ISSUES FIXED? Pagani Design PD1717 V2 Longines Spirit Homage Watch Review
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Here's the review of the Pagani Design PD1717 V2 Longines Spirit homage watch.
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I have this in green and added dark green strap. Gorgeous
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Nice. I haven't tried mine on a strap yet. But I think it could be a bit of a strap monster.
I ordered the V1 in blue on a VERY cheap daily deal (under £30) and they sent the V2!! One happy customer. It's a lovely watch. Real weight and impressive finish. It gets a lot of attention, which is always nice I really love the red second hand! Great channel. Huge thanks for all you do.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
2 ай бұрын
Nice. No wonder you're happy for that price. Cheers, I'm glad you like the channel 👍
I have it in white, which is a really spiffing watch. The dial is very subtly textured and nicely white (not the ugly 'champagne' of the Pagani's main inspiration). The distortion of the crystal is really wonderful. I bought several Paganis and sold them on because they ultimately did not have the 'it' factor, but this one is a keeper.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
This is certainly one of their best to date.
I liked the look of this in v1 form, so great to see some improvements. Obvs credit goes to Longines for what is a good looking design. Some many watches, so little time…
Very thorough & helpful review, thank you!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
5 ай бұрын
Cheers. I'm glad it was helpful.
I really enjoyed mine! Thought it fit really well to wrist and with the new hand length, I think it works really well! Almost convinced me to buy the genuine thing!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely one of their best so far I think.
Oh why do I like watches so much. Now I have to go get this little beauty. ty for great video
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
3 ай бұрын
😆 It's almost like an addiction this hobby isn't it?
I also have a green one I picked up on Mercari for dirt cheap. I think this is becoming a top 2 or 3 Pagani for me. I do have a soft spot for slightly dressy field watches. I like almost everything about this one... except the lume. If they would apply five layers of lume and jack the price up $5 across the board, I think they'd dig into the Steeldive/Addiesdive level of watches which tend to be about 5% better overall, but 500% better lume. I know a lot of folks are starting to slag on Pagani overall but you can't deny their variety of watches. Love the details on the dial, love the dial color, like the hand set.
Blue is my favorite but all of them are quite nice. Dig this watch. Good stuff. Nice review. Cheers!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I agree, you can't really go wrong with any of the different colours. Thanks 👍
I avoided v1 and got blue v2 instead and am very happy with it. The clasp is surprisingly finished much better than those usual rolex style clasp from PD.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they're upping their game. I'm glad you're enjoying yours.
Nothing really wrong with this watch. The best looking colour option of the original is a champagne coloured dial. It watch could use some better AR coating and an applied logo wouldn't go amiss either. This would make an amazing watch out of what's already a very good watch! Nice review mate!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah an applied logo would be nice. Most AliExpress watches could always do with some more AR. Thanks mate.
@XjohnjohnX88
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. AR coating, applied logo, good lume for the same price and it would be a best seller for sure!
@sinesaii
Жыл бұрын
With good clear AR, i would buy it. I tried the Longines on at Macy’s and it is heavenly. The lugs are long and cool. It is a great watch, but twice the price it should be. I could see buying a pre owned, but I just do not love it enough for even that price. Who knows. I would jump on the Pagani if it had proper AR.
@ericcccccable
7 ай бұрын
@@sinesaii You have to get the white version from Pagani. The lack of AR is not noticeable with the white dial. On dark dials it's more annoying.
I have to say that looks really good. Great review:-)
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I think so too. Thanks 👍
Overall a damn good buy. I have the Air King which has a standard caseback which makes removal easy for regulation. This one not. Be aware the straps need refinishing to get rid of the sharp edges. If you're up to it then an excellent buy.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the build quality of these latest Pagani Design watches has definitely done up a notch... But they still need to improve some things.
This watch might look good on a type of homage to the Longines green silicone strap as well as the bracelet. Great review!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I think you might be right there. Cheers mate.
Hi great review of a beautiful watch what are your thoughts of the green dial is it flat smooth or grainy?
great review as always the lume is always an issue I would rather they got rid of the extra strap they put in and spent the money on a bit more lume, not my style (i have no style my wife says) great work as ever mate ))
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
That would be my vote too. That's a bit harsh of her. It's not like you're rocking those huge ugly Invicta's 😉 Thanks mate 👍
Just found your channel. Are there any other good longines homage watches? Dolce vita, flagship, etc
That looks the nicest Pagani I have seen so far 👍
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's definitely one of their best so far.
