师也警告他不要张冠李戴文化挪用😂真是偷都偷不明白,没那么大的头就别带那么大顶帽子

  • @snowdrop-in6ty

    @snowdrop-in6ty

    26 күн бұрын

    太赞同了,只会说这个纹路那个纹路,而大街上随便抓个中国人都至少能说出一个名字

  • @cimic-ty2fb
    @cimic-ty2fb29 күн бұрын

    ประเทศจีนมีวัฒนธรรมประวัติศาสตร์อันยาวนาน ผมศึกษาอยู่ที่ประเทศจีน และยังได้เรียนรู้วัฒนธรรมประวัติศาสตร์จีนอีกมากมายชาวเกาหลีเป็นขโมยและพวกเขาขโมยวัฒนธรรมของประเทศอื่น ๆ มากมายค่ะ

  • @yxinyu1028

    @yxinyu1028

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you my friend❤❤

  • @user-sn9fe7wj4s

    @user-sn9fe7wj4s

    21 күн бұрын

    是的他们还偷了泰国的“烤肉”

  • @yoxomx0

    @yoxomx0

    20 күн бұрын

    Shut up chinese

  • @user-em9rd3kr4i

    @user-em9rd3kr4i

    18 күн бұрын

    谢谢你🥰

  • @user-tt1ks8rr8r

    @user-tt1ks8rr8r

    15 күн бұрын

    Thank you for supporting❤

  • @CoraB5566
    @CoraB5566Ай бұрын

    Why do Koreans come against me?I've been to China and Korea, and in China these elements are very common, and Chinese museums are full of these elements. But I haven't seen it in Korea, which has other elements of its own. A country without cultural confidence goes back and wants someone else's culture. I am disappointed in such people.

  • @Xin-ho1zl

    @Xin-ho1zl

    29 күн бұрын

    I have been to the British Museum, and I only saw kimchi jars as Korean artifacts, while there are many Chinese artifacts that are beautiful and stunning

  • @CoraB5566

    @CoraB5566

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Xin-ho1zl KIMCHI JIAS?what's that.. I still have a lot to learn…I mean if I had a chance to go to the British Museum

  • @thinthin8024

    @thinthin8024

    27 күн бұрын

    泡菜国就是泡菜国😂

  • @RachelXu-xv7qt

    @RachelXu-xv7qt

    27 күн бұрын

    @@CoraB5566 A jar of pickled hot and sour cabbage

  • @openbook8068

    @openbook8068

    20 күн бұрын

    Exactly

  • @AlisaGoldberg-du8nr
    @AlisaGoldberg-du8nrАй бұрын

    Once I said I ate sushi, a Korean guy corrected me saying it was Korean gimbap. It's weird. Asian cultures often influence and borrow from each other, so there are some similarities. I don't understand why Korea likes claiming traditional Chinese or Japanese culture as their own simply by making slight changes.

  • @xnxn_5u

    @xnxn_5u

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly! Why do Koreans think every East Asian culture as their culture??🤦🏻‍♀️ They do need to respect other cultures

  • @myys_joyce1186

    @myys_joyce1186

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂cause they don’t have their own history., or maybe they’re just ashamed of their own culture. They should feel more confident about their culture instead of keeping doing the culture appropriation. They do have many beautiful culture of their own but even themself can’t accept it which is so weird!!!

  • @Xin-ho1zl

    @Xin-ho1zl

    29 күн бұрын

    South Korea always likes to add Korean style to things and turn them into its own, such as Japanese sushi and American fried chicken. According to this logic, can Kpop also be from Asia

  • @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    29 күн бұрын

    koreans always want to steal other country‘s culture only by uttering words .how ridiculous they are!they can’t even present evidence to prove their words

