TDX is a great TD game, the problem is, it involves too much grinding for the newer players

@Normal57981

4 ай бұрын

Ye

@Goldentophat999

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636says the kid who tells to stop saying that

@muhammadzarafateh1911

4 ай бұрын

13k for jugg is crazy

@muhammadzarafateh1911

4 ай бұрын

2.500 for accel is... maybe too grindy

@seasidedisease6053

4 ай бұрын

@@Goldentophat999 Don't respond. He's trying to rage-bait. Don't give him any attention.

I feel like TD games should always have good replayability, simply adding something like an endless/pvp mode or daily quests instantly makes the game alot more fun to play and grind and players will stay on the game longer and rejoin more frequently.

@freeman3967

4 ай бұрын

Dayum infinity mode is actually kinda cool

@freeman3967

4 ай бұрын

They should also make a version with 10 players team

@sahidabutazil8892

4 ай бұрын

Bro replayability doesnt mean skill issue it means you can play the game without getting bored​@@CuteFish636

@malvinaverageguy182

4 ай бұрын

@@sahidabutazil8892 he is a rage baiter that was rage baited by others don't become a rage baiter

@malvinaverageguy182

4 ай бұрын

also if you want players to stay on ur game. make it grindy but not too grindy otherwise will go bye bye. but also has to be a bit grindy otherwise if there the grind is easy and takes only a little time. then ppl will be bored and leave the game

TDX is warding off new players via game padding. Many commenters here don't seem to know what that is,so I'll explain: Basically,game padding is any feature or update that is designed to make the game artificially longer (e.g making requirements harder,removing or nerfing efficient grinring strategies.) by making it harder without actually adding anything of substance. John has done just that with this most recent update and this has even impacted more advanced players like myself. It's inevitable that a developer is going to have to use game padding (especially with a new game) but John is doing this excessively. (Aside from this,him adding gambling when he said he wouldn't just hurts me so much and it's a big reason why some of my friends refuse to engage with the game.)

@Tench_gaming

4 ай бұрын

Fr

@drysoda4741

4 ай бұрын

Only in TDX

@Urakite

4 ай бұрын

The gambling problem is not really a problem since it's literally just skins you can unlock.

@Chaos_knight553

4 ай бұрын

@@UrakiteIt’s less of a a problem, but it still is

@SlimeKing22

4 ай бұрын

There adding gold crates too so now if you want to have the best towers your going to have to do even more grinding and gambling

I think tdx requires a lot of grinding for new players and when they just want to invest this game they need to invest a few hours to get slightly decent towers like operator and missile trooper while after you play molten mode in tds you can get soldier and demoman

@Tophat654

4 ай бұрын

aint no way bro is calling operator and missile trooper slightly decent ☠️☠️☠️☠️

@Crcw.

4 ай бұрын

the start in tdx is really grindy and might be boring after a few games already thats why

@MoosterTakes157

4 ай бұрын

Exactly, He literally nerfed elite mode from what i saw if i saw correctly. The grind is insane

@akroshechkaa

4 ай бұрын

I agree ,most of thungs is tdx needs grinding , the most boring thing in games. Tdx is good and was fun but for like 2 weeks.

@skyssleepy

4 ай бұрын

its just that everyone is already use to TDS and TDX tries to be TDS 2.0

Grinding in this game is especially hard because every grind strat is either nerfed by John or it needs the tower that your grinding for whichs just absurd how John could basically nerf every grinding strat and the community will just be like "ahaha look at John back at it again" absolutely absurd

@BRUH-zj9gb

4 ай бұрын

yeah john even added gambling when he said he wont

@thekillerguy1144

4 ай бұрын

​@@BRUH-zj9gband the gambling gives u useless copies, basicly wasting ur money

@Urakite

4 ай бұрын

​@@BRUH-zj9gbIt's just skins though, Doesn't matter if you have one or not.

@BRUH-zj9gb

4 ай бұрын

@@Urakite i know, but he litteraly lied, he proceeded to say that he hates gambling but he bringed it to his game

@poo48

4 ай бұрын

It's like john doesn't want us to have fun anymore

The problem is that John just shuts down any relatively easy way to grind. He made ancient sky islands and oil rig simple difficulty and removed cow annoyance, and the awards just aren’t great and it’s really hard to grind levels unless you grind deserted island which is level 35+

@markymark9801

4 ай бұрын

very true, john also doesn’t implement any new content that are specifically for new/intermediate players. Everything new for the past month has been locked behind intense grinding and high level requirements.

@TheGoldenBotz

4 ай бұрын

@@Spider8621 bro did not have a good day and spams the same comments to over 100+ comments...💀

@cmnog2167

4 ай бұрын

Not going to lie but I like that. The money reward should be more though. If the game is harder, equals more strategy. More strategy, equals more fun. It makes the victory part way more fulfilling rather than TDS' braindead molten grind.

@teodortugui6080

4 ай бұрын

And + is the map is like very hard

@robloxplayer0177

4 ай бұрын

That the reason why players quit lol​@@cmnog2167

I agree with the reasons. TDX lacks what TDS grants,Something to grind for,Every Event TDS had in the past was pretty popular,If TDX did an event(Would prob take some time) It would most likely spike in popularity

@bt7777

4 ай бұрын

Thing is, they already did(Christmas event) however the reason why it’s still not as high as tds is probably because how easy the event was(yes Ik there’s nightmare mode but I’ll get to that later) while both Christmas events were really easy, tds simply had a higher player count mainly because after beating the event you still need to play it multiple times to complete the Christmas quest whereas tdx Christmas event only required you to beat the event 6 times to get the skins and cryo ranger as I’m pretty sure only 1 time for nightmare mode to get the artillery skin so overall you just needed to win the event 7 times for tdx while there was more grinding for the quest for tds

@GabrielLimXianYaoAcis

4 ай бұрын

they just did

@bt7777

4 ай бұрын

@@GabrielLimXianYaoAcisye that’s what I’m saying

@seasidedisease6053

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 Imagine trying to rage- bait.

@AbyssalStriike

4 ай бұрын

​@BrazilAlt who sent hate comments to you? Your so pathetic you had to switch to an alt to rage bait more

Being a new player in tdx was hell. Whenever I join a public match they would immediately leave as soon as they see me place down Shotgunner or Ranger. Luckily I motivated myself and managed to grind myself up to level 72, and the reason was simply out of spite for the level 25s that kept leaving me.

@sahidabutazil8892

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636 skill issue kid

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 skill issue

@justaguy4575

4 ай бұрын

great job guys, you fell for the trolls trap, you gave him exactly what he wants, and you filled him to do more!

@randomnobody8713

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636kys

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@justaguy4575 ok😀😃😄😁😆🤩🙂👍👍👍😌

Finally an open-minded content creator explained everything about how tdx will actually goes on...

@thestealthyartist6248

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 the heck does this have to do with a skill issue

@astraljava8500

4 ай бұрын

Oh hello "player perspective" Guy Tdx is losing playercount yes but it's probably not gonna die anytime soon

@Justanbrazilian

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636tell me how bro

@Th3realevil

4 ай бұрын

Legit annoying holy crap

@ARandomRobloxianGamer

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636you have a skill issue

The problem with TDX is that there has only been updates made for high level players. Railgunner, nightmare xmas, warship, all made for high level players. If you are a new player, the only thing you can do is grind for new towers.

