Italy: Bad or Cheerful or Great Folks & Breakfast

While traveling through Italy, I have developed a routine for breakfast that I frequently enjoy. I thought I'd take this opportunity to share it with you. I participated in Vinitaly, Italy's premier wine festival. At this event, I encountered a wide range of individuals, including both mischievous and joyful souls. Rest assured, there were far more kind-hearted people. Don't worry too much, as I will show you a glimpse of them in a lighthearted video.
#ItalianWine #ItalianBreakfast #Vinitaly

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  • @alessandrobotti8981
    @alessandrobotti8981 Жыл бұрын

    For anyone that’s confused about italian breakfast: usually it’s just a coffee and a cigarette. If you’re feeling fancy you can add a cornetto.

  • @poiuyt185

    @poiuyt185

    Жыл бұрын

    Your name is so italian 😂

  • @SimoneBattaglia94

    @SimoneBattaglia94

    Жыл бұрын

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH about the Cigarette but kinda true

  • @picklesbrother5744

    @picklesbrother5744

    Жыл бұрын

    hahahahaha

  • @Grizzles56

    @Grizzles56

    Жыл бұрын

    As an Italian I start my day, going to the front door to let out a good fart not to discust my wife..followed by a coffee and a cigerette 😂

  • @carlossousa24

    @carlossousa24

    Жыл бұрын

    If I was in Italy, as an American for breakfast I would have a coffee (which to most Americans is an espresso) and a bread roll with ham or cheese . And some fruit juice

  • @jakeshin1782
    @jakeshin1782 Жыл бұрын

    주최측은 증정된 와인에 대한 서류를 받아오라고 할것이 아니라, 주최측이 사전에 증정용이라는 스티커를 제작해서 각 와이너리들에 배포했어야 할것입니다. 선물을 빼앗는 나쁜 규칙.

  • @Zoltray
    @Zoltray Жыл бұрын

    A thing they do in Campania to taste the mozzarella better is take it out the fridge and put the whole bag of mozzarella into warm water, it taste a lot better when to mozzarella is warm 😋😋

  • @aallpprr8998
    @aallpprr8998 Жыл бұрын

    So sorry to hear about your gift. This is just a small demonstration of how far Italian bureaucracy goes. With some insistence and maybe a little help from the winery the staff would have certainly broken the rules.. this is how it works here

  • @MatteoToti
    @MatteoToti Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry brother for your bad experience in Vinitaly. The worst part of this event are all those unexpert and drunk people with a free pass. But as always you bring me good vibes and it was fun to see you around in my town, walking in those streets that i consider home. Bye my firend hope to see you soon in Verona! ❤

  • @gandgpolaroid6406

    @gandgpolaroid6406

    Жыл бұрын

    Grande Matteo . Bellissima Verona , saluti da Venezia

  • @kj32381
    @kj32381 Жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry that happened to you with the wine. I love Italy and lived there for 3 years as an American. The culture, history and style is one of a kind. But I learned the phrase “bello da lontano” to be so true!

  • @YusssoM
    @YusssoM Жыл бұрын

    Wow, it's always amusing to watch! Thanks for sharing about the wine event!

  • @Arlucity
    @Arlucity Жыл бұрын

    I love watching your videos, i'm learning so much about wine and I will now make it my life goal to try the best wines this world has to offer. THank you so much

  • @andreacatzel8259
    @andreacatzel8259 Жыл бұрын

    Love listening to you talk…. I’m a singer, and hear your glorious bass voice with great joy! ❤

  • @jacoporossi353
    @jacoporossi353 Жыл бұрын

    I was at vinitaly as well so sad I couldn’t meet you, if you come back to Italy I hope there will be another chance. Great content as alway and sorry for the behavior of some Italians

  • @Gatinois
    @Gatinois Жыл бұрын

    Nice breakfast and it is awesome to meet people like Gaia on your trip!