  • @clara-bj4gy

    @clara-bj4gy

    28 күн бұрын

    Korea is the origin of the entire universe😅😅

  • @lilithawitch
    @lilithawitch29 күн бұрын

    All most all of those traditional elements Koreans claim as their own tradition can to be found in Chinese national and local museums, as well as in numerous excavated sites, and you will find that they all pre-date Korea.[CONTINUOUSLY UPDATING] 1.Basic motif: The only thing that is really Korean is the story of the sun, the moon, and the tiger, and the paintings of tigers. But I'm not sure if tiger drawings can be called a special culture, because tiger drawings using similar painting techniques existed in China a thousand years ago, and tigers didn't exist for the vast majority of Korean history. 2.The cloud pattern: We all know that when talking about traditional culture, it is important to know if it has been used and passed down. During the Goryeo period, Korea learnt the cloud pattern from China, but it was rarely used in almost all aspects of life, such as architecture, carving, painting, clothing and everyday objects. The only example you can give is the Goryeo celadon, and when you go to look for his notes you find that the Goryeo artists learnt from the Central Plains, both in terms of the celadon and the motifs. Some knowledge: 1)Goryeo successively submitted to the Later Tang, Later Jin, Later Han, Later Zhou, Northern Song, Khitan (Liao Dynasty), Jin Dynasty, Mongolia (Yuan Dynasty), Ming Dynasty and other continental countries, and Goryeo established a centralised state system in imitation of the Tang system. Culturally, Buddhism and Confucianism dominated.) 2)Generally, the cloud and thunder pattern, which is mostly found in the decoration of Chinese Shang and Zhou bronzes, is regarded as the early form of cloud pattern. There is a relatively obvious succession relationship between the Chu-Han Cloud&Gas pattern, the pre-Qin scrolling cloud pattern, the Shang-Zhou Cloud&Thunder pattern, and the Neolithic painted pottery spinning pattern. The Han Dynasty is the most extensive use of cloud pattern, but also one of the richest and most vivid cloud pattern form. There appeared a new type of cloud pattern form, such as cloud gas pattern, scrolling cloud pattern, cloud animal pattern and so on. Wei Jin and North and South Dynasties period evolved into flowing cloud pattern. Since the Tang and Song dynasties, in response to the aesthetic requirements of the times and the increasingly rich decorative elements, evolved stacked cloud pattern, which is a kind of face-like unfolding, spread, complex cloud pattern type. It is generally made up of layers of dense hooks and scrolls of cloud head, plus curved, flowing and smooth line cloud body and composition. In the Chinese cloud pattern system, the Ruyi cloud pattern is one of the most abstract character and widely recognised and applied types. This is precisely the style of cloud pattern that is currently being appropriated. 3.Tobacco pipe: We don't know how the Chinese and Korean styles of tobacco pipes came to be. The available information suggests that Chinese pipes and tobacco were brought to China by the Portuguese from South America, with the earliest discovery being the Ming Dynasty (1549). In contrast, Korean pipes and tobacco were brought to Japan by the Portuguese and then introduced to Korea. In short, none of them were invented in East Asia. The point people care about is not whether he's Chinese or Korean specific (if some one say they are unique to China I admit that’s wrong and thoughtless), they feel offended because the pipe was used heavily in the Qing Dynasty when British opium dumping into China, it's actually became a symbol of opium and the opium wars of the British colonialists against China, which is tragic history, and the fact that mv, while using an overabundance of other Chinese elements, has the idol posed the same way as the Qing addicts were posed smoking opium is taken by many people rightfully taken as mockery, and I'm not going to explain anything for them, it could indeed be a misunderstanding. 4.Tuanshan(also callled Moon-shaped Fan, compared with Folding Fan ): Originated in China and developed in China and Japan. Many Koreans don't even realise why the Chinese only accuse Koreans of cultural appropriation. Japan also learnt a lot of traditional culture from China and applied it to various works of art and life, but the Chinese still recognise the uniqueness of Japanese culture when many people hate the Japanese so much because of World War II. This is because Japan learnt and recreated these cultures and arts according to its own national culture and preferences, which embodied Japan's unique national spirit and formed a unique style that allowed the development of Chinese culture. Korea, in contrast, has virtually copied Chinese and Japanese culture, has contributed almost nothing to the development of Han culture, and has made minimal unique contributions to East Asian culture, only imitating and making small changes without a spiritual core of the culture all the time and claiming that it is its own traditional culture (e.g., Chinese Knots). You can even see it in kpop - Korea is like a culture tailor and specialises in all sorts of cultural patchwork. The fan originated in China and has a history of more than 3,000 years, first appearing in the Shang Dynasty, and is an integral part of Han culture, which is closely related to the bamboo and Confucian cultures. Its shapes include round, petal, rectangular, banana(the one in the mv), tung leaf, oval, square, and hexagonal. The fan was introduced to Japan from the Tang Dynasty during the Nara period. The fans were first used in Japan by court nobles. It was not until the end of the Heian period that they were allowed to be used by the common people. You can find specific descriptions on Google, so I won't go into details. 5.Sun God Bird motifs - never existed in Korea. The Korean formula for stealing culture is as follows: as explained in the 4th fan, the Koreans first claimed that it was a common culture in East Asia, creating the term " Oriental style" (东洋风, in which most of the contributions were made by China and Japan) - Korea belongs to East Asia - so it is also a traditional Korean culture - and finally it became a unique Korean traditional culture (the Korean government has applied for many "East Asian" cultures, festivals, and arts as World Heritage, even the Chinese characters, yet they failed ) - and then they end up claiming some cultures which have never existed in Korea's history as their own. For example, the sun god bird motif in the mv is derived from the ancient Shu culture of China [now the Sichuan region of China (yes that's where that szechuan hot sauce comes from, and now there's a Korean chef in the US who steals even that), represented by the cities of Chengdu and Chongqing], and has completely nothing to do with Korea. The pattern in the mv and China's excavation of the sun god bird gold foil is the same, it is considered to be China's "golden crow carries the sun " myth of the true reproduction of the story, is a direct physical evidence of the ancient Shu culture of the sun worship , and also on behlf of the ancient Shu people's superb gold processing technology. 16 August 2005, the "Sun God Bird" gold jewellery was officially identified as a symbol of China's cultural heritage. 6.T-shaped silk painting - never existed in Korea. MV's illustrator almost copied the T-shaped silk painting from the Mawangdui Han Tomb Museum in Changsha, and put the cosmic concept of harmony between heaven, earth and human beings in Chinese characters into her own work, learnt the Chinese culture, but took it for her own use and claimed that it is the beauty of Korea.

  • @user_17542

    @user_17542

    19 күн бұрын

    讲的太好了!

  • @user-ny9fk5kr1g

    @user-ny9fk5kr1g

    17 күн бұрын

    科普的好完整👍

  • @soso3809

    @soso3809

    8 күн бұрын

    up

  • @rosalynelippington
    @rosalynelippington26 күн бұрын

    I’m Chinese Indonesian and yep. This is Chinese. Korean culture may have been inspired by it but this is undoubtedly Chinese.

  • @user_17542

    @user_17542

    19 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your fair comment❤

  • @MengWang-kg9jx
    @MengWang-kg9jxАй бұрын

    oh I just say that! I only find these in Chinese videos, but never find in Korean museums! I am glad you tell us the truth! Why Korean always do such things? That's not good 😢

  • @user_17542

    @user_17542

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much❤ We should all stand together because the Koreans aren't only stealing Chinese culture but also African culture and other Asian cultures!

  • @Xin-ho1zl

    @Xin-ho1zl

    29 күн бұрын

    I have been to the British Museum, and I only saw kimchi jars as Korean artifacts, while there are many Chinese artifacts that are beautiful and stunning

  • @KKbehappy
    @KKbehappyАй бұрын

    ขณะนี้ฉันกำลังเรียนรู้ภาษาจีนในประเทศไทยและศึกษาวัฒนธรรมจีนที่แท้จริง เช่น โบราณสถาปัตยกรรมจีนและภาพวาดภูเขาและน้ำตกของจีน คาดว่าเกาหลีจะหยุดการย้ายถ่ายวัฒนธรรมจีนเมื่อใด ๆ ได้หรือไม่?😢😢😢

  • @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you ❤my friend❤❤❤

  • @cptbtptp1121

    @cptbtptp1121

    29 күн бұрын

    Thank you ❤

  • @twentytwoye

    @twentytwoye

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you❗

  • @Littlegrapepig

    @Littlegrapepig

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you🎉😢

  • @thinthin8024

    @thinthin8024

    27 күн бұрын

    谢谢你

  • @elv-cv9br
    @elv-cv9br29 күн бұрын

    If Koreans think this is your culture, then produce evidence.STOP CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!

