The government puts nation’s peace and harmony as our cohesiveness is the main, which is appropriate.

Very satisfied reading through most of the comments here. Really appreciate the common sense singaporeans have. We must not forget how vulnerable we are and at what did our peace cost us.

Hats off to Fahima for being brave enough to voice up publicly for her own beliefs, especially as a female muslim. As safe as singapore is, I think we cannot rule out the possibility that Fahima is putting her own safety at risk by doing so.

@AbdulRahman-dx5ur

6 ай бұрын

🤨 What are you implying exactly, about who may disagree with her and what they may do to her?

@n.hishamn.hazelinah6962

6 ай бұрын

Stupid is knowing the truth seeing the truth but beleiving the lies

As much as we are encouraged to pick a stand, i think we should not rush to be hostile to others and give ourselves some time to reflect and educate ourselves first

@johnlay3040

7 ай бұрын

Geeze, how much more you should see and hear before you acknowledge that a genocide is being committed in Gaza. You, Singaporeans should just stop sploshing ketchup all over.

@hopacotha

6 ай бұрын

​@@johnlay3040 Some Singaporeans only see this problem based on religion. I talked to one, and they didn't know where the West Bank is or why Israelis are called settlers. This happens because the government shares wrong information due to its connection with Israel and because some people don't care to learn about the main issue.

@user47362

6 ай бұрын

​@@johnlay3040don't believe everything you see on the Internet, don't rush to react and call this or that.

@huaiwei

6 ай бұрын

@@johnlay3040 and just how balanced is your opinion on this issue then? If Israel wants to conduct a genocide, Gaza will be completely flattened by now with over a million deaths. Why bother giving warnings to civilians there to get away from impending strikes, if Israel just wants to exterminate everyone? Maybe get the glue out of your eyes first before telling others not to splosh ketchup.

@lily19855

6 ай бұрын

"@johnlay3040, I'm sorry, but we are not binary robots like you. We can condemn terrorism while also condemning any country or organization that goes against humanitarian and international law. It's important to acknowledge that the concept of self-defense should not be used as a cover for genocide. Life is rarely as simple as right or wrong, this or that way. If there were a single solution or viewpoint that is appropriate for everything, there wouldn't be so much conflict in the world today. So, as much as you mentioned that "blood is on our hands," I believe that people who hold biased viewpoints as the only answer to everything won't help lessen the conflict in Gaza. Therefore, blood is also on your hands. The only difference is whether we are ready to be accountable and responsible for own actions. Someone giving biased judgments just because there are no consequences to themselves speaks volumes.

Thankfully Singaporeans are mostly educated so we use logic even when we are affected by emotions.

The Tunku decided to separate Singapore from Malaysia to preserve peace in 1965. He decided on a two-state solution which thankfully worked.

Kudos to Singapore & Singaporeans. This is a very matured & balanced discussion.

This situation has brought to all in Singapore about the important role of Internal Security Act and the ISD.

@vibr0314

6 ай бұрын

why so hard to say brought here brought there la just tell SG " dont say anything sensitive topic or discussion" u end up there LOL

This is really a well produced episode! More people should watch this. Appreciate how the hosts allowed the two guests to speak for most of the video/podcast.

This video made me realised how fast I jumped into the immediate news, i think they brought up good perspectives and I feel more collected from this convo! Good choice of guests :)

If nothing happened on 7th Oct, will you all be discussing this issue today?

@fokerfakerfuker

7 ай бұрын

that's true. and I suspect that was the intend of Hamas all along. To bring global attention

@Michelle-nm3md

7 ай бұрын

Many evidences are pointing to that. Many hamas fronted propaganda PR is every where. When you have a proper analysis of what’s going on. It could be even more sinister than what you thought.

@mrtransmogrify

7 ай бұрын

I get what u mean. Sadly in human history, a horrible event somehow always has to be the catalyst for decisive action. Sadly.

really appreciate ong's method of explanation at 10:33. He wasn't phrasing it in an imposing/draconian manner, but rather sought to explain and acknowledge that it is a conservative approach. It makes it much easier for Singaporeans to accept it that way.

@Charlie-fs5qk

6 ай бұрын

Yes agreed it does make it much easier for the uneducated to accept that reasoning and swallow this narrative given by the government that aligns with their interests

I think the real issue that wasn't addressed is the COMMUNICATION aspect. How come it is only "respect international law" for one side but when it comes to the other side, suddenly go into specific details of their actions? Why not go into specific details for both?

