It is very clear that our muslim brothers and sisters have been mislead. Very sad that their dedication to this religion would put so many so called Christians to shame. God's plan is to offer salvation through the sacrifice of his only beloved son to pay the debt of our sin. If only people could see this, understand and believe. The grace of God will only be understood once we are in his presence for eternity. God bless you

@tradelayer5417

Ай бұрын

It'd be really weird that people who pray 35 times more frequently than Christians and take fasts with sincere challenge like mideival Christians did, but few modern ones do, instead substititing crabcakes for steak one day of the year and calling it a fast, would be condemned by God, in luie of people who indulge more sins on the premise of intercession based on an article of faith. Peace and love, be more pious, God willing!

God bless you man. Keep doing what you doing bro

The thing about reading the Quran in the "actual" Arabic language is that the Arabic of the 7th century is very much different than the Arabic of the 1924 Quran codified in Egypt. Also one significant thing that comes to mind is if God is the creator of all human beings, why is it that the only language he can be approached with is Arabic? I have to learn Arabic to pray to him, read the Quran which is for all mankind?

@straightpath863

Ай бұрын

Because Arabic language is the best, beautiful, and have many meanings behind the words, if the Quran came down with English language, the book will be thicker, and the Quran is easy to memorised with its language, you can read translation of your language that you can understand, also you can pray to God with your own language because God can understand what you are saying because He was All-Knowing, All-Powerful

@BeardedDisciple

Ай бұрын

@holddawah there is 0 scientific proof of any of that. And the fact it can’t be translated just shows how much Allah seems to lack power in a way the Christian God does not.

@straightpath863

Ай бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple bro, have you ever read the translation?, I'm not saying that it can't be translated, sometimes the words in the writing are not easy to translate into another language, so they require words that are a little similar or an explanation, this proves that no matter how it is translated, the original language remains the main language in reading it and its language is preserved and surpasses other languages, compare with the Bible which now has many different versions and contents, many of the contents of which are contradictory and the original language has not been found and the oldest manuscript exists long after Jesus

Muslims used to show Mo’s image all the time in the distant past

I'm wondering why I must believe a book that came six centuries after the events of the New Testament over the witnesses who saw everything?

@aliahmadibm9409

5 күн бұрын

According this approach jews are right about jesus pbuh then why they belive on jesus pbuh who comes after 1400 years of Moses pbuh

Jesus didn't fail. His job is to convey, same as all the prophets before him. He succeeded in his mission. What others did with the message is not his responsibility. There were prophets who had a handful of followers, some had one or two, and some who had none. Their job isn't to convert, but to convey. Years after Jesus they didn't turn him into god. There were still plenty of Christians within the first and second century who denied the divinity of Jesus. The message wasn't lost at the time. We have evidence of it surviving for at least 500 years. Have the revelation of the Quran that message was abrogated and removed from the world. The word in reference that is to be preserved is the Quran. It's not about previous scriptures. I think that's enough to get the point across that things aren't quite as you portray them. Peace.

If you said bible inspired by God why so many different version(not translation) protestant, catholic,orth. Etophia. Same god inspired different thing?.

@michaela.kelley7823

13 күн бұрын

There are some heretical churches for 1. But all have the same Book. So stop lying. And there are also heretical groups in islam arent there? And there are also different qurans. The count was over 40 last time i checked. But you probably think im decieving you. But if you do, that shouldnt be a problem for you since the god you worship boasts of being the greatest deciever. And he also told you that its ok for you to decieve. Your god sure sounds alot like the devil. How do you sleep at night knowing you worship the greatest deciever? What makes you so confident that its not YOU that he actually has decieved?

