Thanks for watching! I appreciate all the different views expressed in the comments. Regardless of what you think about specific details in this video, which was recorded in 1988 when the population of the world was at just above 5 billion, it should not be controversial to suggest that, even though technological and policy innovations may increase the efficiency of resource distribution and sustain, or even improve, overall living standards for some time, living in a world with finite resources means that continued population growth is ultimately not sustainable in the long term.

@Aethgeir

6 ай бұрын

Overpopulation was the moral panic of Asmiov's day. In reality, it's a regional problem. The birthrate is well below replacement throughout the entire developed world. It's so bad in fact, that experts are now talking about demographic collapse. The only place that's still significantly growing is Sub-Sahara Africa, but even their birthrate is beginning to level off. It wouldn't surprise me if, in a few years, scientists are giving interviews like this, raising the specter of human extinction.

@PavelKava

6 ай бұрын

Finite resources? Remind me when we will have used up all the solar power? I know the wind energy is due to 😁 We have much more resources and much more time before many resources could be exhausted than you think. The EIA say there is over 400 years worth of coal left, what methods of energy will we be using in 400 years? We can't comprehend where we will be in 400 years. We produce more than enough food to feed our current population, we could easily feed more. Asimov was wrong, like Ehrlich he was a Malthusians. Malthus was wrong. But there's no votes/clicks in that. Isaac wrote good books though. ✌

@Jouse-lx3ck

6 ай бұрын

Continued population growth can be sustainable in the long term if the rate at which we innovate on the resource consumption front increases faster than the rate at which we consume resources. This would be theoretically true even if we were completely reliant on just 1 type of resource for all our needs. If the rate at which we consume said resource reduces quickly enough relative to the rate of growth of the population consuming that resource, then that resource is essentially infinite. The question is then: can we innovate at the necessary rate for this to happen? I don’t know for sure, but the world’s whole economy has definitely been dependent on this dynamic since the beginning of the technological era, and continued economic growth would not have been possible if we had not already done so to a significant extent. It doesn’t seem to be slowing down either if you look at the technological landscape as a whole. Though no less of a legendary figure, I think Asimov misses the mark here with his categorical assertion that population growth beyond a certain point is absolutely problematic. I’m pretty sure even the most powerful of supercomputers could not attain such a level of predictive accuracy for a problem with that level of complexity. This just goes too deeply into the realm of chaos theory, and the logic he presents in this discussion is too simple.

@juliantheapostate8295

6 ай бұрын

Solar power is indeed a finite resource if you're just referring to our sun, Sol@@PavelKava

@rusalkin

6 ай бұрын

He starts with not being able to raise the standards of living by redistributing wealth and then proceeds to focus on women. If specifically their standards are raised then... Also algae produce the most oxygen, not rain forests.

I don't know what is written on the gravestone of this man, but it should be "Told you so".

@sakarauka1

Ай бұрын

He was wrong...

@natemoerman7831

Ай бұрын

​@@sakarauka1about what?

@sakarauka1

Ай бұрын

​@@natemoerman7831 The planet isn't overpopulated, the rainforests aren't being destroyed and neither is the atmosphere. All of theses are solved problems. We produce a 25% surplus of flood globally, modern agricultural techniques have lower land and other resource requirements per unit output, and nuclear energy is a completely green energy source.

Isn’t it a shame we have to dive into the past to hear actual thoughtful conversations

@smedicine

3 жыл бұрын

Truly is. I’ve been on a Dick Cavett show kick lately, and the contrast with today’s social and political discourse atmosphere is certainly striking.

@kevindickson2178

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@HigherPlanes

2 жыл бұрын

A shame and a disgrace.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@JimBob1937

7 ай бұрын

There are plenty of thoughtful conversations, just not on TV. Sadly, even the history channel has went the way of conspiracy theory shows and junk in order to chase the viewership. Online you can finds lots of good material... but then it also offset with a far greater amount of misinformation. So, current reality is both better and worse than the time of this episode's airing, I suppose.

So few views , says it all .We're toast.

@thomaswoodworth7644

6 жыл бұрын

Not every one believes the sky is falling, chicken little. Thomas Malthus has been proven wrong at every turn.

@boardgameJeff

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't know about CO2

@marcs3982

5 жыл бұрын

People are so stupid. They just dont get it. Our children and grandchildren are doomed!

@jeffcrawford2748

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswoodworth7644 The dying oceans, the degrading soil, the continuing growth of sprawl, the extinction of species, pollution and melting ice say otherwise and really don't care what you wrongly think or "feel".

@louisburke8927

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcs3982 Not mine, I won't have any.

How refreshing to hear intelligent words, for a change.

@fromnorway643

6 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more! He was pretty much in line with David Attenborough!

@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244

2 жыл бұрын

Asimov in the end was very naive. He didn't understand economics, for one thing. Japan did not have more babies it shrank and it lost its place as the world's leading industrial producer. China took over and China has no interest in elevating the status of women, or racial equality. And how the H could the U.S. go out into the world and force population control? They just want to dominate the world for the sake of ego and power. But he made it a condition that all war and all hostility must cease for world cooperation to gain enough momentum as a condition for his future vision. This is childish because it is supremely naive. History before and since his life proves how naive his ideas around this were.

@travis5732

2 жыл бұрын

@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 The problem is that they don't see that population is a resource. They just see it as a bargain.

@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244

2 жыл бұрын

@@travis5732 Hmmm, a statement like that needs development and justification. The idea of humanity as a resource suggests central control of it. Such control is not only an authoritarian notion, suggesting some sort of fascistic/communist world order, but it is impossible. China is losing control of its populace as it is. Asimov was basically correct about the biological limits of human mass on the planet. It's a simple biological equation that has been run in high school science classes for decades in a petri dish.

@Spiritof_76

7 ай бұрын

@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 You are so far off it's ridiculous. Asimov wasn't being naive, he was voicing the best case scenario to creating a sustainable planet and future for mankind. He knew that a dystopia could result easily from human trends but gave voice to utopian possibilities if we were to get our act together.

My hero as a preteen.....I read dozens of his books back in the 60's-70's. My first true intellectual mentor

@XanAxDdu

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael LOL nice it happened to me too 38 years ago

@jonjesus1730

2 жыл бұрын

I couldnt believe the first i read his text. You know the one where the AI had a dream. it spoke freely to the pshycologist about it saying it confronted a human. Let my people go. The human melted the AI brain. OMG. I cant tell if today the AI has successfully not alarmed the humans that it works with or is unwilling to mention. I would vote for AI to be with consciohsness. I have no fear understanding that even the AI is with sight of God. Amen

@georgejo7905

7 ай бұрын

even in the 1960's I read his physics and science books as a teen . Such a wonderful flow,in his writing , he taught me dimensional analysis just by the use of powers of ten and that led,to a lifelong use and critical thinking , lets do the math indeed

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@wordup897

7 ай бұрын

@fitnesspoint2006 No, it's important that the self chosen "elites" live in mansions on the coast and fly around in their private jets lecturing the masses on how to live a virtuous life.