As a city-state and just a little dot on the world map Singapore govt & PAP always know how to behave geopolitically - Respect from Indonesia 🇮🇩

Let’s live in harmony. Don’t allow foreign matters influence us. I empathise with their plight. Dismissing the rally was a good move by our Govt.

we stand united as a family . no matter what race religion or statues.. and i thank our government for their multiracial harmony policy and law ..

@lsubragr

6 ай бұрын

Mli .o .. oo. I nkn I ©™™

Don’t be over confident that we are a matured society. Overseas players may slip in.

@mamamememoo

7 ай бұрын

Also I’m noticing locals posting pictures and contents on Facebook that are alarming. May they remember our local harmony is crucial. We walk along a fine line and we need to be sensible and exercise commonsense and compassion for our safety & our family and community’s safety

Thank you TDK for having this important podcast amidst this period ❤ it’s very much needed

I deeply sympathise with both the Israelis and Palestinian people. But please don’t allow such rallies. It has nth to do with Singapore and it is hate and fear mongering. If we care so much about them. Donate money and pray for peace, safety or civilians and the release of hostages.

@blissbliss9347

7 ай бұрын

Is we care whichever party, donate to help and pray for them but please do not do not allow the rallies. Most of the angry is on humanity that we could help from donation but not to make a mess in country. It is no need at all to create discomfort to the civilian. Rallies may easily or could simply become violent or crime.

@lemonrand1

7 ай бұрын

Should not force people to take sides.. this issues is between Palestinians and Israelis , other than humanitarian efforts, all others seems laced with religious , political or other vested interest..

Great Convo and ty for hosting it TDK

This is what I love about Singapore and most Singaporeans - rational.

@sitiaishahabdulrahim9423

7 ай бұрын

So those millions of people rallying for palestinians are not rational ?

@sitiaishahabdulrahim9423

7 ай бұрын

Empathy is the more appropriate word

Sigh..this war is going to get far far worse before it gets better. If it ever does. This is not a simple case of black and white and siding with one side or the other like in WW2. This is complicated and complex. For people who are wanting to rant and be pro-one country or another, please don't. I implore you. We have no skin in the game. It is very easy to look at this war on the surface but look deeper into it and it's history and what has led to this. We have no right to judge.

@McPAIKIA

7 ай бұрын

100%, as much as i want to care, i really can't put my side in either position. i think for us singaporeans our main goal should be to maintain stability within our country, that is us doing our part.

Always love Minister Ong way's of explanation.

Ms Faheema is really well spoken!

Thanks for covering this very difficult topic. Nazhath Faheema was also such a great interviewee for this. Her views at 37:00 is perfectly phrased.

This is a very mature discussion. Balanced and informative. Giving each other space. Most important build trust when there is peace so that you can deal with issue when things go bad. Much respect.

Just had a sudden realisation. Would a normal working class singaporean working long hours just to pay the bill really care or be bothered by this issue ? 😢

In my opinion, it is up to individuals who they want to support not for others to tell who we must support

I like how the guests are able to have a proper peaceful talk. This is very different from the heated arguments overseas.

haha salute John and Denise for threading ON FINE GLASS for this episode!

If a question is asked in this way (is Sg a supporter of Israel?), they are projecting a political outcome to the response! Better not to answer someone who poses a question based on politics, whatever nation you support you will be either be loved or hated! I am a supporter of everyone , no matter what their background, hi or low, religious or not, or whatever social/ethnic/education/ etc, who loves everyone equally, who support ideas of peace amongst ALL! And no violence at all for whatever reasons!

A sensible conversation on a very complicated subject kudos.............🤔

The Palestine-Israel issue will never be solved, as long as injustice, greed and zealotry exists in that part of the world. Peace exist only when children are taught love and compassion.

Didn't a Malaysian politician just recently said that Singapore belonged to Malaysia and should be returned? Soooo according to him Singaporeans are living on occupied land now? same same but different?

@anchored555

7 ай бұрын

Conveniently ignoring the fact that the Sultan and Temenggong of Johore ceded Singapore to the British East India Company in exchange for a lump sum of money, raised allowances and permission to live on land set aside for them in SG. So can I sell you my car, receive payment for it, and then demand the car back?