@kingboss3146

4 ай бұрын

They really exagerrated on xmas nightmare u need artillery juggernaut laser railgunner and more but think it the xmas was made to beat it 6 times so it should be easy because if it was hard it would be hell to beat it 6 times

I think the problem is the updates currently. The winter update is great, but just not replay-able enough. Your supposed to be keep playing and trying throughout a while, but the event seems to be quite too easy, that even if your a complete newbie you can win by getting good teammates. Then eventually you would stop playing the event once you beat it. I think the play count problem is gonna be solved when there are more updates released and makes the game way better. Hope there is a bright future for TDX!

@goncaloribeiro8699

4 ай бұрын

Did you do the nightmare version of the event? Its not easy at all

@mythicalvoid

4 ай бұрын

They added nightmare they wanted to release it at the same time as easy but they made the event in 1 week. So they could definitely make a much better event given more time

@ello_ammichelle2743

4 ай бұрын

@@goncaloribeiro8699 but the rewards aren’t good enough, it’s just a skin and it doesn’t give enough motivation to do it

@Tench_gaming

4 ай бұрын

paragrah warning! Tldr: bloons has really good progression in towers and gamemodes, and solid grinding. Bloons is good bc it has like 5000 different gamemodes, ranging from easy (easy mode) to extreme sweat (ranked elite bosses) and you can also play community maps and challenges, as well as do most of the modes in co op. Those add replay ability, bc there are many semi limited modes too Bloons is both easy and hard You also can get towers quite easily, while still unlocking a couple overtime (heros, paragons, beast handler, dartling)

@SovietComrade6675

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636pls stop going to comments saying a skill issue

It was fun at the beginning until I realized how hard it was to grind for towers. It has its creativity but there should have been easy-going features especially for beginners. Also you can really tell that most players of TDX are probably from TDS and TB

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

It wasn't really that hard for me I even kind of enjoy grinding. Dare I have fun in a video game? also tds gold crates need like 25 hours or grinding for

@samiburbano8413

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636 yo mama

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 skill issue

@jonathantoreno5181

4 ай бұрын

@@user-tl4ym5eh1d go play mmorpgs then if you love grinding

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@jonathantoreno5181 mmorpgs suck

The thing with TDX, is that it’s hella grindy. To get juggernaut, you need ~13,000 gold to get it. And keep in mind, you get less than 500 gold in an intermediate match. To make things even worse, juggernaut might be outright useless in nightmare mode, considering it struggles in expert. So not only do I & many players have to grind for something hella expensive, there’s no guarantee it’ll be good for long.

@cirkin1932

4 ай бұрын

Bro the new update genuinely made this game 10x worse 😢

@Thehalfbrainedbean

4 ай бұрын

Ikr and they release the warship in a time where people are going to school 💀 I know tho its not john fault

@Gab12345BR

4 ай бұрын

​@@Thehalfbrainedbeanwho goes to school in January?

@Thehalfbrainedbean

4 ай бұрын

@@Gab12345BR Europeans

@zaeemchogle8219

4 ай бұрын

@@Gab12345BR alot of people

I think that tdx issue is what u said but also bad release times of updates because when new updates came out fridays or saturdays they did so much better. Like christmas update was late, the new warship update was also late and posted at not best time so the hype cant spread the right way imo

@boravarayakushevich2740

4 ай бұрын

Portuguese colony ​@@CuteFish636

@malvinaverageguy182

4 ай бұрын

@@boravarayakushevich2740 bud woke up outta bed and chose to be edgy

@Tench_gaming

4 ай бұрын

First time ive seen some verifed creator not get swarmed lol

@SovietComrade6675

4 ай бұрын

dang hi and im sorry about the fact the first comment is a 6 year old spamming skill issue in the comments

@Tench_gaming

4 ай бұрын

True

There's one thing that's really unique that some games do really well but more tower defense games do not that well in and if tdx can do it they may stand a chance of beating tds in playercount Endless Mode

@Tench_gaming

4 ай бұрын

paragrah warning! Tldr: bloons has really good progression in towers and gamemodes, and solid grinding. Bloons is good bc it has like 5000 different gamemodes, ranging from easy (easy mode) to extreme sweat (ranked elite bosses) and you can also play community maps and challenges, as well as do most of the modes in co op. Those add replay ability, bc there are many semi limited modes too Bloons is both easy and hard Bloons also has the freeplay endless mode which is great You also can get towers quite easily, while still unlocking a couple overtime (heros, paragons, beast handler, dartling)

@SovietComrade6675

4 ай бұрын

⁠bruh

Another problem with tdx is that the players are toxic to new players, my teammate who didn’t upgrade barracks to m203 trooper to counter super heavy zombie made us lose and blamed me instead of herself

@alectopot719

4 ай бұрын

Pls report her: Stalinsbutt

@chadchad2144

4 ай бұрын

Im sorry to hear that, you deserve better

@alectopot719

4 ай бұрын

btw i had no explosive towers like what am i supposed to do?

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

What about tds players when they fricking raided mini toon for winning

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

my guy, toxic player is in every game. so ofc you gonna in counter a wild toxic player

The problem with a lot of TD games is that they get boring very fast and just get super grindy, and there always needs to be something new or interesting to keep the player playing. This is why Bloons Tower Defense is so successful and why there are people who are willing to do the most outrageous shit, because there is always something new/interesting. The problem in TDX is not that its a bad game, its the same reason why i stopped playing TDS, too much grinding with little interesting new stuff. However once again, this isnt me saying both games suck, this is me just saying that in the future TD games should focus more on having lots of interesting content rather than gambling, and updates that change very little.

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

oh man, this gonna be interested if you say it on Twitter.

The only problem is that it doesn't appeal to the majority of roblox players, tds is a casual experience when you just play the basic modes. There is the hc and golden towers specifically for the experienced players to keep them hooked and give them a reason to grind the game but other than that it's a casual game all throughout

@gladisjoseph6646

4 ай бұрын

attention seeker

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

Fair enough

Really what TDX is lacking rn is endgame content. Pretty sure John said they’re working on it, but rn it’s just grind a bit, have fun, beat Expert, have very fun, grind for all the towers, have a lot less fun, and then there’s nothing left to do but skins, which is just grinding. An event that requires grinding on top of that. What we’re lacking is really just harder, more interesting difficulties. Beating Expert is by far my best experience with TDX, and if they can start replicating that feeling with future gamemodes that would help the game in my opinion.

@SSuser-go7jm

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 How is this skill related? I’m literally too skilled, I have beaten everything in the game and have no fun gameplay left until they add new content.

@SSuser-go7jm

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 In which way?

@iglesianifuhuaw4228

4 ай бұрын

He's a baiter​@@SSuser-go7jm

@Justanbrazilian

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636nah you have a skill issue with none stoping saying 2 words

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

​@@Justanbrazilianskill issue

One reason is because the new update does not appeal to many new players adding the hardest mode and warship which takes a while along with tds dropping the best update they have had all year

@Chaos_knight553

4 ай бұрын

weren’t there 2 actual updates in tds in 2023? the other one being a completely failed event?

