Keeping family gatherings weird since the 1500's

@THECHEESELORD69

6 ай бұрын

Idk what your talking about this is actually one of the best case scenarios for something like this, yeah his son is dead but no civil war am I right?

@guylikesbananas3986

6 ай бұрын

😮❤😮😂😮😂😮❤😢😂😢😂😮❤😮🎉😮❤ hoookigreeee

@jasanlegaspi9843

6 ай бұрын

Is that the bite of 87

@theoutlook55

6 ай бұрын

😂

@angelhare8374

6 ай бұрын

Make familys wierd again

He not only killed his son, he killed his own legacy, the grandchild in his daughter in law

@elduquecaradura1468

3 ай бұрын

his lineage ended there?

@annaguryanova3514

2 ай бұрын

@@elduquecaradura1468 Yes, All the children of Ivan the Terrible eventually died before him and the Rurik dynasty ended.

@user-wz2xy2no4l

22 күн бұрын

​@@annaguryanova3514Khm, no. There was tsar Feodor after him. He himself eventually left no children but had stepbrother Dmitriy. So no, Ivan wasn't the last Ruricovich and he left a heir.

@wildfire9280

22 күн бұрын

@@annaguryanova3514 So ultimately I guess the aristocracy succeeded.

@iwantddie

19 күн бұрын

Hi didn't even killed his son.

That painting has forever engraved itself into my deepest self, and I appreciate just how horrifying it is

@SerialDesignationLROffical

5 ай бұрын

696 with no reply cool

@wolfbad512

5 ай бұрын

If u want a painting that gives similar feeling look up the painting of the dutch prime minister being eaten I found that to be much more haunting and it makes it worse when you realize he wasn't too bad

@bigbuba5212

5 ай бұрын

@@wolfbad512 The Netherlands these days is so peaceful that I keep forgetting that happened, which explains why the current prime minister acts so nice and kind

@wolfbad512

5 ай бұрын

@@bigbuba5212 they don't have a prime minister atm and the new one that's going into power is racist lol

@iwanvandenberge5994

5 ай бұрын

​@@wolfbad512im Dutch and he is fucking amazing geertje voor de win😂

"shook her until she miscarried" If a chanel like THIS has to phrase it like THAT, you know it was real bad

@pieflower6419

5 ай бұрын

I know you can severely harm babies by shaking them- so I assumed that's what they meant. Are you suggesting something else- like strangling her?

@kacperaskawski3461

5 ай бұрын

​@@pieflower6419 well in version that I read he simply punched her extremly hard in stomach.

@dmolegend1699

2 ай бұрын

​@@kacperaskawski3461full power no holding back?

@kacperaskawski3461

2 ай бұрын

@@dmolegend1699 I don't know, I know only that he was extremly pissed even before he saw her, so most likely yes.

When I first saw that painting, my heart dropped as I saw Ivan’s eyes. I’ve never seen something that so perfectly incapsulated the horror he must’ve felt.

@Squiddy_land

4 ай бұрын

What is the painting

@Squiddy_land

4 ай бұрын

The name of it

@mylittlecubecornershmit1252

4 ай бұрын

@@Squiddy_land “Ivan the terrible and his son Ivan” sorry for not replying sooner!

@Squiddy_land

4 ай бұрын

@@mylittlecubecornershmit1252 it's ok and thank you👍

"But this is Russia, where there are no happy endings." -Perun

@heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709

6 ай бұрын

If depression was a coutry, it would be Russia

@florians9949

6 ай бұрын

Russian history in à nutshell “then things got worst”.

@RandomYT05_01

6 ай бұрын

How Russia has even survived as a Nation I have no idea.

@intergrafwielki2949

6 ай бұрын

@@RandomYT05_01 easy-evil and terror, lots of it

@ruinhem

6 ай бұрын

@@RandomYT05_01 We tend to have no idea about things we don’t study, I don’t know what else to say. Just study history then you will.