  • @leesimone2645

    @leesimone2645

    11 күн бұрын

    They did PRODUCE evidence before. They stolen a wall painting from a Chinese tomb last century. That wall painting is now in Korean’s museum 😂😂😂😂

  • @claraswift466
    @claraswift466Ай бұрын

    KPOPを広めるために他国の文化をそのままパクるのは、恥ずかしいじゃない?😢

  • @Xiaohanchenx

    @Xiaohanchenx

    28 күн бұрын

    他们不仅不会感到羞耻 还在电视上说是中国粉丝太敏感在抢夺韩国文化 真是贼喊捉贼 没有良心😢

  • @user-lc1nw2ww7x

    @user-lc1nw2ww7x

    28 күн бұрын

    他们的目的是以Kpop为媒介挪用其他国家的文化,想偷偷的的把其他国家文化变成自己的,强盗怎么会对此感到尴尬,只会沾沾自喜!

  • @ueda-loki

    @ueda-loki

    28 күн бұрын

    ずうずうしすぎる

  • @mintlee2626

    @mintlee2626

    28 күн бұрын

    It is more likely to use kpop to steal culture than to spread kpop

  • @user-cnksi223

    @user-cnksi223

    26 күн бұрын

    Japcel

  • @Hoshino943
    @Hoshino943Ай бұрын

    I want you Chinese to understand that K-pop has taken not only your culture, but also African, Thai, India and Japanese cultures, etc, and we truly should stand together. These people are known for discriminating against South East Asian and African countries, however they go out of their way to appropriate cultures from these regions..which is rude.

  • @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    Ай бұрын

    exactly, I agree

  • @YY-gr9rs

    @YY-gr9rs

    Ай бұрын

    I think friendly exchanges between cultures are encouraged, but it's shameful to appropriate other cultures like Koreans do

  • @QWQ485

    @QWQ485

    Ай бұрын

    I'm chinese and I agree with you, like why did they do that?!!!thay have some culture bur they just "use" others culture and say that's from Korea 😅

  • @hazew8413

    @hazew8413

    29 күн бұрын

    Yeah I always thought I saw a lot of black culture elements in kpop

  • @Xin-ho1zl

    @Xin-ho1zl

    29 күн бұрын

    South Korea always likes to add Korean style to things and turn them into its own, such as Japanese sushi and American fried chicken. According to this logic, can Kpop also be from Asia

  • @user-tw5rh8bf9v
    @user-tw5rh8bf9vАй бұрын

    并非不能借鉴,但绝不允许偷窃

  • @dearth04
    @dearth0428 күн бұрын

    upup😭😭博主如果你有tiktok的话感觉流量会比油管好一点

  • @wenwen-wk5sd
    @wenwen-wk5sdАй бұрын

    Koreans only say that this is their culture, but unfortunately, they don't have any real and accurate evidence to prove it.

  • @PipiXiaoHuLi

    @PipiXiaoHuLi

    28 күн бұрын

    Exactly!!!!!!

  • @Cmy-nj2sz
    @Cmy-nj2szАй бұрын

    如果韩国人没有偷窃,请拿出你们博物馆的文物来对应,否则请为偷窃中国文化道歉

  • @luanbeilantu5648

    @luanbeilantu5648

    28 күн бұрын

    就怕他们把买来的中国文物放进博物馆并说那是他们自己的。。。。。以及把花钱把其他地方展出的中国文物直接标成韩国的

  • @johnweak9230

    @johnweak9230

    28 күн бұрын

    买?直接偷国内的壁画,放到他们博物馆说是自己的🤢搜一搜就有​@@luanbeilantu5648

  • @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    28 күн бұрын

    @@luanbeilantu5648可能还是来中国偷的,也发生过这样的事。哦,还可能是淘宝买的😂

  • @MelodyZ909

    @MelodyZ909

    27 күн бұрын

    @@luanbeilantu5648已经有这样的事情发生了 买了中国的文物放进韩国的博物馆然后说这是韩国文物 真tm癫

  • @zhello-bf5ch

    @zhello-bf5ch

    27 күн бұрын

    淘宝搜索

  • @hyyyyxxyy
    @hyyyyxxyyАй бұрын

    Вау, это китайский стиль. Вы правы, Корея копирует культуру.

  • @LucyChan-bx9jo

    @LucyChan-bx9jo

    Ай бұрын

    Actually they steal and claim it's their culture

  • @noddrua1451

    @noddrua1451

    28 күн бұрын

    Спасибо ❤

  • @BBarNavi

    @BBarNavi

    27 күн бұрын

    naxuy idi

  • @WenliHan-bl3vm

    @WenliHan-bl3vm

    23 күн бұрын

    точно! Это культурная апроприация.

  • @EchoQAQ
    @EchoQAQ28 күн бұрын

    如果可以的話 請各位多多轉發給身邊的朋友 令他們的陰謀消失!如果這次不發聲的話 誰知道他們下次偷的是誰的?保護每個國家的文化 拒絕文化挪用!!!

  • @dorothy1345
    @dorothy134528 күн бұрын

    I went to check the historical evidence as Koreans ask me to do. But it seems that they just claimed the relics as Korean, ignoring that these designs were exactly the same as they were in China back at that time and Koreans barely made any change by themselves. Many of the relics were made as tributes for the Chinese emperor, which is recorded in history and also claimed by Korean scholars. Conversely, I once visited a museum in Kyoto, and many of the relics were labeled as Chinese as long as they were Tang style. I was wearing Tang hanfu and a staff recognized that, and this experience really moved me a lot.

  • @meowrax4697
    @meowrax4697Ай бұрын

    We have a lot of historical evidence that these are Chinese cultures😊😊😊

  • @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    @user-jz1vg3qd3p

    29 күн бұрын

    Koreans even can‘t present only one evidence!they can just by uttering words

  • @user-kq4cd4dw3w
    @user-kq4cd4dw3wАй бұрын

    We are protecting our culture, but people in other countries think we are crazy, and hope that there will be a platform in the future that can fairly let us prove to each other the origin of culture, rather than relying on the popularity of kpop to steal our culture and blind everyone in the world 我们在维护我们的文化,但其他国家的人觉得我们在发疯,希望未来有一个平台能公平让我们互相证明文化来源的归属,而不是靠着韩国kpop的流行强硬抢走我们的文化,蒙蔽世界所有人的眼睛

  • @childe6029

    @childe6029

    24 күн бұрын

    说得好!