@Aguzt1n456

4 ай бұрын

@@Chaos_knight553 Lunar overture wasn't that bad, act 1 and 2 were very decent, skins was very good too and the tower is op. Act 3 just ruined everything that lunar overture did good.

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

​@@Chaos_knight553lunar overturee is not failed. Act 1-2 narrator is telling us the tales of solar eclipse event. While act 3 the narrator has gone insane.. probably because we're defending the god-cube

I personally think tds has the edge over tdx through their difficulty catering The majority of content in tds is mostly for beginners to mid-game players with enough content for the few definite minority of endgame players Meanwhile in tdx HALF of the current gamemodes require you to be high-level if you want to have a decent chance of beating them Tower variety would also help tdx alot with there only being like 4 gimmick towers which makes me sad since im not a meta slave

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

tdx was mainly made for long time tower defense fans who got bored of other games like tds being too easy imo

@dayangonzalez857

4 ай бұрын

you can legit beat elite with sniper a very beginner friendly tower, even Expert mode can be beaten with sniper tdx is beginner friendly its just you have to be not retarded

@CarterLam1014

4 ай бұрын

There is literally no meta in tdx, john himself said and also the game currently shows that there is literally 5 different win cons and ways to beat expert: jugg, rail, mine, warship, john. You literally cannot complain about them being expensive because John and mine layer literally aren't. Also you can beat expert by just using snipers and mine layers if you play well enough. Plus they are still trying to add more towers, its still in beta. Tds is more more of a meta slave, everything is just Accelerator, accelerator, accelerator and you can win, it doesn't even take skill to use it and they are still not NERFING it because people will complain haha, if they buff other towers instead of nerfing accelerator, its just going to worsen power creep if it isn't already prominent enough.

@sleet22

4 ай бұрын

Tdx has meta tho???

@CarterLam1014

4 ай бұрын

@@sleet22 for now yes but in the long run there will be none, the amount of win condition that tdx is 4 which already almost the same compared to tds's 5, but in tds there isn't a real reason to not use accelerator. Accelerator's useage rates as polled and collected by tom suggested that it has the highest useage rate in all modes and none other win conditions have even come close to the level accelerator has, tdx is very balanced that each of the win condition has their own niche and is actually balanced(not sure about warship yet, haven't tested or studied enough of it to give a good opinion), like mine layer being cheap and affordable by newer players, jugg being a good all rounder, rail being the most reliable and consistent at killing the boss, warship is expensive and only useable in certain maps but can do everything good. In tds, accelerator does the most dps at their placement limit and is the most versatile, offering hidden detect very early on with decent range, very good cost efficiency and decent against hoards, it doesn't really have a true weakness either, only having to charge up, cooldown and the lock on, the charging and cooling doesn't really make an impact to it especially in max level, the devs have buffed his early levels too much so its not really a huge weakness anymore, the lock on is only bad when they locked on the boss and some enemies got pass, but other than that they should kill the other enemies so fast anyways where they basically mitigated it. engineer is not far off but just because she doesn't take much advantage from commander and dj immediately makes her a less valuable pick even if she can do early(actually if you are level 380 in solo fallen you can just place an accelerator at wave 8 with proper farming lmao)mini and gmini requires you to spam them in order to work which is really restricted on maps with layouts that don't allow for concentrated spams especially smaller ones, plus they have a harder time taking down enemies with high defence values as they lose quite a lot of damage due to tds not supporting decimal damage values(tdx does so thats nice), pursuit although having built in stun immunity does not having hidden detect and has a targeting system which makes it sometimes annoying and inconsistent to use especially when they are targeting enemies behind the boss and never moves up to retarget it. Ranger simply takes too long to fire at max level, it really struggles against hoards as the splash only hits 3 enemies max and it doesn't even do that high damage, the placement limit also quite hinders them, they do have stun immunity and the largest range already at base level but its expensive cost really hinders its use, especially when its the least cost effective in all the win conditions. Tds needs to nerf accelerator, but theu just keep refusing or never do it even when the balancers themselves know that it is overpowered. The way tdx has 2 paths justify the weakness of the other path such as jug having way more range on one path if you think that the other path has too little range, rail shooting too slow but the other path has a way better firerate for high hp hoards, john having crowd control and instant high damage on one path while the other is mote single dps and supporting based, warship has one path for more single target with hidden detect and the other for more crowd control, although mine layer's top path doesn't really have a use other than for hidden detect, its cheap coin cost is the main reason you would use it as a win condition.

TDX is in a strange spot where the recent updates were more focused on the high level players, which is obviously bad for newer players or even intermediate level players. The barracks update was good for example because it gave something for all level players. The recent updates that added towers like warship or rail-gunner are great but just a bit too grindy for a majority of the player base to get. In a short time frame. The next update will probably be nightmare mode which just continues the problem. They need to find something that will be helpful to keep newer and experienced players invested in the game for them to keep playing it.

@gladisjoseph6646

4 ай бұрын

i mean the christmas event was easy because the game was released recently so i guess that counts as an update for all lvl players

@dummlott

4 ай бұрын

thats true@@gladisjoseph6646

@gameringdudeguy1126

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636your dad left, skull issue

@zbritishteaman

4 ай бұрын

john basically adds stuff that takes a ton of grinding to get and then kills every good method of actually grinding those things he's clearly very shit at running a game, hopefully he can actually do an acceptable job soon

@dummlott

4 ай бұрын

I agree, most of the good grinding methods are gone, the only usable ones are on the impossible map@@zbritishteaman

I had the idea of a tower defense mode that is like a Roguelike, let me explain, so you start it with ranger, and you start on easy mode, but then... every ten waves you get to select and upgrade or power up, like a global encore, an A-10 strike, call in the AC-130, or bonus cash. but then every boss you beat you get to pick a new tower, but its random and the next mode will have a special perm modifier that you choose, and based of the difficulty of the modifier, it gives more rewards. this is prob not perfect but I believe that it could be amazing.

TDX is a great game, but what I think John and the devs need to do is to make grinding much easier to get the towers you need, so you can beat the modes and keep playing the game. just about couple weeks in after release, i started to lose more interest because the grind was extremely too much causing me to immediately give up. whenever im doing easy or intermediate mode, there are times where i feel like i want to leave the game since the gameplay is very slow-paced, which is something that discourages new players like me. also, none of the recent updates they've released didn't feature any changes that helped improved the grinding for newer players. the recent updates have always been catered to higher rank players like the addition of the new warship and railgunner towers, which I'm not willing to grind for.

@darcitox6621

4 ай бұрын

I agree with u, I just got like missile and operator and I just quit playing that. FOR ME its a time waste

@qoobied

4 ай бұрын

I got railgunner. I’ve had to dump nearly 50 hours of total time to get the majority of towers (INCLUDING times when cow annoyance barracks and sniper nest elite was a prominent strategy) but now it feels way too slow. I bought 1.5x for a reason but it isn’t satisfying to really play the game. I could play tds without 1.5x and finish it in the same time and feel satisfied in the end. The railgunner tower is cool and all but it really only having a niche purpose, like warship, doesn’t feel like a great tower to own. And the insane gacha cosmetic gimmick is really annoying considering i haven’t played any other game which essentially hard locks skins behind a randomizer. At least TDS guarantees the whole set of skins when you open enough crates.