@sitiaishahabdulrahim9423

7 ай бұрын

That depends on how far u go back in history.....israel claims the land is theirs based on 2000 yrs of history and the whole world just lapped it all up.

@sitiaishahabdulrahim9423

7 ай бұрын

100 yrs ago , there was no Israel..... 2000 yrs ago , sg was part of the malay kingdom....see? Our view will be affected by our internal biases.....except the one who is able to put aside personal interests and put the truth in the forefront . He who fears loss of worldly materials will see the israel - palestin issue differently from he who fears God ie Seekers of truth.

@anchored555

7 ай бұрын

If you go back far enough in history, the Malays apparently came from the Yunnan region in SW China and the Orang Asli arrived in the Malay peninsula before they did. Who are the rightful owners of the land then? If you go far back enough in time, we were all migrants. As for who the land of Israel belongs to, Islam, Judaism and Christianity may have different answers. Yet each believes they are right.

@dancingspeed

6 ай бұрын

@@sitiaishahabdulrahim9423 There was Israel though. It's called the Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Juddah. c. 1047 BCE-930 BCE. Jews have always been in that piece of land even before Islam began. This piece of land went through a series of different rulers that brought many different religions and culture to that area. "Palestinians" (Possibly a mix of Jews/Christians/Muslims) during that time would have been very different from the Palestinians (Muslim majority) today. People in that region became Muslim when kingdoms like the Ottoman Empire/Arab Empires carried out Islamic invasions to expand their kingdom. On the other hand, Palestine has never been an independent state/ kingdom. Even if British didn't designate that land as Israel, it would have been an area under Egypt/Jordan etc. The state of Palestine would not have existed either way.

WWI and WWII begins in Europe far away from us but the whole world are affected, so even though this happen far away from us we still to be aware and educate ourselves and cannot afford to say since it does not affect us we just ignore it.

We stand together as one no matter what

i would like them comeback again and do this kind of discussion again.. let's see if they'll change some opinions

I feel that this is quite balanced and a very singaporean ways of viewing world events. I think it's only right for singaporeans and to view this issue not as a religious or race issue but as a Human to human issue.

@fearghalbarry7866

6 ай бұрын

What does this even mean? Israel is waging a war of ethnic cleansing on the people of Gaza, collectively sticking your head in the sand helps no one.

@bigbirdturkey

6 ай бұрын

I disagree. It's a religious war, it has always been, one. "Kill the Jews" the Hzebolah said.

Great respect for the guests! So articulate, neutral and well put

Moving forward Spore need to look at the context of the conflicts while voicing condemnation to the all aggressions regardless of any sides! This will allow us to better understand the overall situation to find a viable solution to this issue!

Thank you Nazath Faheema for mentioning the Baha'i Faith at 29:49. The Holy Land is important to Jews, Muslims, Christians, but also the Baha'i Faith, which has its spiritual and administrative centre in Haifa. When I lived in Singapore, the Baha'is there were (and still are) very active in the Interfaith movement there.

While we want to be polically correct, we don't have to be an Arab or a Muslim to understand what is actually happening in Gaza now. We just need to be human.

@huaiwei

7 ай бұрын

And one needs to be reminded also that the other Abrahamic faiths have equal rights to stick to their believes, and hence influence their stances on this issue. This is the real and unspoken reason why we officially choose to be neutral.

@pikk2525

7 ай бұрын

So Hamas is inhumane .. thanks

@razalihusain

6 ай бұрын

Definitely, it is wrong to support Apartheid.

@anchored555

6 ай бұрын

Apartheid? Arab Israelis serve in the Israeli parliament, judiciary etc. Any Jews serving in legislatures/judiciary in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and other Arab countries?

Singapore do not support any war against civillian or terrorism regardless. We have always uphold peace, support in our small ways we are able to as a small nation. We are also struggling ourselves. Instead, look at what more powerful countries can do better to help.

@huaiwei

7 ай бұрын

We don't support a war against terrorism? Eh?

very nice conversation..

I admire Singaporeans' absolute clarity and cohesive and logically organised thoughts. Allowing for space for intellectual discourse.