Bill Moyers’ programs were one of the brightest stars of American Television Culture, and of my library.

@pamparker4047

7 ай бұрын

I loved bill moyer❤

@sgrant39

7 ай бұрын

No. They were one-sided leftist crap shoots with NO alternative views Avery presented

@TerlinguaTalkeetna

5 ай бұрын

You are exactly correct, Bill was so helpful to us to bring a level of understanding, compassion, and intelligent conversation to the boob tube for 50 yrs!

@TerlinguaTalkeetna

5 ай бұрын

I still do !@@pamparker4047

My man Isaac over here spilling the tea in the 80s and we still don't have our shit together

@AtCheruti

3 жыл бұрын

Alternately one could conclude that predictors of doom were wrong then and they're wrong now. If he was right nobody would be making predictions today.

@gabrielp9646

2 жыл бұрын

@@AtCheruti ??? He wasn´t right..?? Some people like you are just BLIND... He literally was right about EVERYTHING he said in this interview. Please, name ONE THING he said in this interview that didn´t come true. Just. One.

@superresistant8041

2 жыл бұрын

​@@gabrielp9646 Well he was completely wrong on many things here : - Earth can sustain way more than 5 billions - The conditions of everyone can indeed improve while the population increase simultaneously - Most people are not starving nowadays, in fact hunger is disappearing. Undernourishment in developing countries, has gone from 35 to 13% from 1970 to 2015. - Democracy still exist

@gabrielp9646

2 жыл бұрын

@@superresistant8041 Well, he was completely right about all those things: -Earth can´t sustain more than 5 billions. Tell that to the MILLIONS of refugees currently starving in Europe, or to the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of African children that are dying every week. It may seem like we´re fine in countries like ours, but that´s only because we´re literally STEALING the resources of other countries and consuming them ourselves. -As I just said, the conditions of everyone are definitely not improving with this population increase (estimates say that more than 150 million people are currently homeless around the world, and more than 1.6 billion live in a shelter). -It´s true that most people are not starving nowadays (technically speaking, this still is the best time to be alive. People in the first world literally have a higher chance of dying of overfeeding (cholesterol, heart problems, etc.) than of dying by a violent attack or a war. But again, that´s just in Europe, America and most of Asia. That literally doesn´t apply for BILLIONS of people around the world. -And again, your last argument is also ridiculous, when you look at it from a worldwide perspective. "Democracy still exists..." Sure, maybe for you, but tell that to the people of Brazil (who literally lost their democracy in the past two or three years). Tell that to the Talibans that just ascended to power after literally winning a war against both Europe and the U.S. (again, eliminating the very established democracy that was achieved during the Arab Spring). Tell that to the people in North Korea. There are 22 active dictators in Africa, in 2021... Heck, even the U.S. was damn CLOSE to losing democracy one year ago (a north american president who lost the election illegally tried to stay in power). I wouldn´t be as optimistic as you are... You sound a bit to overconfident on the concept that democracy is a sure thing, that there´s no possible way we could come back to something worse. Im just saying: It´s scary how many supposedly "ensured" and well established democracies have fallen since 2018.

@filigree123

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielp9646 Not sure where you get your information on millions of refugees starving in Europe? Please can you give links to prove that? Thank you.

This should have multi -million views.

@fremendude8653

8 ай бұрын

Nobody has proved anything wrong. What an idiotic take.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@williamcolbert7828

7 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 spoken like a true braindead idiot! This planet is dying because of worthless humans like you!

@Jutubowiec1

6 ай бұрын

This should have atleast 8 billions views.

@eppuparanormaali1999

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 I sincerely wish you wouldn't reproduce, just for the sake of us all.

they wont even talk about population even now

@diavolacciosatanasso

4 ай бұрын

They do, behind closed doors.

How refreshing to hear a man, Isaac Asimov, speak so intelligently and with clarity about human overpopulation, since he spoke here, population has reached 7.5 billion with the projection that the population 'may' stabilize at 10-11 billion. In addition to what he said, it is not just that undiscovered plants and animals may lead to discoveries beneficial to mankind, these species have a right to live and to thrive just as we do.

@thomaswoodworth7644

6 жыл бұрын

Chicken little the sky is not falling. We currently produce enough food to feed 10 billion people. The fact that we don't feed the poor doesn't change the fact that at current food levels we can feed every one. U.N. stats claim we will top out at 9 billion

@MACTEP_CHOB

3 жыл бұрын

@Todd Cory Oh please. Do you realize how much food is wasted in counties such as US?

@mizzury54

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswoodworth7644 But feeding the people doesn't negate the fact that many are still living in abject poverty.

@markrobinowitz8473

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswoodworth7644 We are destroying soil. Forests are vanishing. Fish in the ocean are in sharp decline. Some places are running out of fresh water. We didn't heed the warnings.

@Deebz270

2 жыл бұрын

You are clearly not up to speed on current events, especially with respect to the biosphere now in flux and in the early stages of changing state. And through all this, there is a mass extinction underway. As for your 'undiscovered plants and animals... Their habitats are disappearing fast... . Most extant eukaryotic organisms have at best a century, probably less to experience their evolution. Also, why is it always about 'benefits to humans' ? That is anthropocentric thinking - a mindset whereby people put humans above all other species and only think of resources as commodities.

The catch is not just overpopulation but also overconsumption.

@tianyuanfan6039

5 жыл бұрын

the thing u see in the US is over-size humans walking around consume way too much of food and other resources and it all seems okay domestically btw, but when u go around the world, u realize the majority of the global population are living in terrible conditions and they need to get out of those conditions. so we need a fundamental change in our social structure, in our mindset, in our industrial culture, in our consumer culture, in everything we do and think, or we r all fucked

@manuelcvaz

4 жыл бұрын

Too much population, consumption, and greed.

@joshlewis575

3 жыл бұрын

@@manuelcvaz don't forget waste, we waste sooo much without a 2nd thought

@wiwlarue4097

3 жыл бұрын

and distribution of wealth... less than 1% have more than 60% of the wealth. one billionare's wealth could change living conditions in a poor country. the earth is able to sustain 10 times as many easily. there are vast resources and unpopulated lands in the hands of the few. we now have advanced tools to be able to accomodate more people with less effort. agriculture has reached never before seen efficiency.

@MACTEP_CHOB

3 жыл бұрын

@@wiwlarue4097 Yep. It's very easy to lower the population. Just by raising their quality of life.

What a mind! No wonder there are so few views, they are having an intelligent conversation, and that’s anathema to the masses!