@darcitox6621

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 get tf out of here lil bro

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

​@@qoobiedand tds is actually kind enough to not give you dupe

john when he realises maybe he shouldn't have nerfed every grinding strat possible

@user-nh6hn3ut9k

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 do u know how much intermediate games u have to do to get artilerry

@user-nh6hn3ut9k

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 i was too late to try the strat and he just nerfed it too

@TheBESTRamenOfAllTime

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636that got nerfed

@kickback1874

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 lil bro still lives in last month

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 rare footage of Brazil not being a nuisance to every reply section

The main reason for its descent is that when starting out, it is very difficult to get new towers, because the coins they give you in easy mode are very few, compared to the prices of other things, the fact of passing several times on easy gets boring, to have something decent (Main reason for the coins, lack of cheap towers or for beginners)

@farfabugs

4 ай бұрын

Fr fr skill issue you can beat easy mode with the ranger in a Hard map 😊

@alexanderjamestenerife1098

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 Bro show proof of him being suck at the game? saying skill issue to the comment just doesnt mean they are bad they are just better than you

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636 then you are scared because you don't even show it

@Isai_g0d

4 ай бұрын

Bro, im not a real player of TDX but 200 coins per win of easy its the main problem, and im averege on Tds

If I had remembered correctly, TDX was an passion project in the first place, even before release. And plus it had been out for few months now, so it's still somewhat new.

@Tench_gaming

4 ай бұрын

I thought tds was the small project, not tdx. Plus why would you need to hype your passion project that much?

@stickmanmad1

4 ай бұрын

tdx is not a passion project lmao

@PumpkinGamer303

4 ай бұрын

tds was in fact a small project at the start but I dont know if I remembered correctly about TDX being a passion project. And also, I dont know, maybe some team want a cool trailer.@@Tench_gaming

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

Bro you might need to take dementia pills cause ain't in no way tdx a passion project. 💀💀

Most of the players had reached the burnout stage where it got boring

TDX was a very awaited game, obiviously on the first time everyone wanted to play it, even people that don't like tower defense games. So of course first time it had a lot of players and its pretty good for now to stay on the count it is right now, its not dying.

@alphatangobeta6182

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636why did you say skill issue? Did you even read the comment?

@dragonboyfire5926

4 ай бұрын

​@BrazilAlt why are you everywhere " skill issue"

@EYes-xs9kp

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636spam skill issue more,I love it

@malvinaverageguy182

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 bro if the people that never stopped to spam skill issue just leave them alone and shout about nothing. If you take that anger onto us then it will start the loop

@Exzequiel1203

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636skill issue moment

the main problem IMO is the massive dificulty spike after getting laser gunner. you need to save up a ridiculous amount for juggernaut. or railgunner. and if you dont do strategies or get carried by friends. your not winning elite or expert. making you hardstuck on intermediate for a whole 13k. which is around 26 intermediate games.

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

wdym elite doesn't need you to get that good towers. Just get some random and place piercing/aoe towers like patrol boat or barracks. Plating with other people isn't a bad thing it's just part of the game

@D_egi

4 ай бұрын

sniper trolls bro. only need sniper to do elite grind

If you don’t mind me, asking, how was the two path system complicated you just memorize what each path has to offer and essentially like two towers in one maybe you want top path maybe you want bottom path that’s not complicated. How is this complicated?

Fr even I stopped playing TDX for like 2 weeks😢

It took me over 5 months to get to lvl 80 in tds because of school But tdx only took 6-7 weeks cause tdx gives more xp

@Ukennyai

3 ай бұрын

And you need more exp to lvl up in tdx, I'm lvl300 in tds and I need 700+ exp to lvl up to the next lvl, but in tdx you need a couple thousand exp to get from lvl0 to lvl1

I don’t think that the reason why it died fast is because of how repetitive the style is but more of how you progress through the game. The hardest stage of the game is probably the beginning since grinding is extremely hard. I really try to grind this game but I get bored extremely quickly. It won’t be long before it dies even more and the remaining players will be only the ones who are already advanced a lot in the game which is the only fun part about it.

with tdx, its like a game i will just come back to for the updates because the grinding is a bit overwhelming. i myself am a busy person so i dont get time to really grind to get good

one thing is also I enjoy playing TDS for the nostalgia, in 2020 me and my friends used to play and I still like tds for that but also it’s easier to unlock towers whereas in TDX as a new player it takes along time to get the starter towers

i'm quite divisive on your video yes, the dificulty and gameplay changes are significant, especially on expert with some enemies being the absolute worst if not properly dealth, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun with it (though i honestly can't blame anyone for not playing expert or the new christmas nightmare mode, they're thoroughly unenjoyable) the main gap and difference in my opinion, is the content and fun scale, i know that tds has been here way longer and that tdx just released, but the thing is with tds, it grew rapidly because of it's constant stream of newer content, and whilst it's early days are really overrated in my opinion, it was still seen as the superior compared to tower battles, it was clearly deemed funner to an extent because of the fact it had brand new fresh things tdx on the other hand, doesn't they take away some fun and useful aspects of each tower, wether it be nerfing the placement limit, buffing a boss or enemy so that the game feels more like the military instead of an actual tower defense game in terms of dificulty, making it the only tower defense game that has the absolute WORST beginner friendlyness i've ever seen in terms of everything, with the only safety pad being small achievements that give money along with a couple of codes, it's way less enjoyable because it's all about the endless grind to get another tower to move onto the other things than having fun, and also no, i don't think the newer gameplay changes are dificult to learn, especially when one of those main features was done before, what i do agree is with what you said about it basically being just a rehearsal of previous tower defense games with like, two new features compared to the rest combined, made worse with how HARD john tried to ram in the message "only in tdx" which like i don't mind having repeated features from other games, but if you're gonna have a game advertise itself as something you've never played before while having all of these repeated things, you better give me something that isn't just dificulty to make up for originality point is, there was alot more you could've said and/or pointed out, the reason tdx is slowly falling off is because of what you've said that you haven't realized yet, The Originality, of it lots of people in tds said that it was just a generic tower defense game at it's core, with barely anything to break a mold, tds was basically the start of fresh new tower defense content, tdx will always be just another page in an endless book that's about it, cya

@bonbon7997

4 ай бұрын

☠️bro wrote a whole essay

@goose2eyes

4 ай бұрын

@@bonbon7997☠️bro dont have the attention span to read allat

@rubberduckyducky2336

4 ай бұрын

@@bonbon7997 no regrets

Classic TDX moment

One problem with tdx is that it’s already so modern unlike tds which went from extremely simple models to high quality stuff which means tdx has barely any more room to grow

@hibemabygaming4316

4 ай бұрын

I don't really think that could be a problem, TDS and the likes of such were released much earlier in the times of Roblox where standards for models were much lower, nowadays it's a much higher standard to attract more players.

@clintivanorsolino9518

4 ай бұрын

On the contrary, TDX has a lot more room to grow. It is still in beta so there are going to be improvements.

@averageslapbattlesplayer200

4 ай бұрын

​@@clintivanorsolino9518if john keeps nerfing everything it's not gonna improve at all

@clintivanorsolino9518

4 ай бұрын

@@averageslapbattlesplayer200 Well yes, but I think he is just making adjustments so that everything is balanced, after all many players agreed that secret forest shouldn't be a hard map.