  • @user-xy6wl7ny6v

    @user-xy6wl7ny6v

    24 күн бұрын

    It's really unfair, it's clear that they are thieves, why are we blamed for being victims yesterday?

  • @leesimone2645

    @leesimone2645

    11 күн бұрын

    Using kpop and kdrama to steal other countries’ culture is unacceptable!!!

  • @IJell-ns5di
    @IJell-ns5diАй бұрын

    Respect the culture of the country, don't help thieves just because like kpop. This isn't the first time cultural appropriation has happened. This is not just about protecting China, but also about protecting everyone's culture from being stolen in the future.

  • @leesimone2645

    @leesimone2645

    11 күн бұрын

    Exactly! Despite Chinese culture,The African culture, Japanese culture had already been stolen by K-pop long ago.

  • @krystalluo1619
    @krystalluo161928 күн бұрын

    It is so funny when some Koreans said "the cloud patterns and landscape patterns are common in Korean painting". First, instead of simply calling it a "pattern" do you even have a Korean name for it without referring to any Chinese characters? Do you even know the meaning of each "Korean-style" element in the video, and the name? Second, you don't even have that Karst landscape, how would you say that landscape is common in Korean painting? If the member claimed that their mv showed "the beauty of Korea", why is that kind of beauty not found anywhere in your territory? Bruh, remember you were just a vassal state of China, and your tributary relationship just ended around the 1900s, admit that you guys borrowed a lot from Chinese Culture, it's not a shame or something. Japanese also did borrow cultural stuff but they never claimed that it originated from Japan but China, this is the difference. Stop being a robber and claiming everything that you don't even have a historical record of LMAO. Also to those of you said that it's common in Korean painting, history, or whatever, show me and let's see if there're any Korean characters on it haha. Oh and don't say the Chinese characters were invented by Koreans if not^^. Don't use the influence of Kpop to claim something that has nothing to do with y'all. Changing the color of the text in your essay won't make the plagiarism detector say "original content".

  • @krystalluo1619

    @krystalluo1619

    28 күн бұрын

    and yeah, open your eyes and accept the reality. just saw someone saying that "Chinese only see what they believe", bro I just wanna say that you cant even see lollll. you just simply denied the truth and being paranoid haha.

  • @ALIEN_857

    @ALIEN_857

    18 күн бұрын

    Just look at S Korea's bland landscape and you'll know they don't have much of a rich natural diversity to develop great creativity.

  • @cleanerinhogwarts7117

    @cleanerinhogwarts7117

    10 күн бұрын

    like what?plastic surgery?🤣🤡

  • @loliz7865
    @loliz7865Ай бұрын

    うわあせっかくの中国風、一目瞭然です!音楽のビデオの中で現れた要素、吉兆の雲の紋を見て、中国の結び目、刺繡の靴、山水画、伝統のすばらしさを感じます!

  • @ld7952

    @ld7952

    28 күн бұрын

    这位翻译机用得好溜啊

  • @nemo3241

    @nemo3241

    20 күн бұрын

    韓国は日本や中国の文化を無差別に剽窃… K-POPアイドルは盗用じゃないものがあるのか。 おそらくそれは全て「朝鮮発祥」というはずでしょうか?😂

  • @sizhefang302
    @sizhefang302Ай бұрын

    South Korean please stop cultural appropriation!!!!

  • @Hannahlau27
    @Hannahlau2721 күн бұрын

    Many Koreans do not accept the theory that their culture originated from China precisely because it is a stark reality. China's influence on East Asia is like Rome's influence on Europe. Completely erasing the traces of Chinese influence and claiming the culture as entirely one's own creation is simply madness. On this point, Koreans really should learn from the Japanese, who never hesitate to express how their culture has been influenced by China, perhaps because they have greater cultural confidence and stronger cultural identity.

  • @Annyu20

    @Annyu20

    20 күн бұрын

    Yes that’s why I love japeanese more.

  • @luckymissy6255
    @luckymissy625524 күн бұрын

    As a jp person I can obviously tell apart Chinese, Korean and Japanese art/traditions even if we share similarities so I was very confused about Heya. When I saw the trailer I was like oh cool they're doing a chinese inspired MV. But then people called it "korean" and I thought...this is korean? I didn't know Korea had this aesthetic? I never saw this in Korea before (My hobby is anthropology and I focus on asia so I know a thing or two about Korea as well) I am aware that these 3 countries have many similar practices, foods, mentality and culture because of cultural exchange and probably shared origin as well but they have evolved distinctively enough to be their own thing. It's ok to share/borrow but it's weird af to claim something as yours that obviously isn't yours. Some people shamelessly rip off other cultures but I also think a lot of asians are confused about the exact origins of their "versions" of similar things because of complicated history and lack of information about ancient exchanges and influences from China. China is a much older country which influenced Japan and Korea a lot and nowadays some things can be considered "Japanese" and "Korean" versions or adaptations. It's fine to integrate other cultures into your own and back then a lot of aesthetics and ideas were exported from China but the problem with this MV is that it doesn't just use the chinese influenced korean aesthetic but the actual core aesthetic looks purely chinese and not korean in the slightest. Thanks for confirming my suspicions that this is Chinese inspired, not Korean. And thanks for spreading the importance of crediting cultures, as a japanese person I am aware that the most famous japanese foods like Ramen and Gyoza are influences of China and I never forget that because I know what it feels like when people wanna claim things or call their bathrobe or cardigan a "Kimono" (which in itself is also influenced by Hanfu)

  • @user-ny9fk5kr1g

    @user-ny9fk5kr1g

    17 күн бұрын

    谢谢你的发声❤

  • @leesimone2645

    @leesimone2645

    11 күн бұрын

    U r right! Influenced by Chinese and copy from Chinese are totally different! We should show respect

  • @user-kj6uc2qb7w

    @user-kj6uc2qb7w

    Күн бұрын

    Is it easy to understand that the shareholders behind them and the shareholders behind the Western media smearing China are the same people?

