F-22: You can't see me on radar. A-10: Ha. I don't even have radar.

@debasismohanty1952

2 ай бұрын

F22 raptor to a-10 kid focus on your studies 😂😂😂

@JZsBFF

2 ай бұрын

@@debasismohanty1952 What do you mean?

@debasismohanty1952

2 ай бұрын

@@JZsBFF means f22 raptor can destroy a-10 without facing any problems

@perryallan3524

2 ай бұрын

@@debasismohanty1952 Only if the missile works properly and hits the A-10. I once heard an A-10 Pilot say that if your missile misses that "you are now almost certainly mine - unless you run as fast as you can" He explained that he could outmaneuver any fighter jet out there and and have his nose on the other fighter faster than they could counter or evade if they persisted in the fight.

@JZsBFF

2 ай бұрын

@@debasismohanty1952 If I was a betting pup then I would follow your lead, but as the video explains, the exercises cover all kinds of scenarios. - In the margin I have this interesting anekdote: during WW2 on the Eastern front a German Tiger panzer shot down an Russian ground attack aircraft. The point is: Imagine the impossible, account for the improbable and you'll be ready for the virtual certainty. - From the other perspective: Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

Not using your advantage in speed is a bad idea. Not using your advantage in long range AAMs is a bad idea. Not using your advantage in sensors is a bad idea. But yeah if an F-22 pilot voluntarily gives all that up, sure a A-10 can win.

@thekraken1173

2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the fact that on multiple occasions Dougles A1 Skyraider CAS propplanes shot down mig 17 fighter jets

@spacecat7247

2 ай бұрын

We learned a long time ago that tech is not an end all be all or a garanteed win. Enter top gun training.

@AnimeSunglasses

2 ай бұрын

​@@thekraken1173 I think this is the important part. We have high performance aircraft _voluntarily_ give up advantages in training, because _accidentally_ giving up advantages in combat has happened repeatedly in history. And when it happens again, we want OUR pilots to be the ones prepared to react best to it.

@LackofFaithify

2 ай бұрын

That's the entire point of every single joint exercise this or rolling boil that. The US Military puts on a blindfold, puts in the ear plugs, handcuffs itself to the toilet, and turns out the lights. Ring the bell.

@whyjnot420

2 ай бұрын

@@AnimeSunglasses Not to mention we envision situations where the enemy is more capable than we give them credit for being (and likely more capable than they are in reality) because underestimating an opponent is always a bad idea. If you train to beat a heavyweight world champion in boxing and then your opponent is a middleweight amateur who has only trained to fight others like himself, which one is more likely to win?

Hey FYI the sound glitches out between 2:33 and 2:38.

@SmoochyRoo

2 ай бұрын

classified

@edmondsmith4259

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣​@@SmoochyRoo

@shaunmitchell2069

2 ай бұрын

You tube censorship. Now be a good boy and accept it because they know what's good for you better than you do.🤬

@Ryanowning

2 ай бұрын

It's not a glitch, he was name dropping something that isn't public and probably removed the sound on his own accord to avoid major problems.

@buiItnotbought

2 ай бұрын

That's all i have to say about the war in viet-naam

Alex- as a 2,000 hour Warthog pilot, I would like to tell you that you absolutely nailed it! That was an excellent analysis and very accurate. I tell people that I would turn and fight, or if I have time, dive for the ground and dare them to come down with me. I went nose to nose with an F-16 once who tried to lock an AIM-9 on me. That doesn’t work with a HOG; the engines are cooler and I was down sun. I locked him up with mine, though. Score one for the HOG! Mike “Mustang”

@99PMoon

2 ай бұрын

As a retired M1 crewmember. If an A10 pilot is on post. He drinks for free. He might regret it though, LOL.

@malkierie

2 ай бұрын

And that's what Ive understood as A-10 air combat doctrine. Pull them into your briar patch so to speak and fight to the A-10's strengths. Use that armor, GAU-8 & your own A2A missiles. Last I checked A-10 was designed to fly after a direct missile hit to an engine so also designed to take more of a beating vs air superiority fighter

oh no, dont let the kid hear that. He's been waiting for someone to intercept him! (shout out to you habitual Linecrosser)

@JIKwood

2 ай бұрын

The kid would be incredibly upset.

I bet that F22 pilot had to buy a few beers after that.

