i’m gonna be honest i thought it was gonna be spider man teaching me about Muhammad, but this is wonderful.

@xTH14x

Жыл бұрын

On his podcast they make sometimes make that joke.

@redwave5268

Жыл бұрын

Me too, ✋🏽guilty

@ablahablah7063

Жыл бұрын

Bruh 😂

@christopherross8358

Жыл бұрын

Would be an interesting career move for him...

@bak6194

Жыл бұрын

They kinda sound the same?

Dear Mr. Holland , i will try to be just and subjective and I will ask some questions: you made it to the desert of Wadi Rum in Jordan 🇯🇴 met some bedouins and heard from them about Islam, but never met some well known scholars in Jordan like Dr. Zaghlol AlNajjar , Dr. Mohammad Nouh and many others who would definitely enlighten you about your inquiries, why? One hour and 11 minutes I saw 4 people talking about Mohammad and kept saying “I do not know” as an answer for most of your questions and comments, are you convinced that you interviewed the right people? What are you trying to tell us here? Do you think that this work had been produced based on a proper scientific research? I need answers please!!!!

@JoeAse

4 жыл бұрын

Check my comment above

@halaassi4431

4 жыл бұрын

You’ll never get the answer cause this was made to make us Muslims look bad to justify the occupation of Palestine simple as that

@mamamarianovits9029

4 жыл бұрын

Search out who Tom Holland is, his scholarly accolades and his stance on religion/ideology and find he has no agenda, he simply goes where the actual evidence leads... not simply relying on the islamic insistence of a history with no archeological evidence to back it up.

@ichnemesis6832

4 жыл бұрын

He has written a book as well, the perusal of which , ought to be a more oppurtune correspondence.

@vkumar1170

4 жыл бұрын

what you consider "enlightening" is merely evasive answers.

This was an eye opener meaning that we generally have to dig for answers if we are expected to accept and believe in anything. I found this video to be good , objective. But there is still a long way to go in looking for answers and I pray that we as humans get at least some of those answers, personally I don’t judge which is right or wrong, only to be able to find peace for at least myself. This video might or might not be it but it’s good to know there are efforts being made .

ITS EASIER TO DECEIVE THE MASSES THAN IT IS TO CONVINCE THE MASSES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DECEIVED.

@MARINVIEW

4 жыл бұрын

Yousef Ghaneemah this vid is total Islamophobia

@mamindhive

4 жыл бұрын

Your statement contradicts itself, not si wise are you

@rickyelvis5986

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Losey ... bullshit beats the truth every time ... shame 👀

@rickyelvis5986

4 жыл бұрын

DreamsIntoReality ... can’t spell so ?

@mamindhive

4 жыл бұрын

ricky elvis typo smartie, got nothing to do with my spelling.

Thank you for posting I enjoyed watching it love seeing all the places you filmed at loved the old film footage

@Akrammfk

3 жыл бұрын

what about the informations you stupid fuck

@nemesis1291

2 жыл бұрын

@@Akrammfk manners please.

@RealRandomVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@nemesis1291 sadly that’s not written in THE BOOK!

@muhammadjibran8239

10 ай бұрын

Propoganda video .... Proves nothing apart from ignoring archeological, physical , written, verbal and historical facts. Even a 12 year old can get his history straight

Stories that never happened can be infinitely more powerful than stories that did.

@auhmav04

4 ай бұрын

which stories 'never' happened?

@mightyhabib1182

4 ай бұрын

​@@auhmav04 most of that 1 houe clip! Mohammad wasn't really a prophet of Allah! The whole thing is designed to stop the Arab world from imploding. What part of it is hard to understand? Faith is different to fact 🤷‍♂️

@fatcrruise6508

4 ай бұрын

the same with mormon..

@doronbarzilay590

4 ай бұрын

or any religion@@fatcrruise6508

@username13500

4 ай бұрын

And what's your evidence?​@@mightyhabib1182

I read Holland's book, "Dominion"....what an incredible book.

@ulakudla

4 ай бұрын

"in the shadow of the sword" is also amazing and is focused on the rise of Islam.

@jakemaxwell3810

4 ай бұрын

Wow, I just got that one recently and had no idea it was the same guy. Very cool. I will have to look into him more.

@KevinoftheCosmos

Ай бұрын

I'm going to seek this book out. Tom Holland is fantastic.

The cinematography is just pure transcendence

@n00g75

2 ай бұрын

well .. looks like a normal TV style documentary to me. not to say its bad .. but transcendant? well ok .. each to its own!

Am i the only one who thought Tom Holland from Spiderman was somehow involve in the documentary?

@chafikrabai646

4 жыл бұрын

No you re not the only one hhhhhhh

@Atlas.Valiants

4 жыл бұрын

Hhhhh

@wenwu-xu

4 жыл бұрын

@@chafikrabai646 second!

@alfredomartinez2704

4 жыл бұрын

Manuel Valencia you are right Allah may fit as the Spiderweb of the Quran comics

@shatylee4807

4 жыл бұрын

because he's got mosquito nose he's not spiderman

I am not a Muslim. However, studying extensively that religion and its history, it seems Dr. Holland tip toed around Islamic references that documented extensively the period he is examining. Our understanding would be very poor if we ignored early Christian historians and commentators. In the corpus of what is written by Muslim historians are also records of scientific knowledge, literature, philosophical ideas, theological analysis, etc. that enriched our world to this day. The views of the film are very limited to satisfy a certain audience not an academic one.

@riponsarowar7688

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Orientalism in a nutshell.

@Sakinah768

9 ай бұрын

Well said, I also find it weird that some have knowledge about how Islam spread and that there is a story about it.

@paulheydarian1281

9 ай бұрын

Your assumption being that an academic audience's satisfaction should be the primary goal of this or any documentary. Keep in mind that Jews and Christians thought of early Islam as a dangerous cult. Most of them didn't have anything positive to say about it; similar to how many American Baptists and Protestant Evangelicals view Mormonism.

@cedricroney1475

9 ай бұрын

What sources exist during that time?

@paulheydarian1281

9 ай бұрын

@@cedricroney1475 Highly unreliable, highly biased sources. People weren't concerned with accuracy in the past. They were more interested in telling tall tales and BSing their way, becuz humans are attention seekers. In essence, not much has changed. Humans were and have remained unreliable, baised sources. It may be the way our brains are wired.

I like the ridley Scott sounding eerie when he questions things

Change of the qibla (Arabic: تحويل القبلة) is the event in which the qibla of Muslims (direction of performing some rituals) was redirected from al-Aqsa mosque, in Bayt al-Maqids (Jerusalem), to the Ka'ba (in Mecca). The event occurred in Rajab, 2/January, 624, after the revelation of al-Qibla Verse. According to the majority of historiographers, the change of qibla occurred in Masjid al-Qiblatayn in Medina in the middle of the noon prayer. One interesting point about the redirection of the qibla is how people turned in the middle of a congregational prayer to over 160 degrees.

ITS NOT THE EYES THAT IS BLIND BUT THE HEARTS

@mrjean9376

9 ай бұрын

Abdol denying their own holy book, go read ur own qoran to prove it by ur self

@oxygen759

9 ай бұрын

​@@mrjean9376he didn't say anything to offend you , and why are you even angry ?

@dimasnarendrarafifpurwanto

8 ай бұрын

​@@alaao82is grandson is only 2 wdym

@batoulbahjat3873

8 ай бұрын

​@@alaao82 IM SAYING

@batoulbahjat3873

8 ай бұрын

​@@dimasnarendrarafifpurwanto lmao

This guy encountered some of the same things I encountered. In the end, islam betrayed itself to me as a parasitic system of philosophy that rests on two main pillars; political and religious. It feeds off what it has conquered. There's nothing remarkable about it worthy of our admiration.

@vmx5111

4 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering if Tom Holland is still alive or has been taken out!

@zainiabdullah621

4 жыл бұрын

Truth will prevail and falsehood demonish as it is the nature of falsehood to demonish itself. Despite what you may say, insult what you may, debase what you may think about ISLAM, curse what you may of its sacred book and its Prophet ... yet it is the fastest growing belief system in the world today ! Open your eyes, your heart and your mind and contemplate why is it so ?!

@douglasthompson7464

4 жыл бұрын

the same can be said about any institutional relgion

@watchgoose

4 жыл бұрын

@Quentin Dunn cite references. Plus, devils/demons are separate created entities from humans. Do your homework.

@watchgoose

4 жыл бұрын

It is no longer what Mohammed envisioned. Remember he brought the people back from polytheism to the One True God, the God of Abraham, which Jews and Christians also accept. When he wrote the Quran, he said not to write anything else down, even if he said it. Yet, after his death, power-seeking MEN wrote down the Hadiths, traditions, against Mohammed's will - just like the Jews wrote down the Talmud, which is NOT Scriptural. Both Jews and Arabs descended from Abraham and both are Semites as they came from Noah's son Shem.