Just looked up the painting. "Dear god what have I done...?!" comes to mind when viewing it

@michaellagrange6634

6 ай бұрын

I've often described the painting as Haunting, its amazing how much raw emotion the artist was able to display.

@andrewklang809

6 ай бұрын

Just another Tuesday for Ivan.

@themilkman6969

6 ай бұрын

whoopsie doodles

@ZhovtoBlakytniy

6 ай бұрын

That face when you have killed off one of your possible heirs, and your favorite one at that and the child of your first and favorite dead wife.

@Z3r0Sk83r

6 ай бұрын

It's crazy to think it was and still is considered controversial. Apparently there's a movement in the Eastern Orthodox church to canonize Tsar Ivan as a Saint.

To make this more clear. He got mad at her being in her underwear in her private quarters he just barged into.

@YOURPAL_MAN

5 ай бұрын

That's very respectful of Ivan to do!

@varan7099

4 ай бұрын

Нет, это не правда, в историческом сообществе в целом до сих пор ведутся споры о том убивал ли Иван своего сына, ну а про нижнее белье вообще бред

@roringusanda2837

2 ай бұрын

😮 technically not even her underwear, just that she wasn't wearing the customary belt tied over her underdress, which superstition says is bad luck...but is probably uncomfortable to wear while pregnant. So she wasn't even in her underwear.

@vi0let831

12 күн бұрын

Right?? Like she was just chilling in her own room bruh what's wrong with that 😭 (I mean obviously things were WAY different then but still, HE barged in on her)

Ivan’s face in the painting is haunting. Definitely captures the realization of what he’d done.

That painting is so moving. Nothing else I've ever seen so succinctly captures the horror of an action you can NEVER take back. For all Ivan's cruelty, it actually makes me pity him.

@Itcouldbebunnies

6 ай бұрын

Have you ever seen Francisco Goya's painting of Saturn? It's right up there in the horror-category.😳

@Tiger-131-

6 ай бұрын

@@ItcouldbebunniesEating your own son out of fear that they will overthrow you is just horrible

@sidneyswope3000

6 ай бұрын

What is the painting called?

@Itcouldbebunnies

6 ай бұрын

@@sidneyswope3000 I'm baffled by your question. Typing 'Francisco Goya Saturn' into your search engine is more than enough to lead you straight to the painting in question. Don't look it up if you're a child though, because you can never unsee it.

@maddie9602

6 ай бұрын

I looked it up, and damn, that's a powerful painting

He is maybe a worst dad But that painting is sick ngl

@vojtechjanos2102

6 ай бұрын

that painting is scary

@GelloWello

6 ай бұрын

@@vojtechjanos2102yeah, it captures the true insanity of him. He ended his own dynasty multiple times, and made enemies of everyone around him

@novo121

6 ай бұрын

​@@GelloWello yeah true

@thefirstofthelast1181

6 ай бұрын

It details the humanity in the least human of us. Even this monstrosity of flesh grieves.

@ArkadiBolschek

6 ай бұрын

Well, it's not like he painted it himself.

His son didnt even die right away He regained consciousness and said That he would die a devoted son or something along those lines before dying a few days later

Im so glad you recreated the painting.

@extrahistory

5 ай бұрын

It looks so good! The artist did an amazing job!

@ilfoxyy

5 ай бұрын

artist is Scott DeWitt

@MrMurdoom

5 ай бұрын

@@ilfoxyy thanks dude!

An important note about this is that he was slowly poisoned by arsenic. By doing it slowly, you cause madness. Historically he was a brat as a child, but with the help of a monk he changed, but this is not something that people controlling him as a child wanted, so they poisoned him.

@angelparrilla2068

5 ай бұрын

Thought it was treatment with mercury.

@webkeeper

5 ай бұрын

@@angelparrilla2068 never heard of this.