If we kick out the apologetic writings and other pastoral writings, Jesus is said to be seen as Bart Ehrman says, as a Prophetic figure. There are instances in the synoptics where Jesus is seen as a Prophet, but I am not using that as a main basis of my response. The point is, Islam's perception of Jesus is the most anti-fantasy depiction ever and is absolutely balanced with how a man leading a religious example would be like: A Prophetic figure. Not to mention, the New Testament is not a reliable example of who Jesus was, the very fact that 'Christologies' exist proves there isn't one way of seeing the figure of Jesus through non-dogmatic academic lens but there are multiple depictions of Jesus going on there. Paul, the pastoral epistles view Jesus as a divine pre-existent being but that doesn't mean he is the most high God, divinity was on a spectrum in the tradition of these authors, you could have divine intermediary figures alongside God that were not regarded as the most high God itself. The 3 synoptics have Jesus as the son of God, Messiah or Messiah, Son of the blessed one, what this title means is 100% messianic, because there are instances in the synoptics where his opponents ask him their long awaited question, and those questions aren't 'Are you the 2nd person of the holy Trinity' or 'Are you the most high God' but it is about whether he is the Messiah or not. There is no pre-existence of Jesus in the synoptics, it is in John, and John portrays Jesus as the Logos of God (Not the most high God) and refers to him as God in the intro in the exact same way without the definite article just like how Philo portrayed his version of Logos as, that too, without the definite article. I am aware the synoptics contain the 'son of man sitting on the right hand of God' but that too is Messianic, not some the Most high God portrayal as we see in the Enochic literature, the son of man was a Messianic being who pre-existed before the creation of Earth, was also worshipped on Earth but was NEVER regarded as God himself. difference in opinion about who Jesus was existed in the early stages of Christianity, difference in portrayal of who Jesus also exists in the New Testament.

@BeardedDisciple

25 күн бұрын

So I am curious how much you’ve actually read of the New Testament. Because if you read them Jesus is seen as 1. Always existing 2. Being worshiped by people and not correcting them 3. Has authority to forgive sins apart from the father 4. Makes new teaching to over rule past teaching of God and it as seen as the same level of authority.

@BeardedDisciple

25 күн бұрын

Your claim of Jesus not having pre existence completely ignores John 1.

@theactualuser

25 күн бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple Cool! 1) Nowhere in Mark, Matthew and Luke is Jesus seen as a pre-existent being. The idea in the synoptics is that the Messiah a.k.a the King of Jews has been born and is ready to take what is rightfully his. John is the gospel in which pre-existence of Jesus exists, writings of Paul and other pastoral epistles have Jesus as a pre-existent being, and as I mentioned in my original comment which you never ever addressed is that you can have divine intermediary figures like Jesus (Jesus is the 'way' and no one comes to the Father except 'through' Jesus) without making these figures the most high God or breaking the perception of monotheism. 2) Most of the times, this worship is reverence given to a king rather than cultic worship, but if you want to make the case that it is cultic worship, that too isn't an issue because we see in the logic of the Messianic Son of man (which is Jesus also) that he could be worshipped on Earth, yet this never made him the most high God. 3) Doesn't make Jesus God, in Mark 2 when the scribes think about God forgiving sins alone in his heart, Jesus' response is as if he is telling them something they didn't know. 'So that you may KNOW' meaning that he is telling them something they didn't know.. 'that the son of man has authority to forgive sins' and so the idea is that this son of man figure has the authority to forgive sins but there is no affirmation here that he is God, but that the son of man has the authority to forgive sins. Either way, doing God-stuff doesn't make one God especially if you are someone who the three synoptics make out to be as someone who is coming in the name of the Lord. 4) There is no new teaching, Jesus affirms the Old law. Then Paul comes around saying that Jesus came to him in his visions telling him that the Old law isn't up to date, so here's the new Law! You should change your video's title to "The Islamic Jesus is contradictory to the Christian history Jesus'.

@theactualuser

25 күн бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple I literally accepted that Jesus is pre-existent in the New Testament, but he is not pre-existent in the first 3 gospels. For Paul, Hebrews, Titus, and other pastoral epistles leaving Acts away, Jesus is Pre-existent. My argument is that the New Testament has different Christologies, so how can you accuse Islam of contradicting history as a Christian when your word of God itself doesn't settle down on one definition of who Jesus was?

@BeardedDisciple

25 күн бұрын

@theactualuser read Matthew 3:1 and mark 1:3 in context of Isaiah 59:1 which is quoted in those passages. Jehovah in Isaiah is the name of God and God alone in Hebrew yet that name is associated with Jesus making him God. So even the Synoptics have that from the first chapters.