Maybe he should look in some of the Ancient Chinese accounts and writings in their ancient history. The Chinese were trading in that area and even with the Romans through various tribal Merchants including Arabs and desert peoples etc from very Ancient times. The Chinese may have some interesting writings about these Arabs and early Islam peoples/religions/practices. Chinese were always guarding their border lands against invaders, they had many tribal vassal states as well so the Chinese were great historians and record keepers, they are sure to have accounts worth reviewing.

@malin5468

3 ай бұрын

By the 8th century or earlier Chinese ceramics were exported to Egypt and Western Asia, and of course much silk was exported to the Roman and Byzantine empires. I don’t remember when the first reference to Islam occurs in Chinese sources, although members of the Sassanian royal family fled to China after their defeat by the Arabs. I The Battle of Talas in around 750 was when the Chinese and Arab armies first encountered each other. The Arabs won.

@edmurks236

3 ай бұрын

@@malin5468 Thanks for that , what did they win? Did they win against the Mongols?

@malin5468

3 ай бұрын

@@edmurks236 The Arab Abbasid empire was expanding east and the Chinese expanding westward. There is a description in Wikipedia. You can Google it.

@mikefitzpatrick43

3 ай бұрын

@@edmurks236 that was before the Mongols i believe

@edmurks236

3 ай бұрын

@@mikefitzpatrick43 Ok but did the Islam army ever fight the Mongols? I must research it.

Profound.... so much to learn, process and understand. Nice balance in providing content and context for consideration. Excellent video for those reasons...well done sir.

@abal6671

8 күн бұрын

Emotionally driven and unbiased way of researching, if you have at least bothered yourself to look the prophet wasn’t at all a bedouin or nomad neither were most of his companions, but you needed that image to strengthen your argument and belittling the subject. I’m not even discussing the topic of the prophet lifestyle and history recordings which are authenticated throughout a strictly scientific standards more than any previous nation even more detailed than the history of America which almost a century later and i can give you all the resources and evidences you need . Me not the bedouins of Jordan whom they had nothing to do the prophet’s life. Don’t make a joke of yourself speaking of science yet desperately misleading the audience

They were only allowed to show this once in the UK, because of massive protests from Muslims. So I can only recommend "In the Shadow of the Sword" by Tom Holland, that is the book he basically are "advertising" for here, to get the full story of what he gives the "headlines" for here. (I've read it probably 4-5 times!)

@AFGsultanZ

7 ай бұрын

This video also has been refuted by scholars and historians as well. He seems to be more ignorant and close minded to bother to look further more research.

@Raydensheraj

6 ай бұрын

​@@AFGsultanZLet me guess....rEfUtEd by highly biased Islamic lunatics that present some idiotic philosophical mumbo jumbo without ANY material historical evidence.... The Aisha story alone shows that Islam is just another stone age delusional cult....of course the prophet had to be an Arab lol😂 As stupid as the virgin born resurrection ascension white Jesus or the circus show gods of Hinduism. Alone this anthropomorphic and cultural stupidity of these abrahamic religions make them so stupid....can only shake my head in disgust.

@Quijote-Salvaje

5 ай бұрын

​@@AFGsultanZ The video was refuted by scholars by using taqquiya

@thatswhatshesaid.literally737

5 ай бұрын

Incredible! The supposed "religion of peace" censoring through threats and civil unrest any bad press or uncomfortable facts about the religion's history. Tsk tsk, muslims...

@TheSunship777

5 ай бұрын

@@Quijote-Salvaje yes the outer or exterior Islam will always be at odds and miss some of the key points as well

Radical islam is the snake..moderate Islam is the grass.

@SDeww

4 жыл бұрын

exactly they are all moderate in public, but that is only to keep up appearances!.... once you get too many of them they show their true colors, and than it is too late!. its a cult that brain washes people, and the earlier the better!.

@zainiabdullah621

4 жыл бұрын

The War Between Light and Darkness. "The war of Light and Darkness sounds well, but in this post-Freudian world, men realize that the Darkness ascribed to one's enemies is a projection of the Darkness in oneself that is not fully admitted. So in this way the distorted image of ISLAM is to be regarded as a projection of the shadow side of European Man." [Prof.(Reverend) William Montgomerry Watt in his "Influence of Islam in Medieval Europe" page 83].

@wayupnorth9420

4 жыл бұрын

Islam is out to kill all non-Muslims.

@mhogomchungu7168

4 жыл бұрын

@@wayupnorth9420 then how do they get more Muslims on their side ? Manufacturing them

@eddiej9745

4 жыл бұрын

excellent analogy

the question that has been repeated since the beginning is " how do we know it was like that?" this question applies to all religions and all old historical events; we are sure of nothing unless we look carefully where we need to

@niconine268

5 ай бұрын

Correct. Merely narratives & motives until the reality is maybe revealed. All mankind is like this. What would miraculously set this people apart or make them immune. God ? Truthfully...what is that anyway ? Monotheism - corruption & divisiveness. Convenient really.

@StRaphael-we9qn

5 ай бұрын

Hi there, there have been thousands of canonised Saints and Miracles performed by God's Mother Mary. Faith is a virtue 🙏🏼 ✨️ Please keep safe 😷

@TheTyTyXD

5 ай бұрын

@@StRaphael-we9qn”how do we know it was like that?”

@zarghona7491

5 ай бұрын

@@TheTyTyXDcan you pick up Quran and just read it? It will answer your questions. Not sure where you living. You might be able to Google one for free in a Quran will be shipped to you you will find the answer. How do you know if it’s true what you asked thank you.

@leonardoferrari4852

5 ай бұрын

​@@zarghona7491The quran is one of the last places we need to look in. All that nonsense about flying donkeys and the such. It does shed light on muhammad killing jews and raping children tho

So much internal repetition. Seems each scene and clip is reused three or four or more times in the course of the flick. Could be edited down to 20 min. or less with no loss of content.

After a while in I couldn’t wait to read the comments, wasn’t disappointed

Do you have more research on it? Would be interesting to watch or read.

Is the lack of historical evidence right after the life of Mohammed more to do with the schism in leadership (Sunni vs Shia) rather than how Tom portrays it as an unknown? He never really touched on that in any great detail.

I lived in The Kindom of Saudi Arabia for just over 3 years as a civilian just After Retiring from the United States Air Force Feb 28, 1994. My story starts with the Gulf War of Desert Storm for which i was originaly assigned to deploy from Okinawa in Dec 1990 to Jeddah, KSA (Kindom of Saudi Arabia). But i did not deploy until just before the end of Desert Storm and the beginning of Desert Calm to Riyahd, KSA. And then Returning to Okinawa in July 1991 after having deployed to Daharahn, KSA. Now fast forward to my civilian time living in Jeddah, KSA. working for Lockheed/Martin on the Royal Saudi Airforce Base in Jeddah from Dec. 1995- Feb. 1999. Having experienced life living in the Kindom of Saudi Arabia these years is just as confusing to myself as it is now to all of you in this documentary.

@OdonLafontaine

6 ай бұрын

what confused you lilving there? and what's the connection with this documentary?

@diantonovich

5 ай бұрын

Wow.

@forensicdarling

5 ай бұрын

What was so mysterious about these dates and locations?

@barunto1

3 ай бұрын

You should have saved your keystrokes, you don't say anything.

Man makes his own stories and history for everything else, there is a mystery.

"Stories that never happened; can be infinitely more powerful than stories that did!" 10/10

@cthoadmin7458

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, totally unconstrained by fact.

@prashantsonawane2725

4 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment .. this is 100% true .

@sam-pq2il

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you nailed it.

@knowledge719

Жыл бұрын

Are you a historian lol, don't talk about something you don't know honey😂😂

@mmusthas9085

Жыл бұрын

Jesus crucified on cross for your sins never happened,but this story more powerful enough to fool Entire European & American continent 😢✌

last 15 min was good example of how to be genuine and honorable, unbiased researcher/scholar

A god that cannot talk to his own creations himself and needs messengers is not worth worshipping. That’s my position on all religions.

I can`t believe that Tom hasn`t mentioned Medina throughout this documentary, even though all of the Korans surahs are divided into the Meccan(surahs that were revealed anytime before the migration or the Hijra) and the Medinan suras, that are those supposed revelations that occurred after the migration to the city of that name. Mecca is(and was I suppose) barren, while Medina IS much greener, with fertile soil to grow fruits and vegetables.

