How do you guys normally play your CK3 games, wide or tall?

@Ffourteen

Жыл бұрын

I tried to be the roman emperor several times. Every time got bored long before I was even close.

@Nolanrooney17

Жыл бұрын

I like to cycle between the two from character to character. Go wide for my starting character to try getting at least a kingdom then his son will try and stabilize and develop the territory then his son is back to conquering

@floydeus

Жыл бұрын

Im obsessed with sardinia tall games

@Zieley

Жыл бұрын

@@Nolanrooney17 great method for keeping a realm together! Lots of disasters come about from people expanding too quickly, then getting into faction problems

@capobvious1989

Жыл бұрын

Your wide is taller, than my tall.))))))

Aniconism is actually pronounced an-ICON-ism, as in, no icons. That's why it makes temples cheaper, you don't have to pay for, like, huge stained glass and giant jesus statues and stuff

@clovebeans713

Жыл бұрын

That would make for less beautiful cathedrals

@MrDMIDOV

Жыл бұрын

Ayy my dudes let’s go pray in the local mud cube!

@proofsofislampi

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDMIDOV much more humble than the gold plated church surrounded by homeless people

@kellyjandrews

Жыл бұрын

This has to be one of the most educational comments on KZread. 🤘

@internetguy2760

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDMIDOV It’s better that way I think

Ziely: "Let's play WIDE!" Also Ziely: Plays one county TALL anyway.

@brosef4154

Жыл бұрын

One county wide challenge

@TheKillaShow

Жыл бұрын

So a normal play through?

@Jamie-st6of

Жыл бұрын

thats just how you do ck3 lol

@sumitrashrestha642

Жыл бұрын

Zieley doesn't know what wide is

@red7880

Жыл бұрын

Playing wide doesn't mean completely ignoring your capital, pretty important to make sure it's well developed in wide games as well to make sure your vassals don't get more powerful than you

Itd be nice if wide had more playstyle variety. A decentralized realm with vassal/alliances around core terroritory. Conquer an release friendlt kingdoms that have some form of alliance that can't be broken for like 50-100 years

@isengrom6883

Жыл бұрын

Or if you try and leave the alliance early, everyone the alliance declares war on you

@DutchGabbers

Жыл бұрын

It is possible, aslong as you share a religion or have the tenents that allow it. You can get a LOT of alliances especially in the Fate of Iberia DLC.. Place dynasty members on the throne, or try and capture hostages like some of the non heir children of the ruler and recruit them, them culturally and religiously convert them and then marry them to your dynasty. And assassinate the rest of the children leaving your chosen one the heir of the lands.. While the guardian process might even turn them into a friend which increases the chance of them accepting alliances by a lot. That is how I managed to pretty much conquer the entirety of Europe as a Muslim ruler sultan in Iberia in barely a hundred years

@windwind3170

Жыл бұрын

CK2 had this mechanic. If a heathen ruler is holding vassals of your faith you could declare a Religious Liberation war and if you win all the enemy's vassals gain independence and become your Tributary state.

@rusticfox4283

Жыл бұрын

They need to add tributaries back like they had in ck2

@minmaxtax

Жыл бұрын

U can give those kingdoms to a dynasty member. As long as u are dynasty head u can call them into all your wars and offer to join their wars. Makes for a fun endgame to watch those kingdoms expand and for good RP to keep your dynasty on all those thrones.

"Today we gonna play wide" spends most the game playing tall and expanding as a secundary task.

I don't think Crusader Kings 3 is overly tall/wide split. I find that even when you play wide you are micro managing your own demesne as well culture when you carve out your own. Playing with a Tall mindset is just part of a successful Wide playthrough. Trust me you can have a very stable empire when you have 6 Silver/gold mines in your personal holdings, and with disinherit it's pretty easy to manage partition.

@chrisrubin6445

2 ай бұрын

yep, thats most of my games

@ozzymandias7649

2 ай бұрын

@@chrisrubin6445 Haven't played CK3 in about a year, interesting to hear that experience is still happening

It's funny that this kinda of play style requires you to pay much more attention to each of your vassals

@Zieley

Жыл бұрын

Felt like I was running a vassal daycare this video 😵‍💫

@UncleGooe

Жыл бұрын

I think having a few powerful vassels would be way easier with clans style, especially because of all the kids you pump out.

@user-vf9ri2xq4i

4 ай бұрын

​@@Zieleyisn't that literally what ck3 is XD

Love your content. Please keep it up. Would love more full playthroughs if you're into that. I really wanted to see a full going tall playthrough or your Carthage playthrough till end game.

Another great video mate! Been waiting to see what you'd come up with next. Really like these long form videos, thanks for all your effort ♥️

Always love to see another video from you! Love the quality and quips, keep it up!