  • @jonghyun4716
    @jonghyun4716Ай бұрын

    これは初めてのことではないようです

  • @yixuanliu2747

    @yixuanliu2747

    Ай бұрын

    日本也被韓國人偷過嗎

  • @user-yo2vs6gd4g

    @user-yo2vs6gd4g

    Ай бұрын

    韓国は長年にわたり、中国文化と東洋スタイルの融合を計画しており、中国文化を学び、それを韓国で広めた後、韓国文化となった。

  • @QWQ485

    @QWQ485

    Ай бұрын

    别的视频评论说韩国人是寿司是他们的哈哈哈,东亚文化有互相影响,但是日本有发展自己的文化,韩国直接拿,真是无语

  • @user-wz7ic6bs8u

    @user-wz7ic6bs8u

    28 күн бұрын

    @@user-yo2vs6gd4g 泡面是他们的国宴

  • @xiaoxuanlu7468

    @xiaoxuanlu7468

    28 күн бұрын

    like Chinese medicine are called Chinese medicine in most countries,however in korea ,they directly change it into“korea medicine”…

  • @hazekk_vw
    @hazekk_vwАй бұрын

    あっ、ミュージックビデオ一つにこんなに多くの文化を流用するなんて信じられません😮

  • @shuwan24

    @shuwan24

    Ай бұрын

    yes!

  • @xin4586

    @xin4586

    Ай бұрын

    Because they are good at stealing……😂

  • @is8249

    @is8249

    29 күн бұрын

    使っても良いけど、オリジナルだと主張するのはちょっと…

  • @ougcenLee

    @ougcenLee

    28 күн бұрын

    cultural misappropriation

  • @xin4586

    @xin4586

    28 күн бұрын

    @@is8249 Yes,China welcome culture sharing and co-creation,which does Not mean t Culture, appropriation and stealing.

  • @olleh2162
    @olleh216229 күн бұрын

    damn that's wild, it's kinda like your classmate stealing your homework, changed one word, then said that it was their homework. i would be PISSED af if that was me

  • @lulu-cl5rq
    @lulu-cl5rq26 күн бұрын

    有人从首页推送进来的吗。。是不是不自己主动搜就永远刷不到这条啊

  • @qiuhuiwang693

    @qiuhuiwang693

    22 күн бұрын

    主动搜索进来的,油管才不会给人推这个😂

  • @user-lt5lv7nv1m

    @user-lt5lv7nv1m

    15 күн бұрын

    我也是搜索进来的

  • @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@user-lt5lv7nv1m 可以复制视频主题去IVE MV 评论科普

  • @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    @user-yn6vt8vd7z

    Күн бұрын

    可以复制视频主题去IVE MV 评论科普

  • @MoonyW-17
    @MoonyW-17Ай бұрын

    It's no different from thievery to borrow culture and cite the source instead of just saying it's "Korean culture". Chinese culture has a lot of evidence to support its history, while Koreans always think that they are the source of the universe, denying everything that is not favorable to them. I hope that Koreans can face everything that belongs to their own country with dignity, and accept their own culture instead of plagiarizing the culture and history of other countries.

  • @AAAmazon030
    @AAAmazon030Ай бұрын

    Land nurtures civilization. China is one of the four ancient civilizations with a history of thousands of years. China has vast territory and abundant resources, with a land area of approximately 9.6 million square kilometers. Different lands nurture different people, and humanity has derived its own culture from this. This is why Chinese culture is vast and profound.

  • @Kuma0.0
    @Kuma0.029 күн бұрын

    Since Koreans claim that origin doesn't matter, why do some of them insist that Chinese Korean ethnic clothing is stolen from Korea? Why do Koreans say kimchi originated in Korea? Is promoting 'cultural appropriation' nationalism? Koreans indeed have double standards.

  • @user-hi8ly4wi1s

    @user-hi8ly4wi1s

    28 күн бұрын

    韩国真的很野蛮。如果不准朝鲜族穿朝鲜服,难道要让他们穿汉服吗~😂

  • @yyyyit8624
    @yyyyit8624Ай бұрын

    Нам нравится kpop, но это не причина, по которой вы можете украсть из других стран!😅

  • @user_17542

    @user_17542

    Ай бұрын

    Can't agree more!

  • @Evelyn-vb1fj

    @Evelyn-vb1fj

    29 күн бұрын

    Да!

  • @Sophy-100
    @Sophy-100Ай бұрын

    Support! This is Chinese culture! Koreans like plagiarism so much!

  • @nyxiekitsune6
    @nyxiekitsune6Ай бұрын

    It’s simply cultural appropriation to lift aspects of one culture and claim it as your own :/ I cannot imagine the outrage this would cause if this was any culture but Chinese. Unfortunately Sinophobia runs rampant in today’s society, but people must learn to differentiate their political opinions from the simple fact that it’s always wrong to appropriate another’s culture as your own, especially in such a disrespectful way.

  • @syyttiow3285
    @syyttiow328528 күн бұрын

    The painter really has no way to quibble. You can clearly see that his post on Instagram was tagged Chinese painting but was deleted after being discovered.

  • @kuhujoy
    @kuhujoy27 күн бұрын

    Okay, I have some thoughts but I would first like to clarify that I'm not Chinese or Korean, so don't take my word as facts. This is just my opinion! So I'm an Indian who is living in Australia for all my life. I would like to say I know a little about Chinese culture, as I study Chinese in school. Recently in April, I went on a school trip to China where we visited the Forbidden City, Summer Palace, Terracotta Warriors, the first draft bank in China (Pingyao), Yuyuan Gardens, and more. Throughout my trip I really learnt a lot more about Chinese culture. The Chinese knot which you showed in the video, I actually recognise it from my travels in China when I wore hanfu. And the mountain depictions you showed, those mountains I recognise from seeing them in the Summer Palace and Yuyuan Garden. I also recognise the copper coins from going to the bank in Pingyao, where we saw those coins. Those patterns were also found in the city wall, curtains and various other places as decorations. Even the fan that Rei holds in the MV, I can see how it is a Chinese fan, because in school last year we painted Chinese fans that looked like that fan shape. So I agree, most of the elements in the music video do seem more Chinese than Korean. I am aware that Korea was heavily influenced by China in its ancient history. But even so, I do agree that it is really insensitive that Starship is promoting the MV as representing 'Korean' culture. Again, I am not very well versed in Korean history at all. I only really know of the Joseon dynasty from k-dramas, and I know that during that period China influenced the Korean culture a lot and hence why there may have been this confusion. I do think there is still so much more to Korean culture which is unique from Chinese culture which they could have drawn inspiration from, and even if Starship really wanted to go with this Chinese-esque concept, they really could have just made it like they are appreciating Chinese culture, like K-pop has done with other cultures (Black, Native American, Latin American, Mexican, Indian, etc). It would have been so much better that way. I do sympathise with you Chinese people, I know what it's like to have parts of your culture stolen and re-branded as another culture. (Like spirituality from Buddhism and Hinduism, yoga, and Ayurvedic medicine all originated from India, but the West re-branded it and now it has become a new 'hippie' culture/'clean girl' aesthetic, etc). Starship really should have been clearer about their cultural inspirations. Especially in this day and age, I don't know how this oversight happened, since Chinese culture is very much well-known to Korean people (I assume). Nonetheless, the girls don't deserve hate for this though. Please focus your attention towards the company. I've already seen so many hate comments towards the members and the song when they weren't in control of the MV concept. It's very unfortunate because the members performed so well and the song sounds absolutely amazing! :') I'm a DIVE and I feel so bad that the members have to face the consequences of their company's poor choice. I hope Starship will learn from this in future. In the meantime I will continue to support everyone in getting Starship's attention to this mis-representation of culture. I do believe it's very important and needs to be clarified. 我和你们站在一起!让我们阻止这种文化盗窃。 谢谢你的阅读。💗