Circa 1991, I was the Sensor Operator in the backseat of an S-3A Viking... and we were on an Air Combat Maneuvering(ACM) hop out of North Island. Pilot was the Commander of Air Wing 2, Captain "Rabbit" Campbell. Out in the So Cal Op Area, Rabbit had an F-14 Tomcat totally locked up off our nose. As everyone knows, the Viking had no offensive weapons, but it sure was a cool sight to see that Tomcat on our nose trying to out turn us. Fun times.

@Hardball1Alpha

2 ай бұрын

More accurately, no forward firing anti-aircraft munitions... But maybe a hot Viking pilot could take out an opposing aircraft with a Harpoon anti-ship missile.

@casematecardinal

2 ай бұрын

​@@Hardball1Alpha swatting flies with bullets

If a musketeer get's close to a knight in full armor carrying a poll-axe he's not going to have a good day. He stays back and shoots the knight from a distance the knight is not going to have a good day. It's all about context.

@factChecker01

2 ай бұрын

Good analogy. In addition to that, F-22s are sometimes used in training dogfights without dropping their external fuel tanks. That is a real handicap.

@trplankowner3323

2 ай бұрын

Haven't seen much heavy plate armor, have you? I doubt you've ever fired a musket either. Even the famous Brown Bess would be lucky to hit a man-sized target at greater than 10 yards. (There's a reason people coined the term "can't hit the broad side of a barn") Many plate armor cuirasses exist that still show the armorer's proof mark, where he fired a musket or pistol into the plate a point-blank range to demonstrate his armor was of good quality and would stop a musket ball. Furthermore, chainmail would often stop a musket ball as well. However, while your example is flawed, your point is well taken! There are a great many very maneuverable jets and even turboprops that can defeat an F-22 IF the Raptor is put in a bad position. The likelihood of that situation ever happening in actual combat is so minutely greater than zero as to be undeterminable, IMHO.

@silverjohn6037

2 ай бұрын

@@trplankowner3323 Please take this in the spirit which it's offered but I'm thinking you may have got a bad source for some of your information;). Modern re-enactors using replica muskets are easily able to hit chest sized targets at 50-60 yards and man sized targets out to 100 yards. I'll link to just one video below. The portion about accuracy kicks in at around the 3 minute mark. The breastplates with the proof marks you mentioned were also being proofed against pistol fire not musket fire as they were meant for cavalry use. It's the reason breastplates fell out of favor but muskets survived for another hundred plus years. Of course, in the analogy I was using, the musketeers would still be using the old matchlock guns. Those were heavier caliber than the Brown Bess so they would unquestionably have been able to punch through a breastplate. Their accuracy and rate of fire wasn't that great though and, as it was before the bayonet was developed, the musketeers carried rapiers and arming swords for close combat or assaults into the forts of their time. Basically the era of the Vauban style star forts. In any case please don't take this as a criticism as you're repeating widely held views which you've probably been told by someone you trusted or a website that seemed credible. It's just best to look into some of these widely accepted truths as the first step is always going to be knowing enough to know how little you know;). kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGaWsLhylZSde9I.html

@trplankowner3323

2 ай бұрын

@@silverjohn6037 Those re-enactors are using weapons of a quality that could not be had during the Renaissance. That sort of quality couldn't be found until the second industrial revolution. By then most firearms had moved on from muzzle loading to cartridges. It wasn't the penetrating power of firearms that did away with the wearing of armor (today's combatants are beginning to use an ever increasing amount of body armor), it was the economics of weapons, armor and supply. Officers and other leaders often wore personal armor well into the Nineteenth Century. That armor had less use as the number of troops armed with firearms around them increased. Those economic factors are what lead to the Imjin War. Japan's inability to sustain that economic factor due to Korean naval superiority led to their eventual defeat / withdrawal from Korea. Muskets, whether matchlock or flintlock, were cheap compared to the cost of plate armor hand made by a master armorer. Just as longbows were cheap compared to a well made sword, ax or polearm only a century or two before.