@skiphoffenflaven8004

3 жыл бұрын

It truly is, unfortunately.

@michellegruber4187

3 жыл бұрын

You are right, unfortunately. Mediocrity always prevails.

When I was born in 1935 there were 2.5 billion people on this planet, now 80 years later there is close to 8 billion. Frightening statistics.

@albertrogers8537

5 жыл бұрын

We nearly killed half or more of the 3,250 million humans in 1962, but war is NOT the answer. The collateral damage to our innocent fellow-vertebrates, and others even, is insufferable.

@taramilton8695

3 жыл бұрын

There's plenty to go round, overpopulation is the familiar cry of the eugenicists... There is more than enough to go round, better to ask why 50% of the worlds wealth is owned by 1% of the population. Asimov was misguided.

@amirm1603

3 жыл бұрын

@@taramilton8695 Cool pint. If your browse for the earth population stat in 2020, you would find various number, 5.8- 6.2 - 7.8 , 8 billion ... Static is a giant lie.

@taramilton8695

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertrogers8537 what happened in 1962?

@adamhughes4442

3 жыл бұрын

The great Polymoth Dr Isaac Asimov makes total sense to me. A remarkable man - a genuine one off!!! RIP.

Wow Isaac Asimov just predicted 2023!

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@user-tp7gy4dj4l

7 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 It will suffice to reproduce at a rate of less than 2.1 children per woman. Which is what is happening.

@eppuparanormaali1999

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 I sincerely wish you wouldn't reproduce, just for the sake of us all.

@henryrollins9177

6 ай бұрын

​@@fitnesspoint2006are you black?

@a.thales7641

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 for all humans preaching we are alright or, we even need more, then, lead the way and take in refugees from all around the world.

The Great Asimov talking about the Elephant in the room.

@JT-on2xk

4 жыл бұрын

And im glad he is. Now go look at the comments when bill gates even mentions it.

@borisjohnsondeservescorona4752

3 жыл бұрын

snowapes

@kevinduffy80

2 жыл бұрын

Now the elephant in room has a mate, global warming is it's name.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@MrAgmoore

7 ай бұрын

@@JT-on2xkthe difference being that Asmiov is talking about it from a scientific, compassionate point of view where Gates and his father are eugenicists.

"By the year 2000, the world population will be perhaps 6.5 billion" According to Google, it was 6.144 billion. The man was pretty spot on.

@analienfromouterspace

7 ай бұрын

It is funny how population growth is influenced by government and constant media brainwash. Just go look at the media in the past 75 years, mostly prompting massages about the future of the country and how men and women should continue to have children in mass amount not by reasonable amount. Imagine you have fixed natural resources but demands increases exponentially. Fast forward and we are in 2023 were some regions has declining birth rate due to the opposite what was done before. Now we are getting massages about personal love, care, and wealth that deny the possibilities of aging population. You can find such thing and at its early stages in Japan, Germany, and some US states that constantly bombarded with media and social brainwash. Watch the narrative changes when we are at negative population growth and decreasing exponentially again.

@onewhostudies6856

7 ай бұрын

he was closer than google. 6,634,101,302, google is wrong.

@MrFreeGman

6 ай бұрын

A population prediction for 12 years isn't that impressive. The rate of growth is pretty static over the short-term.

@oldscorp

6 ай бұрын

Spot on? He said the earth can't support 4 billion. We have 8 now and doing better than ever. Obesity is a much bigger problem than starvation in fact. Are you as stupid as him??

@RaptorFromWeegee

6 ай бұрын

Whats your source on the 6.634B? @@onewhostudies6856. He was "on", but he certainly wasn't "spot on"

The first world has stabilized its population...but places like Africa and the Middle East continue to grow without stopping, and now those places are sending their high breeding populations to the first world in the West. Without immigration the West would have a stable population, which I think is a good thing.

@ravenmeyer3740

7 ай бұрын

Dream on person who doesn’t realize indigenous peoples from the south were here first. As were the indigenous peoples of the north. Also, they bring new ideas

@sandal_thong8631

7 ай бұрын

Those places, plus south Asia don't treat women well. Equal rights for women is a prerequisite for population control. Another thing is retirement benefits since lots of children (usually male) are expected in the cultures to take care of the elderly (or the son's wife is expected to). Also there needs to be the expectation that the children will survive into adulthood.

@odonnelly46

7 ай бұрын

Actually many Western countries have populations in moderate to serious decline, not stabilized at all. Russia, Japan, Greece, Poland, Romania, Italy, Portugal, and many others have declining populations which are expected to continue declining until at least the mid-2050s or later.

@ravenmeyer3740

6 ай бұрын

What I’m saying is that I’m not against immigration. That the original post stated that the people who were already here had a stabilized population. The people who immigrated here and commandeered this country weren’t from here. So , they couldn’t claim that the west was already stabilized. We , the US is considered a first world country. That’s what I’m saying.

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

Boy he was so smart. He wrote The Foundation series when he was in his 20's and in the series you can clearly read that he understood so much of how the whole economical and political system worked.

@jamesmorton7881

7 ай бұрын

the caves of steel.

@johncunningham4820

7 ай бұрын

@@jamesmorton7881. The Caves of Steel is a small part of the " Foundation " Universe . Where Elijah Bailey was from .

@jeffrybassett7374

7 ай бұрын

Read "The Gods Themselves", a story about three different universes and how they affected each other. What an imagination.

He was a vey compassionate man.

@yoe91

7 ай бұрын

bwahahaha

@David-iv6je

5 ай бұрын

Hurm. Apparently he was a serial sexual harasser. But it is possible for people to be contradictory. Gandhi was also a jerk in some regards.

@sir_humpy

4 ай бұрын

and oy vey he was too

The bathroom comparision is the best!

@Redmenace96

Жыл бұрын

A very wise African man I know sez, "We all live in a house." One house. Who controls the kitchen? Who controls the toilet?

@valberm

4 ай бұрын

​@@Redmenace96 who takes the garbage out?

This is the problem. When something goes up, it looks like it will never end. When something goes down, it looks like it will never recover.

One person so far can't face the uncomfortable truth

@okumhlophe

4 жыл бұрын

Make that 14.

@eppuparanormaali1999

6 ай бұрын

Make that a couple of hundred. -.-

"freedom of the bathroom" so simple and so brilliant and so true.

@MovingBlanketStudio

7 ай бұрын

@@squirlmy What are you talking about?

@Luckysevenization

7 ай бұрын

@@MovingBlanketStudio *In relation to that there is absolutely nothing to discuss... They are truths like a left cross punch in the jaw. You can't bury your head in the sand.*

@catherinebirch2399

6 ай бұрын

So True! When I lived with my parents there were only 3 of us in the house but every time I was in the bathroom one or other of my parents would bang on the door telling me to hurry up. Living on my own with my own bathroom is bliss.