  • @hongkongcat2078
    @hongkongcat2078 Жыл бұрын

    I love Italians' passion for family, food, and good wine. Life is good~❤

  • @exelsior747
    @exelsior747 Жыл бұрын

    한나라의 언어를 유창하게 한다는 것 자체가 여행을 더 풍부하고 재미있게 보낼 수 있다는 것을 와인킹형님 볼때마다 느끼는 중

  • @MDL-lw9my
    @MDL-lw9my Жыл бұрын

    Great insight into the culture. Jay, I admire your always respectful and friendly demeanor, regardless of the situation. Cheers 🥂

  • @trite590
    @trite590 Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god that breakfast looks amazing! I've had fresh tomatoes in Italy and they are VERY different from the ones I can get in the store at home (ripened by laying around in stock/transport). Just a simple baguette with some veggies can be amazing when the ingredients are really fresh and properly ripened.

  • @jojoanggono3229
    @jojoanggono3229 Жыл бұрын

    It is absolutely ridiculous that the event organizer took the gift from you. It's a gift after all.

  • @lowkeyconvert8971

    @lowkeyconvert8971

    Жыл бұрын

    could've just been some security guards (who know nothing about export markets, business and just basic common sense) on a power trip (as usual).

  • @Elektero

    @Elektero

    Жыл бұрын

    you cannot bring bottle outside of Vinitaly. This regulation was done after people with bottles were drunk and were vandalizing the city.

  • @sarac.123

    @sarac.123

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Elektero Mi sembra strano però che le persone agli stand delle cantine non fossero a conoscenza del fatto che potessero requisirgli la bottiglia all'uscita, qualche problema di comunicazione all'interno della fiera c'è

  • @fasted_cardio
    @fasted_cardio Жыл бұрын

    이번 영상은 과거의 그 어떤 영상보다도 좋은데요!! ^^ 생생한 현장 잘 보았습니다 ❤

  • @francesconovazzi
    @francesconovazzi8 ай бұрын

    7:05 Well, I'm italian... And this is pretty accurate lol.

  • @mynameiswatchman6796
    @mynameiswatchman6796 Жыл бұрын

    WOW ! I have to say THAT massive breakfast with that huge pile of cheese and tomato is AMAZING ! I eat that also but not for breakfast. lol Usually as a supper... and not that much because I could never digest all that. I wish I could.... I would be eating it ALL the time. Thanks for your Italy trips. I could watch you eating in Europe ALL DAY !

  • @qq101359
    @qq101359 Жыл бұрын

    언제나 와인킹님의 여유로움? 자신감? 즐거움?.. 무언가 더 적합한 말이 있을텐데 어쨌든 그것에 감탄하고, 그것으로 인해 즐겁게 보고 갑니다. 오늘도 즐거운 13분 8초의 영상이었습니다😊

  • @gagamba9198
    @gagamba9198 Жыл бұрын

    Great trip. I could view hours of footage of your tastings at Vinitaly. I hope someday you visit Georgia.

  • @Jonnhy99
    @Jonnhy99 Жыл бұрын

    I'm making that breakfast next weekend, lol great stuff as always

  • @HoNow222
    @HoNow222 Жыл бұрын

    As an italian and someone who will be going to vinitaly next year (for the first time, I am poor haha) it will be very sad to know that I will probably not see you there! Hope you'll return soon!

  • @9557catfish
    @9557catfish Жыл бұрын

    재밌는 영상 고맙습니다! 마음을 슬프게도 따뜻하게도 만드는 건 결국 사람들 🥰🥰

  • @gandgpolaroid6406
    @gandgpolaroid6406 Жыл бұрын

    Man try the restaurant Tre Garofani close to Venice . A must . Or another one is Al Passo . I’m from Venice and I follow you from 2 years ago . I love your channel man , pure class

  • @MichaelLee-yh7ss
    @MichaelLee-yh7ss Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this episode. Looks like Italians are lovely people but I'm sure showing them that you are interested in their culture and language helps.

  • @joonhyungahn4877
    @joonhyungahn4877 Жыл бұрын

    오늘도 정말 즐겁게 보고 갑니다!

  • @piotrwilczynski6592
    @piotrwilczynski6592 Жыл бұрын

    I've heard that at Vinitaly two years ago, some bottles were stolen, so maybe this year they made a policy that nobody is taking out anything...

  • @robdielemans9189
    @robdielemans9189 Жыл бұрын

    You can keep tomatoes out of the fridge, they keep their fragrance more that way.