@Hamster99232

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636keep talking to yourself lil bro 💀

You should try Zombie Invasion Tower Defense, it has the boss gamemode inspired in the BTD 6 one, it also has heroes, perks and modifiers, it's a really fun game and it's not grindy

@xavi_csyt9919

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 You are the guy that has a skill issue on his brain, I saw you also being like this in other coments and just to let you know, it's not funny

I feel like tdx needs to maybe make it easier to grind. i feel like an economy buff to elite and expert just to make it slightly easier, in my opinion the farming is just too complicated sometimes and that making all gamemodes beatable without farming just feels more natural.

@ramyadalwasif2527

4 ай бұрын

Elite is beateble without farming also ik that makes the game complicated but the main problem is the mqjority of plauer got no brains thats why they quit this game

@JkEcoXD

4 ай бұрын

​@@ramyadalwasif2527I see a lot of comments saying "grinding is so hard." It really isn't that hard. Once you get Op or barracks everything just gets better from there. I think it's hard for them because they haven't learned the maps and how each towers functions and what they're best at. They just wanna no brain everything. That's why barracks got a nerf because people just no brained cow annoyance.

@JkEcoXD

4 ай бұрын

Also farming isn't really that good unless you're going for RG or warship because you can beat all the modes without it. I've been decently challenged trying to come up with strategies that work. Just because I didn't upgrade a tower soon enough or place more down, I've lost games. It's fun because it makes me actually think about what I'm doing. And doing funny strats too like just spamming cryos everywhere. That's where the fun is in these tower defense games.

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

​@@JkEcoXDit totally is good in multi-player unless your not farming very good or going top path for some reason

@sus_noob428

4 ай бұрын

@@JkEcoXD grinding is hard because it's really boring due to the low reward you get

Tdx needs replayability, something challenging I think if they add challenges that requires something like: pass elite mode on a hard map without artillery and laser gunner Or something like: pass expert on a map that you never passes before And actually give some good ammounts of money and also make you play the game more, since you will need to learn to play in diferent ways

@levertigo2665

4 ай бұрын

Beat Intermediate without Operator is a good example

@goldenmini1956

4 ай бұрын

I agree

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

Yeah like btd6 advance Challenges

I feel like Tdx is a repeat of something we’ve already had aswell, but I believe that if they add UNIQUE towers like tbz’s bof, they can get a higher player count because it would be something “only in tdx” one of my ideas I’ve been cooking would be a skill tree, where you can upgrade your player, for example, you can increase starting cash by up to 300, or maybe exp gain, or cash per dmg, with every 5 levels you get one skill point to put on any tree path you would like. That would be super unique and cool imo

@PatrykPer

4 ай бұрын

So basicly btd6 monkey knowledge

@xmlrs9993

4 ай бұрын

@@PatrykPer I don’t play btd6 what’s monkey knowledge

@user-ee3kr8et3x

3 ай бұрын

Search it up it's like some upgrade system that is not for towers​@@xmlrs9993

@Ukennyai

3 ай бұрын

So basically the same skill system like in tds(it's not added yet, but it was teased)

I think John needs to release like 3-5 towers in one update to get some play base back and at a little bit more of a grind, and needs to add more skins beside recolors

No, TDX is NOT dying, let me explain. On release, most games get a certain amount of players, which always starts to smooth out to an average daily player base. It started at 30k, and slowly went to 15k, to now around 7-5k, which is still GREAT! The thing other games do that TDX doesn't is that, 1. Most games revolve around a similar popular theme (Anime, trends, celebrities, etc.). 2. Of COURSE TDX wont keep a certain amount of players, as they come and go, they don't want to play Roblox 24/7. 3. This platform mostly consists of children that want to play the things they love, and most people at a younger age don't have the desire to strategize or think more than they need to. Tower Defense is only a semi-genre, and is not that well known! Even 2K players is a blessing!

I expected this to happen because how many other popular td games before like zombie madness, tower blitz, pgtd, tower galactica, toy soldierz or tds legacy has died. I have some theories about why this happens but if I would be honest tdx is extremely flawed in many things and people don't see them. Tdx had potential to be second great popular td game but it failed because how it was handled which killed game in my eyes. It's posible for it to become big again but john need to care more than money for that. After tdx i honestly think popular td games what aren't tds will either die out or hold to trends to be popular.

A player vs player gamemode would be sick in TDX

If john adds nightmare mode then the game has a chance to come back

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

No but pvp would work

@magictiles34ever3rd

4 ай бұрын

​@@user-ee3kr8et3xthat will make tdx players rage quit from getting bullied but nightmare mode uhmmmm something idk lol

The problem is that the grinding in this game is ridiculously long and boring.Since most of the fun comes from elite or expert mode.The grinding is just you beating inter so easily that it becomes boring after 4 games.Also even if you win the rewards isn't that much.Inter is reasonable but easy,elite,and expert rewards are pretty low for how hard and long it takes.

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

Elite takes just about as long as intermediate. People try to focus on grinding efficiently instead of enjoying the game which is what makes grinding boring to many people I think.

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 skill issue

Spiderman 2099 : "its a canon event"

@skyssleepy

4 ай бұрын

corny.

can we all just appreciate how elite accidentally lost to plague doctor with juggernaut

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 rare footage of Brazil actually saying anything relevant

They keep nerfing stuff, makes it harder to grind

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

nah, it not that much of nerf

My opinion on TDX: Its overhyped when it's released and it took lots of grinding

@HenryTheCringeGuy

4 ай бұрын

I agreed that it's overhyped. It's not bad. it's just eh. aiming tower (artillery) and health tower is neat idea tho

@HenryTheCringeGuy

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636 What a good and sensible argument 😐 Though i can't really be offended because i'm suck at tdx too

Boy I aint getting those 8 levels for WarShip Ive already had a mental breakdown after grinding lv64 to lv90

@wasduhjk53

4 ай бұрын

Ratio bruh​@@CuteFish636

@wasduhjk53

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 ratio again now u cried

@wasduhjk53

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 ratio yet again now you pissed off

@wasduhjk53

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 ratio 🙄

@wasduhjk53

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 ratio 🫣

I think tdx definitely needs better, more creative maps that have more influence on the gameplay... in pvz2, for example, there are dinosaurs that can boost zombies in different ways in the jurrasic marsh area, water in which any plant can be placed on water using a lily pad, plants that can freeze in the frostbite caves area(and plants that warm those frozen plants up), portals in modern day... tdx could take some inspiration from this to make gameplay different from any other td game on Roblox

@hadijahabutazil9132

4 ай бұрын

They already took inspiration from Dr zomboss so they might do that as well

@tremeschinion9420

4 ай бұрын

god damn, that's actually a really interesting idea! though, we gotta really think about what will do what on which map without it being a CIA torture method, or painfully boring

@Grilledcheesegaming998

4 ай бұрын

​@@hadijahabutazil9132where dr zomboss inspiration in tdx

0:50 - 0:54 The same thing happened to a game called Arcane Odyssey. It had like 60k or 80k people playing when it released, now it has below 2k.