@strongwater7814

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@alialmunguy316

Жыл бұрын

Precisely, Tom Holland's idea is that if Islam was passed off as having appeared in Medina or in another place close to Jewish and Christian influences, that would make Islam less original and there would be nothing miraculous to convert to him. Presenting Islam as being born in the depths of the Sahara far from any religious influence would give more credit to this religion as being a divine revelation.

@TheObscureRambler

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't fit the descriptions, however. It has no olive trees, for instance - how do you explain that?

@TheObscureRambler

Жыл бұрын

@@alialmunguy316 it would, if it were. However, all you need to do is do some source criticism to rule that out.

@khamisjay488

Жыл бұрын

He came to this study with an attitude there's nothing he gone get. He doesn't even know the surahs are devided into two and goes ahead as far as Israel to place the context of the Quran SMH!

Some say Tom is still searching for the answer

10 min of drama followed by a simple statement. Rinse and repeat. This could be 15 min long if it weren't for all tge filler

I pray for Peace….and the Truth to be known to all! Surely, Truth will set you free! Thanks for the film.

@abal6671

8 күн бұрын

Emotionally driven and unbiased way of researching, if you have at least bothered yourself to look the prophet wasn’t at all a bedouin or nomad neither were most of his companions, but you needed that image to strengthen your argument and belittling the subject. I’m not even discussing the topic of the prophet lifestyle and history recordings which are authenticated throughout a strictly scientific standards more than any previous nation even more detailed than the history of America which almost a century later and i can give you all the resources and evidences you need . Me not the bedouins of Jordan whom they had nothing to do the prophet’s life. Don’t make a joke of yourself speaking of science yet desperately misleading the audience

Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪

What A Great Effort.... Good job Mr. Hollend.... Thank you for every thing....

41:40 where Dan Gibson's idea comes in; Petra in Jordan the original Mecca

no way our spiderman is now a historian, anyway best of luck for your new career bro

@OdonLafontaine

4 ай бұрын

With great power there must also come great responsibility

@ASH9366

Ай бұрын

Legendary 🏆 Word's 🔥

I'm a 62yo Chinese Malaysian teacher. I'm not sure if I gained much from what was intended by Tom. Maybe he's trying to convey the "truth" that there's no historical records or sources. Even historical records of other histories are basically premised on presumptions constructed from sources that are "flawed". My sense is that all history is based on presumptions made from the little information unearthed.

@marianmarkovic5881

Жыл бұрын

He pretty much implicate this,.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZnmV0dKBj6i2lsY.html

@scythermantis

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is steeped in modernist/rationalist assumptions that determine the frame of inquiry

@OneFingerMan

Жыл бұрын

Tom Holland's documentary "Islam: The Untold Story" was heavily criticized by scholars and experts for its numerous inaccuracies and factual errors. One of the most significant inaccuracies was Holland's assertion that there was no archaeological evidence to support the traditional Islamic account of the life of Prophet Muhammad. Holland claimed that no physical evidence of Muhammad's existence or the early Islamic community had been found, and suggested that this was evidence that the traditional Islamic account of Muhammad's life was a later fabrication. However, this claim was widely refuted by scholars and experts. Islamic studies professor Jonathan Brown, for example, wrote in a review of the documentary that Holland's claim "reflects a rather bizarre ignorance of the field of early Islamic history and archaeology." Brown explained that while there is relatively little archaeological evidence from the early Islamic period, there is abundant written evidence from the time that supports the traditional Islamic account of Muhammad's life and the early Islamic community. Other experts also pointed out factual errors in Holland's documentary, such as his claim that the Kaaba in Mecca was originally a Christian shrine, and his suggestion that the early Islamic conquests were primarily motivated by economic gain rather than religious ideology. In response to the criticism, Holland issued a statement in which he acknowledged that some of his claims had been "unhelpfully phrased" and expressed regret for any offense caused. However, he maintained that the central thesis of his documentary remained valid. Overall, the controversy surrounding Holland's documentary highlights the importance of careful and rigorous scholarship when exploring complex historical topics like the origins and development of Islam.

@norman-gregory

Жыл бұрын

Is this done on purpose? Do Universities and academia only give a certain diatribe, and everything else is put aside? Do you honestly believe we descend from Homo Sapiens? Have we as a people evolved? Or... Were we all Created? Did we all descend from Noah's Ark? Yes, I have faith in...Almighty God. The God from The Holy Bible.

@NajashiProductions

Жыл бұрын

Glad I saw this before I wasted an hour lol😂

A good quest for an answer to his questions. Appreciate his patience and persistence in keeping asking questions until he himself became confused about his questions. Good exercise, but it must be very expensive one. Congratulations. Finally you know what you don't know.

@willdouglas1398

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@susilodwijantoro8504

3 жыл бұрын

Hahha

@avrakehdabra5863

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂...

@IdrusMelodramatic

Жыл бұрын

😅

@OneFingerMan

Жыл бұрын

Tom Holland's documentary "Islam: The Untold Story" was heavily criticized by scholars and experts for its numerous inaccuracies and factual errors. One of the most significant inaccuracies was Holland's assertion that there was no archaeological evidence to support the traditional Islamic account of the life of Prophet Muhammad. Holland claimed that no physical evidence of Muhammad's existence or the early Islamic community had been found, and suggested that this was evidence that the traditional Islamic account of Muhammad's life was a later fabrication. However, this claim was widely refuted by scholars and experts. Islamic studies professor Jonathan Brown, for example, wrote in a review of the documentary that Holland's claim "reflects a rather bizarre ignorance of the field of early Islamic history and archaeology." Brown explained that while there is relatively little archaeological evidence from the early Islamic period, there is abundant written evidence from the time that supports the traditional Islamic account of Muhammad's life and the early Islamic community. Other experts also pointed out factual errors in Holland's documentary, such as his claim that the Kaaba in Mecca was originally a Christian shrine, and his suggestion that the early Islamic conquests were primarily motivated by economic gain rather than religious ideology. In response to the criticism, Holland issued a statement in which he acknowledged that some of his claims had been "unhelpfully phrased" and expressed regret for any offense caused. However, he maintained that the central thesis of his documentary remained valid. Overall, the controversy surrounding Holland's documentary highlights the importance of careful and rigorous scholarship when exploring complex historical topics like the origins and development of Islam.

Whenever Holland talks about its “weight,” you can’t help but think, “Yeah, of course. Islam is oppressive, not liberating. It’s the worst iteration of the monotheistic patriarchy in history.”

Wonderful work, even he got no answers, but it was an awesome journey. much respect to Mr. Holland and this channel.

We've all heard about it being the religion of peace! We also know actions speak louder than words!

@BinaryBunyip

4 жыл бұрын

Chuck & Maxx, you should see "HyperNormalisation" by Adam Cutris.

@chucklotro8749

4 жыл бұрын

@Maxx Fleischer yeah? I missed the news about The West starting the war.

@chucklotro8749

4 жыл бұрын

@Maxx Fleischer the one this crap hole started in 2001. None of those you mention are relevant to the "religion of peace". Please don't deflect try and stay on topic.

@johnmguzman7491

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, just be careful not to cherry pick verses from the Qur'an or The Bible without understanding the context.

@MindManifestator

4 жыл бұрын

Aggression of the USA was First you invaded and supported terrorists in Afghanistan in Syria in irak so stop acting innocent - the us empire is the biggest bullshit the world has ever experienced - you sacrifice your own people for money and Kapital- you are the biggest unethical murderers and rulers ever - lies lies lies and all you people are manipulated from head to bottom by your fucked up rulers who are fachist and money greedy - humanity you don’t know! Respect you don’t know ! Fachism at it’s Peak!!!

Very interesting. Love the tour of ancient places

5:33 we have the history of how. They placed the implement of the conversion on their flag.

Even though I understand the majority of it, there are certain parts I don't understand, so please add English subtitles or turn on the automatic subtitle.

@bnKeepGrowing

Ай бұрын

Then Learn English

Most un professional documentary I’ve ever seen. A 10 year old arab kid who is muslim can tell u from A to Z how islam came and started

@beardedskyrim8652

3 жыл бұрын

Today we had attacks again. Some women beheaded in a church because of western values.. Islam is a fascist religion, and absolutely in our modern age the lowest and most horrific religion. Seems to me like they worship the devil.

@MikeCressey-ko9zd

Күн бұрын

That’s where he went wrong, should have asked a 10 year old, all the men didn’t have a clue …. how can you find something that doesn’t exist….you won’t!

4.50, wrong already. Istanbul was not the capital of the Roman empire, it was always Rome. But wen the Roman empire was divided into two, or better, collapsed, Istanbul was the -capital- of the Eastern Roman Empire. Since i am not allowed to post links,youtube considers this advertising, i just copied a few lines from WIKI. Following the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in the late 5th century, Constantinople remained the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire (also known as the Byzantine Empire; 330-1204 and 1261-1453), the Latin Empire (1204-1261), and the Ottoman Empire (1453-1922

@karagi101

4 ай бұрын

That is true. There were two competing capitals.