  • @user-uk9sm3kq7n
    @user-uk9sm3kq7n Жыл бұрын

    오늘 을지로 황평집에서 인사 드린 구독자입니다! 생각지도 못하게 뵙게 되어서 너무 놀랐어요 ㅎㅎ 항상 잘 보고 있습니다🙂

  • @neilsmith7936
    @neilsmith793611 ай бұрын

    You have to come visit South Africa and do a tour of our wine region in Cape Town and Stellenbosch.

  • @Ecojock
    @Ecojock Жыл бұрын

    I recently discovered your channel and thoroughly enjoy you taking us on your adventures. I am also working my way through your archives. I do have a question, do you buy the wine to take back home or do you recommend the wines to your students/clients?! Thanks again and all the best.

  • @hettel_visual
    @hettel_visual11 ай бұрын

    I don't care at all about wine, but I love the Wine King so much I'm now a huge fan!

  • @user-tk6rv3fu2x
    @user-tk6rv3fu2x Жыл бұрын

    일 끝내고 저녁시간. 좋아하는 와인 한잔에 고단함을 맡기며 시청합니다.^^

  • @onilihua4863
    @onilihua48636 ай бұрын

    Man I really enjoy your content! I wish I knew you when you went to Manduria because I'm really close by! Would have loved to meet you

  • @user-bo9yt5oi3w
    @user-bo9yt5oi3w Жыл бұрын

    잘보고있습니다!

  • @newstalktv828
    @newstalktv82811 ай бұрын

    난 해외 여행도 많이 못한 55세 남자로 사업정리 후 잠깐 쉬면서 보게된 영상이지만 키도 크시고 밝고 사업적 역량도 크시고 그것보다 영상만 보는대도 당신의 밝은 모습과 문화를 즐기는 모습에 좋은 영향 받아요. 나이 먹어도 늘 배우려는 생각을 하는 사람으로써 정말 좋은 영상 늘 감사합니다. 난 원래 술을 못먹기에 와인 또한 나에게 술이라서 ㅎㅎㅎ 하지만 와인으로 보는 세계 여러나라 문화를 간접적으로 경혐하는게 좋네요. 좀 여유롭게 살고 있지는 않지만 보는것으로 만족해야하는 1인임. ㅋ

  • @FilippoFabio-us8le
    @FilippoFabio-us8le11 ай бұрын

    Dear friend caprese salad is always the best ... I suggest you to add a leaf of basil and some dry oregan on the top - and maybe to scrape black pepper if you like - and you will reach the nirvana ... let me know

  • @df71091
    @df71091 Жыл бұрын

    You need to try burrata with thick red balsamico, olive oil, salt and lemon and maybe some black or white pepper on top.

  • @azaroth75
    @azaroth7517 күн бұрын

    dressing the salad using red wine vinegar, olive oil and salt is the best (imho)

  • @dayto251
    @dayto2517 ай бұрын

    와인킹님 너무 좋아~~~~에세이 출간계획 없으십니까? 어쩜 이렇게 유쾌 하신지 궁금합니다.

  • @xslash10x
    @xslash10x Жыл бұрын

    Jay making friends wherever he goes

  • @ziloj-perezivat
    @ziloj-perezivat Жыл бұрын

    olive oil is great for vitamin e, also

  • @MarcioFenelon
    @MarcioFenelon Жыл бұрын

    Would consider doing a trip to Portugal? I always wonder if Portuguese wine is not considered relevant worldwide.

  • @ray-np5hi

    @ray-np5hi

    Жыл бұрын

    I love Portuguese wine. Quinta do noval, roquette&cazes, excellent value. Greeting from China.

  • @JK-sp6zv
    @JK-sp6zv Жыл бұрын

    🤩

  • @user-fw2hl5vc6n
    @user-fw2hl5vc6n Жыл бұрын

    한국을 보는 것 같네요 ㅎㅎ 군자와 망나니가 공존하죠 뭐...그럼에도 두 나라는 충분히 좋은 인상을 주는 나라들입니다.

