$20K mark-ups, here we come!

@Dusdaddy

2 ай бұрын

Haven't seen that on many Tacomas around here.

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix

2 ай бұрын

Only if stupid people are willing to pay to get it. If people stopped biying marked up vehicles, they'd stop, but they're not going to so as a result they'll keep marking them up.

@providentpathfinders219

2 ай бұрын

that’s why you buy through toyota……they don’t allow fluff fees from the stealerships

@Dusdaddy

2 ай бұрын

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Like they say, "You can't fix stupid..."

@jwlafferty

2 ай бұрын

Can you buy direct from Toyota?

That rear emblem is the first thing coming off lol

@pinkipipe

2 ай бұрын

💯 % agree

@myytchannel6632

2 ай бұрын

Well, have your $60,000 plus ready then if you want to say that. The early buyers would pay an arm and a leg for this car.

@Troy342

2 ай бұрын

No kidding that’s about stupid

@johnmaruca1872

2 ай бұрын

Ugh! More chrome to hide/remove...

@purplehaze1022

2 ай бұрын

I hope its just there so we know its a 4runner just as a sneak peek and not finished product

I'm 5 4Runners deep, Generations 3,4&5... I love my roll down back glass... Hope it carries over... Although its a Japanese vehicle, (which is good) the roll down back glass is very American... Old Jeeps had it & the station wagons some of us grew up with had them as well.

@lolotus4borderless

2 ай бұрын

Gosh I miss those

I wondered how fast you guys would jump on this. I was so excited when I saw their post.

You guys killed me with your talk of only the tailgate showing.

@kevinkidneyy

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Dealerships salivating

There has never been an SR 4Runner the lowest has been SR5.

A brand new 1st gen 4Runner, if it was possible. ....

@jameshumphrey3425

2 ай бұрын

How’d you get that heart?

@bosse641

2 ай бұрын

@@jameshumphrey3425 ....it's in the smiley face section as an option, one among many.

@jameshumphrey3425

2 ай бұрын

@@bosse641 hm, must be an android thing

@bosse641

2 ай бұрын

@@jameshumphrey3425 ...I'm on a laptop, windows 11.

@twystedhumour

2 ай бұрын

@@jameshumphrey3425 No, is Windows...

Thank you for the update. I often can be critical with many of the speculative videos you put out, but this was well done. Although it is your channel, a 45 minute speculative video will always get skipped by me and I'm sure many others. As for the 4 Runner, Toyota (like many others) will continue on their warpath against engine displacement and add turbos (and complexity) to small engines on heavy vehicles and in 5-8 years we will see the negative effects of this, particularly just beyond their warranty period. From what I am seeing across the board, the only true benefit that anyone is experiencing is faster acceleration. Fuel economy is marginally better, which could arguably be a result of a newer transmission with more gears, which means millions of dollars wasted for minimal gains. The negative impacts of the complexity/smaller turbo engines will impact their resale value in 10 years and we could possibly see prices on previous gen Tacoma's go the way of the FJ40.

I'll say this for the new 4Runner: it already has more interesting color choices than the GX550. Here's hoping it gets a good green and red, unlike the new Land Cruiser.

I don't like the placement of the 4runner letters. it just seems odd imo.

@CACressida

2 ай бұрын

I hate the new badge and placement.

@555atU

2 ай бұрын

I agree...it's too refined. It's not the 4Runner's prowess of being a rugged, everyday vehicle that's appreciated for its relative simplicity that just works well..

@momoGuavajelly

2 ай бұрын

& why are they still potentially using chrome-ish badging on anything other than Limited trims?