I think having achievement based towers could add a lot

@kef1308

4 ай бұрын

Wow never really thought about that

@ert9304

4 ай бұрын

there is the cowboy for beating badlands and the ability to buy warden for pizza party

@DangBao-ic1wf

4 ай бұрын

@@ert9304you only unlock access to buy cowboy when beating badlands lol

Hey Elite do you remember when you were playing on Polluted and Corso said he wouldnt swear since you were recording, and less then 2 minutes later he does 😂

@CornTaki

4 ай бұрын

I remember in the broken placement limit vid 💀

@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWX-ws2kr

4 ай бұрын

I think It was just the Dang word but its still hilarious

For me, it was just that i was just so burnt out from playing tds that i dont have the motivation to grind tdx

@lennymann1382

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 why did u even mention terraria thats a whole game also skull issue💀

Hey elite I was just wondering if u could explain how to go in free cam

the devs of td games got to realise that adding more towers doesnt make the game more replayable, they need to add more game modes or a whole different system to make the game unique in order to keep the flow going

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

i don't think they will add game mode lol

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

Tds just rebalanced easy mode(formerly normal mode), now it has a cool economy system and it's actually winnable by newbies

@mr_commentairy

2 ай бұрын

@@Dr.MordinSolus bc now they really wanted to listen to the community (they still didn't buff paint baller)

Mostly cuz school started. Look at the player count on TDS. Last night, it was 6k and TDX was 5.9k. That doesn’t mean it’s dying, there’s people who have gone back to school or have to work and either got homework or can’t play. The weekends are probably what brings the player count up a bit. This happened when tdx player count was at 8k before Christmas update, and increased to 32k then brought to 10-15k. Then it dropped when school started, which is why it’s so low, not every person is starting to play at the same time, so it’s possible that people are playing, just not at the same time. Also, the game isn’t that Grindy bro. TDS has you to buy 6 golden crates for 6 golden towers for 300,000 coins, while in TDX, you can spend about 100k and get every good tower that is WAY better than TDS towers.

@yoyodlix

4 ай бұрын

Finally, why did it take so long to see someone mention people going back to school?

i dont think they are getting it back lol. i love how john jokes around on tds skin crate system but in the valentines update for tdx there is a chance YOU DONT GET ANYTHING.

I have some ideas to make the tame live longer Invisible mode you cant see the zombies nor the hp basically you cant even tell if the zombies pass by you but only way to tell is if the towers are shooting it Pvp,humvee bowling,mystery mode(it gives random cash,zombies or some debuffs),randomizer,endless and mutation mode(it makes the zombies even more stronger and faster)

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

Call it pvz with the amount of side content that is

@minerdxxd733

4 ай бұрын

oh invisible mode, that's actually a mutation that you can pick in Arena Tower Defense called Blackout

@hadijahali-abutazil8487

4 ай бұрын

dafuq did i do to you?@@CuteFish636

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 skill issue

@hadijahabutazil9132

4 ай бұрын

​​@@CuteFish636 says the kid who insults for no reason

I thought that you wouldn't have to pay to speed up or slow down the game or pause it, and also a big reason is that (in my opinion) some td games have a sandbox mode which I find very fun

@joseph32323

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 you're 8 u cant be chattin

@joseph32323

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636sure mate where'd you find that? go on then, call the police, i dare you. come on, do it. im waiting. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@joseph32323

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 sure go on you 8 year old, how about you keep learning your abc's or whatever you do back then, cant believe you think you're slick, go do your homework mate, come back once you've learned how to argue

I think tdx should make it so if they add a tower that's for pro players they should also add in a tower for newbs to help them progress to be better at the game and the amount of the towers above op is very high for newbs they should make a tower thats in between the price of op and cryo

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

broo we got enough of those noob towers we have like 3 lategame towers and literally almost every expert strategy uses jug or laser

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 skill issue

Yes, its true that tdx is dying but john has said in their discord server that he tok a lil break but now he has insane stuff planned for the game, so he probably has a plan to revive the game again

Very good tower defense game, but the problem players need grind like a day for the best towers(Not the warship) and winning all this goes much boring and I think TDX needs to rebalance their farm tower because of very uncomfortable cash earnings

i say the main thing about tdx is the tower paths really good as both paths have their uses in situations. but i say the main negtive about TDX is really early game grind heavy for even the most basic of towers thats the main turn off for it toward new players is the grind. i can play TDS and grind for a bit and get some decent towers pretty fast while tdx i have to grind for hours for lower towers. tbh i bought my towers since i had extra money ( most of them not all ) but i shouldnt have to do that if the grind was more bareable hell some TDS's you can get the first couble of starter towers after like 3 or 4 games

@KratosSuffering

4 ай бұрын

​@@CuteFish636bro go outside man, do you even have a life? All you do is comment on these and that makes it seem like YOU have a skill issue

@coolchrisable

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 not really a skill issue when you have a limited amount of time to play do to work, bills and other shit. Also saying skill issue when there's a legitimate problem just makes ya look like an idiot

@MrMango-ci9qv

4 ай бұрын

​@@coolchrisableignore this ragebaiter, he's quite literally entered 70% of the comments I've looked into and he's said skill issue in all of them.

@coolchrisable

4 ай бұрын

@@MrMango-ci9qv ah ok so he's just an idiot got cha

@MrMango-ci9qv

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 How exactly can you call me a rage baiter by helping one person out?

I think the game don’t have its own feature.Unlike other td games, I can feel that tdx wants to make a difference by military artillery. However it didn’t use its advantages but to add towers like rail gunner which is completely the same from other towers. Towers like rail gunner should have its own feature like a brand new attack pattern that you choose a direction so the tower only shoot that way and pierce all the enemy etc. Model is a problem,too. They should stylize their model into military.

@hibemabygaming4316

4 ай бұрын

Not very known anymore, but the artillery mechanic was ripped straight from Evolution Evade lol

@ramyadalwasif2527

4 ай бұрын

​@@hibemabygaming4316it was from btd6 evolution evade also copied from btd6

@ramyadalwasif2527

4 ай бұрын

Also the idea you gave is basically dartling monkey from btd6 which aint unique

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

They are adding more gimmicky towers in the future just look at their teasers and discord.

@lawtrafalger2714

4 ай бұрын

@@user-tl4ym5eh1d ye but recent update just give no motivation

Honestly, all that TDX needs to revive is for Devs to release towers between the price of 4k-7k

I think the main reason is because it was the start of school for a big amount of the player base. Not to mention since school is starting, alot of the player base will have other things they need to focus on. I don’t think that tdx is not doing good enough, its mainly because other poeple have to focus on other things

TDX is dying because, there is nothing new except few visual details. Like, this game is fusion of TDS and Tower Blitz, but with higher budget. There is literally nothing new, we will have golden skins, we have battleship witch is just a copy of bliss of finality, DJ, copy of mechabase, copy of pursut, barracks, also skin update, this is just towers with diffrent color. Grind is REALLY boring I just got bored after 5 hours playing this game. This game used to be popular because it was really hyped before relase.