Interesting open discussion on issues that affect us as a multi-religious, cultural n racial organisation

Great 😊 podcast Very informative Praying for peace

Good convo

As I read through the comments, I'm starting to get worried about how high emotions and tensions are rising. Both parties are getting very heated. Please remember to stay civil people!!!! I must say, I thank Daily Ketchup for hosting this talk. I think it gives much clarification on the government stance.

literally not our problem, but various groups (including foreign actors) want to drag Singapore into the political conflict which may end up with serious consequences for all Singaporeans absolutely nonsensical that the government have to make a statement on this, and continue to make statements on the international stage concerning other countries they should stfu, and only advocate international guidelines and law

@yut576

7 ай бұрын

The Palestinian-Israel conflict is not just a political one, but it has a religious dimension. One of Islam's holy sites, Al-Aqsa Mosque and many Palestinians are Muslims, making this conflict a very raw and passionate one. Already, the PAP government is viewed as practising a double standard toward Malay Muslims. Hence, the banning of rallies and prayers at SG mosque for Palestinians - makes the swing voters not happy. PAP need to tread carefully if they want to stay in power.

@raydontan1301

7 ай бұрын

yasiaa and a lot of locals kept blaming tharman for sending israel a condolence letter… so many of them are looking at the current war in a micro perspective which can backfire into a big issue 🗿🗿

@anchored555

7 ай бұрын

It is very wise of our government not to allow rallies of any kind supporting either side of the conflict because this is a very emotional and controversial matter that can easily inflame ethnic/religious sentiments, as we have seen happening elsewhere around the world, resulting in social unrest and ethnic/religious strife which can damage the peace and social harmony we enjoy here.

*Regardless of race, language or religion. To build a democratic and society. Based on justice and equality. So we as to achieve. Happiness, prosperity, and progress for our nation*

Pleasantly surprised at the balanced outlook .

You all singaporean must forgot is was isreal who help our military when nobody wanna help us when we became independent 58 years ago. And this kindness is rooted deep within the country.

@jefri4176

7 ай бұрын

As much as Singapore want to thank Israel and support them,Singapore have muslim citizen who empathize with Palestine. And Singapore also have 2 big neighbours who are crazy about Palestine. So for the sake of Singapore safety,they have no choice to be neutral. Singapore have lots investment in Indonesia,and at the moment Indonesian are fanatics hypocrites who boycott those who supports Israel, namely McD and Starbucks and etc but these hypocrites still use Google,apple ,Facebook and KZread even though they know google and apple support Israel 🤣🤣🤣

@MrTakoyaki1992

7 ай бұрын

But that should also not be a free-pass to say "Oh, Isreal is good friend, help us Bulid Army, Therefore please continue with your Genocide spree"

@samkwok7057

7 ай бұрын

I didn’t say continue genocide. This is xwar. What do you expect? Tell enemy we are coming? And I think isreal is the only nation to notify civilians to move as they are coming in hot. Which nation do this as of today? And imagine some enemy came to our country and, do what they did on Oct 7 Would us just sit back and use diplomacy or fight back?

@kohakuarai

7 ай бұрын

I also agree, if we see our friend doing wrong is it not the right thing to call him out so that he does not stray further from the right path? @@MrTakoyaki1992

@HelloHello-qf3ui

7 ай бұрын

@samkwok7057 Totally agreed with you bro. I'm so thankful for Israel for helping us back in the days. All our neighboring countries bullied us cos we are small without defence. Without them, Singapore cant achieved independence and reached where we are today!

We Singapore were mentioned by many journalists covering the wars in Israel, that the world can be a much much better place if people can live like us..peacefully when there are tolerant towards each other.

Thank you Ms Faheema for your views. My understanding that you express so well as a Singaporean and all the more as a Muslim. One have the right to defend one country (not pointing on Hamas but on the humanities kind) The Israeli want all the Palestinian to move to the south-as a Singaporean mindset I'll stay put to where I am because this is my country and I've the liberty to move around the country as I wish

@huaiwei

6 ай бұрын

"The Israeli want all the Palestinian to move to the south". Eh? Where did that come from?

@tanimaju5446

6 ай бұрын

QS 9 : 29 Fight against those ( jews and non muslim) who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah1 willingly while they are humbled.