@angelparrilla2068

5 ай бұрын

@@webkeeper thats what i read on like some book... like 12 years ago, maybe i was wrong or misremebering the actual person. Lemme google. Thats... huh. He got syphillis and was treated with mercury for it, the odd thing was him getting syphillis. He usually reads like an overbearing zealot, so... wondering how he caught it.

@retii5047

5 ай бұрын

He was heavily abused in his childhood by people who thought to control country through him so he also pretty sure had some trauma that made his character even worse.

@Ch50304

5 ай бұрын

@@retii5047 oh no, yes that wil do it. Untreated trauma can make some people mad.

You already know Ivan IV was a bad dad when he murdered his own son.

@GelloWello

6 ай бұрын

For the crime of defending his pregnant wife which he also beat til she miscarried. Honestly talk about a failed monarch

@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069

6 ай бұрын

That portrait is haunting.

@herobrinesblog

6 ай бұрын

I dont see the connection

@ZhovtoBlakytniy

6 ай бұрын

​@@herobrinesbloggood dads usually don't go murdering their children

@somethingelseidk1035

6 ай бұрын

​@@ZhovtoBlakytniyYour dad doesn't kill your siblings? Wow talk about being pampered.

That tragic irony. Save Dad's life only to have him kill you later.

That painting still haunts me. The sorrow and madness in those eyes are something I won't soon forget.

Ivan the Terrible: DEAR GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE!?- The painter nearby: noooow hold that pose please... give me real puppy eyes, your Imperial majesty.

@redclayscholar620

5 ай бұрын

Makes me think of Mel Brooks History of the World. "This is no good. All I got are tha backs. If ya wanna be in the picture everybody gotta get up and go to the otha side of that table."😂

@stephenlawrence554

4 ай бұрын

seeing that the painting was created nearly 300 years after the event actually happened, he would've been holding that pose for a looooong time

@chibiboi2847

4 ай бұрын

@@stephenlawrence554 Paint takes a while to dry

@Dumbsourplum

3 ай бұрын

unironically though, imagine how much the real sight must have been ingrained into the painters head to be able to paint like that

@chuckmcluckin6082

3 ай бұрын

​@@chibiboi2847 Yeah, that's probably it

If you ever plan on doing the worst moms too, I'd definitely suggest Catherine the Great's mom to start off on. 😅

@extrahistory

6 ай бұрын

100%

@charliefarmer4365

6 ай бұрын

Queen Victoria’s mum would be pretty high on the list too. For context, she and some other rich dude tried to make Victoria feel dependent on them so they could use her as a puppet. Victoria’s Uncle William IV (the one who took out some of the navy for a bit without telling anyone) hated them for this, and swore to live long enough for Victoria to take the throne at eighteen. Edit: Kinda explains her own parenting of her own son Albert, really.

@akostorma3930

6 ай бұрын

What about Wu Zetian?

@thenablade858

5 ай бұрын

Ivan and Wu Zetian (If the story about her killing her baby is true) take the cake.

@AxolinaAxolotl

5 ай бұрын

ROXY AGAIN

Ah yes the "I didn't hit you that hard, pls don't tell mom" painting

Ivanovich's death always reminds me of History Matter's KZread video of Ivan the Terrible with the quote "What are you gonna do? Beat me to death with a scepter? Turns out yes."

Would love a best dads in history one too, we need positive role models too!

@Pedrosa2541

6 ай бұрын

Maybe Aibak, founder of Delli Sultanate, adopted father, Qazi Fakhruddin? He literally bought Aiback as a slave in Northwest Iran, and instead of treating him like a burden beast, as was the custom, he treated him like his own child and taught him to read, do math, horseback archery, religion, administration, and most importantly, kindness and humility, something that Aibak was really famous to be as a person, even as he conquered most of northen India. Can't imagine a better example.

@CollinMcLean

6 ай бұрын

@@Pedrosa2541 Alexios Komnenos? Gave his daughter an entire hospital to administrate and she was supposedly his primary caregiver towards the end of his life.