Nice looking watch in photos but with a single dome crystal is gonna be a reflection machine like my Hamilton Khaki King. With minimal AR, it's probably gonna be a pass. It's funny they mention that V2 has "more" AR but if it's anything like my PD1734, AR again is minimal. Shame they couldn't do flat or DD sapphire which would negate some of the need for more AR.
Nice looking watch, I agree just the logo really cleans up the dial, but come on Pagani, surely lume formula doesn't cost that much!!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I know right. Get rid of the extra strap and put that towards better lume.
Good review man - I hope you can find a little relief outdoors these days, being attached to a wheelchair is not fun. Take care.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Yeah it was nice to get out and about for the first time in a long time.
Without Brits Aliland wouldn't sell green dial watches... (at all??😋). Anyways, a big thank to Longines for this amazing design, and Pagani for bringing it to the masses, twice...! Really like this design, wouldn't mind that much for the lume on this, you just want to stare this dial, that's that for me. Now that they fixed the hands to... Thanks for the review James, be well mate, cheers.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Now the hands are sorted, it's much better isn't it? Cheers mate, you too.
Just got one ($65 SHIPPED). I bought it out of curiosity and to tinker with. So nice in person and my it's my 1st PD. Three issues with the head of the watch: 1-the flat-bottom (sgl dome) crystal; 2- poor lume 3-hands are cheap looking in person I could do something about 1 and 3, but not the lume. But then....it's not a diver. Cheers!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Lume has always been Pagani Design's Achilles heel.
They fixed almost everything with V.2. Only thing I wish they would offer is the option of a smoother highbeat movement like a PT5000 which they recently put in the 1723 models.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
That would be a nice option to have.
@zibitadin4275
4 ай бұрын
list of v1 vs v2 changes?
This thing is gorgeous and came in under 60 hours from time ordered to Virginia, USA. fastest Aliexpress ever!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Wow that is quick.
I have this in V2 Blue and overall I like it. Would have preferred it as a 39mm and a bit thinner. Quartz movement even maybe? Main disappointment would be the female end links on the bracelet. I do like that general style of bracelet but wish they had gone with male end links like on the Spirit it resembles. Pagani Design are at a really good standard of workmanship now. Have bought two watches on the current Mega Brands sale. RMALTI diver MM200 White birch dial and another with a sunburst blue/greenish? dial. Went for the 'No Logo' option for each of them. Bit of a weird brand name?
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I've not heard of RMALTI before. I'll have to check them out.
why there is no issue comparison mentioned in the title? please add at least a list of v1 vs v2 changes in the description
@hrs.ai2018
2 ай бұрын
The diff between v1 and v2 is only at its second, minutes and hour hands where v1 bit shorter. That's all
Very nice, good that, they have gone for a cleaner look. Thankd
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Removing the Pagani Design text makes a big difference doesn't it?
@sylvainb.coternbsc.n4896
8 ай бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I completely agree with you. PD should put only an applied logo +- 5 % bigger on all their watches. I would put the Pagani Design text on the back case or on the rotor if it is a back glass case. C3 or BGW9 should also be better. They should offer their watch with a strap at x price and watch a bracelet at x price. Excellent review as usual HWR. Bonjour from Montréal !
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
8 ай бұрын
@@sylvainb.coternbsc.n4896 Definitely. Those little tweaks would make a big difference. Cheers mate, I appreciate that.
Beautiful
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It is a good looking piece.
Agree with you. A very beautiful watch. But Pagani Design really need to improve the lume on their watches! Everyone is saying!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. If they can sort that out it will take their watches to another level.
I think this is a great watch; super for the price; would recommend to anyone looking for an everyday/anyday watch. (Single) domed sapphire a winner. Thanks.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
11 ай бұрын
You are getting a lot for not a lot of money.
This could be the first pagani that I might buy less text need that lume adjustment though .Thanks James Neet bracelet by the way.👍
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Which colour would you go for then?
@maljones.8737
Жыл бұрын
Green I think looks good.especially the out door shots.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
@@maljones.8737 It's pretty subtle from some angles, but that's part of the reason I like it too.
The AR really became better?
Applied number! Brilliant I’ve been looking for a watch like this for years, not in green though
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It's a nice detail isn't it? Which dial colour would you go for then?
@paulhiggins8774
Жыл бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I’m a blue guy but to be honest I like the white but if it was silver it would be my go to colour
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
@@paulhiggins8774 The blue does look good. I just went for the green, as I already have quite a few blue dial watches though.