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

i mean like it nothing new bc it still in beta plus last time tdx is hype bc if the Christmas event and pretty much that's it. but tdx is not like tds tower

honestly the game is so grindy, i joined in the first week and then just stopped playing after only a few days after getting bored

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

attention spam really be low on you

@alectopot719

3 ай бұрын

I respect your opinion

@ranger3130

3 ай бұрын

bro i already grinded tds i dont wanna get good at another td game just for it to die soon

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

@@ranger3130 that is true but tds now it has nothing

@Dr.MordinSolus

2 ай бұрын

​@@mr_commentairythe hunt.... New spike factory gut.... Bug fixes.... Reworks.....

i believe, they need more replayability, more daily quests, challenge maps, easier ways to farm gold, because its so difficult for new players to become good at the game unless you already have a friend whos high level. me personally i had to spend a bit of money on robux to get an enjoyable experience out of the game. The christmas event was a good start but again it was too difficult for new players that it almost required having one good player to support the entire game. and most new players arent gonna sit there watching countless youtube tutorials and gameplay guides for "easiest gold farming techniques" or some bs like that because its too difficult to understand and follow them step by step. they need to change the pace at which you aquire things

@mqyst.r6345

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636bro I don’t have an issue? I have every high tier tower other than artillery and warship 😂

i think if they added a inf gamemode with a leaderboard will make the game more interesting. but theres not enough enemies/bosses to make that any fun

If they keep updating weekly or get updates before tds, it could come back

@imachicken.4799

4 ай бұрын

Not really cuz john nerf everything some maps most people know is even oil rig is simple wich makes u less coins and exp

I want tds ot tdx to have a boss like lych or. Vortext like it comes every 20 round becids the first 30 or 40 and have multiple versions so the boss is not only on yhe last wave and new strats be made

@imachicken.4799

4 ай бұрын

Yo u remember me? sorry im everywhere comment u 😂

Very true, I'm lvl 109 in TDS and when I return to TDX it's like i just rebirth and it make me feel much less bored and better

I quit TDX because they nerfed my favorite things too much such as secret forest turn to normal from hard and many more. I have completely quit TDX so that means i will never return. Thank you TDX...

@roseiglesias6383

4 ай бұрын

Womp womp

@mr_commentairy

3 ай бұрын

john buff barracks really hard so don't be sad but ik it sad when secret forest turn into hard to normal bc of one reason. it too easy for it so he change that to normal

tldr: its dying because john is a horrible lead dev

@kcssi4662

4 ай бұрын

he had yts on his team so they can give john some suggestions

Its probably because tds has an event that takes time to do and so they stopped playing tdx to do the tds event

@realestNPC

4 ай бұрын

Tds event was so garbage tho

@sleepykleempus2436

4 ай бұрын

@@realestNPC its still an event that people want to grind because of the emotes and skins tds offered this event

@Anteration

4 ай бұрын

its one of the good events lol@@realestNPC

@lesha32171

4 ай бұрын

​@@realestNPCI don't see any problem with it.

@basskit_

4 ай бұрын

​@@realestNPC not really?

tds just added quests and therefore has an endless replay ability in theory. and because you can get paid crates in weekly quests there's a reason to do it. tdx will give tds some rivalry, tds pretty much wiped out tower battles so it'll be interesting to see who gain more players. essentially mad city vs jailbreak if anyone remembers that

If you combine tdx and tds player count you come to the normal ccu of tds before tdx released. Which means the community split like i and some others predicted, i honestly plan to play tds event and stuff after i unlocked everything in tdx cuz tds is just pain with christmas quests but since i want to complete em i need to play it too u know

Common elite gaslighting

Tdx had a lot of potential to be a new contender for the td genre competition, but John's gullet of greed ultimately caused its demise. Here are a few issues to list: Making the tb skins robux without saying anything, this is not how you do a collab and cause damage to the other side of the collab; Not to mention, he publicly shamed and discredited other td games for his own personal gain. (which is incredibly pathetic and i personally think he did this to make tb look bad as hes done this before) Lying about codes, he said he would release a code at 50k likes but it was ultimately just interaction bait. (I know this isn't a major issue but trust with the community is a huge factor) He had a lot of potential sure, I like his game. it's just that his business practice is laughable. I genuinely hope he learns from this and actually manages his community. Edit: turns out he put warship on sale for robux??? It had no proper balancing and john said it was behind that level because it wasn't finished (still isnt) and now is indirectly making players buy it.

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

The TB skins being locked behind walls is literally the same as pvz2 where ea the greedy company who bought pvz decided to bait og players

@randomnobody8713

4 ай бұрын

TD genre in Roblox? Definitely Outside of Roblox? It would be decent but it would never reach the same level as other TD games like PvZ, Bloom and Arknights

@alliedanchor8864

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the game is definitely turning into a massive cashgrab. There's the TB skins like you mentioned, then there's also the warship which you either have to partake in an insane grind to unlock or spend the equivalent of $50 to buy outright. Not to mention that he nerfed the community-favorite grinding maps/strategies so that more people are now tempted to just spend the money to buy warship and towers like juggernaut and railgunner.

@Zekellus

4 ай бұрын

​@randomnobody8713 Yeah, I'd never compare it to bloons, but tdx is very fun for a roblox game Cash grabs are ok if it funds the game but john literally gets paid by youtube and can fund the game out of his own pocket

@Zekellus

4 ай бұрын

​@@alliedanchor8864I didn't even realise he made warship available with robux wtf Now it just seems like he nerfed other towers to bring attention and an incentive towards warship to make people buy it

It would be a good idea to be alive if they added something tower galactica, like a system that enemies attack you or just a campaign mode, would be way funnier

@FunkyWendigo

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 wdym skill issue

@leonardotrujillo8661

4 ай бұрын

​@@FunkyWendigoignore him he's just rage baiting for a reaction because he nothing better to do with his life and wonders why people hate him

@FunkyWendigo

4 ай бұрын

@@leonardotrujillo8661 oh, makes sense, blud's probably an 11 y/o who keeps trying to roast ppl but ain't got the ass to actually do something offensive

@FunkyWendigo

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636 ok zoomer 🤓

A lot of people were only hyped up for tdx because it will compete with tds and below and the devs will have to work harder to keep up

I have been reading through the comments and i have to mention about 1 thing TDS has that is a massive advantage over TDX And that thing is "Matchmaking", this helps out so much for new players and also helps in mitigating the repetitiveness of grinding because unlike TDX and other TD games (that i know of) that use some sort of elevator or just everyone hopping into a specific area to join a match which is very awkward for new players since it is going to be hard to try and find people to play with especially if you don't have friends to help. It also helps mitigate repetitiveness because since you are getting matched with players from any server that means you can get cool people to chat with while you are playing the game which leads to more fun social engagement alongside the gameplay. So overall even tho it delayed the frost invasion update for so long (and still matchmaking was delayed even after frost invasion came out) it was prolly the best resource investment paradoxum games has done for tds Now what they need to do is fix easy mode and the commander dialogue lol TLDR: TDS Matchmaking is a huge advantage over TDX and helps with new player progression and repetitiveness

@literallyjustblackscreen

4 ай бұрын

ok stop yapping lil bro

@DangBao-ic1wf

4 ай бұрын

everything you said is true, all the tds youtubers who started a level 0-100 series always join in matchmaking squad whatever gamemodes for interaction with players = content and being willingly carried by other players for better progression that you dont have to hopelessly ask for help in lobby. From the release of matchmaking beta is when tds started to draw me into the game once again since random map and teammates is always fun until now with special modes availble making matchmaking more fun and addicting to me

@dann6y

4 ай бұрын

@@CuteFish636tdx fan lol

@robowisanveithasung6022

4 ай бұрын

@@literallyjustblackscreenI mean he’s not wrong thst matchmaking finds games easier

@literallyjustblackscreen

4 ай бұрын

@@robowisanveithasung6022 fork you we dont need those comments around here pal

I think tds just need more power to satisfy there players and tdx just need to wait for a bit more while doing there best I think both TD game is awesome just need some Abit of fixes with some ting or patient so yeah that's it

@Haha-wk2xi

4 ай бұрын

Here before Brazil guy.