Zieley. I found your channel just some weeks back and I am so happy I did! Great meme quality on the vids and I am learning so much through them. Keep up the good work

i dont feel like its fair calling a 50 county kingdom wide, thats usually the size of my tall ones after they get some buffer zones. Wide needs to be at 200+ counties at which point you will be getting over 100 in tax, it's fairly achievable once you're declaring holy kingdom wars, but its still way more effort than setting up a nice strong duchy. The upside of wide is forming your own big religion with communion and being the temporal head, tons of extra income and directed holy wars.

@allancg1022

Жыл бұрын

I am with you in this. 50 counties is at best one empire, in most cases even a kingdom. The challenge is trying to keep everything united, especially with shitty characters. You can't just put speed 5 and wait for profit

@TMThesaurus

Жыл бұрын

And I wouldn't call a 50-county kingdom tall, so...

@seameus91

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Zieley should come back 1 or 2 times to this playthrough. Larger kingdom/empire, eventually 1/2/3 empire titels. This way we can also enjoy him more!

@ladlb8062

Жыл бұрын

I agree 50 countys ist Just the beginning, after Holding at least two full empires it gets spicy until U ja e primogenitur or at least House of Wessex that your heir can hold all of it. Jep in my aktual playthrough i have about 250 countys (want to unite India) and my income is about 220 gold per month, alone 80 from Religion (theokratik without head) and my full army ist about 120k....in ca 2-3 decades the mongols will come and i can crush them😁

Took way too long, glad to see you’re back at it again.

@super_splinter7709

Жыл бұрын

this is my friend Owen

Love these videos with alternative strategies just banking on yoyr knowledge of the game to leverage a hugely op campaign

Love your videos. Especially love the challenges!

Great video! You threw me off at 45:00 with the fake notification LOL, later noticing I had Discord off.

Me and my friend owen love to watch your video's (he has commented aswell), keep it up!

@owentjes

Жыл бұрын

This is my friend Splinter

@007Hutchings

Жыл бұрын

These are my friends Splinter and Owen. :) :)

Currently playing a wide Canary Islands run, conquered the gold mines in Mali and the Sardinian silver mines. Boutta go invade France. Wide can be fun when you’re barely holding everything together and stretching your resources like crazy

@stoopidapples1596

Жыл бұрын

That’s not a run I’d ever expect anyone to bother doing...

@carl4889

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty fun taking all the mines. Pick a German/Czech start to take the three in central Europe, mosey over to Sardinia, steal the Byzantine's mine, then colonize Mali and you can be rolling in money without needing to play very wide at all.

@hungryepicboys8895

Жыл бұрын

@@carl4889 slowly gonna steamroll my way up to the european mines - thanks for the reminder

Love your videos Z-man, you always find new ways of breaking the game by using its own mechanics and you always put an effort to delve and explain said mechanics. Keep on keeping on!

Favorite ck3 channel by far

Sweet. I just saw this and can't wait to watch it

Neat I would be interested in seeing this strategy develop

Zieley: How do you guys normally play your CK3 games, wide or tall? Me: Badly.. I play my CK3 games badly..

this is just tall in disguise

Ah, for once I feel ahead of the curve here Zieley! I was inspired by your previous “tall” videos into doing some research trying to optimize tax income from vassals. In theory, it looks like theocracy vassals are the most profitable, as their tax obligation scales with their liege’s level of devotion. At max, they give an impressive 55% tax, which has a small number of extra buffs that can be applied to push it over 60%. Unfortunately that demands that you are a religious icon, which usually isn’t the case and so most of the time their tax output will be much lower. The real money is in mid-late game feudal vassals, which have a much lower base tax contribution, but way more buffs that apply to them. At extortionate taxes, with scutage, high crown authority, and most importantly, the ‘terrified’ status with the relevant dynasty legacies and lifestyle traits, they can push up to almost break even with theocracies. Over 50% tax obligation is very possible. The problem with that is that not all vassals can be terrified, and their opinion of you will likely be relatively low, especially on succession, due to stacking malices from absolute CA and Extortionate taxes. This can be offset, but it can be tricky. Also, not every character is able to take full advantage of the terror bonus if you really need to go down a different lifestyle. Martial and Stewardship do have similar if slightly less optimal paths though, so most of the time you should be near peak income. Touching briefly on republics, they’re ironically not very good at stacking income. They max out at just over 40% (you need the republican legacy tradition, and it only applies to Count+ vassals) but they are very stable, and only need a light dip into stewardship to reach their potential. Overall, maximizing income from vassals is WAY harder than optimizing your own demesne but it can be rewarding. Ideally I’d recommend doing this by playing a medium style with a large ish kingdom (not an empire) that’s only as large as you feel comfortable micromanaging your dukes. It’s frankly not a playstyle that’s a ton of fun, but I’d recommend a playthrough just because you can learn some things that can be useful in any other playthrough.

@brosef4154

Жыл бұрын

If you don't go up to an empire you can't have tons of kids because they'll break off your kingdom titles. It's like a catch 22.