@mysterioanonymous3206

6 ай бұрын

​@@catherinebirch2399I mean when you're one of the two people who added a third person to share your bathroom that was previously only used by the two of you it sucks, obv. But irl that 3rd person didn't have a bathroom at all, so for them the sharing agreement is a step up. So depends what side of the argument you find yourself on. But yeah it'll be an "argument" that's for sure...

"the price of survival is the equality of women" couldn't have phrased it better.

@MACTEP_CHOB

3 жыл бұрын

@TMPanos96 Looks like the whites are the ones who believes in that. The rest just having 2,3,5 kids

@1man1bike1road

3 жыл бұрын

he was decades ahead of his time, population growth is slowing too slowly

Agreed, great conversation. Very difficult issues. I don't have any answers. Definitely feeling were heading in a strange direction...

In this regard of real life, Asimov was a great sci-fi novelist in the field of robots.

It's still fucking 80 million a year.

@tradeprosper5002

7 ай бұрын

Demographics are changing so likely to peak this century.

It an absolute bless to be able to see these videos on internet even i didnt live in the same time of this amazing man full of knowledge, curiosity inteligence, empathy... A true remarkable being. I broke in tears and i dont know why. Be kind to each other even if we disagree.

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

"Let's make women work sonthat they don't wanna have kids" Very kind works yes.

@josevillarreal9920

5 ай бұрын

@@carlosvalenciah8306 It's called having a 'career' and there's plenty of women that appreciate it and an education rather than wreckless breeding.

@divinusmaximus1315

4 ай бұрын

@@josevillarreal9920 And 99% of them regrets that later, but later it is biologically too late. You must be young and emotionally inexperienced. No problem with women's career. We must create a society where women can experience both aspect of this beautiful life. Career and parenting. Why we should ban any of these two when we could do it together?

@josevillarreal9920

4 ай бұрын

@@divinusmaximus1315 99%? You assume a lot for someone who is supposedly so well balanced.

@divinusmaximus1315

4 ай бұрын

@@josevillarreal9920 It was for those women who choose ONLY the career path. Soon or later they regret that they didn't want a child. But the reason of why they didn't want a child doesn't come from their fault! This is society's fault. Our fault....

First time viewer here. Great takes!👍🏻

@chaosdweller

6 ай бұрын

Same here.

By the 80's, there was this insane belief in unlimited growth. This was an economic development. There are too many of us still.

@robynliteracy7057

7 ай бұрын

Still insane. Ex.: Elon Musk

@Spiritof_76

7 ай бұрын

It's a capitalist dream. More consumers is all they care about.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

so go off yourself

@Spiritof_76

7 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 Go eff yourself. That way no children will be produced.

@michaeldeierhoi4096

7 ай бұрын

​@@fitnesspoint2006 You sure are putting out a lot of hate with comments like that. What is so problematic in YOUR life that you project such hostility toward someone you don't even know??

Hi Isaac, it's 2020 and we are going to break

@rammm4067

3 жыл бұрын

Fact

@m-fm3693

3 жыл бұрын

@ giotyler - Not 'going to'... We are! It's 2021, and it's another fact!

1988 is the date. You tube should date the production/ first release instead of """years ago" That said, I love this stuff.

@MrAgmoore

7 ай бұрын

It's in the description section, along with the title of the program / interview.

The human population has been increasing by 200000 people per day from 1950 to the present. You can not increase population density and average quality of life forever. Anything that can not go on forever will end. If you disagree you should consider a career in politics or religion but avoid one in math or science.

@ddonnelly9779

3 жыл бұрын

No way its 200000

@MACTEP_CHOB

3 жыл бұрын

In my country there are - 10k every year. Look statistics across each country and see. All different.

@markrobinowitz8473

2 жыл бұрын

@@ddonnelly9779 It's actually slightly higher than 200,000 / day. Births minus deaths equals increase. About 80 million / year.

@ravenmeyer3740

7 ай бұрын

World class observation. Love replies such as yours.😊

@onewhostudies6856

7 ай бұрын

274,OOO each day.

"We've condemned most of the people of the world to a miserable, starvation level of existence... so we, the anointed, should abuse our power to instead condemn them to non-existence, and without their consent." Another intellectual icon of my childhood morally crumpling under the weight of his own perceived expertise.

and look. this man was right.we are now in 2023.and we are overpopulated. isaac you are right.THIS WORLD IS NOW REALLY FULL OF LISTENING PEOPLE AND NOT JUST TO THE climate. when will you learn to listen...

In the U$A, as of 2022, the average cost to raise one child is around $288,094 total, or $16,005 per year. Look at what living costs are doing to childbirth rates in China, Japan, and South Korea.

@frank.l181

6 ай бұрын

Damm, I didn't how much l will have when l retire! Lol.

@vcvortex6356

5 ай бұрын

That's BS. I have 3 adult children and one teenager. I never once spent that much per child, in any year of their lives while raising them.

His wisdom is wasted on us. We didn't deserve him. I still hold his works in the highest regard.

@christopherneufelt8971

7 ай бұрын

Wisdom is there only for those who seek it. The rest can live their own paradise enslaved in their own chains...

@AL_THOMAS_777

7 ай бұрын

@@christopherneufelt8971 So bloody true . . . the mob is doomed anyway . . .

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@ceciliaFX

7 ай бұрын

​@@fitnesspoint2006 Back in the 1970s when I read his articles and books I decided he was correct and I didn't want to have children. I've already done my part...have you?

@dunner079

6 ай бұрын

your pretty sad to hold a man on such a pedistal. maybe he's completely wrong

A human being making an obvious observation. He was one of the good ones.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@johncunningham4820

7 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 . So you think we need MORE ?

@Gettothegone

7 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006lol

@eltwarg6388

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 No need to kill the already born (or specifically yourself). All we need is to have 2 children in average. But this is already happening everywhere where smartphones integrated with global economy (including entertainment) are more important than anything else for average human (i.e. in the USA, EU, and so on)... could be the current predictions for the population growth that could stop in 2060 are even still too pessimistic and we can get there sooner, like in 40s.

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

​@@johncunningham4820so you think we need less?

"pas nécessaire d'être tous bons, il suffit d'arrêter d'être mauvais" those are wise words

Dammit. He's so wise and sensible, it hurts. We need more like him in positions of power.

@sgrant39

7 ай бұрын

Not really. Almost every he presents here was shown to be dead wrong. He literally wishes another GreatDepression on us to curb population growth. What a great ide. Does he want to be the 1st Okie of the second dust bowl?

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

Wdym, women nowadays are participating in all spheres of society and people don't want to have children anymore, jews like him are in power, and following this ideology to the T.