  • @user-yl5un1kb3d

    @user-yl5un1kb3d

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your long comment! Thank you for supporting us and welcome to China whenever you want!🥺💓💓

  • @clara-bj4gy

    @clara-bj4gy

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you my friend! I loved IVE for a long time, that is why I am being so angry with this cultural appropriation. Starship has put IVE in a very dangerous situation. The last come back did not have a nice result, Starship really should not encourage the sales in Korean market while shitting on Chinese people’s face. They are totally losing Chinese market

  • @kuhujoy

    @kuhujoy

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@user-yl5un1kb3d 不客气!I think it's a very important issue and I hope that your voices can be heard by the company so that they will release a statement. And thank you for your welcome! I had a really positive experience in China, and I made a good friend there, so ya maybe I will consider visiting again some time in the future!! 💞💞

  • @kuhujoy

    @kuhujoy

    27 күн бұрын

    @@clara-bj4gy 不客气我的朋友!Yeah I can only imagine how you feel :( I am a relatively new DIVE, and even so if they mis-represented my culture I would also feel angry. Yep, I can see what Starship was going for, and I just wish they conducted their research more thoroughly for the MV. The Korean story of 'The Tiger who Loved the Sun' is so interesting and I wish they could have included more inspiration from that instead of taking heavy inspiration from Chinese culture and branding it all as 'Korean'. I hope that from the repercussions on the Chinese market that Starship will finally learn their lesson. 🙏🙏

  • @clara-bj4gy

    @clara-bj4gy

    27 күн бұрын

    @@kuhujoy That is so true! The tiger loving the sun is a nice story in Korean culture. They really should do some research and spread their own. What they are doing now is not respecting both Chinese and Korean culture. If they keep doing so, Korean culture will soon be vanished

  • @han_gyeong
    @han_gyeongАй бұрын

    Đây thực sự là văn hóa Trung Quốc.

  • @shuwan24

    @shuwan24

    Ай бұрын

    thank you❤

  • @Lindseyyy-ge8qt

    @Lindseyyy-ge8qt

    Ай бұрын

    thank u❤❤❤

  • @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    Ай бұрын

    thank you❤❤❤❤

  • @myys_joyce1186

    @myys_joyce1186

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! This means a lot ❤

  • @Ivyilysm707

    @Ivyilysm707

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you ❤

  • @sunlyayaya0411
    @sunlyayaya0411Ай бұрын

    Well, we admit that Chinese culture is indeed liked by everyone, but this does not mean that you can plagiarize and add the title of "Korean" to it. Instead of plagiarizing the culture of a certain country every day, it is better to think about how to develop your own unique culture. 좋아요, 우리는 중국 문화가 확실히 사람들의 사랑을 받는다는 것을 인정하지만, 그렇다고 해서 당신이 마음대로 표절해서 "한국"이라는 타이틀을 붙일 수 있는 것은 아닙니다.매일 어떤 나라의 문화를 베끼려고 하기보다는 나만의 문화를 어떻게 발전시킬지 생각해야 합니다. 好吧,我们承认中国文化确实很受人们的喜爱,但这并不意味着你可以随意抄袭,并冠以"韩国"的头衔。与其每天抄袭某个国家的文化,不如思考如何发展属于自己的文化。

  • @Edithskylar
    @Edithskylar25 күн бұрын

    There is comment from another video trying to argue that Korea is so influenced by Chinese culture thus it's hard to distinguish the two countries' culture. Well, Korea has been influenced by Chinese culture so long, but the two countries still are so distinguished in culture. Anyone who live in these countries can tell the difference. In fact, the biggest problem is that these elements in the MV have NEVER appeared in Korea history, and all of a sudden it "became" Korean tradition in the company's claim. Chinese knot, palm leaf fan, guess why it is called Chinese knot。。。

  • @clara-bj4gy

    @clara-bj4gy

    25 күн бұрын

    This is the problem! Japanese dramas are becoming more and more Japanese style while Korean dramas are becoming more and more Chinese style😅

  • @crptpyr

    @crptpyr

    22 күн бұрын

    Lmao it's not the "Chinese Knot" though, it's gukhwa maedeup, maedeup go back in history to the 3 kingdoms period, Starship ent didn't just make a Chinese knot and pretend it was part of Korea's history. If you look at the knots in the MV compared to Chinese knots vs Korean gukhwa maedeup I hope you'll see which has a closer similarity.

  • @linlin-ds8ko
    @linlin-ds8ko27 күн бұрын

    Another point is that the person who made this mv studied Chinese painting, but deleted the remarks about "Chinese painting" after the mv was released, she was guilty after all, right?