Very fascinating. It's very surprising that there is no written description of the religion of the Arabic conquerors of Jerusalem. Interesting that they targeted the Temple Mount. The coin was very fascinating as well. I'm not an archaeologist, but why is someone allowed to handle an artifact like that with their bare hands?

@DelilahMidnight

19 күн бұрын

That's the strange thing. I am always watching historical and archeology documentaries and I've never actually seen that with something that old (touching it with bare hands). Maybe they can with coins. Idk. I don't remember seeing people touching coins at all. Just looking at them in their cases

@pikapi6993

5 сағат бұрын

it might be a copy of the original.

video production quality is amazing

Mr Hollands book "Sword of Islam" - I think it's called - covers the subject of this video in some depth and is very good.

This strengthened my belief in Christ, thank you!

@milkbunnies

4 ай бұрын

He’s not real either….

@SPQR7117

3 ай бұрын

@@milkbunnies dude, you can pretend all you want- there's no serious scholar that disputes the actual existence of the man Jesus, that lived in and around Judea around 2,000 years ago. If you don't care to believe in the deity of Jesus- well, that's another issue you have altogether.

What you can say is that his capacity to memorize and to keep the verses in chronological gives an equivalence of his brain capacity

@rodofdiscipline1887

4 ай бұрын

I see you’ve never read the Kora, Islam = total corruption.

Tom Holland develops on the lines of Patricia Crone, who decisively spoke on the muddled history of Mecca. This documentary based on Holland's work was aired only once by Channel4 and taken down after protests of fundamentalists. It's good to see this documentary back again on KZread.

@halaassi4431

4 жыл бұрын

M Vyas 🤣your funny what diffence dose it make like people are dumb and can’t search for themselves press of a google dear you can see who converts and why is it the fastest growing religion

@naveedsolangi8704

4 жыл бұрын

It's not Mecca it's Makkah

@arminius6506

4 жыл бұрын

I watched the whole documentary and it's pretty fine... He only kept on focusing on Quran when their is another parallel tradition we can "Hadith", he should've followed it.

@praneshramachandran8745

2 жыл бұрын

@@naveedsolangi8704 the proper word mentioned in the holy Quran is Bacca, which means weeping place and this refers to Petra in Jordan !

@strongwater7814

2 жыл бұрын

@@praneshramachandran8745 Can you prove that Brother?

I'm quite sure that the Emperor in Chang'an would have disputed the Emperor in Constantinople's claim to be Master of the Universe.

@mafia_dave32

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed .

A respectful and sensitive documentary on the topic of the historical origins of Islam. Thank you.

An excellent documentary! Is the cinematographer and/or editor enraptured with Mr. Holland? He is lovingly kept in frame (in various filters and angles) for 65% of the footage. 😂 Nonetheless, a fascinating journey.

I have always been fascinated by the notions that Mt Sinai the Christian monastery is there, and I have a book called “Where Moses Walked”. Sinai is where God spoke. Sinai is where God stopped talking. Then I realized that guess what? If God is God? God is everywhere and don’t have to pay admission to be close to God. 1 Corinthians 3:16 “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?” So we don’t need to pay admission or go on a hadj or pilgrimage to the Holy Land to be close to God. God is everything, everywhere and in every believer.

@watchgoose

4 жыл бұрын

True enough, as He is omnipresent. But many Christians enjoy visiting the Holy Land where our Lord lived. LIkewise, Muslims enjoy making the journey to Mecca. It's no different (for them).

@SunMoon477

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what Hinduism is! Creating positive energy! Everything is God and you’re self is the other side of god! you can never see yourself truly but only feel it!

@SunMoon477

4 жыл бұрын

Your Worst Nightmare - Facts What you’re saying is true! Language is a curse becarfull of what words we use daily! GOD=DOG

@timhallas4275

4 жыл бұрын

The kingdom of God is humanity itself. We created God. We are God.

@bledsoetx

4 жыл бұрын

Too bad you hang your position on Paul/Saul's perversions of Jesus' teachings.

اشهد الا اله إلا الله حقا حقا وأشهد أن محمداً رسول صدقا صلى الله عليه وسلم وكفى بالاسلام نعمة اللهم ثبتنا على دينك وهدي نبينا محمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وارزقنا رؤيته قبل الممات واغفر لي ولوالدي وللمؤمنين والمؤمنات ونسألك مرافقة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم احبك يا رسول يا حبي واسال الله ان يرزقنا حسن الختام بكرامة وجه نبينا محمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم اللهم امين والحمدلله رب العالمين

@masudsaleh5155

11 ай бұрын

*Atheists claim that they are intellectually superior to religious people because they are willing to question their beliefs, whereas religious people are dogmatic and refuse to question their deepest beliefs and won't consider evidence that could potentially undermine those beliefs.* . Well, have you ever heard an atheist say: "I wonder if constantly increasing individual freedom is a good thing." "I was wrong about democracy being a viable system." "Maybe the sexual revolution was a mistake." "The evidence shows that equality of the sexes is destructive." "Let's have a debate on if freedom of speech and religion is good for society." "Could it be that women need fewer rights?" I have never seen an atheist raise these questions or hold these positions up to serious scrutiny. Nor do they provide any evidence for their beliefs on these matters. They simply assert them and ridicule and mock anyone who disagrees with them.

Mohammad is mentioned clearly in the Quran , Surah Alfath , verse 29, and it says: Muḥammad is the Messenger of Allāh; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allāh and [His] pleasure. Their sign is in their faces from the effect of prostration [i.e., prayer]. Also it would be more objective to bring an Islamic Theology scholar to present the Islamic view on this, with all respect to prof. Nasr , but he is more of a philosopher and we needed a theology point of view as well.

There are two distinct periods in Quran. That is before conquer of Makka and after. The sura’s are also split in those two era. These are because both periods has distinct social parameters.

Cute that he ignored that Jerusalem fell during the 2nd Righteous Caliph, Umar ibn Khattab. (he jumped directly to Muawiyyah). He ignored also that Mecca has at least one Oasis. He also can explain how in Jupiter's name, Rome can let a center of resistance bloomed right in the center of Syam. BTW, the fertile crescent trumped canaan.

@omaralkusari3924

Жыл бұрын

Of course he skipped over the obvious. This video was made for Christians to feel better about themselves lol

@alexanderealley9992

11 ай бұрын

They have done archeological research into what grew in Mecca. It wasn’t much of anything as they found no evidence of trees as described in the Quran. What is obvious is that the original holy site was not in current day Mecca. You only have to look to the oldest Mosques to determine which direction they prayed and it was not toward current day Mecca. This does not mean Islam is false, it simply means that their holy sites have changed. Jerusalem was never a holy site for Muslims prior to their conquering of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is mentioned ZERO times in the Quran.

@masudsaleh5155

11 ай бұрын

​@@alexanderealley9992 *Atheists claim that they are intellectually superior to religious people because they are willing to question their beliefs, whereas religious people are dogmatic and refuse to question their deepest beliefs and won't consider evidence that could potentially undermine those beliefs.* . Well, have you ever heard an atheist say: "I wonder if constantly increasing individual freedom is a good thing." "I was wrong about democracy being a viable system." "Maybe the sexual revolution was a mistake." "The evidence shows that equality of the sexes is destructive." "Let's have a debate on if freedom of speech and religion is good for society." "Could it be that women need fewer rights?" I have never seen an atheist raise these questions or hold these positions up to serious scrutiny. Nor do they provide any evidence for their beliefs on these matters. They simply assert them and ridicule and mock anyone who disagrees with them.

@muhammadjibran8239

10 ай бұрын

Don't talk through your hat. The most holiest site in Islam after mecca and madina is the Al aqsa mosque, which is mentioned in Quran.

Seriously Tom.....From an academic and Historic perspective, your "Untold Story" is simply like McDonald's Value Meal !!!

@roboryx8104

3 жыл бұрын

@@kolitmas624 apparently in my comment you only read McDonald...To answer your question yes i did many researches and studies....Markus i have an idea for you...The truth is there, hiding it is easy, finding it is difficult..i hope that helps you

@josharaujo9589

3 жыл бұрын

Roboryx what truth would that be?

@roboryx8104

3 жыл бұрын

​@@josharaujo9589 That is an open question to make it short truth is Veritas.....Human are Human Truth is truth.. I hope that answer your question....

@EgzonNikqiFB

3 жыл бұрын

He made this documentary like this to protect himself, trying to be as indirect as possible, but coming out with the message..

@audaciouspert1772

3 жыл бұрын

@@kolitmas624 people are dumb.