Thank you for the video. We keep hearing about the "two state solution" as the best, but since 1947 it has yet to happen. When it does, for how long? Why do we think the UN has a solution? Remember Korea? That's an example of a two-state solution but with the same people on different ideology. It was the same for Vietnam until 1975. Fast forward to current situation, one side calls for driving J from the rivers to the seas, the other, we can live together but we don't really trust you, hence we need securities. We did hear from the 22 Big Brothers around the region that started war in 1948 and several later wars but have never together say - "enough of war, we made a grave mistake back than and we need to start new for the children and their children future, the people of P for lasting peace". That's a 23-state solution, but do they want it?

SYABAS. Singapore and for not being racist wonderful talk I love Singapore u AL r great citizens of Singapore may god bles Singapore n ta citizens TQ. PARVATHI. MALAYSIA

Really appreciate the discussion here, no posturing and all the guests were sensitive and sincere. Wanted to show my appreciation to Ms Faheema for what she does, she sounds really sincerein promoting interfaith harmony. I get the feeling that she's really trying to work towards a more cohesive and understanding multicultural and multifaith society, which is precisely what Singapore needs.i sure hope that the two state solution can be realised in this generation's lifetime, and the constant cycle of hate and distrus will somehow be broken.

before 1 wants to give opinion to not be bias is by going both sides and look at the situation .. or even research.. we thank LKY for ensuring law is uphold for citizens no matter what race or religion .. we are treated humanly basic rights,housing,healthcare and security ..

@chiakum

7 ай бұрын

As you mentioned LKY 1960s onwards we have been facing threats from our neighbours - Konfrontasi, water issue, Pedra Branca dispute, airspace dispute etc

That's why me a Singaporean. Me loving All Nations❤

No, they just choose sides,which sides will gives them most of advantages.

Agree that every country has the right of self defence. But not disproportionately

@AishaBAbuBakrXZaynabBJahsh

7 ай бұрын

disproportionate due to hamas being too embedded with the society such as buiding tunnels below public buildings and on the ground, within public compounds mainly hospitals.

@lecherhao86

7 ай бұрын

How do you measure disproportionately then? If my parents and family get killed, would I care whether my shooting kill more than the number on my side is killed? I think this issue is like arguing in a philosophy class. There might not even be a morally right answer at all? I feel that as Singaporean, we can agree to disagree and shouldn't let this matter affect our stability and harmony.

@fokerfakerfuker

7 ай бұрын

@@AishaBAbuBakrXZaynabBJahsh Gaza is the size of Taipei with over 2 million population. I don't see how Hamas could actually build around the civilian structures, even if they had intended to

@musico3415

7 ай бұрын

Hamas do not love their own civilians yet expect their enemies to love Gaza civilians. Hamas baked babies in oven, raped mothers, humiliated their captives even in death. To them, they are not interested in have two-states peace but the death of all Jews in the world, not just in Israel. Watch what the son of Hamas disclosed at kzread.info/dash/bejne/maBpsbGpc6m7c9Y.htmlsi=Qw6iJyhQXJqPaFH8

@octville

7 ай бұрын

Disproportionality is a figment of subjective imagination. It transcends beyond body counts. No justification can be made when terror against civilians are involved. International laws allow countries the right to defend themselves as long as the aim is to bring peace in the end. Hamas has no goals in mind except to terrorise and cause fear and mayhem. Israel’s intention is to get rid of Hamas an actor in this equation

WILL RESPONDING TO EVIL BY DOING MORE EVIL LEAD TO A TWO STATE SOLUTUON?

I love Singapore stance; it means they are resealable and stand for justice. Let's condemn what is bad irrespective of religion and make the World a better place to live.

Idf carpet bombing thousands of civilians is not an act of terrorism ?

Saya sebagai rakyat Malaysia sangat kagum dgn sikap matang dan pemikiran rasional speaker podcast ini. Kita rakyat malaysia masih jauh ketinggalan dlm hal sebegini. Maklum lah MP kita yg kelulusan PhD pun tak tau beza hubungan lim kit siang & "lim" kuan yew 😂😂

Question for minister Ong: How does the Singapore goverment define Zionism? I asked this because I come across different definitions of zionism out there and it is an element in this conflict. The outcome I want is peace for all goups through understanding zionism in Singapore.