@Coinz8

2 ай бұрын

Chainmail, stopping a musket ball? LOL I call bullshit on that! Even if the chainmail successfully stopped the ball, the kinetic energy from the ball would still cause immense internal damage. @@trplankowner3323

In one exercise an F-22 pilot saw a flight of C-130's down in the weeds. The F-22 pilot dove to get the easy kill. He did not see the A-10 that was trailing the C-130, who promptly killed it

@Ariccio123

2 ай бұрын

Why did he dive He was flying a missile truck

@cruisinguy6024

2 ай бұрын

@@Ariccio123ROE might have required visual identification, or the f22 was Winchester, or perhaps it was a guns only exercise

@Ariccio123

2 ай бұрын

@@cruisinguy6024 ah, well, one thing the f-35 has over everybody else, that kickass DAS can visually identify things from crazy far away

@cockatoofan

2 ай бұрын

​@@Ariccio123an infrared image isn't going to cover the rules of engagement in most of anywhere. And if it did then IFF would certainly also be enough. Identifying just the type of aircraft isn't enough because multiple countries operate the same types.

@NickSteffen

2 ай бұрын

@@cockatoofan This is one area where “drone wingmen” can be a big assistance. They can help make that visual identification and show the image to the pilot. That said, in early high intensity conflict roe will likely allow for engagement without visual identification, which is the military’s main planning target right now. Obviously the extended high intensity conflict in Vietnam’s provides a counter point. But in that type of environment drones can be a huge help. In desert storm RoE required two forms of electronic identification to not require visual identification, this could be something like a NCTR radar identifier and a thermal signature. It could also use various forms of IFF detection. (Having your detectors figure out how to abuse the enemies IFF to identify them has been a bit of a cat and mouse game.) The f35 and f22 are drowning in additional sensors that could do this.

Many years ago, I was reading an article in a TAC Attack magazine,(yes ,I'm old), The article was discussing Janes rating of fighters, they gave an Honorable mention to the A-10. The reasoning was that while not a fighter, if you found yourself on the wrong end of that 30mm, you were going to have a very bad day.

@metatechnologist

2 ай бұрын

Interesting times. I remember Pop Mechanics covering the latest military hardware on their cover. There's hardware now that we could never dream about back then!

@tmike_tc

2 ай бұрын

That and they can maneuver around in space of half a football field. It’s incredible.

@anthonykaiser974

2 ай бұрын

Yep. Super maneuverbility plus longer gun range with a more destructive round. Mess with the Hawg, you get the tusks.

With respect I think the explanation at the end regarding why we hear about F-22 or F-35 losing in mock battles is only half the story. The other half is the level of transparency we have in the west. Places like russia or china cannot ever allow themselves to be seen to be wrong or do bad. Or to be simply perceived as such. Even in tests.

I once saw a comment by a fighter pilot that he watched an A-10 reverse course on him INSIDE the circle of his gunsight. Even at an extended range, that is really good turn capability!!

@Vagabondobiondo

2 ай бұрын

F-22: "I have you now" A-10: "no u"

@petesheppard1709

2 ай бұрын

@@Vagabondobiondo Yep. Even if the fast jet gets a missile off, the Hog would have time to get in a killing burst.

Sandbox: A-10 can shoot down a F-22 China: Begins building A-10s 😁

@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88

2 ай бұрын

If you've ever heard the expression "Tofu-Dreg" then you'll understand why I'm not worried about *_"new"_* Chinese technology. Sure, on paper the jets are a formidable opponent. But once they are used in actual combat scenarios those "formidable" jets will turn out to be as solid a platform as Chinese skyscrapers, bridges, dams and everything else that they build. Just as we are seeing with russian equipment, the corruption that is so rampant and prevalent among all chinese endeavors has degraded all hopes of having reliable kit. What looks scary during a PowerPoint presentation is in reality just a way for select chinese officials to sequester large sums of money.

@mmancino1982

2 ай бұрын

true but it's always good to train under the assumption that the tech is as good or better then what you're fielding

@barryelverson9486

2 ай бұрын

Be the innovator or be the copycat and make poor imitations. Lead or be led. Russia and China have a long history or just copying. But some of those copies are pretty good.

@trplankowner3323

2 ай бұрын

@@barryelverson9486 China has a reputation for copying, not so much Russia. They prefer to do things their way and mostly resort to copying when they can't think anything better. However, lately neither have done much in the way of innovation.

@trplankowner3323

2 ай бұрын

@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 "on paper the jets are a formidable opponent", not really. If I were an F-22 or F-35 pilot I wouldn't be the slightest concerned with the J-20. It has subpar engines, stealth about as good as the B-1B and is armed with missiles equivalent to the Roman candles I buy from the fireworks shop.