I'm not sure what I expected from this at the start, but what I found was that spending over an hour telling someone that there is no evidence for something can be pretty boring.

@BibleThumpr

Ай бұрын

Counting can put you to sleep. Counting money changes that. If you debate islam v Christianity, this is gold.

"For the first 100 years after the founding of "Islam", none of the Mosques "Qibla" faced towards "Mecca", for the first 120 years of Islamic history, none of the surrounding Nations knew about the existence of "Mecca", the word "Mecca" appears only once in the Quran, the most revered site was referred to as "Mashjd al Haram", "forbidden gathering place". The Al Aqsa Mosque "Qibla" does not point to "Mecca", the Khirbat al Mafja Mosque built 724 AD, 103 years after the founding of "Islam", its "Qibla" does not point to "Mecca", all Mosques built in first 100 years after founding of "Islam", pointed to Petra in Jordan... There is no record of "Muhammad" being "born in Mecca", the Quran describes "Gardens, Orchards, Fields" surrounding "Muhammad's birth place", soil tests have shown that there have never been fertile ground around "Mecca"...to the West, Northern Africa, Spain, the Umayyad-(traditionallists) built Mosques facing Petra, in Iraq, to the East, the Abbasid-(reformers) built Mosques facing "Mecca", 683 AD Ibn Zubayr destroyed the original "Kaaba" in Petra....." Reference: "The Sacred City". Timeline World History. Controversial, and absolutely worth considering....

@iq2823

Ай бұрын

Question is: How Authentic, Adequate and Authorize is The Sacred City". Timeline World History? What if, I say this reference is self-created and full of Lies, nonsensical, baseless and lunatics and fools of lexicons? What if, we challenge the Bible and Jesus like that? How would you prove then?

@nicolasrose3064

Ай бұрын

@@iq2823 "What if"..... How about, you search the "Timeline World History" Documentary "referenced" for yourself...? "Self created lies, non-sensical, baseless, fools lexicon...". !? What do you think Religious dogma is......"Divine". !?!!? What is written in the Bible is clearly not the best that Humanity is capable of in the ethical domain. Not by people who claim the authority of fabricated pieces of primeval myth and fiction and want me to believe that these are "Divine", that, I won't have, and it is the original repudiation. The first rebellion against mental slavery comes from saying ; this is man-made, it is not "Divine". The age of subscribing to the dictates of Parables, Prose, Fantasies and Fables, prescribed by morality signalling hypocrites who presume to speak on behalf of a Celestial Patriarch in whose "name" they cast aspersions, judgements, condemnation and prejudice while claiming that these are "God's verdict", is over Conciousness has recognised an authentic understanding of knowledge free from the conceit and contrivances of an ultimatum based superstitious hysteria prescribed by lies, fabricated fiction. The age of ignorance is over.

@nicolasrose3064

Ай бұрын

@@iq2823 "Lies, fools of lexicon, baseless, nonsensical, self created....". !? "What if"...... How about you research "Timeline World History" Doco for yourself.... and form your opinion on actually deciding for yourself instead just being outright dismissive ..... seriously, the epitome of ignorance is to dismiss outright without having any experience, knowledge, insight yourself. What is written in the Bible is clearly not the best that Humanity is capable of in the ethical domain. Not by people who claim the authority of fabricated pieces of primeval myth and fiction and want me to believe that these are "Divine", that I won't have, and it is the original repudiation. The first rebellion against mental slavery comes from saying ; this is man-made, it is not "Divine". The age of subscribing to the dictates of Parables, Prose, Fantasies and Fables prescribed by morality signalling hypocrites who presume to speak on behalf of a Celestial Patriarch in whose "name" they cast aspersions, judgement, condemnation and prejudice while claiming that these are "God's verdict", is over. Conciousness has recognised an authentic understanding of knowledge free from the conceit and contrivances of an ultimatum based superstitious hysteria, the age of ignorance is over.

@nicolasrose3064

Ай бұрын

@iq2823...."What if" !? How about, you research the references for yourself, the title is provided, the epitome of ignorance is to dismiss something outright without having any knowledge or experience of that you dismiss. What is written in the Bible is clearly not the best that Humanity is capable of in the ethical domain. Not by people who claim the authority of fabricated pieces of primeval myth and fiction and want me to believe that these are "Divine", that I won't have, and it is the original repudiation. The first rebellion against mental slavery comes from saying ; this is man-made, it is not "Divine". The age of subscribing to the dictates of Parables, Prose, Fantasies and Fables prescribed by morality signalling hypocrites who presume to speak on behalf of a Celestial Patriarch in whose "name" they cast aspersions, judgement, condemnation and prejudice while claiming that these are "God's verdict", is over. Conciousness has recognised an authentic understanding of knowledge free from the conceit and contrivances of an ultimatum based superstitious hysteria, the age of ignorance is over.

@gabiebachmat1811

Ай бұрын

@@iq2823 How Authentic, Adequate and Authorize is the books of hadith? What if their reference is self-created and full of Lies, nonsensical, baseless and lunatics and fools of lexicons?

I think that it may have been Benjamin Franklin who said that religion in the hands of the good is a force for good, and in the hands of the evil it is a force for evil.

@juliarequiao1319

Ай бұрын

The man that set free slaves of christian people... it applies to it all

The music in this documentary is just phenomenal! And the visuals...! Man! Where has this been all my life!

@OdonLafontaine

2 жыл бұрын

They are really good professionals

@mannx6625

2 жыл бұрын

Ivk

@pradeenkrishnag2368

Жыл бұрын

Desert by Samuel Sim

@youtubearsivi9223

Жыл бұрын

I got obssed with the music years ago when I watched the doc for the first time. After years of search I actually found some on soundcloud.

@alexbaro

Жыл бұрын

Have you noticed that the guests are all jewish? Where is the Muslim scholar needed for debate in a so called "documentary" ?

Its interesting that Jesus name is mentioned more in the Quran than Mohammed. Just interesting. Take care everyone whatever your beliefs ❤

Yeh, Having been in the hotel industry, I have had the fortune of working with many, many persons from many, many culture’s, countries and ethnicities. Retired now for ten years, I regularly golf with Asian golf partners from Taiwan, Korea and those that actually lived in China and owned a factory in China. I very much enjoy hearing about their experiences, opinions, cultures and families. In “79”, I had many Iranian young men work for me. They needed to work due to assets being frozen and not being able to get back to Iran. 45 years later, I know for a fact some of these men have raised families in the U.S. and are as “Americanizes” as can be. Although I recognize there are many Muslims in the U.S., they DO NOT want to over-assimilate or have there families, descendants effected by the American culture. My neighbor is one. He will not shake hands with someone such as I. I have encountered this many times interacting with persons of that culture. So- although in our country and our culture, their religion does not allow to integrate. This is segregation. Just saying. Definitely now a religion of love in my humble opinion.

@jackh4996

3 ай бұрын

Huh? In the US? I could see if it was Europe. The vast majority of Muslims in the US are thoroughly assimilated and will shake hands with anyone who respects them. Hell, they even celebrate the fourth. The only difference I know is that they may forego the hot dogs in favor of a burgher or a beef alternative.

I hesitated reading the comment section, coz i know itll be a frenzy.

@722georgetonorge

4 жыл бұрын

Lol same. Not surprised by what I find haha. It seems we have a clash of civilizations continuing into the virtual world. I know it's a long shot, but hey Muslims and non Muslims, why don't we just chill and be friends and talk about all the dank memes we've been browsing during lockdown?

@willdouglas1398

4 жыл бұрын

Same same same lol

@andreebesseau6995

3 жыл бұрын

Lololol.truly!!the world is in trouble bc of these idots....

@abal6671

8 күн бұрын

Emotionally driven and unbiased way of researching, if you have at least bothered yourself to look the prophet wasn’t at all a bedouin or nomad neither were most of his companions, but you needed that image to strengthen your argument and belittling the subject. I’m not even discussing the topic of the prophet lifestyle and history recordings which are authenticated throughout a strictly scientific standards more than any previous nation even more detailed than the history of America which almost a century later and i can give you all the resources and evidences you need . Me not the bedouins of Jordan whom they had nothing to do the prophet’s life. Don’t make a joke of yourself speaking of science yet desperately misleading the audience

It was foretold that lshmael would be:“a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell over against all his brethren” (Genesis 16:12). Pray for his descendants

@therealblackcarin2141

4 жыл бұрын

@Maynard Runkle I believe old scraps of writing that people who were here BEFORE me wrote that have historically and scientifically been proven accurate thousands of times; yet YOU are here watching and commenting on a video that derived from dusty old scraps of paper... the freakin IRONY! Got to be a milinial...🤦🏽‍♀️😅

@therealblackcarin2141

4 жыл бұрын

@Maynard Runkle If you wasn't so slow, you'd know that different people including Ishmael had their OWN lineages and he was NOT an Israelite he was clearly an Ishmaelite that had 12 princes of his own. God said that ALL valid prophets would come from the seed of Israel... stay in a child's place, this is Chess not checkers! 🖕🏾

@mmccrownus2406

4 жыл бұрын

pray for the will of God upon the descendants of Jacob who became "Israel" who tricked his brother out of his birthrite, as the Synagogue of Satanites are conning the West as I write.

