We must also consider, that Bible prophecy often refers to 2 (or maybe even more) events. It has a pretty obvious meaning and also a prophetic one. For example, Hosea 11:1 says, that God called Israel, his son, out of Egypt (Exodus). Matthew also interprets this text prophetically to refer to Jesus. (Matthew 2:15) Or the Psalm often refer to the situation of David, but also to the Messiah. Likewise, Isaiah 14 likely does refer to the king of Babel as the type, and to Satan as the antitype.

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3 ай бұрын

It is certainly possible that there is a Sensus Plenior here. For example, Pharoah was a type of Satan, his army was a type of the forces of darkness ruling this world, and the Red Sea crossing as a type of baptism, which frees us from from bondage to sin and death (i.e., 1Cor 10:1-4). Likewise, Belshazzar's boastful conduct could be a type of the man of sin who will (in satanic fashion) exalt himself above all other gods and enter the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God (cf. Dan 11:36-37, 2Th 2:3-4).

I'm not in disagreement with the Scriptures, I asked this question earnestly: when would you link the statement of fact that the prophet said; that Lucifer was in charge of what nations, it has to be in an historical op past, also Jesus'statement has to be in an historical past; when did Lucifer fall, ? Is he that old serpent, dragon from the book of Revelation that was in the garden tempting Adam and Eve?

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10 ай бұрын

The reason that Isa 14:12 is in the past tense is given in Isa 14:3-4 (ESV) "When the LORD has given you rest from your pain and turmoil and the hard service with which you were made to serve, 4 you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon..." The remainder of the taunt song is in the past tense because the predicted events will have already happened. The Bible never refers to Satan as Lucifer. In Luke 10:18, Jesus said, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." Rev 12:9 says "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world..."

Interesting,! .

Thank You explained very well!

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7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I have never heard that verse is about the satan. That is totally ridicuous. It doesn't say Luther or whoever. Where did anyone get that.

The stars ascend into heaven at night and the morning they descend there's no message about any creature

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3 күн бұрын

Technically, the stars simultaneously ascend and descend all night long as the earth rotates. Many ancient cultures worshipped celestial objects as supernatural beings thus giving rise to belief in astrology; some believed that deceased rulers ascended into the heavens as stars or comets.