I'd really love this, if only they made a 40 or 42
Honestly I wear this one a lot more than some of my other more expensive watches. I like everything about it, except perhaps the crystal and of course the lume. (crystal is a little too reflective)
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
That's high praise indeed.
It's a very nice looking watch, but a little bit too small and I prefer if it has a quartz choice as well
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It'll definitely appeal more to those with smaller wrists.
@vladspb_
Жыл бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR unfortunately, almost all of these nice looking homage watches are very small. Some even 36mm. Today watches should be at least 40mm.
I have been collecting Seiko Astron and Citizen Atessa watches but these homage watches from Pagani with their price and quality make me want to try and get one.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
6 ай бұрын
They certainly offer a lot for not a lot of money.
It's a shockingly good watch to me especially for just over $100. I got it for 104 with coupons. With sales like the current one, I imagine you might be able to get it around the same price or less. The lume isn't great but it's okay for the type watch. It barely matters to me. The bracelet is decent and probably better than most, if not all, other PD bracelets. The bracelet is as good as or better than many Seikos, Orients, and Citizens--at least the watches under $500. The finishing on the watch head and dial are suburb in my opinion. Great watch. Much better than I expected.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's definitely one of their best finished watches, with the little details that you don't always get with Pagani Design.
Good one man. Me I would have preferred a double domed hardlex over a single domed sapphire.. It makes só much difference in appearance Some silicium carbide p1200 paper is to hardlex what polywatch is to acrylic
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. My preference is always sapphire.
So many distracting mic pops in the audio in this video. Did you change mic, mic placement, or gain settings?
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. I've recently changed my mic. So, I'm still trying to figure out the best placement and settings for it.
Pity we can't have radium dials. Such is life.
would you know what tool and size to remove the lid?
@sanctuaryjester
Ай бұрын
what lid, the case back?
I almost just bought this, it's in my basket along with the 1723 I think it is the one with the pt5000
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully this video was helpful then.
@bifflee3603
Жыл бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR yes definitely - thanks
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
@@bifflee3603 Great. If you do end up getting one, please consider using my affiliate link.
What I do not understand is why are Chinese avoiding original designs like it's fire. Seriously, the design of this dial can be easily tweaked and modified to be original while keeping the general "spirit" of the watch. Instead Pagani Design goes for some subtle differences. Same with Addiesdive's Hamilton Khaki Automatic homage. They've added a red accent (200m WR) which actually improves the looks a lot (now the tip of second hand is not the only red part in view), but it's way too little to call that watch "original". The quality is there, prices are awesome, but it's homage fiesta all over the place. And there's really a lot of ways to make an original looking field watch. Just combine 2-3 existing designs and it most likely will still look great. Regarding the lume - I wonder how it compares to f.e. Addiesdive MYH2, because that one can rival Orient Ray 2 when it comes to longevity, and Orient Ray 2 is a pretty solid performer.
I got this one month ago. The lack of AR and poor Lum really make me not wearing it as often.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Do you have the V1 or V2?
@d7r_tv
Жыл бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I got the V2 (longer hands) blue version
@tedng6657
Жыл бұрын
@@d7r_tv I thought the V2 comes with AR coating?
the biggest issue of this watch for me is the crystal. this watch should have a flat sapphire crystal with tons of AR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the AR, but I personally prefer domed crystals myself.
Every single review company's about the lume. It's kind of a which they still have addressed it. Pretty much every other popular AliExpress brand has by now.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they'll listen to us all and improve it soon 🤞
@ramspencer5492
Жыл бұрын
Typo. Auto "correct". Complains. Not company
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
@@ramspencer5492 I figured that was what you meant.
Great looking watch, let down by poor lume. Come on get it sorted PD !
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It's better than some of their others, but still needs improving.
@stevenrobertson6656
Жыл бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Agreed .
If only it had AR coating and C3 superluminova :DDD
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty rare to get decent AR on AliExpress watches at this price. But they definitely need to up the lume though. I still love it though.
@YannickKhong
Жыл бұрын
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR well at the very least, AR coating like the San Martins :D
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
@@YannickKhong Don't forget though, they cost quite a bit more.
Guess I'm in the minority in that lume means nothing to me. I want to see the watch in the light, not the dark.
A lot of watch for your money
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
Definitely. They are improving with the attention to detail and QC.
Whisper review.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
5 ай бұрын
I'd like to think it's more ASMR 😉
Terrible glare, a deal-breaker!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
It could definitely do with some AR.
Terrible quality control. Mine came with tilted dial and dented case. DO NOT BUY!
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that. Did you open a dispute with AliExpress?