@huanronghu4432

2 ай бұрын

@@momoGuavajelly they will likely black them out for the trd pro and trd off road trims

@huanronghu4432

2 ай бұрын

@@CACressida blame the new sequoia for starting that trend. i would hate it more if the roll down rear window gets removed like the new sequoia did

Finally the 4Runner is going back to roots with that inline 4

Is it possible they will drop trd pro or off road versions for 2025 since they don't want it to compete with 55k land cruiser?

hope the screen will be built into the interior like the Land Cruiser

What a way for Toyota to hold people off on buying a new vehicle this summer. Now I gotta wait until they fully unveil this car to decided which vehicle to buy

@geeeee8268

2 ай бұрын

If you are one of those who line up to pay huge markup, sure.

@WW-wf8tu

2 ай бұрын

Don't wait. Buy it while it still has a 4.0 liter. Cannot stress that enough. Smaller engines have their place in the world, but if you tow or are working the engine hard on a regular basis, you don't want smaller displacement.

@jwlafferty

2 ай бұрын

Me too. Was going to go GX or another Defender. If this vehicle is compelling and I can save 10s of thousands over the other two, it may be worth it.

@maplelodge2

2 ай бұрын

@@jwlafferty I really like the GX but it’s out of my budget. I’ll wait for a lease return in a few years. Hopefully the 4Runner will be price appropriately. But my gut feeling it’s gonna be around the same or slightly more than Tacoma as starting price.

I was waiting on you all to make this video.😊😊

I always thought the manual was dead and I had to find a unicorn third gen. But… maybe? Is it possible??? I will be first in line for a manual 6th gen!!

Andre and Nathan, The first generation 4Runner would fit inside the new one. We are still hoping Toyota has a compact 4x4 in their North American product pipeline 🤞🤞

@RedWingsninetyone

2 ай бұрын

I'm not holding my breath thanks to efficiency regulations :/

@Wrangler59

2 ай бұрын

You got the Rav4 TRD Off Road 😂🤣

@kenhoward3512

2 ай бұрын

@@Wrangler59 We're talking smaller. Like the Gen-1 or Gen-2 RAV4.

@fredmertz3837

2 ай бұрын

@@kenhoward3512 Need a 4 Runner that can hold two dog crates with rear seats folded flat. Size of dog crates is for a smooth collie and also hold my gear. Nead that flat floor. Currently have a 2012 GC and the floor is flat with skidplates etc.

@emikomina

2 ай бұрын

There has been a lot of credible rumours about the Land Cruiser FJ, I'm just worried if it will come stateside if at all.

The fact they used that blue colour tells me it will be hybrid or fully electric

@Rocket9944

2 ай бұрын

Toyota said they're staying away from fully electric vehicles for now

Also your pricing outlook is off - the 4runner slots above the Highlander with respect to price. Rav4, Highlander, 4Runner, Land Cruiser, etc....

What are we seeing as far as durability out of the new 4 cylinder turbo In the new Toyota Tacoma / 4Runner . I’m not quite sold on it yet.

I had the 1987 Toyota 4Runner 22RE! and it was a blast🤗

That “4Runner” emblem on the tailgate looks soooo tacky.

@chiefdan07

2 ай бұрын

Might take it off when I get one LOL

@condor11cDR

2 ай бұрын

Immediately getting debadged

@jfish9014

2 ай бұрын

Yeah what’s that about?

@edwinsalgado669

2 ай бұрын

The exact first thing that came to mind.

@FRMN8R_T4R

2 ай бұрын

4 R U N N E R

One guys looks like he is trying to convince the other guy what he is trying to convince

Will the 4Runner still be made in Japan ? I would assume the Mexico plant is at capacity building Tacomas. Can you find out when you meet with Toyota next month. Aloha

@FRMN8R_T4R

2 ай бұрын

From what I've heard yes, it will still be made in the Tahara plant.

@Rocket9944

2 ай бұрын

​@FRMN8R_T4R , Would that be in Japan?????

cant wait to see what toyota has to offer on this one

Waiting for next generation HILUX and FORTUNER in South Africa

6 speed manual with optional 4.7 V8. Hey, it’s okay to dream

Nice 👏👏

I think it will be priced lower, but all the ones you find at dealers will be as high as the Landcruiser.