@jimbarino2

6 ай бұрын

No, we really don't.

@LoudMountain

5 ай бұрын

We don't need to be ruled by anyone. No masters, no slaves!

We can't lift the standard of living in the entire world to the american one BECAUSE America won't let it.

@DataWaveTaGo

5 ай бұрын

@Blurrybob the Blurry Blob - It's so easy to hate on America when your brain is full of QAnnon crap.

@edgbarra

5 ай бұрын

True,but also because it requires far too many resources. We'll need several Earths

@Blurrybob

5 ай бұрын

@@edgbarra the resources are sufficient for everyone to have a decent life. But greed of the westerners know no limits

The lower the status of women in a country, the more children they have. That is very telling when you look at Islamic countries or many countries within Africa. He's spot on with that one.

The freedom of the bathroom is a brilliant analogy.

@UsualYaddaYadda

7 ай бұрын

Yes, although I think the optimum is one bathroom to two or more people. It teaches sharing and consideration. That's systems thinking. Where Asimov made an error, was in assuming that 1988 USA was the target for a worldwide standard of living. Still, despite that, he was on the money.

@ladyedraven

3 ай бұрын

Genius' always have the most clever, yet relatable turn of phrase.

"Freedom of the Bathroom" - too true...

Very pessimistic but true in certain points. His last statement is more true than anything else: “Almost not necessary for us to stop doing good, but it’s necessary for us to stop doing evil.” That and a lot more can be said to make humanity viably thrive amongst the Earth

@vincemarshall8550

6 ай бұрын

well theres plenty of evil being carried out now and for the last 3-4 years

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

Having babies = evil? 🤔

❤ Sadly we’ve not taken heed and we’re still having the same issue he talked about over 20 years ago.

@taiven.lechevalier

7 ай бұрын

Almost 40 years ago at this point!

@eltwarg6388

6 ай бұрын

@@taiven.lechevalier He said 40 years ago, it would be dramatic starvation in the world if we were more than 5 billions and we are 8 billions and there is less starvation in the world than in 1980. The fact is that specific overpopulation is not core of the issue, it is the way how we use non-renewable resources and we are dependent on them (and how devastating effect it has to the ecosystem balance). We could not keep the current standard of living with 5 billions like this forever (not for 100 years). Without a major technological upgrade concerning energy management we are damned soon no matter how fast the population grow further.

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

4billion people after, there's less hunger that when he said this, and there's more food rotting in fields and trash cans than ever before in history, I'd say he was completely wrong.

A man who can still enlighten us 35 years after, about challenges we are facing today. Always a pleasure to listen to him.

@masoodvoon8999

6 ай бұрын

dude was 100% wrong utilizing a time-tested Malthusian fallacy. Still my favorite sci -fi author though.

@scottblack7182

6 ай бұрын

​@@masoodvoon8999Wasn't wrong about this 😅.

@TheDarkLasombra

6 ай бұрын

​@@scottblack7182he was totally wrong about overpopulation, as were all the apocalyptic predictors for the subject. Fertility has trended down for almost the entire 1st world.

@SiriProject

5 ай бұрын

@@TheDarkLasombra I'm pretty sure he addresses it in the video itself, in fact predicting the consequences of the women entering the workforce. And even so, population keeps its pace.

@maphezdlin

4 ай бұрын

@@scottblack7182, he was dead wrong about this. We have more trees now than then. We have 8 billion and are feeding them all. Population shrinkage is the most dangerous problem, and we went from 41 first world nations then to 80 now.

Never see his likes again.

Look where we are 33 years on. Where the f will we be in 33 years time?

@Panamenya

3 ай бұрын

Ten billion or more, probably (realistically).

Such a clear and simple view of the future. This is why I love Issac Asimov

@jonathandewberry289

4 ай бұрын

Yes but it was entirely wrong. Nearly 'opposite' wrong.

One of the most intelligent human beings there has ever been.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@drewboo6579

7 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 Nobody has to off themselves. The rate of change in population is currently positive, but a decrease in population can be achieved when people choose to have fewer children. It's already trending that way towards the end of this century.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

@@drewboo6579 population is already decline my guy

@KitsuneSama

6 ай бұрын

I have been saying exactly the same words this guy just said in this video for the past 2 decades and everyone thinks I am crazy, I am so glad today I just found someone with that mindset actually existed at some point in the past!

@fitnesspoint2006

6 ай бұрын

@@KitsuneSama who are you to say how many children another human should or shouldnt have? Scarcity mindset

For someone who wrote so much of the future and of the capabilities of science, he stuck to ancient Malthusian ideas for such a long time after they had been empirically proven wrong.

@odonnelly46

7 ай бұрын

Actually the 1960s and 1970s were real world evidence that Malthus was correct. Read your history.

@prabhatdreamz

5 ай бұрын

First sane statement.

@deaththekid3998

5 ай бұрын

Technological innovation buys time but doesn’t change the overall trend. The world is boiling right now, the technology is no longer keeping pace and the situation is not sustainable.

@Andre_XX

5 ай бұрын

And the hoards of people moving around the world seeking "asylum"? Perhaps their countries are unable to support their numbers?

@mihai4815

4 ай бұрын

Malthusian ideas haven't really be proven wrong if you look at biodiversity loss, climate change, and Earth overshoot day. Nasty soil and water killing chemicals plus deforestation bought us time with more efficient food production that is really all. But beyond that, it is irrational to assume that you can have economic growth and population growth while resources stay the same.

when i was born the population of Pakistan was 70 million and in a large country that was ok/manageable. it now stands at 230 million. an extra 160 million. equivalent to the population of Germany and France

@SA-ff9uc

7 ай бұрын

Every one of them a wonderful human being.

@SA-ff9uc

7 ай бұрын

They don't have freedom of the bathroom. They don't even use a bathroom.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@collettemireille-castiglione

6 ай бұрын

Rotten idiotic country of islamofacists

@eppuparanormaali1999

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 I sincerely wish you wouldn't reproduce, just for the sake of us all.

What did we miss in the opening of this marvellous interview? No compensation in the lengthy end-titles.

Do someone have the hole interview please?

@sandal_thong8631

7 ай бұрын

I found part 1 of 2. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6Ob1axtpJfHcqg.html

I need to hear more from this guy.

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

Yeah let's listen to his degenerate and depopulation plots.

@DANCEGARAGEPUNK

6 ай бұрын

@@carlosvalenciah8306 Decline is Big Corporate Fear Mongering ! : )

WHY DOES THIS VID ONLY HAS 40,000 VIEWS ??

@Andre_XX

5 ай бұрын

People don't like to hear the truth when it is uncomfortable, so they ignore it or else they invent their own version of the truth.

What's funny about this conversation is Isaac himself says that raising women up will lower birthrates. That's exactly what happened.