  • @xnxn_5u
    @xnxn_5uАй бұрын

    China has a history of more than 5,000 years, with many dynasties and rich cultures. I do not deny that East Asian cultures have similarities, but there are still a lot of differences. When I watch HEYA's music video, I feel that many elements are clearly from Chinese culture. IVE's team and Kpop should and must stop blurring Korean culture and other East Asian cultures and acknowledge that they are stealing‼️

  • @Celia-zt8ww
    @Celia-zt8wwАй бұрын

    Cette vidéo montre très clairement! L’appropriation culturelle est vraiment honteuse😅

  • @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    Ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤thank you

  • @flos-flos

    @flos-flos

    29 күн бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤thank you

  • @cptbtptp1121

    @cptbtptp1121

    29 күн бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @user-kt9kf9od7n

    @user-kt9kf9od7n

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you❤

  • @leesimone2645

    @leesimone2645

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you ❤

  • @jinjikou
    @jinjikou25 күн бұрын

    抄的明目张胆。。。就这还有一堆人洗

  • @yyl-ix9fo
    @yyl-ix9fo29 күн бұрын

    You can borrow from it, but you can't say that the MV style is all Korean culture, it's unquestionably cultural plagiarism!!!!!

  • @tomyip8374
    @tomyip8374Ай бұрын

    중국적인 요소를 자신의 것으로 받아들이는 것이 아니라 중국 문화를 차용하고 참고하고 있다는 사실을 인정할 수 있기를 바랄 뿐입니다. 세계는 문명화된 사회이며, 한국 국민들이 문화와 역사를 긍정적인 시각으로 바라보길 바랍니다.

  • @user-kt9kf9od7n

    @user-kt9kf9od7n

    28 күн бұрын

    谢谢你❤

  • @WinnieAdams-jw6rb

    @WinnieAdams-jw6rb

    28 күн бұрын

    That’s a fair comment! It’s normal to have similar cultures of East Asian countries. Because everyone is so close and has been communicating with each other since time immemorial. But every nation has its own unique style, and it is a pity to lose something unique.

  • @YYshuua.

    @YYshuua.

    28 күн бұрын

    thank you

  • @user-yq1cl8ue7f

    @user-yq1cl8ue7f

    28 күн бұрын

    thank you

  • @sulin8626

    @sulin8626

    28 күн бұрын

    thank you for your fair comment!!! ❤

  • @1ihang_Cao
    @1ihang_CaoАй бұрын

    如果有韩国人依然认为是韩国文化,那请拿出证据!以上视频是我们的证据,我们的文化。我们只有更多的证据证明,你们呢? If there are Koreans who still think it is Korean culture, please show proof! The video above is evidence of our culture. We only have more evidence. What about you? 아직도 한국문화라고 생각하는 한국인이 있다면 증거를 대라!위 영상은 우리의 증거, 우리의 문화입니다.우리는 그것을 증명할 증거가 더 많습니다. 당신들은 어떤가요?

  • @youyouyou7

    @youyouyou7

    Ай бұрын

    连个正经出土文物都没有的贫瘠敌方

  • @Shyanne1222
    @Shyanne122228 күн бұрын

    终于有人做这种视频了谢谢up主

  • @ChengJerry-zt1uf
    @ChengJerry-zt1uf29 күн бұрын

    In the 1990s, South Koreans illegally stole murals from the ancient tombs of Goguryeo in Northeast China. Please stop appropriating Chinese culture!

  • @Kuma0.0
    @Kuma0.0Ай бұрын

    East Asian culture is very charming. Although Japan and Korea were influenced by China in ancient times, the Japanese are very creative. They innovate and have developed their own distinctive characteristics. However, Korea is increasingly appropriating Chinese culture and claiming it as their own, causing Korea to lose its original uniqueness. This is truly a pity.

  • @Yingyingzhou-oh1ef
    @Yingyingzhou-oh1efАй бұрын

    Those who take possession of things that are not in their own country and speak harshly are called thieves.

  • @myraLi-zh5wq
    @myraLi-zh5wq29 күн бұрын

    When I saw the mv at the first time I thought it is the Chinese style🧐

  • @Winteralarioko
    @Winteralarioko26 күн бұрын

    이것이 중국 문화입니다 这就是中国文化 This is Chinese Culture

  • @FuRong-5
    @FuRong-5Ай бұрын

    You did quite well. This is the truth. Thank you for letting people know about this!👏👏👏

  • @kkGarcia-zf7ob
    @kkGarcia-zf7obАй бұрын

    中国文化が本当にすごいです。

  • @shuwan24

    @shuwan24

    Ай бұрын

    ありがとうございます日本も元気です

  • @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    @YifeiYang-kh4ir

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you ❤

  • @Yuxin-jz3uz
    @Yuxin-jz3uz28 күн бұрын

    When I was traveling to South Korea, the tour guide said that back to ancient times, only Korean nobles could use Chinese, while average people did not know how to use words!

  • @Xiaohanchenx

    @Xiaohanchenx

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes because back at old days paper and ink are expensive so only rich people can use words and had the change to learn words.

  • @Xiaohanchenx

    @Xiaohanchenx

    28 күн бұрын

    *chance

  • @user-hi8ly4wi1s

    @user-hi8ly4wi1s

    28 күн бұрын

    true

  • @Sumit_Linger

    @Sumit_Linger

    24 күн бұрын

    Exactly!I have studied Korean, so my Korean teacher told me the thing on the relationship between Korean and Chinese.In ancient Korea, only nobles could use Chinese characters, so that the illiteracy rate of civilians was very high, so King Sejong invented Korean.

  • @ueda-loki
    @ueda-loki28 күн бұрын

    間違いなく文化盗作だろう😮

  • @sophia_zxc6722
    @sophia_zxc6722Ай бұрын

    This world needs the right history and the right culture. If you have any claims, please provide convincing evidence like this video❤

  • @user-tw5rh8bf9v
    @user-tw5rh8bf9vАй бұрын

    China's 5,000-year-old culture has a long and profound history. We respect and appreciate all cultures in the world, and hope that the traditional cultures of various countries can exchange with each other, which is a symbol of peace and harmony. We accept borrowing from traditional culture, but we never allow stealing and misappropriation. We admit that Kpop has a lot of influence in the world, and we also think that Kpop is a very successful culture, and we don't have any jealous or vexatious ideas. The Chinese are just protecting our own culture. Just like Korea is proud of Kpop, can you allow Kpop to be promoted by other countries as their traditional culture? China has always believed that harmony is precious, and if the music video is marked to borrow from Chinese culture, instead of claiming that it is the beauty of traditional Korea, we will never come here to theorize. Thank you for your understanding.❤