Having heard many stories of air combat over the decades, I'd like to say I'm pretty sure that "Situational Awareness" is the single biggest key in determining whether you survive an enemy encounter or not... So, honestly, I'm not surprised that a Thunderbolt II has a Raptor kill.

I saw them flying over Ramstein when I was a kid and I was really impressed by their turn radius. A-10´s are quite agile for what they look like.

@mmancino1982

2 ай бұрын

It's that massive straight wing with high lift and slow speed. Such a cool plane

@BoraHorzaGobuchul

2 ай бұрын

Slower planes generally turn better. Take warbirds, most of them will easily outturn modern aircraft. If you do flight sims, you can see for yourself how hard it is to fight a WW2 aircraft while flying a modern fighter, particularly with cannon.

@CorePathway

2 ай бұрын

First time I saw an A-10 it was BELOW me. We were on a terrain walk in West Germany, on several hundred feet of elevation.

@tmike_tc

2 ай бұрын

A-10s can maneuver in the space above half a football field! Until you’re out of either fuel or ammunition.

@angelosasso1653

2 ай бұрын

@@CorePathway Probably close to Ramstein-Miesenbach I think...

Great video! Back in the day, the F14 and F15 got "kills" on the SR-71. But only after more advanced SR-71 capabilities were barred from use and other severe disadvantages were put on the Blackbird. Any plane can shoot down any other plane if the right set of circumstances arise.

So true! Many pilots that were shot down in history and survived have said: "I never saw it coming." Situational awareness is most important. The A10 is most likely the best ground attack aircraft in history. Whatever it shoots at is in mortal danger!

As Sun Tzu might have said, in a fair fight you have lost.

@killman369547

2 ай бұрын

I prefer the phrase "If you find yourself in a fair fight you did... several things wrong."

@kennethng8346

2 ай бұрын

The winner will know when to fight and when not to fight (paraphrase).

When l was kid in the 80s playing starwars in the Norfolk uk countryside these were our ti fighters Happy days😁

You really love those spicy meatball headlines 😉

I recall exercises in the 80ties when old Swedish attack birds where used as oppfor and they could win.. possibly as they where piloted by very experinend pilots and the fighter pilots where tired after a few days simulated war.

@silverjohn6037

2 ай бұрын

American A-10 pilots are usually able to stay in the pilot's seat a lot longer than fighter pilots. The g-forces aren't as hard on the body long term and a lot of the A-10 squadrons are reserve units so the up or out promotion cycle for the reg force isn't as big a deal.

@brendanh8978

2 ай бұрын

At least once in Vietnam, an A1 skyraider shot down a MIG with its cannons. Think it was a head-on closure situation where the MIG didn't respect the guns. On the mission where Leo Thorsness earned the MOH, a couple of A1s got bounced by MIG 15s. One got shot down, but the other stayed alive until Leo arrived to take the heat off by staying low and turning hard. If it had sidewinders, especially the ones we have today, it could have made the MIGs pay a price.

Excellent explanation of a slightly complicated situation. I recently learned about how a F-117 Nighthawk was shot down by a SAM during the Kosovo war. It was a very specific situation where the enemy took advantage of the F-117 having to open their bay doors to drop a bomb, plus excellent intelligence about where the F-117 would be coming from. The explanation gave a lot more context, as the above video did. Quirky ending is that the pilot who was shot down and the officer who used the SAM to do so, are now lifelong friends as are their families. In any event, I wish we (America) could have more of these kinds of helpful, calm discussions with real information, enabling us to rationally come up with possible solutions to complex problems.

"iiii'mmm Alex Hollings...and THIS is AIRPOWER!!!!! FTW!

In Desert Storm the funny thing is, they just hung the AIM-9s on the A-10, checked if the pilot could hear a tone from it, and launched them. They never actually fired one in testing. That's why the two A-A kills stories both start with the AIM-9 not working. They required additional software. After ODS they actually did some testing and got the A-10 to fire the -9 and hit a hot target.

The same way an A-1 Skyraider downed a MIG-17 in Vietnam.

@imbetterthanyouis

2 ай бұрын

RAN sea fury killed a mig 15 in korea

At 2:33 your audio abruptly cuts out and returns at 2:38. Love the channel.