It was many messiah’s in scripture but Yēshū3 is the only "The Messiah".

Isa is son of Merry the nephew of Aron and Moses which is not the Jesus Christ in the Bible because there is thousands of years difference between Jesus Christ in the Bible vs Issa In Quran

@27steve

Ай бұрын

Dead right Jesus is not the false Jesus of the Koran

@BeardedDisciple

Ай бұрын

Are you saying the Quran has two characters Isa nephew of Moses and Issa who is Jesus? I am trying to understand your point.

@ryuhayabusa5935

Ай бұрын

😂 no timeline does not coincide

@Shaleqa_Adenan

Ай бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple No that is not what I am saying ! The Jesus character in the Bible is Christ or God in the form of flesh born from Mariam and the Isa(Jesus) character in the Quran is a prophet born from Mariam who is the sister of Moses and Aron! What I am saying is that Christians shouldn’t waste their times by arguing two different Jesus because it’s perfectly fine two religions character to have the name of Jesus! What it is not okay is that for Muslims to tell us our Jesus Jesus in the Bible is not God because the Isa(Jesus) in the Quran is prophet! Even though both Quran and Bible have two characters Jesus who were born without fathers from the same mother name Mariam, the Christian Mariam doesn’t have brothers name Moses and Aron! However there is Mariam in the Bible who is the sister of Moses and Aaron but the two Mariam have more than 1500 years differences. So the Christian also can’t tell Muslims they wrong or they don’t know anything because they’ve Mariam character as mother of Isa with two brothers named Aron and Moses because these two characters in the Bible died over 1500 before Jesus was born and the two brothers in the Quran they were alive when Isa was born.

@grandamishwizard1584

Ай бұрын

All worship the holee mo-Ron

On the point of Jesus as a failed prophet, you think that based off of your own opinions however, we still don't think that because another thing you should know is that a prophet is nothing but a warner. That's it. You also need to ask yourself, why was there a need for God to send prophet after prophet after peophet? Was it just for time pass or His amusement? If we take your argument then by that standard, every prophet failed. And yet we Muslims don't believe in that at all. So if we don't believe that, either you lack the knowledge of about the actual Muslim belief is (apart from mainstream identifiers) or you're misrepresentating the belief itself to make yourself feel good about it.

@BeardedDisciple

5 күн бұрын

My standard for not being a failed prophet is that your immediate followers are not responsible for the greatest apostasy of human history.

@attitudeblack5662

5 күн бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple You cannot take a tiny portion of substrata and inflate it to make generalizations(you will always reach the wrong conclusions). That is wrong both academically and analytically.

@BeardedDisciple

4 күн бұрын

@@attitudeblack5662 I am sorry but since when is the largest religion in the world a substrata? If Islam is true Christianity is apostasy.

@attitudeblack5662

4 күн бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple It is *not* the largest religion in the world, yet. It is 2nd to Christianity. So you are again misrepresentating *facts*. Using your logic, if Judaism is true then both Christianity and Islam are apostasy. So your point is?

@BeardedDisciple

4 күн бұрын

Even if I was wrong about Christianity being the largest, which I am not, it still as the second still shows it’s not a substrata as you’re arguing. Islam is predicted to pass up Christianity in the future but it hasn’t yet. Find me one source that says Christianity is not currently the biggest. You won’t find one.

So your profit is right because he was born 600 years before their profit. How about we quit fighting over whose god is right. Mathew, mark, Luke, and John are not Disciples, The beginning of the New Testament, has their names were listed on top because, they were the guys who claimed to interpret a bunch of scrolls 300 years after a guy named Jesus may or may not have lived. The Jews weren’t buying it because of there book of stories, didn’t agree. So your disciples peddled their story until people believed what they were saying. Time moves forward more people start adding more to the story (Man I wonder why everyone hates sequels 😢). History, not god. If you need to feel that there is more to our existence than what we have. Your aren’t believer’s, your beggars, quit asking some one else to fix your problem not your religion because all that is, is group therapy. Go out and find real answers.