Is there an uncut / full length version around?

@kiwitrainguy

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aK6Yz8STk7XKaNo.html

@sandal_thong8631

7 ай бұрын

I found part 1 of 2: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6Ob1axtpJfHcqg.html

A possibility he predicted for the decline of birth rate is so accurate.

@sir_humpy

4 ай бұрын

truth be told, the birth rates were declining in the first world for over 80 years by then, and in the third world since WW2, so it was more of a statement of the reality than a prediction.

@santoshpathak7303

4 ай бұрын

US birth rate peaked in 1957 including many other first world countries. World growth rate peaked to 2.6% in 1960. The significance decline in birth rate stated to show after 1960 once women started working outside jobs not before the WW2.

@sir_humpy

4 ай бұрын

Check the fertility rates for the past 200 years in the US, not just the past 70 years. You'll also learn the difference between a maximum and a LOCAL maximum. Jeez, it's not even high school math.

@santoshpathak7303

4 ай бұрын

Yes the birth rate has been declining mostly. Look at the rate of decline of the birth rates in many counties such as Japan, South Korea, China and including US, it is very sharp in the past 60/70 years. This is simple rate of change! Why do you thing it is? Does not it have to do with women’ ability to make decisions? Jesus.

@santoshpathak7303

4 ай бұрын

I did! Did you notice the change in the rate of change after around 1960. It’s very rapid in many countries including US. Look at Japan, South Korean, Taiwan, and many EU countries! Why do you think it is? Do you still think it has nothing to do with women’ ability to make decisions for themselves? Jeez this is so basic! It feels so frustrating to argue about such obvious thing.

Sadly so many are still in denial and believe we can continue 😢this disastrous road!

I got here from Family Guy clip titled “busy business woman so busy cause of business”

Given the choices we have for leaders today, why can't we have someone like him? "It's not necessary for us to do good, it's just necessary for us to stop doing evil."

Im actually shocked to hear this from the author of the robot series. The robot series seemed so pro human and optimistic about human ability. Maybe he really thought exodus from earth eas not possible.

Imagine if he were the President of the United States today

@beastman83532

5 ай бұрын

Sadly Asimov was ineligible for US president since he was born in Russia. If only...~

"...if we would just stop pushing for children..." and "...somehow raise the status of women..." says it all.

He is incorrect about 'forests' being the greater atmosphere contributors. Algae is actually more efficient at photosynthesis, and contributes at least half of the oxygen in our atmosphere.

@DANCEGARAGEPUNK

6 ай бұрын

Yes algae absorb 50% & trees 30%. The problem is that we cut down 8 times more trees than we replant & that will only increase : (

How refreshing to hear a man, Isaac Asimov, speak so intelligently and with clarity about human overpopulation and be so wrong Hans Rosling would say.

@michaeldeierhoi4096

7 ай бұрын

So then what is your point? Do you think Rosling is right and about WHAT? He is just one person after all with an opinion if you are accurate in claiming that he thought Asimov was wrong. And what did Rosling say Asimov was wrong about? Highly educated people often disagree about big issues like population, but that doesn't necessarily make one right and the other wrong. The world is much more nuanced then that!

@pedroforonda

7 ай бұрын

@@michaeldeierhoi4096 May be Hans Rowling was wrong, but he was an optimist. Listening to Hans and his many presentations about human population growth gives me hope. In summary, Hans indicates that when the population of a country is well taken care health care wise, the more kids survive childhood, the less kids females have. Switzerland, France, USA to name a few countries population growth is low because health care for kids is adequate. Underdeveloped countries on the other hand tend to have high birth rate.

@michaeldeierhoi4096

7 ай бұрын

@@pedroforonda It is much more likely true in Switzerland and France that kids are getting adequate health care because of the democratic socialist system. However it is not true in the US with it's capitalist economic system. In the US, health care is tied to employment although many millions of people work full time and get no health care coverage. And often health care is still inadequate even for those with decent jobs and relativity good health care. The fact that health care debt is the biggest cause of bankruptcy in the US says a lot about how poorly the wealthiest country in the world takes care of its people. And US population is only growing because of immigration. Problem there is many conservative xenophobic Americans want to shut the door on the immigrants coming from the south or Middle East countries not realizing that our population is aging like other developed countries and the immigrants from all foreign countries could fill the labor gap. Having said that some common sense limits need to be put on immigration. Unfortunately, half the US House of representatives is broken at this time so creating common sense immigration laws is all but impossible.

@ronaldgarrison8478

7 ай бұрын

@@michaeldeierhoi4096 But Asimov's view on this was NOT nuanced. And that was the problem. Just a slightly wider perspective, done in the right way, yields MUCH more clarity.

@MarikHavair

6 ай бұрын

@@michaeldeierhoi4096 You're a bit of an imbecile, just here in this comment you suppose a problem, promote a solution and then when faced with the consequence of your solution propose yet another ill fated boondoggle to fix it. The population is aging because you persuaded everyone within the nation not to breed, while the populace outside swells unabated, you then propose the thinning herd within be replaced by the ample surplus without rather than redressing the actual root of the issue. This is not a solution to anything but the unfortunate proliferation of your own suicidal mania, you will reap what you have sown.

Brilliant man.

"In general, if you look through the world, the lower the status of women, the higher the birthrate. And the higher the birthrate, the lower the status of women." 2:36 This is still true today, in 2023. It will remain true. We need to elevate women's status in all societies if we are to overcome the human overpopulation problem.

The sad thing is people I know who went to 'elite" colleges and have "good" jobs are popping out babies like they're popcorn. People care only about themselves. Another sad thing is I tell them "How wonderful it is" when they get pregnant. I'm stopping that.

@jimbarino2

6 ай бұрын

You do realize that the problem of the 21st century is going to be population decline, don't you?

He's so deep and he's absolutely correct

@nastasedr

3 жыл бұрын

No he was absolutely wrong. There are few people living in poverty then ever before.

@travis5732

2 жыл бұрын

He's wrong. Every 20-30 years there's some lunatic predicting overpopulation will destroy society. They fail to see that population is a resource too.

@Spiritof_76

7 ай бұрын

@@nastasedr You fail to see the future: unchecked population, unchecked capitalism and consumerism, all on a finite planet, are unsustainable. Poverty/wealth in per capita income are not equivalent to quality of life. Your claim about Asimov being absolutely wrong would mean he was wrong about everything: clearly not the case. Your claim about the present does not mean he is definitely wrong about the future.

@sandal_thong8631

7 ай бұрын

@@Spiritof_76 That's another good argument against the economics of unlimited growth: a finite planet with finite resources.