@proxy3386

2 ай бұрын

From what I heard on another comment surrounding this, the replies of said comment said that it was something classified / non-public information and that Alex probably removed it of his own accord.

There's a weird audio gap around 2:35. Love your videos.

@ARandomCustodian

2 ай бұрын

I think that was a Redaction and not a glitch.

@mitchwagner2693

2 ай бұрын

@@ARandomCustodian You're probably right, it did seem intentional. I figured I'd comment just in case it was something to do with my browser choice.

@mitchwagner2693

Ай бұрын

@@ARandomCustodian you're probably right, it did seem like an edited jump vs technical error.

Excellent video Alex, as always great context, explained through a great depth of knowledge, Cheers.👍

As always is a great pleasure to watch your videos. Thanks for your effort and information you put on this video! Keep on it! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹

Dude really good seeing your channel grow. You throw down excellent content every time.

good to see you feeling better

In the eighties when I was in Germany I saw flash above my head and it was an A-10 it quickly banked right straight down a canyon then much to my surprise an F4 at low altitude buckled my knees and I drop like a sack of potatoes. (Phantoms are f- ing loud as F) The maneuverability of an A-10 is absolutely astounding and in mountainous Terrain very elusive. (Oh and quiet)

That huge straight wing will likely give amazing turn performance it it isn't heavy.

I have always had a soft spot for the A-10 since being a kid growing up in rural England in the 1980s. One day I was walking back home from my school bus stop when I heard a roaring noise and looked up to see an A-10 flying overhead from right to left while making a slow turn. A sight I will never forget. Cold War days, when seeing various war planes overhead was not that uncommon. On a tangent, did anyone else have a gap in sound from around 2:32 to 2:37?

Now that is a video I like short to the point and informative.

great stuff man

The military also utilizes the Apache to shoot down jets in training

@phasor50

2 ай бұрын

Didn't this happen IRL in one of the Gulf wars?

@antarashnia84

2 ай бұрын

@@phasor50 there was a few in the Vietnam war and some in the Iraq Iran War.

@Fieryconviction

2 ай бұрын

@@antarashnia84wouldn’t u mean AH-1 Cobras in Vietnam? Vietnam was too early for Apaches to exist

@antarashnia84

2 ай бұрын

@@Fieryconviction yes I was just referring to when helicopters have shot down jets

Thank you, Alex. Very well put.

That's it.. Cancel the NGAD, retire the Raptor, stop buying the F-35s and let's build 10 000 A-10s... That's the future. Pierre Spray was right, right?

@shyneus9773

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Upgrade the A-10 too. It's too heavy as it is. It needs less wing pylons, scrap the titanium cockpit armour, ejection seat out. Targeting pod? What the fuck is a targeting pod???

@bigadult8356

2 ай бұрын

F-22s are much more maneuverable and they can easily outrun the A-10.

A knife fight in a phone booth.... except instead of a knife, you've got a chainsaw.

Good video. Thanks for clearing things up. Sometimes these things are misleading.

This is something that needs more attention. A lot of people hear that great fighter X lost to less capable aircraft Y and that means we should be buying Y since it's a lot cheaper, or it's the Military Industrial Complex and Big Ammo along with the top brass on the take, and if only we'd build more of this we'd all be better off. The key point is that if you only train in situations where you always win, then...well, you are most air forces in the world for one thing. But the other thing is that neither the pilots in that situation learn anything nor are they prepared mentally for a situation where they are at an advantage or disadvantage. Training so you always win (or always lose) is just an ego exercise and a waste of fuel and pilot stick time.

I wonder how many A-10 kill markers would be on the sides of F-22s if they didn't have to worry about messing up the stealth coating.

Training against unusual adversaries helps keep our pilots sharp. This is part of why our Air Force is top notch!

Thanks Alex

That closing statement was fire 🔥 “The reason you heard about those stories at all, is even with the deck stacked against, it the F22 still almost always comes out on top and when it doesn’t it’s headline news, because anomalies make for good headlines.” You are a fantastic military aviation journalist, thanks for all your hard work!

If it was a BVR fight the A-10 gets smoked. Fight on in VR the A-10 while min-ranging the missiles an A-10 can beat the F-22. The A-10 can out rate the F-22 if the stars are aligned just right.