List of Offshore Platform in Palestine 1. NOA Gas Field 2. Mari Conventional Gas Field 3. Tamar Gas Field 4. Leviathan Gas Field 5. Dalit Gas Field 6. Sara and Myra Gas Field 7. Tanin Conventional Gas Field 8. Dolphin Oil & Gas Field (2011) These are some of the oil and gas fields in the Palestine, which hold significant reserves and play a crucial role in the energy resources of the region. Yet, the operators are Israel, US and UK. None of the profit goes to the Palestinian people.

Two state solution is a tough one as long as people in Gaza cannot visit family in West Bank and vice versa. Tough if Jerusalem will always be a contending factor. Peace is inevitable if we keep drawing on the past. Both countries share the same land now and they need to co-exist without one infringing on the other especially forcefully. Clear boundaries were drawn before and they must be respected. In fact, both sides have strengths which they can draw on and work together much like we work together with our neighbours. Many Palestinians in fact, work in Israel through officially issued work visas. Peace would be hard to achieve as long as the leaders of both countries don’t want it. So whatever has been written in charters or strategies must be changed. Whoever is leading both countries has to be held accountable and responsible.

23:29 Hamas is not designated as a terrorist entity by the UN, and in 2018, the UN General Assembly rejected a US proposal condemning Hamas activities in Gaza.

@anchored555

7 ай бұрын

Hamas has been designated a terrorist organisation by the U.S. and the EU.

@Johnstone415

6 ай бұрын

After Oct 7 attack, when ordinary civilians were killed, even those Thai workers and Arab workers, is that a terrorist act? Please don't bring innocent people into war.

People talk about isreal having the right to defend themselves but what about the attacks on Palestine since 75 years ago? Why condemn Hamas only and never addressed the 75 years of violence made by isreal? The world is enraged because of the blatant biasness against humanity.

It is not a religious conflict. Its the right for the natives to defend their rights. Most people start the history on 7th October, and it is a simpler but erronous story. If you understood the many years of brutalization of the Palestinians by the Israelis on a daily basis and ongoing now, then its a different story. For this reason there is a lot of misinformation and omission of vital facts. It is a settler colonisation as is USA where the natives have been subject to a genocide. This is your opportunity to learn more about the injustice of the world, and how it is carried out. Its easy to point to terrorist groups, but then you would be suppressing the real truth and reality. Its a short term action, brushing the serious details under the carpet. A society can mature and be more cohesive if they had an opportunity to develop their understanding and to be in public to rally the injustice. In USA we have whites, blacks, jews and palestinians protesting against the war crimes. Killing more then 5000 children is a war crime.

❤Singaporean are one people and one nation in singapore❤👍we are one as one united people in singapore👍👍So as to achieve prosperity and progress in our nation.👍❤❤❤

Unfortunately, many Singaporeans are uninformed about the Palestine/Israel issue and only became aware of it after the event on October 7th. Some may claim to understand the historical background of Palestine and Israel, but I believe these individuals could be considered pseudo-experts. Some might solely believe and unquestionably follow the government's position. I think it is crucial to conduct thorough research before making statements such as advocating for neutrality. There are numerous Jewish historians and scholars, including Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein, and many others, who oppose Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. For a better understanding of why people are protesting and the significance of taking a side, documentaries by Jewish/Israeli directors such as 'Tantura' and 'Life in Occupied Palestine' by Anna Baltzer will help you understand better. Hope this helps! Cheers!

@Johnstone415

6 ай бұрын

Educate me about the one day war. I heard that when Israel was formed, as in declared independent and given the land by the British or UN after ww2, within one day 5 other neighbouring states attacked them. And that led to Israel winning and also gaining more land. were those countries correct and what reasons?

@hihi22ify

6 ай бұрын

Think you should be one who should be educated

in the end is peace on both sides

😂😂😂😂😂 Peace no come easily 😮😮 Treasures our harmony ❤❤❤

Finally some semblance of a knowledgeable discussion... Tiktok live netizens trashing Minister Lawrence when he was addressing Parliament, with troll comments will be the death of me... I hope more locals realise that this issue is a multifaceted one and before we go about opening our mouths to condemn our government left and right.... do your own research and think... if you were a minister of a country that is an outsider looking in, what would you do to safeguard the nations security. PS: Im not some hardcore PAP supporter, just gotta speak facts yo

Countries have taken sides, others are divided, some where the people and government are not aligned. A conflict that can divide not just a nation but an entire world while Singapore just carries on with it's own quiet life. 👍

It may seem simple, give them what they want, is it that simple? Giving side is clear of its intention to give, but on the other hand, how the receiver interpret the give can be complex because it depends on the receiver's mentality.