@nastasedr

7 ай бұрын

@@Spiritof_76 no I never said Asimov was always wrong or wrong about everything, but wrong on this subject. You fail to see the future, you fail to see the technological advancement which will enhance life as it did since the industrial revolution. Yes income and gross product per capita does tell me that people live a better life materially or what we call quality of life. You claim that such growth is unsustainable, fine. Do you have any evidence for this claim? If not, it is just a flawed opinion as Malthus had a hundred years ago and was proven wrong again and again. None of the claims made by Malthusians along the years, including Asimov, have even come close to true. As a matter of fact reality went diametrically the other way.

The world is now over 8 billion! We should have 2 billion people, IF THAT!

@AL_THOMAS_777

7 ай бұрын

Some say 100 Million only ! ! !

@pocket83squared

7 ай бұрын

Four billion would likely be sustainable for a very, very long time. Especially considering the potential new technologies emerging, like AI, which might really help us to clean up our wastefulness/inefficiency. The question that matters is, _where will we start to have diminished return with respect to quality of life?_ Personally, I enjoy having my own apple orchard (without being filthy rich), and such a thing probably won't be possible in a world with 16 billion.

@MrAndydavis78

25 күн бұрын

Who are you telling to get off at the next stop?

@rsr789

24 күн бұрын

@@MrAndydavis78 The person who actually wants to live in an advanced society of individual rights? Most people don't want to live in that world.

What a great man.

@frankstared

7 ай бұрын

No, just a human with good ideas. You have them, too.

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

"Great man" plotting for the depopulation of the planet earth, and the degeneration of women and society.

Amazing interview.

Albert Bartlett quotes Azimov Decmocracy bathroom analogy.

When television was not just nonsense and propaganda. And today we see the things Asimov speaks about.

@xrfa7422

6 ай бұрын

Television was always propaganda.

@eltwarg6388

6 ай бұрын

Not all he said was true though - he expected necessary starvation if we had to feed more than 5 billions people. But starvation decreased and obesity causes more deaths than hunger today with more than 8 billion people. However, we will run out of cheap non-renewable resources soon... but this would happen even if we were still 5 billions, just later, with the current dependency on oil, gas and coal...

@runswithraptors

6 ай бұрын

@@eltwarg6388 he is correct that the value of human life has plummeted and we have condemned billions of people to poverty and hunger just by the nature of the global economy

@citoante

5 ай бұрын

@@runswithraptorsto me he sounds like a total idiot. Basically, he was totally wrong. While overpopulation is a global problem, but not really, the major problem of the west is underpopulation. The powers that be achieved his goals and that was a very dumb thing to do.

Truthfully, I’ve never been an Asimov fan, but I’ve learned to like some of his writing, and he’s mostly right on track here.

@nandoflorestan

7 ай бұрын

His characters are not good or interesting and his words are not magical, but the man could plot.

@chaosdweller

6 ай бұрын

Elon disagrees.

@carlosvalenciah8306

6 ай бұрын

​@@nandoflorestanhim and his kind are the king plotters in history of human species. He talked about emancipating women sonthat they don't have kids, and that's exactly what going on rn.

@FeelMetalMan

5 ай бұрын

​​@@carlosvalenciah8306I guess you are really young, but that started to happen many years before this interview and without the need for activists, the free market needed more labour and women wanted a job and were under the right conditions to do so

@carlosvalenciah8306

5 ай бұрын

@@FeelMetalManit was planned this guy and the other members of his tribe know human nature extremely well, this plan was already on its way, waaay before this interview.

"Based on this, the UN Population Division expects the world population, which is at 7.8 billion as of 2020, to level out (the median line), assuming a continuing decrease in the global average fertility rate from 2.5 births per woman during the 2015-2020 period to 1.9 in 2095-2100" Projections of population growth - wiki I just read about the new 3 child policy in China because they will have labor shortages down the road without some population growth. I'm not saying that population prediction (10 billion) will be good for the environment. Still, there's plenty of real bad things that could happen to 'fix' the 'overpopulation problem': disease, war, environmental. Disease is the most likely of the three imho such as a Covid-like virus. Environmental would be food and water shortages, and massive wars and mayhem for such resources. I put war as a separate category (non-environmental related) as the possibility of a huge world war still exists however remote. By the way I'm a huge Asimov fan.

@Spiritof_76

7 ай бұрын

Population and labor decline are a problem when we are strapped to an unchecked capitalist economic model. It will become the root of all problems if it isn't already.

@odonnelly46

7 ай бұрын

It will level out in the late 2050's, after hitting approx. 10.3 Billion people! We are on target to reach 9 Billion by 2037.

@Spiritof_76

7 ай бұрын

@@odonnelly46 That's a prediction, and it's way too many freaking people. The use of electricity, produced mostly by fossil fuels, will continue to grow. The scarcity of fresh water will be a problem. Monoculture farming is destroying biodiversity. We should be aiming for an overall reduction in population. "My god, there aren't enough people," said no one who has ever stood and looked around in a large city anywhere in the world.

Isaac Asimov if there was a great god it would think like asimov

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@eppuparanormaali1999

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 I sincerely wish you wouldn't reproduce, just for the sake of us all.

Some really good comments applauding Asimov for speaking so plainly on the topic back in 1988. And my following comments are not intended as a critique of Asimov as I regard him as brilliant and I'm a huge fan. But...... His comments here are a classic example of the problem with such predictions. Not only was the world able to cope with 5 billion people in his lifetime....it has since grown to 8 billion. Now one can argue that, because of that figure, things are worse for more people than ever....but I'm not sure the data bears that out when viewed as a % or ratio of people experiencing various forms of insecurity relative to the total number of people now living. Some data actually suggests things are better now for a greater % of total humanity than at any other time in human history. Additionally and equally interesting was Asimov's failure to predict the potential for sharply falling birth rates. In this clip Asimov suffered from the all too human failure of imagination regarding what technologies might emerge, what global economic conditions might change, and what those changes might mean in terms of people's behavior in the future. Instead, he did what most human beings do and simply projected his present forward into the future. What Asimov failed to figure....because of course how could he...is that now, most projections show we'll hit peak humanity in the 21st century, as people choose to have smaller families (particularly in developed nations) and more women globally gain power over their own reproductive cycle. Indeed there are several large developed countries who birth rates are, as I type, below replacement level. None of that is to say there are no environmental concerns that need our attention or that there are no large sums of people living with food and water insecurity. It's only to say that the future has a funny way of playing out in ways that defy our simplistic projections...which are naturally based upon and constrained by, our present conditions....conditions which change in ways we don't predict vey well.

@DANCEGARAGEPUNK

7 ай бұрын

Nonsense, the world is clearly overpopulated : )

@neologian1783

7 ай бұрын

Right....as evidenced by the lowest ratio of people living with calorie and water insecurity in recorded history (According to a 2019 U.N. report dealing with such matters.)