@thebloopsound4241

4 жыл бұрын

Hey.hey.hey.hey.hey.... I was told that Muhammad was given instructions to write the Koran by the Angel Gabriel, the messenger of God. I know Gabriel. He told Mary she was to give birth to Jesus. So unless the Koran had a different Gabriel, why wouldn't he tell Muhammad Jesus was the son of God?

@IJATUDDIN_20

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebloopsound4241 Then what about david?in the OT he was mentioned that he was the begotten son of god,why dont christian worship him?

I find this fascinating but as an atheist, where would mankind be if religion had never taken a foothold in our past?

@rayoflightt64

2 ай бұрын

Oh I think the world would have been much better place, no hate for women or communities would have existed and countries wouldn't have been fighting or divided in the names of gods. No casteism, divisions or the stupidity

@ASH9366

Ай бұрын

Every thing is not bad , good & bad is life , no if & but's

@aftabsayed2825

Ай бұрын

Wondering, Wondering, and still Wondering..... 😪😵

What gets me is how Islam takes credit for scientific discoveries. If anything, religion has mostly stifled science. People made discoveries regardless of it

A mystical place in the desert would be a "mirage" to these early humans

@iowkey_9339

4 жыл бұрын

@Immortalsoldier Imortalsoldier why are you throwing out insults like an edgy 12 year old?

THIS IS THE TOO-OFTEN-UNTOLD STORY It’s hard to believe that after 1,400 years anything remains to be said about Muhammad, Islam’s texts, and Muslim history. First, Muhammad said he got the Qur'ān privately from an angel in a cave. When he nevertheless found that he was making only a small impact in Mecca, in 622 he left for Yathrib with some fellow emigrants-Islam’s Hijrah-changed Yathrib’s name to Medina, and embarked on a different route to influence: war, which has remained Islam’s way ever since (though Muslims are certainly on a peace offensive now, apart from their war in Africa’s Sahel). “The Apostle...struck whoever turned his back to (God) until he came to Islam, willingly or grudgingly” (Islam’s first caliph, Abu Bakr, quoted in al-Tabari's History of the Prophets and Kings”). Grudgingly, huh? An interviewer in 2011 asked Ahmad Abu Quddum “So we are commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allah?” “Yes,” he said, “this is Islam’s way of spreading.” In his new home, Muhammad drew up a Constitution of Medina that made him the town’s leading citizen. Meanwhile he fought a series of battles, offensive and defensive, including 627’s Battle of the Trench-a siege, really-after which he personally beheaded at least 600 men and a woman of Medina’s Jewish Banu Qurayza tribe for not supporting him. “The Messenger of Allah...slaughtered 700 people-that is our Prophet and our religion” (KZread’s Abu Muhammad Ar Rusi). While in Medina, Muhammad sat in judgment of a man who’d killed his children’s mother for having slandered Muhammad, who found the man not guilty: “Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood” (Abu Dawud 5:4361, a canonical hadith). In early 630, Muhammad triumphantly returned to Mecca at the head of an army. He died there in June 632. So what do Islam’s texts say? They are extensive, but include Qur'ān 2:2, which discourages THINKING about the Qur'ān: “This is the Book about which there is no doubt.” Qur'ān 2:285 makes the point clearer still: “We hear and we obey.” And Qur'ān 5:101-02 adds “Do not put questions about things which if declared to you may trouble you....A people before you...became disbelievers on account of them.” So what is Muslims’ mandate? Qur'ān 2:251 says “And if it were not for Allah checking [some] people by means of others, the earth would have been corrupted....” (The brackets are in the translation.) Qur'ān 2:216 has Muhammad saying “Fighting is enjoined on you.” And Bukhari 4:52:311 has him saying “When you are called by the Muslim ruler for jihād fighting, you should go forth immediately.” And Muslims’ defense of Islam is to be brutal. Qur'ān 5:33 says “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides.” Qur'ān 8:67 says “It is not for a prophet to have captives [of war] until he inflicts a massacre [upon Allah's enemies] in the land” (brackets of which are in the translation), which makes of Muhammad a brutal man of war. Indeed, Qur'ān 9:3 says “Allah and His Apostle are free from liability to the idolaters.” Quickly then, Qur'ān 9:5 says “When the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush,” a clear exhortation to premeditated murder. Finally, in 712, eighty years after Muhammad’s death, al-Hajjaj bin Yousef cited Qur'ān 47:4’s “O True believers, when you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads” to justify a slaughter of thousands in Brahmanabad, far up the Indus River valley. But does that typify Muslim history? Muslims invaded India, not the reverse; Persia, not the reverse; the Byzantine Empire (including Syria and Egypt), not the reverse; Africa’s Maghreb, not the reverse; Europe, not the reverse; and fought the Chinese on the Talas River, far from Arabia. “The Mohammedan Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history,” wrote Will Durant (1885-1981). And in 636-37, Muslims besieged and took Jerusalem, to which they had no claim aside from arrogance. Moreover, to this very hour, no one has ever invaded Arabia’s Hejaz, which embraces both Mecca and Medina. Have Muslim jihādis misunderstood Islam? Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), a Muslim sociologist admired in the West, once summarized Muslims’ obligations this way: “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a duty because of...[the obligation to] convert everyone to Islam either by persuasion or by force....The other groups did not have a universal mission, so the holy war was not a religious duty to them....All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Qur'an. [To] discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is [for them to choose among] conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax [jizya], or death.” Abul A'la Maududi (1903-1979) wrote "The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power in this world that tries to get in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy....The believers [are] under an obligation to do their utmost to dislodge them from political power and make them live in subservience to the Islamic way of life." And in 2015, Abu Bakar Bashir said “If the West wants to have peace, then they must accept Islamic rule.” That, then, is what the world is up against and what much of the world is loath to face. It’s also what humanity MUST face if it’s to survive. “Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error” (Muhammad, quoted at Abu Dawud 3:4590).

@michaelbattenfield4100

4 ай бұрын

Mohammed was just another “Joesph Smith” who was discontented with the religions of his day, so he borrowed from several religions and made up the rest claiming “private revelation”. It gained for him a lot of power- which further bolstered his pride and insanity.

@wurds509

4 ай бұрын

I believe their egos make Muhammad compare more closely with Donald Trump than with any other contemporary or recent figure.

@loggerchadwake7141

4 ай бұрын

That sums up all religions.

@masalli

4 ай бұрын

​@@michaelbattenfield4100Perhaps Mohammed was role model for Joseph Smith. Mohammed was a shepherd, merchant, prophet, rebel, war lord and theocratic despot. Mohammed had plenty of wifes, but he had no living sons. The death of the prophet and the betrayal of her trusted men are also silent history. Fatima's children and Ali were brutally silenced.

@GlennLC

3 ай бұрын

See also these documentaries: "The Mysteries Of Islam's Most Sacred Site" and "Islam False Religion Exposed".

His video is like his books: too long, too wordy. Having said that, his books are must-read if you have any interest in ancient history. Absolutely eye-openers.

@abal6671

8 күн бұрын

Emotionally driven and unbiased way of researching, if you have at least bothered yourself to look the prophet wasn’t at all a bedouin or nomad neither were most of his companions, but you needed that image to strengthen your argument and belittling the subject. I’m not even discussing the topic of the prophet lifestyle and history recordings which are authenticated throughout a strictly scientific standards more than any previous nation even more detailed than the history of America which almost a century later and i can give you all the resources and evidences you need . Me not the bedouins of Jordan whom they had nothing to do the prophet’s life. Don’t make a joke of yourself speaking of science yet desperately misleading the audience

@tnsampson2

7 күн бұрын

@@abal6671Have you read Holland's books?

Very interesting, I believe in something but fortunately not suff written in books. Most is well meaning on the face of it. But i can see how it is used to control the masses of people. Which is necessary. I'm on a journey to find understanding and truth. The more I look into this the more questions arise. Love this stuff and everyone on this planet, lost in space. Best wishes to everyone ❤️ 💖

Great presentation. I lived in Abqaiq, Saudi Arabia, working in the oil industry from 1978 to late 1981. I was in a compound where only supervisory Saudis lived among us, with Americans, British and a few of us Canadians.. I have read the entire Quran given me as a gift. I keep it with my Bibles, Catholic and Protestant. While living there I learned to read, write and speak Arabic although my reading was at a grade school level. Beyond my fellow Saudi workers and other X patriots with whom I worked, I gained a good relationship with a Muslim Mutawa, Hadi Sala, who was also an oil works Superintendent making him powerful. To me the competition between Rome and Constantinople caused the Prophet Mohammed to 'do his own thing' if I may use such an expression.