@thenablade858

5 ай бұрын

@@CollinMcLeanA hospital and an orphanage that could potentially house around 10,000 people. They definitely cared for eachother since she wrote a very flattering biography of his reign with The Alexiad.

@scipioafricanus2212

5 ай бұрын

Wait a minute, Ivan *isn't* a positive role model?

@anxiety.infected.almond_music

5 ай бұрын

this is true, yin and yang is key to life, balance of the good and the bad, and all the grey in between

Imagine being so terrible you ruined your lineage by killing your grandkids and son

Proof dads have never known how to fucking knock

Ivan sounds like he should be the poster child for anger management ad campaign😂😂😂

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

No actually he had schizophrenia

@RockSpiders

5 ай бұрын

@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg This very much checks out

@justice8718

5 ай бұрын

@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg It explains why he was so mentally broken.

@Bisexualdragon4042

5 ай бұрын

​@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg Trama and Manipulation didn't help either

@sirshotty7689

3 ай бұрын

@@Bisexualdragon4042neither did the heavy metal poisoning.

It sucks how Ivan realized he killed his own son and just holds his body regretting what he did

Fun fact: the painting was on display at the museum for only a week People considered it cursed and tried to destroy it several times

@Z3r0Sk83r

15 күн бұрын

Ah, but it goes deeper than that! Despite what people are echoing here, Ivan the Terrible is actually *incredibly* important to both Russian Nationalists and the Russian sect of the Eastern Orthodox Church. I can't remember the details verbatim but it's something to the effect of Ivan being a proxy to Jesus Christ.

Ivan clearly loved his son, but being so mentally ill, his own mind was his biggest enemy, he was a danger to his loved ones, and the painting captures the pain and regret he must have felt when he realized what he had done

I want to point out that it wasn't her underwear that offended Ivan Grozny, but the fact that his son's wife wasn't wearing a tied belt over her "rubakha" or underdress/ long shirt, which was a sign of bad luck in slavic superstition dating back to the pagan times. It probably was uncomfortable for her to wear during pregnancy.

@CollinMcLean

6 ай бұрын

Either way... still feels a skosh disproportionate...

@thejohnreview9650

5 ай бұрын

The joke is that this situation has never happened. According to the Russian etiquette of the time, men and women lived in opposite parts of the palace and had to arrange their meetings in advance. Under no circumstances could Ivan just meet the princess in her underwear. Not to mention that the Terrible actualy never killed his son.

@user-eh1tv9pj2d

5 ай бұрын

@@thejohnreview9650 we dont know the latter. There are many contemprary sources that claim both murder and sickness. And his skull was in too bad of a condition once discovered to confirm or dismiss the story.

@joythought

5 ай бұрын

​@@thejohnreview9650revisionism much?

@ajb3744

3 ай бұрын

I mean. Technically it did result in bad luck

The worst thing that happened to Russia during Ivan reign was the death of his first wife, Anastasia Romanova (not that one from the Don Bluth movie, obviously). After her death, Ivan just released all his insanity over anyone and anything he considered an enemy.

@webkeeper

6 ай бұрын

His bones were examined recently. They still had traces of arsenic. Someone did everything to make him go mad by slowly poisoning him.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

​@@webkeeperyes but he was also someone who suffered from schizophrenia if I'm not mistaken, didn't he have visions as a young child that continued throughout his life?

@webkeeper

5 ай бұрын

@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg As far as I know, no. As a child he was controlled by the Boyars and they made him into a spoiled brat. Only after a monk became his teacher he turned his life around.

@wide_s

5 ай бұрын

The wife was the only person who could calm him down ( saying this as I am Russian myself) so after her death he basically became more unhinged (?) in his actions towards other people who he did not like. Even though he was called 'Terrible' (IMO I wouldn't call him that word because its not close to the original word 'Грозный') you can't deny the fact that he was an excellent ruler to the Russian Empire. (But a bad father , sadly.) Sorry for bad grammar, my level is B2 so I may write some mistakes lol

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

@@wide_s I thought he was called the terrible bc he destroyed the oligarch?

ivan: *WHAT HAVE I DONE?!* artist: 👁️_👁️✍️

Blyat, as a Russian I wanna break such a myth. Historians made an expertise and discovered, that his son dyed not because of injuries his father did and not even in Moscow, he died during his piligramage in sergiev posad

@BoundlessEternity_

Ай бұрын

What is piligramage ? and is sergiev posad a place?