@lexwaldez

2 ай бұрын

Patience grasshopper. There's no need to be first. I can wait for prices to come down OR I'll be happy to pony up for a one or two year old used vehicle. Although it might look like there are an infinite number of idiots willing to shell out $20k above MSRP I think that number is limited even if the market isn't saturated quite yet. Hell, I'm glad I can't get a Landcruiser 1958 right now, because I have two more years tuition for the child and I really want one. LOL In the meantime I [we] can all save up and avoid a big car loan down the road. Weird, right?

@ericvolkman1490

2 ай бұрын

Then just buy the Land Cruiser if they are equal price By doing so you will lower the demand and thus people ice for me I thank you for your generosity in advance😅

@gregss.771

2 ай бұрын

@@lexwaldez I can wait, I just paid off my 2019 Ranger, so I am not ready for a new payment.

Still made in Japan?

@mrvwbug4423

2 ай бұрын

All but confirmed that it will be made at the Tahara plant as always

@americandude3825

2 ай бұрын

I saw a gx550 video in Japan and it showed the 4R there still of course - so I’m hoping it continues.

@TJ-oi5qe

2 ай бұрын

Seems unlikely

@deanrotering879

2 ай бұрын

They aren’t going to change where they make the cash cow lol

@shawnsponds

2 ай бұрын

No it's the same as the poorly made tundra

Like the new color as it looks similar to hydro blue. Yes it needs a roll down window

I'm just here to read comments/bitching about turbo 4 cylinder engines.

@brontoab1

2 ай бұрын

Yeah it's awful. WTF is toyota thinking?

@jza80king

2 ай бұрын

Lol I think the jury is still out on the new turbo engines. But if you look at Toyota engines from the past, they seem to figure out their shit pretty quickly.

@lotus956

2 ай бұрын

We talking about ecoboost reliability?

@jza80king

2 ай бұрын

@@lotus956 I'm talking about Toyota. I don't think it is fair to use Ford's history of unreliability with the ecoboost and assume Toyota will have the same issues.

@zelenizub2036

2 ай бұрын

282 cubic inch = 4621.15 cc, which means we are getting V8 4Runner.🤤 Do not wake me up 😴

I'm going to ny auto show tomorrow. This is great news

Looking good so far, just don’t fork up the front! Yeah, that badge in the back is coming off.

It's basically going to be a suv version of Tacoma, just like the Sequoia is to the Tundra. If there's a Trailhunter 4runner, then the 4runner TRD Pro could be a Bronco Raptor competitor.

@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY-wr1yd

2 ай бұрын

You are right

@thrash123ful

2 ай бұрын

Pretty much.

@superkill30

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha a bronco badlands maybe Toyota does not a have a raptor like vehicle it would be cool tho 4 runner baja

@mikelaughlin270

2 ай бұрын

There is no comparison between a Ford and a Toyota. ALL Ford products are absolute garbage with planned obsolescence and recalls galore built into each and every vehicle. Some of the (C)Raptor variants look kind of cool, but at the end of the day they are still a Ford rubbish heap with a few aftermarket upgrades.

@theeconomist100

2 ай бұрын

Lol the trdpro cant compete with a braptor

I'd give up the rolling rear window if they'd give me the trusty old V-6, normally aspirated. Better yet, the V8 of the early 2000s.

Let's us all pray that Toyota doesn't drag the release out with the teaser pics as long as the Tacoma! That was painful!

Dealerships markups will make pricing differences between the new LC and 4Runner irrelevant.

First Gen 4runner is peak. So beautiful

@mad-meh2719

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully its a throwback to the first Gen.

the MAJOR difference between the landcruiser and the 4runner will be the full time AWD in the LC. the new 4runner should see better MPG with the same engine over the LC.

I think the 4runner badge is too low.

I went to a car show recently and the rep for Toyota said that the new generation 4Runner will have the roll down back window. He said it with absolute certainty. Hope he’s right!