  • @hyunjunelee968
    @hyunjunelee968 Жыл бұрын

    형님 영상 너무 즐겁게 잘 보았습니다. 조만간 올라올 와인킹스픽 도 기대하고있구요. 먹는것만봐도 건강하실것같지만 그래도 건강하시고 앞으로도 영상 많이 올려주세요. 추신1. 제목이 살짝? 난해했습니다ㅋㅋ 추신2. 피터옹은 잘 계시죠? 피터옹이 너무 뵙고싶습니다 잠깐이라도ㅠ

  • @WarChortle
    @WarChortle Жыл бұрын

    I feel similarly. I was at a Napa wine event and people used it as an excuse just to drink.... I'm like :| this is not it.

  • @pinocleen
    @pinocleen Жыл бұрын

    It's sacrilegious not having any kind of bread with that breakfast!

  • @user-ty5mg1pb7j
    @user-ty5mg1pb7j Жыл бұрын

    같은 남자가 봐도 진짜 멋있네요 ㅎ 항상 응원합니다

  • @user-mw5tq5yw1m
    @user-mw5tq5yw1m11 ай бұрын

    와인에 대해선 모르지만,당신은 참으로 멋진 사람같습니다👍👍👍💘💘💘💘

  • @chrmez
    @chrmez Жыл бұрын

    no tomatoes in the fridge! .. mama mia!

  • @erikwhitney7403
    @erikwhitney7403 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do wine tasting in the Republic of Georgia one of the oldest wine making Countries in the World

  • @bexdiller
    @bexdiller Жыл бұрын

    Would you be able to share the name of the last winery you sat down with, please? (where you had a piece of salami). I'm super curious to try a wine from a winery that's been producing for 11 generations, especially if you like it :)

  • @Benjaminboedker

    @Benjaminboedker

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too! And the lady seemed super friendly. Would love to support her winery.

  • @robertdepesci3418
    @robertdepesci3418 Жыл бұрын

    korean food and wine.......... i can't do it lol. i love each separately on their own.

  • @myopicthunder
    @myopicthunder8 ай бұрын

    You should take him up on his offer maybe a trip to Sardinia

  • @sSJunSs
    @sSJunSs Жыл бұрын

    형은 오늘도 멋있어요 ㅋㅋㅋ

  • @hanyello2056
    @hanyello20565 ай бұрын

    9:52 (she is not dancing, she is talking) looool

  • @jihoonlee4635
    @jihoonlee4635 Жыл бұрын

    행님 아침에 급할때는 라면에 밥말아 먹으면 빠릅니더🤣

  • @antares2767
    @antares2767 Жыл бұрын

    That caprese omg

  • @Arlucity
    @Arlucity Жыл бұрын

    So this is off topic but seeing how you enjoy foods and wines, what type of workouts do you do if any lol I started to run because drinking wine and eating good cheese and salami are making me round. haha thank you!

  • @lowkeyconvert8971

    @lowkeyconvert8971

    11 ай бұрын

    easy. the rest of the time he is eating korean and japanese food which is pretty healthy and smaller portions.

  • @johnm725
    @johnm725 Жыл бұрын

    How much time do you spend in the gym to work off all of this food and wine? That's the real question.

  • @clarenceseedorf8084
    @clarenceseedorf8084 Жыл бұрын

    Were the ladies who gifted you the wine Persian? I can't believe that they're not lol

  • @mariagraziaturchiano9151
    @mariagraziaturchiano915120 күн бұрын

    La colazione dei campioni 💪🏻

  • @ronaldlee8036
    @ronaldlee8036 Жыл бұрын

    아 이탈리아 가고싶네요 ㅠㅠ

  • @Wacoal34d
    @Wacoal34d Жыл бұрын

    What happened to your teacher? I miss him, and he was for me the soul of this channel.

  • @Yevgeny123
    @Yevgeny123 Жыл бұрын

    No sparkling wine for breakfast? ;-)

  • @AdversityVolleyball
    @AdversityVolleyball Жыл бұрын

    Hi I saw you mentioned good wines in puglia, I’m going there soon and wanted to know what wines you’d recommend to buy from puglia, please!