@Billious

7 күн бұрын

Heh heh heh I like how you started the sentence with “Blyat”

Imagine your dad takes you on a field trip and you just see so many people getting massacared💀

@abcdef27669

6 ай бұрын

"See now, son? It should be a fast strike over the neck, before they got too agitated, and we don't want that, right?"

@Pedrosa2541

6 ай бұрын

"Dad, don't you fear ending up like them someday?"

@ArkadiBolschek

6 ай бұрын

"I didn't say what kind of field it was" :D

Fun fact Nobody will care about: Ivan the Terrible and his son is one of my Favorite paintings

@Mesruksi

5 ай бұрын

same

@MrG_-pn9fv

5 ай бұрын

@@Mesruksi 🫂

@troybaxter

5 ай бұрын

It's the most chilling painting I have ever seen. Just the look on Ivan's face as he holds his dead son.

The first time I saw the painting I found it absolutely haunting. The artists did such a good job reflecting the regret and anguish

Guys, I think a series on Ivan the terrible would be brilliant, he was so volatile and terrible for a reason, he was made a monster by the boyars around him who poisoned his mother and his wife, pretty much they made him paranoid, unstable and cruel by their game of thrones style intrigues. I’m oversimplifying rn, but it is a very interesting topic.

Bring out Fredrick the Great’s dad next.

@extrahistory

6 ай бұрын

How'd you know! 😉

@nelsonchereta816

6 ай бұрын

Well in all fairness Frederick William only beat and humiliated his son, he didn't murder him. That was for his confidant and closest friend.

@parrase

6 ай бұрын

try to serve Ivan no survivin

@OrbitalAstronaut

6 ай бұрын

@@extrahistory I just had a funny feeling. 😅

@ebinshumate3132

6 ай бұрын

@nelsonchereta816 That is the ONLY credit he gets in being a father

Ilya Repin's painting is amazing and i loved it since i first saw it

@genas2

6 ай бұрын

No wonder - ukrainian artists are lovely 😊

That painting actually captivates the Horror he probably felt in that moment really well

I didn’t know this was the background to the beautiful but haunting painting of Ivan and his son. What a masterpiece it is

Horrid parenting aside, I relate to the many other commenters in now absolutely adoring this painting. It’s style immaculate (realism is king), the contrast between the mid and background compared to the subject although beautiful in their own right doesn’t take away from the main subject, and the heart wrenching look of regret and grief on Ivan the Terrible’s face along with the single tear from his son truly is a depressing scene.

Here's a fun fact did you know Ivan the Terrible of Russia once offered Queen Elizabeth the First of England a marriage proposal I've always found that very interesting

@user-ob4sq6fi3s

6 ай бұрын

That was indeed interesting. I too was quite surprised when I read of it. And what's making it even more fascinating is that this wasn't the last time something of the sort occurred: when he was still heir to the russian throne, the man who later became tsar Alexander II the liberator (1855-1881) visited England and met Victoria. The two got on so well that Alexander was willing to give up his claim to the throne to marry her. The people he had with him though convinced him otherwise

@monkofdarktimes

6 ай бұрын

They fit each other well

@thenablade858

5 ай бұрын

She actually offered him sanctuary in England if the situation with the Boyars got out of hand BUT he had to pay for his own expenses. Elizabeth, like her grandfather, hated spending money.

The painter did a perfect job depicting the event. The shock on Ivan the elder, desperately grasping his son's wound and holding him as the life slips out.

And most of it is either an exaggeration or straight up myth. This fella was quite normal for his time.