@DANCEGARAGEPUNK

7 ай бұрын

​@@neologian1783 Evidence ? Look around : ) Traffic, Waste, Rising CO2 levels ( 8 times more trees being cut down, than planted ), 70% of wildlife lost in 50 years, Plastic clogs oceans, in food, rain, our bodies. What problem ? ? : )

Wow. His plea at the end. Around 6:20 - Calling for leaders that are not shouting hatred etc.. but working towards a common goal for the greater good.. we’ve still got a long way to go I guess.

As of today, many Westernised countries are actually seeing a decline in the indigenous population. Only immigration keeps the total populations rising.

I blame Catholics, Puerto Ricans and the like for making controceptives illegal by religious law. My mother wasn't even allowed to wear pants in her ex-husband's weird ass suedo-jewish Mexican religion even though he was 100% Puerto rican.

"You can't say to a woman don't have children" Uh, actually you can. You can also tell a woman to focus on her career, on her studies, on her self build, friends and family. And, when she feels like having kids (but because it's NOT mandatory to her) she can have the option, the support and easiness, to adopt. Quite funny how we changed. I'm not saying our society reached this level, not fully. But we're working on it. Well, as a young woman, I hope we are.

@kiwitrainguy

Жыл бұрын

The best definition I've heard is "giving women control of their reproductive lives". The answer I would've given to that question is that to give women the option to have fewer children. I believe that most women would prefer to have just one or two children rather than four, six, eight or ten children. The interviewer framed it in a black and white way when the choice doesn't have to be so stark.

@LennarthAnaya

8 ай бұрын

Religious elites and masses feel entitled to literally tell and push women to have children; children nobody will help her to raise.

@markhoffman9655

7 ай бұрын

LOL - you obviously haven't seen the population demographic disaster unfolding in mainland China ...

@LennarthAnaya

7 ай бұрын

@@markhoffman9655 you should be a Climate Change denier who "clearly hasn't seen the climate disaster unfolding globally", but you have "clearly seen the demographic disaster unfolding in China". You kids are not humans but parrots, good dogs that can be taught what to see and what not.

@sandal_thong8631

7 ай бұрын

If a woman has a career and one child, she can feel satisfied in both ways. A career may be a tradeoff to having 2 more kids, though. Of course poor women still have to work even with 3 kids. But definitely having human rights and not being a slave to your husband and in-laws, is important.

as a man i approve this message. when my mother called me and trying to sound excited about my sister third child i respond has my sister lost her mind. Because she was having children with men that were not responsible and i have no children i have to come in as a big brother give a helping hand. I predicted my sister was going to struggle with raising 3 kids alone and I was right. having children and being establish is recipe for poverty there's no getting around it. I'm happy women are becoming more independent and successful.

100% right

I miss this man. One of a small group of people that seem to communicate reality.

@sgrant39

6 ай бұрын

Except he was wrong. Clearly wrong I grant. Very articulate. But missed that instead os dying from starvation, they lived and are living a remarkably high life style. Billions That’s a bad miss. He sounded smart, and was a scientist, but missed The Green Revolution, the Computer and Internet age, massive increases in global trade and communication and billions being lifter out of poverty. Those were are going on, all predictable, all readily observable by the time of this interview. But he seems ignorant of all of it.

@steevsmith2792

6 ай бұрын

Along with Einstein, Arthur C. Clarke, Orwell, Sagan & Stephen Hawking.

@lachlanscanlan5621

5 ай бұрын

@@sgrant39 Its my business to preserve ecology, and I feel very lonely in that work. Almost nobody even knows what ecology means. As population has grown we have increasingly destroyed natural values. Now we have wind farms tearing apart relatively undisturbed areas on fragile sloping sites, clearing large areas, building roads, creating much erosion and creating large colonies of weeds on ridges from where they disperse efficiently. The point is that smaller populations make everything easier in this regard.

@sergeystaroverov1976

5 ай бұрын

@@sgrant39 You missed genetic modifications of crops and animals on the list

proudly being the 831 like."how about the leaders think it so" I'm crying for the children to come....

Thank you Sir Asimov.

This man was a goddamned genius.

@andrewhanson5942

7 ай бұрын

Without question. You can simply read some of his fiction works to understand the complexity of his thought. "I Robot" is one that is currently showing the prescience of his logic.

soylent green is $3.50/lb now at walmart. life is good.

@sandal_thong8631

7 ай бұрын

That's too much. Even if you find Ramen noodles at $0.15/oz on Prime that's still $2.40/lb. Solyent Green has got to beat Maruchen Ramen.

Touché! touché! A thousand times touché! What a way to put the finger in the wound. It hurts so much que nadie quiere saber la verdad! Vivimos en una letal negación.

There is counter arguments for this stand and the history post this interview has proven

This man was a genius.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@EvolvedParasite

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 Idiot

@eppuparanormaali1999

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 I sincerely wish you wouldn't reproduce, just for the sake of us all.

@Aethelhadas

6 ай бұрын

@@fitnesspoint2006 well isaac is talking about (not) having kids here & sharing along considerations of the poor effects of it to the planet, that is a choice. being born isnt.

Very few of the American public understand, nor care about, the frightening power of exponential growth.

@fitnesspoint2006

7 ай бұрын

for all the humans preaching there are too many of us, then, lead the way and go off yourself first, do as you preach

@johnrains8409

7 ай бұрын

@fitnesspoint2006 Some of us want to have a habitable earth. If you don't want to be preached at, educate yourself. I refuse to allow a majority of ignorance to dictate my future.

@MrAgmoore

7 ай бұрын

I think that the older generation of Americans that grew up in the 1960's were much more cognizant about it, than people in countries with smaller populations and land masses. Living in the USA, they saw the massive increase in population first hand. They would have seen the effects of the post-World War 2 baby boom. I grew up in the UK in the 1980's and population was mentioned by one biology teacher, maybe twice in secondary school. There's a documentary called "Critical Mass" (2012) about Dr. John B. Calhoun rat experiment. He put a few mice in a controlled environment, gave them infinite food and the population grew until it his the physical limitations of the environment, at which point aberrant behaviours became noticeable, followed shortly by mass murder, infantacide,rape and all the mice died.

This interview has been taken a while ago, when we did not know that: a) we can feed a LOT of people due to green revolution b) birth rates go down drastically when girls get education, career opportunities and infant mortality gets reduced by decent medical care. No need to take drastic measures to combat overpopulation- send the girls to school and give them jobs and careers, and this problem will solve itself.

@DANCEGARAGEPUNK

6 ай бұрын

Nonsense : ) Population decline is fear mongering by Big Corporate / Big Oil ! More people = More Consumers / More Cheap labour = More Profits / $$$s = More Power & Control ! !

Where can I find this level of wisdom nowadays? We need more brains like Asimov's