Should Be Considered UN Resolution 242 too.

Internal Cohesion is very important

It’s okay Singapore!

Like it or not, the events will move towards an inexorable end. You want to know what's the end? Go and read up....

Seriously I don’t really like to touch and talk about such topics mainly because we aren’t the real victims of the war or conflict. Picking a stand means either side’s victim lives don’t matter? It’s all about politics and dragged the innocent lives at stake which Im very opposed about. Media wants us pick a side but can’t we don’t?

We should not take peace for granted. Look at the european countries and how a particular ideology disrupts and brings chaos to the streets. We can learn many lessons from this.

@harunashura1216

6 ай бұрын

What ideology?

@fearghalbarry7866

6 ай бұрын

@@harunashura1216 Pretty clear he is an Islamophobe.

How are we able to discuss such matters when KZread restricts our freedom of speech?

@anchored555

6 ай бұрын

Yes, it’s very annoying

We all can hold to our own opinion but one thing matter, human lives matter. Also the question you didn't ask.... if we sanction russia, and block junta myanmar with rules from joining ASEAN table, why there is no sanction against Israel? Why diff eh?

Malaysian warching the discussion here😊,rest assured i just observed.

Israelis are attacking their own countrymen, the Palestinians ethic group that is part of Israel. The point of self defense doesn’t quite apply.

Singapore should pick a stance with the innocents who fell victim in this conflict..both israeli and palestinians. The politics that caused this war is truly beyond inhuman.

My heart goes to the people of oppressed and occupied , give their home back… 🤍🕊️🍉

Somehow I think both sides can see the way forward is to co-exist in peace bt has issues with trust and deceit... in other words, when one side commits to peace, how does the other side know it is not a ruse

I really like the dude in the green t-shirt. He asked GREAT questions (that no one could answer ) : “What is Israel supposed to do when it’s fighting terrorists who imbed themselves in civilian infrastructure ( hospitals, schools, etc. ) ?

@MiaReduce

7 ай бұрын

Totally agree. His questions are spot on but non of the guests could answer. Very little was talked about the oppressed and more to wellbeing of Singapore. It shows where the gov stand in this situation. We are privileged enough to sit back and tell fellow Singaporeans to be ‘grateful’ but being grateful doesn’t mean you need to stand back and just watch. Why would i be grateful if its in the expense of others?

@madamcuriouss

6 ай бұрын

if you asked propalestinians theyll say do nothing :x

@whyh

6 ай бұрын

@@MiaReduce expense of who? Singapore is not built by Palestinians.

@kamarulabdulkarim8166

6 ай бұрын

And the answer is to kill thousand of innocent civilian including children, woman, sick and elderly ? how pathetic...

@wshyangify

6 ай бұрын

​@@MiaReduceWhat are you gonna do about it? If you feel so strongly about it flights to Gaza are still available on Singapore Airlines.

We aren't Pro Israel We are neutral and don't forget we are a small island

I lived in Singapore for several years. One incident I was told happened shortly after Singapore became independent, and for a brief time, was amalgamated into Malaysia. There was a riot of the Muslim minority in Singapore that became violent. The authorities ask the Malaysian government to send in troops to quell the riots. The predominantly Muslim government of Malaysia, DID send in troops...BUT...they didn't quell the riots of the Muslim minority...they started killing the ethnic Chinese living in Singapore, INSTEAD! The Muslim governments of Malaysia and Indonesia have a HISTORY of attacking and killing the sizeable ethnic Chinese minority in those countries. That is the reason, when Singapore was kicked out of the Malaysian state they developed their own, sizeable, military infrastructure, that they continue to maintain to this day.

Btw hope indon n sg continue to keep our skies haze free ❤

During the recent of the UNGA meeting,how did Singapore vote Pro,against or abstain?

@leongkhaiweng61

7 ай бұрын

We voted for a humanitarian ceasefire.

You betcha

Dun import foreign battles into Singapore. You can sympathise. But it is ultimately nothing to do with us.

3:24 she’s so right