@justice8718

5 ай бұрын

Ivan also was severely poisoned and hated by the elites.

@iananderson4754

5 ай бұрын

His bones has traces of arsenic

@bibabobovich3122

4 ай бұрын

@@iananderson4754 fact

God, that painting is powerful

Ah yes because a woman lounging in her underwear while heavily pregnant is a sin and an absolute no no. With family like this who needs enemies?

@thejohnreview9650

5 ай бұрын

The joke is that this situation has never happened. According to the Russian etiquette of the time, men and women lived in opposite parts of the palace and had to arrange their meetings in advance. Under no circumstances could Ivan just meet the princess in her underwear. Not to mention that the Terrible never killed his son.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

​@@thejohnreview9650 no no, he was mentally unwell, both from his slow arsenic poisoning but also due to his mental illness

@hail_karMa

5 ай бұрын

​@@thejohnreview9650 Could you please say where you got this information from? I would like to do more research on it myself

@thejohnreview9650

5 ай бұрын

@@hail_karMa You need to read the Russian chronicles of that period and see what is actually written in them. You also need to read who told all these amazing stories about beaten pregnant wives and the tsarevich, whom Ivan either stabbed with a dagger, or stabbed with a staff, or hit with a staff, or slapped him too hard. Also read about the autopsy of the tomb of Ivan the Terrible, which was carried out in the Soviet Union in 1963, read about the results obtained after examining the bones of him and his son.

@cmen6895

5 ай бұрын

@@hail_karMaHe has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about, so dont worry too much.

The thing is, in the painting he wasn't crying because he realized he killed his son, it's because he realized that he had destroyed his dinasty, he was just that of an overall horrible person, not just a horrible dad.

Searched the painting The look of pure horror and regret that screams from his eyes as he holds his dead son to his chest..... A shiver ran down my spine.

At least he (kinda) cares about his child. Stalin would rather keep an enemy officer than his own son.

@user-sh7md4nx3j

5 ай бұрын

officer? maybe you mean a goddamned field marshal? he made a decision that was better for his country

@47ex1

3 ай бұрын

You're not very smart

Yet, it later gave birth to one of the most emotional paintings of the Russian Realest Movement. Ilya Repin disclosed the horror in his eyes beautifully.

To be fair he was incredibly insane and mentally unwell, it only makes sense he'd be a horrible father considering his level of mental instability

Oh, so that’s why his nickname was Ivan the Terrible

@Furrina89

3 ай бұрын

Not really. He was terrible in general

@antikovt

3 ай бұрын

Not really, that nickname is an English mistranslation and was never used

"five weeks of executions" that sounds suspiciously like something

@The_random_Georgian

6 ай бұрын

Hmmm what could it be………wait

@andrew-know

3 ай бұрын

"five nights at Freddy's~"

R.I.P. the dead child man. Tough times. Tough times.

I had no clue that’s where that painting came from, makes it a whole lot more tragic

Being possessed by anger is the biggest fear a man can have...

Murdering their own son would definitely make you the worst dad.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

It's involuntary manslaughter not murder

@joythought

5 ай бұрын

2nd degree murder

Smooth transition

@extrahistory

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@MrFelblood

5 ай бұрын

I normally scoff at those looping transitions, but this one was sick.

that painting kept me up when i first saw it. beautiful in the most creepy way possible. you can FEEL the Guilt in Ivan's face, its So haunting.

its so sad he didnt want to hurt his son that bad

Can this be a series?

@extrahistory

6 ай бұрын

We will have another one next week!