  • @hblock8361

    @hblock8361

    Жыл бұрын

    San Marzano wines are fantastic, in particular Collezione Cinquanta

  • @rms154290
    @rms15429010 ай бұрын

    너무 편하다 ㅎ

  • @simoneginanneschi1773
    @simoneginanneschi1773 Жыл бұрын

    Bad showing from the staff, they should be the ones to make a customer feel at ease, considering it's like the most important event for wines in italy! Sorry from an italian fan

  • @lowkeyconvert8971

    @lowkeyconvert8971

    Жыл бұрын

    asian countries including south korea would be such big and growing markets for italian wines but also just on the level of basic human decency, a bare minimum level of behaviour should be expected. it's ironic, because i think people from asian countries would see italy and other european countries as being elegant and cultured based on on some of the western media they've seen and yet when they go there, their experience can be very bad. what a shame. talk about smashing ideas/illusions of grandeur. perhaps things like this being exposed to the world will gradually give them some self-awareness and put certain aspects of italy in order.

  • @Elektero

    @Elektero

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lowkeyconvert8971 have you seen the same video? he was treated wonderfully by everybody, the only issue is that he was not allow to break law regarding bottles outside the event. Which bare minimum of decency was not respected? you are delusional

  • @lowkeyconvert8971

    @lowkeyconvert8971

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Elektero please be realistic. i am not purely talking about wineking's experience. because you are correct in that he overall had a pretty good experience. but my god, the number of anecdotal stories i have heard and video footage i have seen from asian people, african-americans, africans from africa, indian, arab, etc. etc...basically, anyone who does not have a caucasian appearance and the severity of what they were saying really gave a bad impression. and there were italian people in the comments section (for example youtube or tik tok) agreeing and admitting to these things and apologising on their people's behalf. one need only see how certain international football players and coaches are treated by local 'fans' when they're on the soccer field in italy as well to see how everything corroborates. i want to be clear that this is not every single italian person - same as every other country, you have got good and bad apples - but it seems pretty normalised behaviour as a whole in italy so is problematic.

  • @Elektero

    @Elektero

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lowkeyconvert8971 anecdotes are not evidence. If you claim there is an higher number of racists in Italy with respect to other countries you should bring data. Otherwise you seems to have some kind of crusade against italians, for reason I deduce are of racist nature. As the guy in the video. He even has a video where he mocks Italian accent all through it. This is real evidence as how this guy is biased towards Italians and in general looking to be the victim. He is not.

  • @lowkeyconvert8971

    @lowkeyconvert8971

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Elektero if you had read carefully instead of cherry-picking what you want to read, i had also noted "video footage", so that is actual evidence. i'm afraid that you cannot fix that which you refuse to acknowledge. it's not a matter of comparing yourself to other countries, which frankly, i have heard that spain and italy are the worst in europe for this kind of thing. it's more a matter of trying to find ways to improve one's own country. just because someone mocks an italian accent, doesn't mean it justifies mocking another ethnic group.

  • @saynemmaynem1442
    @saynemmaynem1442 Жыл бұрын

    wineking got that unspoken rizz 🍷🍷

  • @Sevn98
    @Sevn98 Жыл бұрын

    Please Jay, make blind wine reviews with Peter again!😭😭

  • @dt1827
    @dt1827 Жыл бұрын

    i also watching funny today :)

  • @ongs5526
    @ongs5526 Жыл бұрын

    혹시 멤버쉽 지나간 생방도ㅠ보면서 수업 따라갈 수 있나요?

  • @followyourideas
    @followyourideas Жыл бұрын

    You have to go to Argentina. The province of Mendoza has some of the best wines in the world 🌎

  • @Nolanando
    @Nolanando Жыл бұрын

    Damn that is a healthy ass breakfast if I’ve ever seen one… nothing put pure good foods

  • @francmassaneda
    @francmassaneda Жыл бұрын

    About the olive oil quality, the info it's not right at all. The process of the oil making and the olives wich the oil is made from are by far the most important things to take into consideration. I use olive oil daily, a lot, and never took into account - nobody does - the expiration date. 1st you must make sure it's "extra virgin olive oil". If it's not extra virgin, it's directly trash (obviously still a hundred times better than seed oils that are straight poison, but trashy olive oil). And if it is extra virgin olive oil, you gotta make sure who produces and HOW it is produced. It must be cold-press, and not PH-rectified. The easiest way is to buy known local producers or know quality brands from Spain or - more expensive for the same quality - italy

  • @skandargraun9947

    @skandargraun9947

    14 күн бұрын

    All that is so true. Even the extra virgin olive oils' quality varies a lot. You can also tell the difference just by looking at it. The good ones are super smooth and have much sediment at the bottom. Luckily Il Casolare is available where I live, and it stands out from the commercial extra virgin olive oils.