@soulessshadow5356

2 ай бұрын

I mean that's just obvious lol. Warthog isn't designed in any way to be in a BVR fight, and even the weakest jets in the skies would make mince meat out of it from BVR.

@verdebusterAP

2 ай бұрын

How about no The USAF didnt add the AIM-9X to the A-10, it can only use AIM-9M AIM-9M very low chances again an F-22

@mattadams7922

2 ай бұрын

​@@verdebusterAPincorrect but it's ok. Aim 9 m can definitely tally ho any jet in the sky. It can track the heat off the F22 just fine especially from behind it's not even a question.

@Azframer

2 ай бұрын

@@verdebusterAP you are forgetting about the 30mm in the nose. I've seen the A-10 with a F-22 kill painted on it. Granted it was an electronic kill, it did happen.

@Azframer

2 ай бұрын

@@verdebusterAP another known fact now that I know it was the demo team A-10 that got the kill. The demo team setup is different than the other Hogs. When the Demo Hogs do max deflection with their ailerons their spoilers deploy giving them a higher roll rate. The part of the aileron that is in the airflow is up higher, the other side is flush with the wing.

IIRC the A-10 and the AH-64 make for a deadly duo.

Thanks Alex🇺🇸

Those big, fat, thick Hershey bar wings definitely confer certain advantages.

One of the reason the F22 doesn't win in air combat engagements is that the pilot isn't permitted to stress the airframe, were as a Swedish pilot can do 9g+ and flies an aircraft that has airframes in production, an f22 can't be replaced if it overstresses one times too many.

Great piece on what was clearly a great training exercise, as usual for the US military. Better to “die” in a training exercise than in real life war.

Was there a sound glitch in there? Or did you have to edit something out? About three seconds of silence…

@LackofFaithify

2 ай бұрын

If he tells you....

I met a retired soviet fighter instructor while attending CR England training school in Cedarhill Tx. He said pilots were told not to engage the A-10 below 10,000 feet . They would be outturned and outgunned . He flew the mig 25 foxbat , mig 21, mig 29 fulcrum,. Class of 2016.

Very well said

Isn't their video of this incident? I believe their was a cockpit cam of the F-22

Air defense, on a battlefield, has an important piece that can “get” slow flying CAS. Since CAS is usually two infantries (plus armor) engaged, SOME of those soldiers will have Javelin-like missiles. A-10 doesn’t have enough armor for those. Tanks don’t have enough armor for those, either…

@mekboy7403

2 ай бұрын

Javelins and some other ATGMs can target aircraft but most are way too slow to hit anything faster than helicopters

I really enjoy your work. Would it be possible to do a video on Turkey’s new fighter plane?

Did the audio cut out for anyone else at 2:33 ?

2:38 Okay, I didn’t just suddenly go deaf. Whew😮‍💨‼️

Never heard of this with the 22. I have heard of the Wart Hogs taking down 16s, and 18s. They are dam good ole planes.

Maybe the A-10 should have been called the Honey Badger. Those little things are nasty, nasty, nasty. There are a few bear who learnt the wrong way to give those things a wide birth, they're always in a bad mood and ready to share it.

I've only seen the intro so far so I'm going to guess it was a gun kill. Stealth is great but you can't use flares or chaff against bullets and the A-10 spits spicy cans of Red Bull. (edited to correct a typo)

Hey Alex I don't know if you're reading this but your audio cut out at the 2 minute 30 second mark

Alex, any help in what was the narrative at 2:32-2:37? Silence right there, and I'm pretty sure it was important info.

The new f22 raptor is awesome it has some of the NGAD Components now. It would be interesting to see how it does nowadays

Great video. I had my finger hovering over the Dislike button the whole time, with that clickbait headline. But the video was terrific, I'd upvote it twice if I could. Checking out the rest of the channel now.

As someone with 3 virtual dogfight kills with the A-10C and AIM-9Ms, it's low speed can catch people off guard in a merge. Not very often tho 😢

I could definitely see an a10 being very deadly in a mountain and canyons environment where it could use the terrain to make it more of a gun fight. I would hate to get into a “cage” fight with one if I was a fighter pilot because you know if the gun gets you it’s over right then. I wonder how the a10 armor holds up against other jets cannons.

@absalomdraconis

2 ай бұрын

Probably not that great, but the other fighter had better either win quick or escape quick, because the only modern fighter out-turning an A-10 is a hovering F-35 (and I'm not sure those can fire from a hover).

sweet finishing sentence

The platform does not win or lose; the various weapon systems and effective use by the pilot determines the wins.

