Ship hasn’t sailed… I picked it up age 42 and moved up a class each year and now ride the Advanced line. It’s tremendous fun - doesn’t beat moto but it helps that too.

@loneventhorizon

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I live in the city in brissy. I hadn't riden a push bike in years, since I was a teenager, I'm 39 now, and i went and bought this sick downhill bike just to get around. I could never mono or do stoppies. It was only a few weeks, now i can ride everywhere on the back wheel, and i'm getting pretty good at stoppies too.

@okcmoparguy724

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, I'm 44 and my 12yr old and I share an Evo 200 (biggest cc he could start). I have to make myself ride it but afterwards I'm always faster, looser and smoother on my big bike. The skills translate directly over and the muscle memory is easier to learn (only weights 150lbs).

@1998TDM

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I got a trials bike in my mid 40's and it has transformed my big bike riding. Dare I say that I actually ride the big bike rather than being taken for a ride now. I'm also riding stuff that terrified me a few years ago.

@realpremier

2 жыл бұрын

Ship never has sailed, its never too late :)

@sceep

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely hasn't sailed. I started riding trials @ 40 and now @ 44 I won our local clubs 2021 Amateur class championship. My dad started riding trials @ 60! Do it! You will 100% learn the things you are looking for and it will help you on every other bike!

In the late 70s I raced MX and progressed well but plateaued. Read that DeCoster had been a trials champ before MX. I bought a trials bike, set up sections (I lived on a farm), and practiced trials rather than wear out my MX bike. I learned so much. On a trials bike you can isolate an input and try different things and get a reliable, repeatable result. You learn things about balance and peg weighting that are not obvious on a MX bike, but matter. I also learned something about tires that is still largely ignored: edge quality. Whatever the tread/knob pattern, the grip is in the edges. I started cutting my MX tires to refresh the edges. Huge. It all made a big difference and was the smartest thing I ever did for MX. DeCoster and JM Bayle were both trials champs. 2 of the 5 best and and tidiest riders ever. Not a coincidence.

I bought a trials bike back in the days when I was racing enduro to help with my technique in enduro. I fell in love with trials and ended up quitting enduro... Been 10 years competing in trials and I absolutely love it. Community is awesome, you can get an awesome training session in a really small area, it's cheaper, safer... Best decision I've ever made

@user-fz8fy4zl1c

Ай бұрын

I'm selling my enduro, as way to dangerous, expensive especially with fuel prices,going back to trials, can have a great time in the back yard!

Completely agree on the importance of the Trials bike. Both my boys have Osets and the bike helped them transition from the balance bike to the 50 and built a good foundation for a life time of riding. I will always have a Trials bike for the kids to ride. I need to get one for myself. Keep up the great work!

The only people who don't respect trials have obviously never done it...

Recently got into trials and can’t believe how much it has helped me on my enduro bike, great fun too

I did trials for years got to areasonable level. Then moved onto enduro only at local level, the times I'd get to a hard enduro section and people would be petrified to go up or down something, but due to trials experience used to ride straight into it. And breeze through.

Moto Yoga! I have never sweated so much by riding so slow. It helped me progress my technical skills by keeping feet on pegs, traction when accelerating, and staying calm under duress.

Got a trials bike last year. Great fun should of got one years ago. Love the mx but good to have a break & still get out on a bike.

I second that and raise it to every motorcyclist should ride a trials bike. Never too old to learn new skills. Don't need to compete, just get some tuition from experienced folks, improvements will be massive for all disiplines.

Billy Bolt is the Man

Wow didn't know you were part of filming Donner Partying

I started racing mx in 1970. I started riding trials in 1974 and within 2 months it knocked 15-20 seconds off my mx lap times. I loved trials and competed in trials for 5 years while I was also racing mx. I ended up winning the AMA District 5 Expert class Championship in 1976, rode a few Trials Nationals while I was racing pro mx. I'm currently 70 years old and still ride both in Vintage competition.

@OtisFlint

5 ай бұрын

Awesome, good for you!

Billy was fantastic to watch in the British trials championship, I’ve observed sections on the St David’s trial when he’s been competing.

Gary Bailey had trials in his training program, teaches bike skills!

The problem with trials is it’s so bloody difficult. I’m not talking about u and your Mx mates messing around in a quarry but training with comp trials guys riding a 30ft section with 3 obstacles for two hours hopping and bouncing trying with every last ounce of energy to get over that tree root clean to get a run at the off camber step. Sweat pissing out of your tomato head while some 14yo rides it like it’s nothing . That’s why trials comp guys are such small elite group. I came from Moto to enduro to trials and it’s a ball buster to do properly as an average joe mxer.