  • @smoothafbi8840
    @smoothafbi884029 күн бұрын

    I’m so glad the Chinese are verbal about these things cos im not even chinese but I’ve seen so many times people berating Chinese people yet they steal or use Chinese culture shamelessly

  • @user-vy5oc7nz7p
    @user-vy5oc7nz7p17 күн бұрын

    ive新歌《Heya》MV中的祥云、绣花鞋、中国结、芭蕉扇、烟斗、山水画、国风服饰、中国窗棂、灯笼、皮影戏、八卦、葫芦娃布景、太阳神鸟金饰、东方神娃、喀斯特地貌(不是中国特有,但是韩国哪来的这个地貌)甚至找不出一点和韩国美有关的东西……这种赤裸裸的偷中国文化的行为,还明目张胆的宣称是自己国家的文化,堪称“21世纪音乐史上的大英博物馆”!希望大部分ive的中国粉丝能够秉持国家面前无偶像的原则,并能够坚持坚定的维护中国传统文化🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳 望我们同胞能牢记鲁迅先生的话: 愿中国青年都摆脱冷气,只是向上走。不必听自暴自弃者流的话。能做事的做事,能发声的发声。有一分光,发一分热。就令萤火一般,也可以在黑暗里发一点光。不必等候炬火。--鲁迅《热风》 In the music video of the new song "Heya", there are auspicious clouds, embroidered shoes, Chinese knots, banana fans, pipes, landscape paintings, traditional Chinese costumes, Chinese window frames, lanterns, shadow puppetry, gossip, gourd doll scenery, sun god bird gold ornaments, Eastern god dolls, and karst landforms (not unique to China, but where did Korea come from) that cannot even find anything related to Korean beauty... This blatant act of stealing Chinese culture and openly claiming to be the culture of one's own country can be called the "British Museum" in the history of 21st century music! I hope that most of my Chinese fans can uphold the principle of no idols in front of the country and firmly uphold traditional Chinese culture! ive 신곡'Heya'뮤직비디오의 상운, 꽃신, 중국매듭, 파초부채, 담뱃대, 산수화, 국풍복식, 중국창살, 초롱, 그림자극, 가십, 후루와 세트, 태양신조금장식, 동방신바, 카스트지형 (중국특유가 아니지만 한국에서 온 이 지형) 은 심지어 한국미문화와 관련된 장담의 국가음악박물관이라고 할 수 있는 이런 적나라한 행위를 찾을 수 없다.21세기 중국음악박물관은 이런 적나라하다고 할 수 있다....대부분의 ive의 중국 팬들이 국가 앞에 아이돌이 없다는 원칙을 견지하고 중국 전통문화를 확고히 수호할 수 있기를 바랍니다!

  • @lalinam2144
    @lalinam2144Ай бұрын

    まったく同じだ😮

  • @yanxi-de9vi
    @yanxi-de9viАй бұрын

    Yes that’s exactly what I want to say

  • @ElizaCOCO-re5jx
    @ElizaCOCO-re5jx28 күн бұрын

    “‘You used’ does not mean ‘that is yours’.” Here’s a simple example. An author wrote a book. Another one copied or used some comments of the book and said “this is mine!” Is that right? Of course not! It is just as same as China and Korea. China is the creator. How can Korea say this culture is theirs?

  • @Lily-jc4mv
    @Lily-jc4mv29 күн бұрын

    OMG!!! So disappointed with IVE this time. Can’t believe they copy so many things without apologies!

  • @lichengstudent2775
    @lichengstudent2775Ай бұрын

    Thanks IVE sharing our culture😂😂😂

  • @Jane-se2hd

    @Jane-se2hd

    22 күн бұрын

    high EQ answer

  • @LucyChan-bx9jo
    @LucyChan-bx9joАй бұрын

    Hoping Korea stops stealing

  • @jiayinyuan1799
    @jiayinyuan179920 күн бұрын

    There is a big difference between sharing culture and cultural appropriation. Sharing culture is when you use the elements or style and clearly state where it originated from. What Korean did was cultural appropriation, calling others culture “theirs”. When Korean can’t even call out the name of the elements they are using and show clear evidence of that element. We are happy to see ppl enjoying Chinese culture, but cultural appropriation is definitely unacceptable. This did not only happen on Chinese culture even India cultures. There’s maybe more cultural that’s being appropriated by Korea. If anyone knows more, you guys can tell me.

  • @angeliquewu8318
    @angeliquewu831826 күн бұрын

    Definitely one of the most comprehensive videos out there, good job! If Koreans can actually find historical relics that have any of these, I’d at least respect them a bit more 🙄

  • @user-hq3me5kl3x
    @user-hq3me5kl3xАй бұрын

    这是属于中华民族的瑰宝!!!请停止文化挪用!!!

  • @Lindseyyy-ge8qt
    @Lindseyyy-ge8qtАй бұрын

    Can't Korea show its own national culture, but it likes cultural appropriation everywhere?😢😢😢

  • @chwe_not_chew6369

    @chwe_not_chew6369

    Ай бұрын

    😂cuz they don’t have their own culture lmaooo, most of them are originated from China they just don’t want to admit it😂

  • @ougcenLee

    @ougcenLee

    28 күн бұрын

    Obviously they are not satisfied with their real culture 🙄

  • @sherryhuang4506
    @sherryhuang45069 күн бұрын

    Please note, that is plagiarism and culture appropriation. Don’t say something like 'we have similar culture.' I am Chinese, and I eat kimchi, so is kimchi from China? I am Chinese, I also speak English, does that mean English is from China? Just because you use something, it doesn’t mean it's yours. You can change the color, but that doesn’t mean it's yours. How long is your Korean history, and how long is Chinese history? South Korea even used Chinese for a period of time, and now you're saying Chinese culture is yours? What about the Korean museum, Korean old buildings; they literally have Chinese characters, not Korean. You guys have used Chinese culture for a long time, even your Korean identification card has a Chinese name. South Korea keeps using Chinese culture but never acknowledges it's from China because they know many people don’t like the Chinese government, and they know Chinese people cannot access Western apps, so they just post it and people see it and think it's Korean culture. This is bullying, plagiarism, and unacceptable

  • @lujixcjml
    @lujixcjml11 күн бұрын

    As a British person even i know that some of the oldest Korean history is literally written in chinese lol