Seen A10 taking of from Bagram, many times. As soon as they are airborne, they can maneuver. Very nimble. And a good friend to have in the sky. But a effective combination of drones, attack helicopters and high flying jets of all sizes(F16 - B1B), meant they weren't used much. Because of the risk of collateral damage. There were some unfortunate incidents in Iraq with A10s. But.. They might do some good in Ukraine!?

What's with the silence at 2:30 while talking about the sidewinder? Is that how the A-10 took out the F-22, but you can't say it?

I always wondered in exercise where a F22 is going up against a A10 does the F22 pilot know they are going to face off with the A10 or are they just told to go to this area and find out?

2:30 Lost audio.

Yeah, you’d be very wise to respect that 30 mm cannon sticking out the nose of that airframe.

I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of the 30mm Gatling. I also wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of the AC-130.

Back in the early ´90ies, I saw an A10, wich is a rare look around here. Then in came a F16, and I thourght "good bye A10". But man, what a show of flying I was given! I never dreamt of it could move like that, and I just stood there on the sidewalk with my mouth open, and enjoyed the performance. I don´t think the F16 got him, he was like an eel, slippery and very hard to get a hold on. ;o)

How many A-10 pilots had "Gator" as a call sign?

Why did the sound blank out?

"Ha-haa! I am THE RAPTOR! I'm swift! I'm stealthy! I'm sexy! What have you got that can compete, old-ti--" *BRAAAP!* "Yeah, right, punk. Go ahead. Make my day."

I think your audio dropped out for a bit.

lol! Many years ago, I would take an A-10 out into air to air combat arena in an online game. I think it was Janes USAF or something. I would just hang out in the mountains cruising through canyons and occasionally pop up to let people know I was there. Dudes with fighters would come over looking for the easy kill. About half would drop in from high altitude, hit me with a short range missile, and carry on with their day. But the other half would come in within a few thousand of my altitude, so as they popped over the ridgeline and tried to get a lock, I would use the A-10's insane turn rate to flip around and Brrrt. I ended up with a very average kill ratio close to 1:1. Flying an A-10.

F-22: Has superior speed, radar, targeting, countermeasures, and weapons A-10: "Nah, I'd win."

I once heard an A-10 Pilot say that if your missile misses that "you are now almost certainly mine - unless you run as fast as you can" He explained that he could outmaneuver any fighter jet out there and and have his nose on the other fighter faster than they could counter or evade if they persisted in the fight.

hey just to let you know the audio cuts out at 2:32

Back in the 80's at Davis Monthan AFB I picked up a F-15 pilot (O-5) from his aircraft as we are exiting the ramp we drove past a row of A-10's, I said I bet you can take these A-10's in a dog fight. The pilot responded "no they take us out just about every time. The a-10 is flying low and slow and we don't always detect or see them till we have gone past them, at that point they only have to pull the nose up and shoot us with that bug gun. " Respect!

@frankvance7806

2 ай бұрын

Thats Big gun not Bug LOL

@malkierie

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for chiming in with this.

Audio issues!

There is absolutely no such thing as a, “fair” fight, or it is not a real fight!

So these match ups put the more capable aircraft at a disadvantage? Are you trying to say the A-10 had one engine out and half a wing?

“We are going to retire the A-10” A-10 “takes down the “King of the sky”” “Nvm”

I thought training "victories" would not be painted on the side of combat aircraft, only ACTUAL combat victories. Since training us just that - exercises to instruct pilots and may be set up to put the superior aircraft at a disadvantage, it seems like almost a "participation award" to paint a training victory on your aircraft.

Wtf was the silence at 2:34 about?

I had 3 F-15C kills when I flew F-111s in 2 Red Flag exercises. The F-15s rolled in on our front element and did not see us trailers. We were able to take easy AIM-9M shots. If the better fighter loses SA or does not check 6, it is vulnerable.

What do you guys think was redacted at 2:33 ?

Will the A-10 be equipped with the AIM-9X?

Talk about the Pye Wacket Missile. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen

Why does the sound cut out from 2:32 to 2:38?

What is the range of the 30mm gun on the A-10? Anyone know?

2:30...MIA! Guess we don't need to know ;-)