@BeardedDisciple

24 күн бұрын

My prophet is right because he is close the events recorded about him and the writings about him are less then 100 years after the events they write of, which is absurdly close compared to other historical writings. Again your 300 years statement shows how little you know since we have copies of the latest gospel John less than 100 years after the events.

@jonparker3210

24 күн бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple I apologize, I have sent you at least 10 messages every time extremely polite. You have reminded me why I won’t listen to anyone who says that they are right because they only react to an article worded by people who want there to be a god because the church says there was. You other people who claim one book is more correct. Instead of trusting yourself and telling me you’re right. You want me to prove you wrong. I have several times. We are here because 2 asteroids collided. Man came from an APE LIKE creature that evolved into man that is why their DNA is so closely linked to ours. We did not go from ape into man we have always been man. If you honestly need anything more, and truly want to discuss it without your hangs up about your feelings. I’m here. If you want me to pick one of your God teams, I pick the Jews. They ask nothing from me but to treat them with respect. If you want to join there religion you go to them. The problems you don’t understand is that you group up form your opinions only based on what you think God wants. Piss off,society sets the rules not your god. You win, there was a god who created the Big Bang fact. Only questioned buy religion. dund dund dun. Universe explained. You enjoy your life searching for answers. I’m spending my life getting truth and the way. Never once accusing you personally of anything, I approached you on a tick tock and you were telling everyone that you were trying to find answers, then go on to say that as Christian’s we think life begins at conception. You are no Christian if you boycott condom handouts in schools ( don’t ask me what document I read, go learn for yourself about the Public School system), then turn around and tell a pregnant kid( anyone under 25, that they have to keep the clump of cells for Jesus. The church is now claiming that a guy named Jesus Gods son and god are the same person. I’m in my 57, you appear to be about my age so I’m assuming that you grew up within a decade of me. So my advice, grow up Santa.

Biblically speaking, Jesus doesn't make sense

@BeardedDisciple

Ай бұрын

Make your case

@GlennMalabo

Ай бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple How can Jesus die for anyone's sins when the Almighty said no one can die for your sins? The "New Testament" Claim: The sins of every person in the world were transferred to Jesus and he was punished for the sins of all humanity. The Problem: The Hebrew Bible clearly states that an individual's sins are non-transferable. The person who sins is the one who will die. A son won't suffer punishment for the father's sins and a father won't suffer punishment for the son's sins. The righteousness of the righteous person will be on him, and the wickedness of the wicked person will be on him. - Yechezkel (Ezekiel) 18:20 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to Elohiym a ransom for him: Tehillim (Psalms) 49:7 But everyone shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eats the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. Yirmiyahu (Jeremiah) 31:30 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. Devarim (Deuteronomy) 24:16

@GlennMalabo

Ай бұрын

@@BeardedDisciple It is an abomination in Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament) to sacrifice a human being A human sacrifice atoning for someone's sins is not a Hebrew Biblical concept. Only pagans sacrifice humans. The theme of salvation through human sacrifice, which originated in pagan beliefs, has been adopted in the New Testament. Human sacrifices are abomination before G-d - Deuteronomy 12:31 You shall not do so to the Lord, your God; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates, they did to their gods, for also their sons and their daughters they would burn in fire to their gods. The Bible says only through repentance, one can be saved, just like the people of Ninevah. 21) And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22) All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live. 23) Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live? 24)And when the righteous repents of his righteousness and does wrong and does like all the abominations that the wicked man did, shall he live? All his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered; in his treachery that he has perpetrated and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die.

@tradelayer5417

Ай бұрын

@@GlennMalabo Furthermore the Hebrew Bible makes it clear that God forgives people who repent, no need for a ransom. Yom Kippur, fasting to atone for sins the past year, is difference from the heifer sacrifice in the temple.

@caroljimmieclark

Ай бұрын

@@tradelayer5417 Our works of righteousnesses is like filthy rags to God. Isaiah 64:6. Good luck making yourself righteous before God.

Jesus is human being a messenger of Allah. Jesus pray to Allah. Jesus ate. Does God ate food?

@BeardedDisciple

19 күн бұрын

Are you implying God is so limited in power that he can’t eat? There is not logical problem with God eating. As for praying to the Father this is why we believe in a trinity of three person of one being that is God.