@SLHJR0390

2 ай бұрын

The Toyota Engineer on KZread said that its going away, specifically because exhaust gets sucked back into the cabin. Toyota is going to move away from the design.

@BillyBob-im7og

2 ай бұрын

@@SLHJR0390 that would suck if they actually did it the only cool things about those

@SLHJR0390

2 ай бұрын

I actually think thats the very reason the Badging/Lettering is so far down the rear end, its opening from the very bottom, and the badging draws your eye to the edge of the opening hatch. You'll notice that hatch goes in rather than maintaining a decent profile out, which tells us the window isnt rolling down into that slimmer profile. @@BillyBob-im7og

@funkykkdog

Ай бұрын

@@SLHJR0390 Toyota just revealed the rear roll down window for the new gen 4Runner!

@SLHJR0390

Ай бұрын

@@funkykkdog oh snap!

🤷‍♂ what if anything did we learn here? It has a spare tire, says 4 Runner still has blue paint and a hitch. Breaking news?

@atg1338

2 ай бұрын

It's called tease ,..DUH

@michaeljohn1848

2 ай бұрын

Lesson, we don’t comment without comprehension.

@TheJeez

2 ай бұрын

It will also be hyburdized and overpriced

Yes, the manual transmission is going to be available in the new 4RUNNER

I’m looking for the photo of the thumbnail in the video.

I waiting for the FJ cruiser 😅

TFL and Company, I could use some real world 4runner advice. My fam is considering nabbing one of these final 5th gens. Narrowed it down to the Offroad Premium, Offroad Premium with KDSS, or the TRDPro. Resale value is meaningful, though we do keep vehicles for the long term. Mostly on-road and light trail performance prioritized. No major offroading or modification intended at this time (perhaps mods in future), but we like to have serious get-out-of-a-jam capability just in case. How would you rate these three options?

That picture makes sense.

Maybe its blocked, but I dont see any exhaust pipes.

They will definitely go with the modern classic design just like the landcruiser, I also have a feeling they gonna bring back the tailgate. A hatch door with tailgate feature.

There is nothing exciting about what they are doing to the 4runner except for potentially offering a 6-speed manual.

@samesparza2149

2 ай бұрын

Well that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

@ericvolkman1490

2 ай бұрын

@@samesparza2149brontoqb1 is a real reactionary

@Expressionistix

2 ай бұрын

Toyota and excitement are not two words I’d put together. Not in this age of designing vehicles based solely on fuel economy as the first challenge.

Will there be a 7 seater version

88 v6 silver, man I miss that. I'd love to see a redo of gen1 with a removable top!

Oh a 4runner with removable top would sell like 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I have never owned a 4runner or any sport utility vehicle as I currently live in an apartment complex with height restrictions in the under ground garage 😮

@db3837

2 ай бұрын

I live in a Semi-Detached house in Ottawa and I can only fit a car in my garage. Then I have to get out of my car like how the Duke boys got out of the General Lee. LOL

I am curious on expected tow rating. I hope it matches or exceeds Land Cruiser.

A topless 4Runner would be a dream come true

The GX550 press photos had the same tag.

Silly me rushed into replacing my ‘07 in 2018 because I was expecting the replacement model back then and wanted to avoid any new tech. Obviously I could have waited awhile longer lol.

I think Toyota will continue offering three rows of seating in the 4Runner given that the Land Cruiser 250 is strictly a five-seater.

@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY-wr1yd

2 ай бұрын

You are right .

@brettv576

2 ай бұрын

I hope you are right. Hope they offer it in the TRD Offroad model

@993mike

2 ай бұрын

Still a shame that a V-6 option won’t be coming I’m guessing. Toyota 4 cylinders are OK, but all of the Lexus / Toyota 4’s I’ve driven recently are pretty crude sounding and not very refined.

I thought BMW and MB were pushing it with 7 and 8 SUVs respectively, and here comes Toyota with 9 (and that's not counting the hybrids separate nor includes the upcoming Crown SUV).