Billy s discription of that trials guy from the seventies is spot on sounds like my dad riding his bultaco sammy miller first bike i ever rode ha ha .

Humble guy Billy is

Think one of the issues with trials that puts off people is that it is actually quite a bit harder that Mx / enduro to learn. Most people could get on a Mx / enduro bike and after a bit of practice could ride around a track, maybe not fast, but they would get around. Trials not so much.

@stevenllewellyn8906

2 жыл бұрын

I think for most it’s the helmet and the attire.

@Finley818

2 жыл бұрын

money also plays a big factor as not a lot of people can afford to be buying a few bikes

@vmcmark7578

2 жыл бұрын

Trials bikes make you use your CORE because you don't get the GYRO effect of the spinning wheels that come from SPEED, everything HAS TO COME FROM YOUR CORE as far as making/keeping the bike going where & how you want it to go & that's why they are such good training bikes, CORE & BALANCE from the BODY & not from the speed of the wheels.

@nathancrittenden8525

2 жыл бұрын

I think the fact you look like a total bellend in the helmet and gear puts people off

@andristucs6044

2 жыл бұрын

Few things that put people off for trials: - it is not and does not look dynamic and aggressive which is a thing that people look for in a bike - bikes are quite expensive for what they are and relatively low quality, not thought out too well. A lot of shortcuts. - competitions are really boring for spectators - competition does not look and feel as a sport at all because of long time riders spend in lines before the sections - a lot of riders out of shape does not help the prestige of the sport

Never had a trials bike I’m 45 and rode motocross since the age of 7!!! Stopped motocross at 30 as thought I was too old.Started enduro riding at 40 and do you know what? Wish I never rode motocross and wish I’d have started trials as a kid!! Basically everyone who was involved in motocross was a prick! And everyone involved in trials and enduro aren’t!! Having fun is enduro and being a wanker is motocross I’m afraid!!!

@geoffmartin5041

2 жыл бұрын

Just reading through the comments section here, you can tell who the motocross guys are.

@RequisiteSkyPeople

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, we’ve noticed that when we started looking at gncc guys and fans. Way more chill and nice, love for the sport.

I was talking about this not long ago. I raced moto hard around the Easter USA in 2000-2004. Got out of it a few years later. Now I’m back into it and doing enduro stuff but like trails stuff. The skill u gain from those r crazy. But back then it was like nah not the cool thing. But man we left a lot on the table by not trying this stuff.

Get a trials bike at any age!!! There is always the ability to improve!

Rode trials in my twenties and thirties. Family forced a break. Nowadays I ride an eMTB and I’m glad I have trials riding skills in the bank. I ride up sections other eMTBers can’t touch and let’s be honest, it uphill riding that is the real fun of eMTB.

Billy bolt is a beast

Started on a TY80 when I was 11!

It’s never to late ,if you get a trials bike you need to go to an event, it teaches you the capability of the bike.🤠

Trials is so much fun. A BEER A LOOP

Had a trials tire on my DRZ when I bought it. Spent a couple weeks trying to melt it off and threw a Maxxis Desert IT on there 😆

When you asked your dad can I do motocross and he said no but you can do trials 😭😭😭🤣

@chadrides914

2 жыл бұрын

Bud dadddd Trials is so geyyyyyy

I honestly wish I’d had a trials bike when I started (early 70s).

The champ! ⚡️BB 57⚡️💪🏼

If I could have my time again...I'm now 33 🤣...I took up trials riding at 51 (to improve my trail riding skills - and it works!)

BILLY BOLT HARD ENDURO BADASS!

That Donner video is nice😎😎35 minutes from my house✌️

I ride trials... it makes all other riding easy

I don’t understand when you say trials isn’t interesting to watch, has no one been watching the age old battle between Toni Bou and Adam Raga in X-Trial? Mind blowing skills.

@richardmiddleton7770

Жыл бұрын

Or Jordi Terres, Dougie Lampkin, Steve Colley back in the late 90's, early 2000's!

Most people can only afford one bike. One of each if they're also a street rider. I wish I could have been so lucky.

@fprintf

2 жыл бұрын

The other limitation is time. If you only have so much time and two/three bikes, is riding the trials bike taking away time from enduro practice?