@BS-bo1zh

8 ай бұрын

Jihad (conquest) was done for material gains but wisely disguised under "the word of God".

@UAUmar-ll2pj

7 ай бұрын

"the competition between Rome and Constantinople" as you said has nothing to do with Islam progress, Allah plan things the way he wish. in armies of Roman Byzantine Empire and that of Pasian all outnumbered that of Muslims in hundred of numbers, then which rivalry are you talking about? before he even migrate to Madina he has been promising his people they will take over the Empire of Rome and Pasian yet they laughed at him while calling him mad man doing hallucination.

@BS-bo1zh

7 ай бұрын

So islam is about conquer war and slavery ! Jihad in the name of God ! What a disgusting religion ! Islam is nothing than a politic of supremacy, conquering and discrimination. A nazzi religion. And the same like nazzi , islam want to exterminate all the jews ! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮@@UAUmar-ll2pj

@jasminemunoz9788

7 ай бұрын

It’s just his perspective! As a Christian, I am always trying to understand where the divide happened. And I know it started when Abraham kicked out Ishmael and his mother after Isaac was born, at least that’s my perspective from all the history books I’ve studied and documentaries I’ve watched. If we all follow the same GOD, what has caused our corruption as one people?! If GOD loves us all, why are we still fighting after 2500 (or more) years!

@mhmn867

7 ай бұрын

Fu

There is a book. In which there is no doubt. A guidance for those who believe in the unseen.

@tryarunm

Жыл бұрын

The Oxford English Dictionary.

@wookie4522

11 ай бұрын

@@tryarunm quite funny ha

It's not a Religion, it was one Army, slowly they converted a Religion

This is actually ridiculous 😅. Holland seems to visit people, places not to inquire but ask how what they say relate to what he presumes. He literally gives his own meaning to what he finds out.

@ridwanullahipopoola1703

11 ай бұрын

Literarily, he talks about Islam without using any Arabic text as reference, that was his biggest blunder

@junsu21

10 ай бұрын

While I think the questions he asks about the early historicity of Islam are important and useful, so so much about some the things he says just reaks of eurocentrism and a certain type of white superiority complex. It comes out when he speaks about other empires and compares them to largely Western/Christian ones. So terrible

@johnappleseed2558

10 ай бұрын

This the character of a non believer! How can he expect to see when he chooses to shut his eyes & arrogant enough to want to see without listening first!

@mcarthurmcarthurstudios7746

10 ай бұрын

"visit people, places not to inquire but ask how what they say relate to what"...Religion..."presumes. "...Religion..."literally gives"...its..."own meaning to what "...it..:"e finds out",

@judylloyd7901

10 ай бұрын

​@@junsu21reeks*

So many comments about this being "poorly researched" and "missing so much history/information". Yet know one know what's missing, or where to find it.

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@Game Of Web You mentioned a single place, mentioned in a single verse from the Quran. Yet gave no historical relevance to it. Which is what the person in the video was referring too. Your other references to historical accuracy didn't even show a connection with the Quran. Your mention of Hirayrah is somewhat strange to me, in all honesty. There are some Islamic scholars, who quote him as being a liar. Saying much of his work was stolen from others. Also, that he was a later convert, and spent little time with Muhammed. As well as criticism by Aisha and Umar. Many point out that Umar even with the physically assaulted him. What quailifications do you feel on needs to be labeled an "arab" historian, or a "muslim" historian? The video presenter does have a degree, and has written several non-fiction books on historical figures, and historic periods.

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@Game Of Web What are you talking about? You actually only addressed one thing I said directly. Yet not enough to dismiss my point. In reference to Hirayrah. Your talking about a well in the desert, and a place being mentioned in the Bible, still doesn't show the passage you cited, having any historical reference to something that took place. Do I really need to get into your going on about lawyers being total nonsense, in regards to my asking you about historian qualifications?

@skellingtonmeteoryballoon

3 жыл бұрын

It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullah b. 'Umar) that the Messenger of moon elah Al'lah (may peace be upon him) observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@Game Of Web Again, you are not addressing what I actually said. Apparently it's more important for you to make up your own "version" of what I said. Also, you are assuming that the person never talked to anyone that was "arab" or "Muslim", simply because you did not see it in the video? That's absurd on numerous levels. I have no idea what documentary you are referring to on the "life" of Jesus. But, I will say all the ones that I have seen, offer no factual evidence on a historical life of Jesus. Simply speculation based on religious texts. Which are nothing more than historical narratives. Your reference about someone mentioning some person, named Muhammed, who taught something, offers very little to support your argument. It's really no different than someone in the 1st century CE mentioning a person named Claudius, who was a store owner. Very common. Your counter arguments are too emotional. You aren't taking the time to put together a coherent comment, that actually support your stance, with anything substantial. All you have really offered is emotion based snippets, that do nothing to actually refute the video.

@zamiel3

3 жыл бұрын

@@skellingtonmeteoryballoon So you're commenting to the other person?

They can be considered a very good historians with very high integrity and credibility by non muslims! actually they were very skeptic themselves, and were rejecting many doubtable stories. They are the Persian Muslims Albukari and Muslim, along with other intellectual Muslims, they wrote a very informative and credible sources which have un ambiguously mentioned the start of Islam. Not accepting their work is a mistake, it only means that there is no acceptable historians ever existed in history. Reading their work despite its difficulty for the non Arabs would make things add up. their documented history can be negotiated instead of omitting it from existence.

Can someone share the soundtrack?

Samuel sim is the composer in this; how fun. He’s doing the dark crystal series right now.

@cooltop1061

4 жыл бұрын

whats the song in the beginning?

This doc is about one person trying to find it's own doubt about a single person and one religion...its more about a journey of finding something...something that can give answer to his own opinion to the way he think and to the way how he realize...the real stories is at the end of this doc...it's more about himself rather than the history it's self...ask the right question and find the right path..and you may find what you're looking.

@Wise__guy

Жыл бұрын

Very nice summary. This documentary is about a guy trying to find a new angle to attack Islam. The method chosen here is Mecca didn’t exist and Mohammed was not a real person. Therefore, it’s all made up. Lol hilarious

@ismailbaig4926

Жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right..

@roelienpostma2367

Жыл бұрын

Stopt after 5 minutes..... Can not bare the formulation of the presentation , not scientific at all

@AsmarAyung

Жыл бұрын

So true.

@gregorymalone71

Жыл бұрын

@@roelienpostma2367I don’t see it like that, these are issues that I struggle with all the time, not just Islam, Christianity or any religion.

As a boy, I belonged to the Boy Scouts. We had a a ritual that included a procedure similar to the Islamic praying for which we recited: I know my heart. I know my mind. I know that I ... stick up behind.

This sounded dodgy right from the very start so I searched 'Is Tom Holland historian legit?' and found a lot of discussions on his lack of training as a historian and his poor analysis skills. To quote Ben Glowerstock, a historian in The Guardian: The scattershot nature of Holland's investigations is particularly apparent in his breezy reference to the Qur'an manuscripts that were found in Sana'a, Yemen, in 1973. He hints darkly at censorship to explain publication delays caused by textual variants in a palimpsest but is unaware that the palimpsest itself and two other manuscripts are actually now with the publisher. He is also unaware that a second cache of Qur'an manuscripts was discovered five years ago in renovations of the Great Mosque in Sana'a and that in February 2010 the Yemeni authorities granted permission for them to be studied. But Holland is at his most irresponsible when he turns to the Meccan origins of Islam. After reasonably supporting Patricia Crone's argument against the tradition of Mecca as a mercantile centre, he goes on to ask whether the place itself might not be an invention in the story of Muhammad. He raises the possibility that the Qur'anic pagans, called mushrikun, might be confederate tribes simply because the word is constructed from the Arabic root for "sharing". He looks for these tribes in southern Jordan and not only thinks of placing Muhammad among them but proposes that his own Meccan tribe, the Quraysh, took its name from the Syriac word qarisha, which, according to Holland, would have been "duly Arabised". This jaw-dropping idea depends on Holland's mistaken view that the Syriac word could allude to a confederation.

It would be great if it just remained untold..