The new Tacoma power train might be a good starting point to drop in the new 4Runner. Then they should have the option of a more powerful ICE in the 4Runner as well. Not necessarily making it a race car,but stronger for steep hills with loads and slightly higher speed limits on the interstate.

Chrome are they high?

Damn if the 24 model is 65k man 2025 will be 80k

LC is not "based on a Tacoma" lol. They just share a platform Look forward to seeing you guys torture test one😊

Who didn’t think it was going to have the styling of the LC/GX?

A 2wd base model with come in at MRSP of $46k. Upper trim levels will be $56-60k easily and that's MSRP 🤔

Hopefully it’ll be made in Japan🤞

@hankgs

2 ай бұрын

NOPE.

Can't wait for the new gen to drop so I can scoop up a current gen for a discount once a flood of them hit the market as trade-ins. Same thing happened with the tacoma. My 3rd gen taco had been holding steady in value until the 4th gen finally dropped and now the value of my truck has finally gone down.

@leechburglights

2 ай бұрын

Plenty of current owners will be doing the upgrade. Don't worry over 1.2 million of them sold, you won't miss your chance to get one anytime soon.

Toyota already did a 40th anniversary 4Runner. I hope they put Toyota back on the black tailgate handle like it’s been for generations.

282’nd day of this year

@paul_t_kendall

2 ай бұрын

Maybe

They had the opportunity to make it look so much cooler. I wish it looked more aggressive

Will it have door rattles?

I really hope it’s a total upgrade but keeps the same ruggedness and reliably that they are known for and everybody has to have it. Then maybe the price will come down on the current ones and I can get a good deal!

Still body on frame! Nice!

But will it be manufactured in Japan?

I think it will be more like the Lexus GX not the land cruiser

I’m really interested to see if they make a Trailhunter trim on the 4Runner.

Going to be a crowded showroom and a somewhat mind boggling shopping experience. The Land Cruiser is just a bit too close to the new 4Runner, especially when you get into the TRD off road and Pro models. Then all the various engine and drivetrain options. It’s an amazing time to into 4WD, especially if you like Toyota. I owned the original model with a manual transmission, not for very long but it left me fond memories. It would be really sweet if Toyota offered a manual with the new platform. Great content as usual guys! 👍

Imagine its still a 5th gen with new bumpers and emblems 😂

Oh good. It looks like you still have to get on all fours to plug your trailer in. 🤔🤣

When are they going to release?😊

If you take a look at the upcoming next gen Fortuner in Japan I'm guessing it will be very similar in functional design as the 6th gen 4 Runner. It would make business sense for Toyota that the 6th gen 4 Runner and the next gen Fortuner that we don't get in the U.S. will have a lot in common.

I LOVE TOYOTA, I LOVE AC/DC!

It would be nice if they make PHEV version of it.

Woah, woah, hol' up! Go back and talk more about that CD for 1-year at 12% interest, please. 2:19

Spare tire in the dirt says most of what you need to know. Tires belong on the back

A removable top 4Runner would be awesome, Bring it back Toyota!!!!!!

Will it be made in Japan?

@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY-wr1yd

2 ай бұрын

Yes

The starting price will be $42-45K

Nathan is talking crazy about that spare tire placement...

The Land Cruiser has Full Time 4 Wheel Drive and the 4-Runner is Part Time 4 Wheel Drive.

Did they forget the tow hooks like they did the tundra? 😂😂

LUS 282 = LAUNCH UNIT START (DATE) OCTOBER 9TH (292) day of the year!

There are no "rumors", just people making up stuff and pretending is is a "rumor ". Rumors of the next 4runner have been wrong for over 10 years now.

The 2024 4Runner LTD has 3 rows as an option

Save your money it’s going to be expensive. 54k base model sr5

My theory is 4Runner will be more expensive than current generation so pricing starting from 45k.

One thing we do know with toyotas current pricing strategy....it will be expensive, more than it should be