@user-yr7vr2sf2v

5 ай бұрын

The worst dad of history throwing like William, Conqueror and his kids@@extrahistory

Bro destroyed his whole blood line in a moment

I think that the most interesting thing about Ivan's son's death is that we don't really know how he died. If I remember it correctly, the description of his death firstly accure in "History of Russia", wrote by Karamzin in the beginning of XIX century. And when historians in XX century opened Ivan's coffin to find out if he really was striked in the head, it appears that the coffin wasn't properly sealed off witch let to the scattering of the Ivan's skull. So today we don't really know if Ivan died like he died

The dudes eyes in the painting is killing me 💀

Ivan “The Terrible” is a bad translation of the proper term GROZNY, which means fearless or menacing, seeing as he expanded the Tsardom to new heights and officially shattered the “Tartar Yolk”

@ArkadiBolschek

6 ай бұрын

It's not a bad translation: "terrible" also means "terrifying". English-speakers nowadays use it almost exclusively to mean "awfully bad", but that's a relatively recent shift.

@thejohnreview9650

5 ай бұрын

"Ivan the Brutal" would be more correct

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

No no, it's the correct translation. He was called that because of his destruction of the oligarchy

Ah yes the best bonding experience.

In the painting he is sad because he was left without heirs, not because of the death of his son

Ivan died of a stroke while playing chess, we learn something every day.

Pretty sure the painting of Saturn eating his children actually imortalises him as the worst dad in history.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

No it's two different paintings

Okay, I think you nailed it with Ivan the Terrible (Dad).

i love the use of small circles inside of big circles for the eyes to show you how mad he was

"said Ivan, trying not to be terrible." - Bill Wurtz, "history of the entire world, i guess"

"What are you going to do beat me to death with a scepter?" Ivan: no problem

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

Well it wasn't so much as being beaten to death, it was more like he got hit in the head at the right angle to instantly kill him. Same way David killed Goliath with one stone

Yo that painting looks like me with my brother when I keep telling him I didn’t hit that hard I didn’t hit the hard

He didn't shake her, he BEAT her

@giorgospapoutsakis5271

4 ай бұрын

But KZread being KZread he had to put it that way

Bro took "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out" to a whole new level 💀

@User-eb7my

4 ай бұрын

He took it too literally

Bro ended his entire bloodline in 2 moves. First causing his daughter in law to miscarry, and then killing his own son

@emilybarclay8831

2 ай бұрын

He did have another son who lived to adulthood, succeeded him as Tsar and had a daughter, but that daughter died as a baby

@CharlestonChica

Ай бұрын

​@@emilybarclay8831So dude still pruned his own branches on his family tree.

At least Ivan regretted killing his son. Peter the Great sentenced his own son to death without a second thought because he was paranoid his son would betray him.

@user-fg3ep6oj9u

6 ай бұрын

In general, he was right, Alexei, judging by the letters, was a slob, and also he secretly fled to Vienna, that would negotiate with Austria, to support him in ascending the throne, after the death of his father.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

You guys seem to think that people with mental illnesses are rationally sound

"Worst dads in history" My dumbass really said Khan Doorman 💀

The more I learn about Ivan the Terrible the more terrible he gets

Ivan: "i hate you" Seconds later: "OH SHOOT THATS MY SON"

YO! Thats where that painting is from? Thats up there with saturn eating his son, and the garden of earthly delights for me.

@bradbradthebrad

2 ай бұрын

I’ve heard of the first two, but what is the garden one? I don’t want to look it up cause I’m chicken

@somerandookay6999

2 ай бұрын

@@bradbradthebrad The Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosc. Its a three part oil painting depicting Eden, Earth, then finally Hell. It kinda looks like a where's Waldo on acid.

I love how this channel is following what we are learning in school

The painting is wild, the look in his dads eyes

I don't know if it is fact or theory, but I heard that the worried expression on Ivan's face is actually not because of the action of killing his own son, but because he worried what the people would think, he knew he would lose the crown, and that worried him, not losing his son

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

He was mentally unwell, don't be a bigot

@moereece855

5 ай бұрын

@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg What?

@JcoleMc

4 ай бұрын

@@moereece855 He was slowly being poisoned which caused him to go mad

@moereece855

4 ай бұрын

@@JcoleMc Oh alr

Stalin: you think HE was a terrible dad?

@Mr.Black61.

6 ай бұрын

What did he do?