@Jimmy_Watt

2 жыл бұрын

@@fprintf I'd gladly have an trials bike in addition to my dirt bike and street bike. I have the time too, honestly. No children. They ain't cheap. Inflation is at a 40 year high. 40% of all American dollars have been printed in the last 1.5 years. Thanks Biden. The truth is that the middle class (traditionally the majority of motorcyclists of all flavors) is shrinking.

If it wasn’t for the spandex and half helmets it would probably be a lot more accepted lol.

Trials bikes make you use your CORE because you don't get the GYRO effect of the spinning wheels that come from SPEED, everything HAS TO COME FROM YOUR CORE as far as makinmg/keeping the bike going where & how you want it to go !

It teaches rider and bike placement. How to be in position to do the obstacle. Switching over to quad racing it's kinda the same because the the quad so wide you have to have good position to dodge trees. Michigan Ontario Trials Association MOTA. TEAM MICHIANA RYP

@stevenllewellyn8906

2 жыл бұрын

Quad racing is like quad racing. Different strokes for different folks but quads are lameeee..

@chadrides914

2 жыл бұрын

Quads 😂

Saddleback east 2 Day CHAMPION

dougie lampkin is not known much. but one of the GOATS of the two wheel world

Try doing the burn steps Billy!

Around 4:10-4:15. To go fast you need to forget this shit. BWAHAHAHHAA

I grew up watching Ot Pi and Hans Ray! Then later Dougie Lampkin and Steve Colley! I've always liked trials! Hard Enduro to me is a bit more point and squirt with your feet hanging and hope for the best!... Maybe not in Billy's case though!

I want a trials bike, just cant afford to have one and my 450, so i just try and do trials stuff on my 450, successfuly? No, but its a good time lol

@Gnarlynutz218

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man they’re just so damn expensive I’ve wanted one forever

Dude get Taylor roberts on here!!!!

At 48 years old it is never my fault I can’t get over something. It is always the bikes fault 😂

I respect trials bike riders. I fuck myself up on dirtbike, let alone the billy goat shit that trials guys do. But that amount of control would come in handy

Excuses are like assholes… everyone’s got one. Too old!? Wtf are you on about? Just means you still haven’t grown up enough to not give a shit what other people think. If you wanna learn, just fucking do it. I bought/rode my first trial bike at 40. I’m improving leaps and bounds ahead of my mates who think they’re too cool to ride trials.

Trials bikes aren’t as “sexy” as MX bikes that guys are hitting big jumps and having chicks dig the MX guys. But if young people could think past the look of trails bikes and that genre and think about what trials bike can teach you with finesse of clutch, body position and over all feeling of a bike’s capabilities it will help younger kids have a better understanding of what they and the bike are capable of. I always tell people who ride street bikes that if you have never ridden a dirt bike then they should because it allows them to understand and be able to handle different situations that could hurt you on the street. A dirt bike rider turned street rider is always a better rider than the guy who just jumped into street bikes. I’ve been looking at getting another trials bike because I miss messing around on it and learning because you’re constantly learning to profess your skills and trials bike allow you to do that much easier.

@jamesadams2334

6 ай бұрын

I rode mx for 50 years and trials for 44 of those years and I always thought that trials bikes are much more sexy than mx bikes. A lot of hot chicks around trials also.

I dont think the lycra helps with the image

It's just lack of knowledge thinking your to old to learn trial's! If you wanna get to the top of Enduro it starts on a trial's bike

Trials bikes give you core strength and a leg workout ,guys who take the piss of trials riders haven't a clue and are not serious about their riding . They normally are the ones who have the pretty bike and can't ride worth a fuck and who come after their one lap and brag about how much air they got when they never left the ground 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

it's the spandex and gay helmet

Why at 33 is this bloke talking like it’s game over? Ship has sailed???? What a ridiculous mindset. I’ve taken enduro up at 44. So what. You still can learn. If someone can learn dirt bike riding from scratch at 60 (which they do] and take on that learning cliff, you sure as shit can improve upon your skills at 33. You’ll never be Billy bolt/Jarvis but who cares.

Hard enduro was my gateway into trials. Super fun, really challenging, a super work out, and less chance of major injury as you age. Cost of the bikes, for what they are, is definitely an obstacle for most. People are super interested until the ask how much I paid.

@Jimmy_Watt

2 жыл бұрын

The middle class is shrinking.

@choanlpoto

2 жыл бұрын

mtb trial is a very good alternative. Very cheap used, and you can ride all day with a curb and a bench.