@arifrahmanhakim9413

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mataratriaglanie3660

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@bassamahmed1466

3 жыл бұрын

Actually if it was truly told.. everyone will discover its ugliness

@craiglange2947

Жыл бұрын

@@bassamahmed1466 Wonder what is your source of truth in this matter. From your comments so far, they seem rather partial and vitriolic. Then again, if you are partial it will not make any difference.

@bebo7430

8 ай бұрын

Wonderful Tom.

They don't go around the world sharing anything but hate and death

@mercytomankind9803

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously?! So 2 Billion Muslims are doing what you claim to be doing around the world?! How could you manage to be alive still?! :)

@chadbrown8549

4 жыл бұрын

So the Jews say,I mean news say..lol..

@ahmedabdalla6609

4 жыл бұрын

Said someone who can’t read but very good at repeating what the media tells him

@mohammadamin3260

4 жыл бұрын

Its because islam won't force you to belive. Can't you sew how christian do? What i can see is they will just collect money from you every saturday and sunday all they know is collect money from the politics and the pope the priest gets rich just by saying reapeting the story inside the bibble ..

@CarlosPerez-bt4cj

4 жыл бұрын

JOHN EDWARD relax eat some beacon

Wrong approach....

Tom Holland from "The Rest is History" podcast!! No better person to learn from IMO

In my living memory I have never known or met anyone in there right mind trying to immigrate to a Fascist, Communist or Muslim Country.. NEVER!

@carolincoren3997

4 жыл бұрын

What about the Isis Brides😂😂😂??

@raidankassem4435

4 жыл бұрын

That was not quite right

@raidankassem4435

4 жыл бұрын

Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait and of course Palestinian are Arabic Islamic countries

@frombelow6715

4 жыл бұрын

I am very sorry to hear that, but it is rather easy to meet such people. Just buy a ticket to Dubai or Abu Dhabi or even go to the closest international airport and talk to the people, who are heading for these places.

@purpleduck3494

4 жыл бұрын

@Doc Reasonable Also they're trying to get back to the UK because their husbands are dead because of their own stupidity.

The conclusion is simplistic. The Prophet somewhat acquired a couple of texts from the Jewish religion and Christianity while traveling as a merchant around Syria, and took them all way back to somewhere in the Arabia desert. There he constructed the book by editing those texts. When he died many had converted but not sure where was the 'somewhere' so early mosques have diverse directions. Many years later some big warlords decided to be as cool as Roman emperors and felt like a cool religion was needed. The current holy city was designated as the original 'somewhere' and everyone in the following hundreds of years who doubted the decision was either killed or banished.

@dancemadesimple3885

4 ай бұрын

Thats why, its very diffrent and more logical to correct old versions of the same message, its an upgraded version of the same religion I think

@bilalabdulsamad9152

3 ай бұрын

Nice dream 🌏😃.Goes to show you havn't the faintest idea what you wrote about .

@allancerf9038

3 ай бұрын

If simplistic, accurate. Your summary of what he says is brilliant and I mean that. It is what those skeptical of Islam fail to say in millions of words but which you've done in a few. Your comment is brilliant.

@karlwalters3763

3 ай бұрын

@@bilalabdulsamad9152 Hmmm, sounded pretty convincing to me.

@bilalabdulsamad9152

3 ай бұрын

@karlwalters3763 it must have sounded pretty convincing for someone who doesn't know a thing about islam. Don't blame you . Because if you knew anything about islam you would know everything he said contradicts the history and every sentence can be disproven . A simple google search or youtube search will show you the evidence for all the stuff thats being said. And quran and hadith is available free online if you want to check any of the claims. Making up stories and calling them as facts and people who are convinced by them is the biggest joke i see in this world. Its amazing the stuff people comes up with without an atoms worth of facts and evidences.

As used in Scripture, the word "blasphemy" means expressing something disrespectful or evil about God. Among the worst forms of blasphemy are those which twist sacred truths about God into lies.

Interesting research. Most people that are religious believe not because something is proven but because they feel it or have an inner conviction to follow it. Once you receive the gift of faith life takes on new meaning and somehow makes sense of life...in my experience.

This is one of the most poorly researched documentaries ive ever seen. I was willing to see a different side regardless of the bias but this just leaves out too much.

@zishanhaider

3 жыл бұрын

Fully biased

@Ramoa111

3 жыл бұрын

which is a good documentary about lslam? Please say

@abdulmannansarmasth2327

3 жыл бұрын

Fernando Ramoa its a horrible documentary about islam.

@picassoanimator

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ramoa111 Islam empire of faith.you should watch it.its a well researched documentary made by Richard Gardner in year 2000.its will clear all doubt's and misconceptions about the Islam.

@rekibbora5190

3 жыл бұрын

@Sigma Geranimo You criticize the Quran and Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. See the movie" The Massage"of Islam,2.58 hours length and"Plagues of Egypt", 4 to 5 minutes. In KZread. You can understand the true history.

Very special historical adventure of Tom Holland thank you very much SER

Amazing video. It’s so complicated to understand the origins of our faith. So many years have passed, so little information. Absolutely fascinating.

@Escobarguzman7000

4 ай бұрын

A lot of arabs on here are mad, they don't think like you do and don't want to understand the origins, because it might not agree with their "beliefs"...Islam is not a religion for thinkers, but for followers. Don't ask to many questions, just follow blindly.

The Austin School YT channel has the best most factual teachings on history

A great video👌❤️ thank you for sharing 🙏

@sodeepnext

11 ай бұрын

This was pathetic scholarship and research and ignores the literature of the companions of the Prophet and the children of the companions not to mention cemeteries and tombs, historical sites like the houses of the Prophets wives, the Prophets house in Medina, Dar Al-Arqam, the first Islamic school where Muhammad taught etc. Muhammad pbuh died in 632AD and the oldest rock inscription, the inscription of Zuhayr is just 12 years later in Saudi Arabia and contains a reference to the caliph ‘Umar I and shows evidence of a fully-fledged system of diacritical marks. Then there is the Qur’an remnants in the University of Birmingham dated from the LIFETIME of the Prophet pbuh likely written down by his companions. The Sanaa manuscript of the Qur’an in particular the lower text was dated to between 578 CE (44 BH) and 669 CE (49 AH) with a 95% accuracy. Again WITHIN THE LIFETIME OF THE PROPHET OR HIS COMPANIONS. Then there is the inscription south of al-Ula (near ancient Hijr) in Saudi Arabia not far north of Medina and is dated to the decades soon after the Prophet which reads "Allah, forgive Muhammad the Prophet, and join with him his wives, and, God, forgive the male and female believers, and forgive Salih." Then there is An Arabic Inscription From Cyprus, 29 AH / 650 CE just 18 years after the Prophet pbuh which has a full Surah.. Qul hū Allāhu ahad Allāhu al-ṣamad lam yalid wa-lam yulad wa-lam yakun lahu kufūwan aḥad [Complete Qur’an 112] Translation: "Say: Allah the One, the eternal the Absolute, He did not beget and was not begotten. And there is none like unto Him." Then there are coins from 60 years after the Prophet pbuh such as the Arab-Sassanian Coin Of The Kharijite Rebel Qatarī Ibn al-Fujāʾa, Bīshāpūr, 75 AH / 694-695 CE. Obverse margin: lā ḥukm illā lillāh [Qur’an 12:40, 12:67 and 6:57. Initial ini’l changed to lā] Judgement belongs to God alone. And the Aniconic Silver Coins ("Reformed Coinage"), Minted By The Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd al-Malik, From 77 AH / 696 CE. Reverse field: Allāhu aḥad Allāhu al-ṣamad lam yalid wa-lam yulad wa-lam yakun lahu kufūwan aḥad [Complete Qur’an 112 except for the initial qul hu. However, the "reformed" dīnār also omits the verse wa-lam yakun lahu kufūwan aḥad ("And there is none like unto Him") ]. Reverse margin: [Muḥammad rasūl Allāh] arsalahu bi-l-huda wa dīn al-ḥaqq liyudhhiru ʿala al-dini kullahi wa-law karih-al-mushrikūn [Almost complete Qur’an 61:9 with an adjustment at the beginning to introduce Muhammad] There are multiple rock inscriptions from around Makkah within 67 years of the Prophet pbuh. There are so many others too.. www.islamic-awareness.org/history/islam/inscriptions/earlyquran.html Then of coarse there is the Grave and Tomb of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ (The Sacred Chamber). Please this is just a few examples showing how ignorant this documentary is. Don't waste our time with anti Islamic propaganda.

Where does this fall in the MCU?

@Fluffydoom

4 жыл бұрын

I'm an hour in and spiderman still hasn't shown up

@fabiola925

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@seppetoni7874

4 жыл бұрын

Muhammad is thanos

@AurumLuxuria

4 жыл бұрын

This is the part where Spider-Man converted to Islam.