@warcrimeconnoisseur5238

5 ай бұрын

@@Mr.Black61. His son got captured by the Germans and they wanted to exchange a Field Marshal for Stalins son but Stalin refused

The horrifying look on his eyes....Gosh

"Worst dads in History!!" *Starts having flashbacks of Springtrap*

I ❤ extra history

@extrahistory

6 ай бұрын

We love you! Thanks for watching!

And arguably, he isn’t the worst Russian* leader/father, Stalin was terrible to his son.

@M.E.ANDHistory

6 ай бұрын

And, crazy enough, Stalin ordered a film to be made about Ivan the Terrible.

@ArkadiBolschek

6 ай бұрын

@@M.E.ANDHistory Ivan was one of Stalin's role models. Go figure.

@thejohnreview9650

5 ай бұрын

Stalin was Georgian

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

​@@thejohnreview9650 that's like saying Mexicans aren't Americans despite being in North AMERICA

@thejohnreview9650

5 ай бұрын

@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg Well, then Stalin isn't Russian either. He's EURASIAN.

art cute as hell i love these little videos

The "most evil" are always portrayed cartoonishly evil, my skeptisism of history only grows.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ivan had some undiagnosed mental illness

@CollinMcLean

6 ай бұрын

Almost certainly. Exacerbated by extreme psychological trauma.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

He did, this is very widely accepted. Even if he wasn't ill from the arsenic poisoning

@noahdaanimalguy7673

2 ай бұрын

He did, he had syphylis at one point that we know about, had arsenic poisoning, and had mercury treatment for that syphylis

Actually he wasn't terrible like most people think. The word Grozny actually means other than terrible. Menacing, Fearsome, Fearful. He actually have mental breakdown because his pasts. Boyars often mistreated him.

@joshuahunt3032

6 ай бұрын

“Terrible” in its current meaning might be a relatively recent thing. Back in the day, it might’ve been more of a synonym to “menacing” or “horrifying”.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

He was called terrible because the oligarchy was destroyed and they were the ones to call him such

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

​@@joshuahunt3032he was called the terrible by the oligarchs in Russia because he either had them destroyed or killed

@troybaxter

5 ай бұрын

That may be true, but they both convey similar meanings.

@justice8718

5 ай бұрын

@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg Being a Russian elite in Ivan’s time is like having God at your throat.

that painting is pretty sick ngl

In the painting I feel like you can actually see the remorse and regret in Ivan’s eyes after killing his son.

Saving his dad from assassination was his mistake

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

Ivan was mentally ill and his son just so happened to be struck just so in a way to kill him. The blow to the temple most often results in nothing but if you're unlucky it instantly kills you

Didn't Peter "the Great" also killed his son in a fit of rage? Damn, it's almost traditional.

@mrgopnik5964

6 ай бұрын

That was different. His son had actively conspired against him.

@f1shake

6 ай бұрын

It's different. His son was part of revolution cell and was planning to kill Peter, so kinda justified?

@joshuahunt3032

6 ай бұрын

@@mrgopnik5964Yeah, Ivan’s reverse-patricide was much more “cold-blooded” and unprovoked. Peter doing so with his son just sounds like responding to a usurpation with violence, and the target just happening to be kin.

@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg

5 ай бұрын

​@@joshuahunt3032 well in Ivan's case he was insane

@michaelschneider8201

5 ай бұрын

Peter was busy with a whole project of rebuilding and reforming Russian army, so that itcould stand against the Swedish one in a lengthy 21-year long war. You know how when he started out, Russia didn't even have a fleet! And in the midst of this, Peter's son actually starts a conspiracy, under the motto of "we don't need all this devilish Western technology, let's just get secluded again". How was Peter supposed to react? "Oh ok, son, feel free to kill me and destroy everythung I've been working on through my entire life" ?

Ivan and his son Ivan is one of my favourite paintings it's so beautiful

That gives the term deadbeat dad a whole nother meaning