  • @Pufferday
    @Pufferday6 ай бұрын

    저도 이태리경험이 극과극 넘 좋거나 넘 나쁘거나….

  • @binalmalik7739
    @binalmalik773911 ай бұрын

    와우 완전 건강식! ㅎㅎㅎ 가볍진 않네요

  • @user-lt3qp2cj8h
    @user-lt3qp2cj8h Жыл бұрын

    일과 여행을 함께해서 보기 좋습니다 편집은 힘드실듯ㅎ

  • @saerdnaa
    @saerdnaa Жыл бұрын

    Ecco cosa pensano all'estero dell'Italia, video da vedere e rivedere, ma come sempre gli italiani non impareranno nulla.

  • @maevep5282
    @maevep5282 Жыл бұрын

    Pls bring Peter back soon !

  • @radamadam4309
    @radamadam4309 Жыл бұрын

    sorry for your experience , I've had a similar kinda of trip in Italy , everything was so awesome and then everything was so bad , I have a quite dark brown skin colour (from southeast asia) , this doesn't help my situation there , I think you might have noticed this in Italy , especially in Rome.

  • @9908greed
    @9908greed Жыл бұрын

    멋있다 와인킹

  • @drunkntigr
    @drunkntigr Жыл бұрын

    500g of cheese for breakfast. Um...

  • @ONTHEPASSWITHMAX

    @ONTHEPASSWITHMAX

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're tasting, and drinking wine all day, maybe its a good choice?

  • @lyndatelford4370
    @lyndatelford437017 сағат бұрын

    Interesting breakfast but really not what they would eat day to day 😮

  • @user-oe7hf2kc9g
    @user-oe7hf2kc9g10 ай бұрын

    이분 말투나 목소리가 배우 정우성씨랑 비슷하지 않나요?? 저만그렇게느끼는건가요!??😅

  • @user-gm8og8ip2n
    @user-gm8og8ip2n Жыл бұрын

    아침으로 3키로 드시다니!

  • @Zerophoenix1
    @Zerophoenix1 Жыл бұрын

    rey de vino

  • @elephantcastle5110
    @elephantcastle5110 Жыл бұрын

    2000 calorie breakfast 👌

  • @mediolanumclassic
    @mediolanumclassic11 ай бұрын

    In Italy some "authorities" are too arrogant due to the own ego as vanity of the role. Probably you had this taste of it.

  • @boringpeanut
    @boringpeanut6 ай бұрын

    12:03 반주라는 개념보다는 아예 반찬의 개념으로 와인을 생각하는게 좋을거같아요. 사실 우리나라의 식사를 외국인들은 이해 못하잖아요.내 입안에서 음식의 양과 맛, 위치를 조절해가면서 한입한입 변화를 즐기는 밥과 반찬의 마리아주. 우리도 반대로 음식과 와인의 마리아주를 이해못하는거같아요.

  • @jsh1987
    @jsh198711 ай бұрын

    썸네일보고 와인킹이 서어어얼마 머리를 밀었나?!?!? 했네요 ㅎㅎㅎ

  • @cbs77
    @cbs777 ай бұрын

    Tomato in the fridge???? You are ruining it!

  • @lifesnova
    @lifesnova Жыл бұрын

    How do you stay fit eating and drinking all this stuff hahaha

  • @user-cl6bf8ph3v
    @user-cl6bf8ph3v Жыл бұрын

    와인킹's 생생 정보통!

  • @albigiusti
    @albigiusti Жыл бұрын

    Sorry for your gift but that's how it works in Vinitaly, the winery should have known it and issued the document right away, no reason to be mad at the staff for doing their job 😅

  • @dgj9673
    @dgj9673 Жыл бұрын

    Cu편의점에 와인반병 리뷰해주세요

  • @HappyGothGal
    @HappyGothGal3 ай бұрын

    At 11:07 it looked like she grabbed your pinkie-promise with her whole hand and shook it 😹

  • @PetarChakarov
    @PetarChakarov Жыл бұрын

    What if you were gifted a 200€ wine? Theft by the organizers