@jake-tj5cu

4 ай бұрын

who is that "Brazil guy"?

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

Brazil kid is a rage baiter in the replies don't listen ignore it because your giving them attention for clout because no clout means go broke​@@jake-tj5cu

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

Because every rage baiter and troll always do baiting people for clout so responding to those idiots is a mistake

@jake-tj5cu

4 ай бұрын

don't worry man I just asked after that I just be silent cause I still have more important stuff in my life to deal with and dealing with trollers is not one of them

This video is so true. A lot of the time I’d ask my friends if they thought if TDX was gonna be the new main, or end up like tower blitz. I liked the game, but quickly lost internet. I already have everything and I am NOT get 50k coins. Sorry, John.

@baboren

4 ай бұрын

I do note though, its popularity will definitely bring it in the homepage. New players will probably notice it and play ti before TDS. And if the6 add variety and cool new gamemdoes TDS doesn’t have, it will bring its players back up. Games take patience, after all.

i got a better idea how about something new like revisit events or even like level towers or even special modes like horde defense where instead of the tower not being place on path but something like where alot of enemies come out and have to reach or destroy the core and instead of them attacking on the path the zombie will attack your towers so maybe a new section called survival towers with (barrier,turrets,landmines)(survivalist and rioter that is from the barracks or even a story mode i mean it has to have lore

its because john keeps nerfing shit and being a nuisance

@tremeschinion9420

4 ай бұрын

can't nerf problematic towers anymore huh

@1979-2Apache_Attack_Helicopter

4 ай бұрын

@@tremeschinion9420 im not talking about barracks im talking about ELITE AND EXPERT MODE BEING WORSE FOR GRINDING THAN EASY

@gamerbeginner5019

4 ай бұрын

​@1979-2Apache_Attack_Helicopter bro they buff reward

@tremeschinion9420

4 ай бұрын

@@1979-2Apache_Attack_Helicopter fair enough, that is pretty awful... though i gotta check it Expert isn't supposed to be grinded, it's a challenge that requires good towers, a good strat and usually a friend or two Elite, however... i dont think it's supposed to be solo-able on hard maps, but yeah it is kinda awful that John decreased Elite rewards, that's something i gotta agree with

@1979-2Apache_Attack_Helicopter

4 ай бұрын

@@gamerbeginner5019 not the XP rewards which is what matters

some problems in tdx in my perspective: - most map are unplayable due to obstacles blocking too much range (imagine a headlight blocking the entire section of the road), i think why not make towers be able to shoot through them but the damage is decreased - no rejoin system which can be frustrating - grinding is now more painful due to constant nerf of the rewards and the increase of difficulty - intermediate needs to reduce its playthrough length bonus: why tf did they nerf elite exps

@ball6544

4 ай бұрын

@@Wes_gaming2671 the path blocking system can be quite annoying since a small and thin object can block so much range, also laser shots and high calibers are expected to punch through thin obstacle, so why not implementing it

@ball6544

4 ай бұрын

@@Wes_gaming2671 expert reward increased from 925 to 1000? i dont think its a significant buff especially when the best maps for expert are nerfed, also most people might not have much time to get a team and just want to solo

@JkEcoXD

4 ай бұрын

1. Although some obstacles are annoying, that allows for certain strategies and use your brain to figure out how to overcome them. Like In Misleading Pond at the end of the bridge instead of putting troops by the barrels or by the lamp post, you can put them on the little rock that's close to the barrels. 2.A rejoin system would be greatly appreciated 3.Most of the nerfs make sense, but they need to buff the simple maps a tad bit cause you're getting like 175 from easy. 4. I think inter's fine where it's at. But I get what you mean 5. Idk too much about that

I don’t think tdx is dying, the new update was one of the most grindy ones since both Xmas nightmare and warship were hard. but I see better updates coming

@leonardotrujillo8661

4 ай бұрын

It is dying. I think you got dead and dying wrong. Dead means very few players, and dying means losing its player base more than gaining.

I hope there would be a sandbox mode where you can test strategies to find the fastest time to finish a game mode

@user-ee3kr8et3x

4 ай бұрын

That isn't skill issue sandbox mode don't require skill when you have admin commands​@@CuteFish636

I hope its going to get more hype

@imachicken.4799

4 ай бұрын

None wants that happens it way to complicated

@cotelpl

4 ай бұрын

​@@imachicken.4799why u wrote nobody want comeback of tdx? like i want tdx to back so dont write NOBODY cuz there are ppl who want xd

@cotelpl

4 ай бұрын

and tdx isnt complicated, just if enemy is clearly BULLET RESISTANT that means BULLETS CANT DO DMG

@imachicken.4799

4 ай бұрын

@@cotelpl Everyone does solo wich u have to figure out what wave tower u needed

@cotelpl

4 ай бұрын

@@imachicken.4799 i got a team, lot of ppl got teams (especially for doing strats) and dont tell me strats are complicated, if u cant just remember them just turn second window and play as strat telld

TDX is extremelly grindy for new and late players, you seen every tower price as well the rewards of every gamemode making it far more grindy, but ONLY IN TDX! This is the biggest trouble, John needs to work more on the begineer friendly aspect of the game rather than the towers and showcases

@ramyadalwasif2527

4 ай бұрын

Ecen as a warship owner its a hard tower to use so i quickly lost interest of it and nearly everything else is done the only thing left for me to grind is skins which are mostly useless to me which means a late game player quickly leaves after this

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

​@@ramyadalwasif2527wdym they leave, the game gets updates bi- weekly.

@user-tl4ym5eh1d

4 ай бұрын

Wow your saying that like tds doesn't have the same issue. 50k for ONE golden tower you don't even get to choose. Way better than grinding the same amount of time for the two most expensive towers in tdx.😐

@fancysnek8522

4 ай бұрын

@@user-tl4ym5eh1d Yes, golden towers are 50k and they are a late game unit, what about the rest of the towers? Event towers? Where do you see you need an extremelly long grind for a non hardcore tower in TDS just to start playing in gamemodes that arent normal mode Thats what I mean, I never said TDS wasnt grindy but TDX beats that grindset Lv100 and 50k coins for a unit which can be used in specific maps really sounds rewarding isnt Now, what about 50k coins for a tower which can be used in every map Thats the difference

@Thehalfbrainedbean

4 ай бұрын

​​@@user-tl4ym5eh1d bro forgot you can buy them separately from the skin rotation store but some more expensive 💀 That that just gold towers where they GIVE YOU A BUFF TO THE TOWER and isn't just some normal skin crate ? Also coins are on more easier to get in tds bruh 😭 You legit can easily get 1000s of coins from just grinding molten buld

It's probably just because compared to TDS, TDX has much less content as of right now, but once they have more for the newer players to get hooked into and more things to do for higher levels, I think it'll go back to it's original player count.

John Roblocks trying to stomp out every grinding method possible