@Mobius1105

Жыл бұрын

@@brosef4154 true, so this isn’t ideal for a true wide style. I’d recommend using either a single already large kingdom like Germany, or my preference is to stay a duke for as long as possible and click the “form new kingdom” button only when you’re suffering severe overextension. In general though, yeah it does take serious succession management. Do not be afraid to click the disinherit button.

@jdunnatl

Жыл бұрын

I like to grow just large enough to keep any potential rivals small. Take valuable land from threatening empires to raise my income while diminishing theirs. I just keep the best territories.

@bryany1217

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with the theocracy part tho. I find that they generally give a lot more taxes even when I don't have a high lvl of piety. Also they never revolt. The real percentage that feudal vassals give you is very low compared to theocracies. In addition It takes forever to modify feudal contracts for extortionate taxes/levies

@wiwersewindemer4437

Жыл бұрын

Actually, with some perks, dynasty legacies, the culture tenet republican legacy, and count level republican vassals, you can get to 100% tax contribution.

Challenge idea. Can you conquer the 4 corners of the map as fast as you can and create a hybrid culture from it?

@jetex1911

Жыл бұрын

That would be North Germanic, Guinean/Akan, Indo-Aryan/Burman and Mongolic wouldn't it?

@ladlb8062

Жыл бұрын

Sounds a nice Challenge 👍

I would love to see gameplay of a longer time period so that it isn't just the first 100 years or so but up to, say, year 1100.

I actually combine tall scholar dev stack with wide high clan opinion. My empire went from Spain to Egypt and my army is like 120k and my gold 40k lol and even before when i'm still in al andalus my army reach 12k pretty easy while other at best could only reach 4k

I'm watching you play and i got an idea for a chalenge. Is it possible to recreate the conquest of Alexander within CK3 ? So starting in Macedonia, is it possible to conquer Greace, Persia, Egypt and Push up to India within 1 lifetime ??

An hour long video? Hell yeah!

Amazing intros!

Interested in how you would do the new Canary Islands tall. All hills, but the religion has the monolith tenet so hills are good. Not a ton of holding slots though.

I usually play tall until a certain point and then go wide until i can no longer handle my vassals and then strategically fracture my realm

i feel like this was more just showing cool things you can do in ck3

The Transoxiana/Khorasan region is a very strong starting region in CK3. Lots of 5-7 barony counties, multiple holy sites, and the royal tolls modifier if you form the Bactrian Empire is completely broken.

@seameus91

Жыл бұрын

About where is it located?

@brennanmerritt9878

Жыл бұрын

@@seameus91 modern day Kyrgyzstan/Tajikistan/Uzbekistan

@carl4889

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the sourthern part of central asia. Looks for the duchies of Merv, Balkh, Sogdh, Khorezm, Uzboy, Osrushana, Ferghana, Kashgar, Khotan, Karashar and Kara Khoja.

roll the "song for dennis" cue for zieley

Hey Ziel, did you see the social stream event with Alzabo and stuff? I had a feeling someone was missing, maybe if they want to do something again in the future, you can ask to come along? It was a fun watch.

So far I've struggles with Daura Daruma (or something, I don't remember her name) for the mother of us all achievement to unite Africa. I've gotten close 3 times and becoming feudal had fricked me over twice while the next one was war for inheritance where my character changed 3-4 times in a decade & everyone hated me cuz i was someone's random grandchild.

@jackochainsaw

Жыл бұрын

I haven't even attempted that achievement yet, and you are right, don't doubt yourself, it is Daura (mother of us all). It gives me the chills just thinking about it. I messed up Fika rather stupendously. I think there must be a curse in Africa. Not sure which of the religions is sending it my way. What sucks is starting tribal, in the last patch they kind of made it a bit easier to get to feudal now, but you have to prepare for the transition. You need a bit of gold saved up before you switch over.

@digitaljungle7154

Жыл бұрын

I managed it my first time surprisingly. However it was awful. I was constantly fighting pretenders and rebels. On top of that independence wars crush you. Before I finished it I was fighting an independence war with 300k while I had less than 100k. It was hell and I will never do it again but I got it

@jackochainsaw

Жыл бұрын

@@digitaljungle7154 I'm glad you did. It's quite the commitment, especially in Iron Man. I've got this massive Tulunid Empire that has formed from Egypt, it's got the whole of Arabia. I've noticed some changes since patch 1.7.1. Bigger Kingdoms form and stay intact for longer.

@digitaljungle7154

Жыл бұрын

@@jackochainsaw Feel free to try it. I didn't know this for my game but setting realm stability higher is Ironman compatible. It makes playing wide much easier. Despite this I play exclusively tall now

@ladlb8062

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i did it in my second playthrough IT was really tough espezially the civil wars. In the middle my Empire broke into His 3 parts and IT was hard to conquer it back. I give u the advice to conquer the goldmines in Ghana and make IT to your Capital the extra Money helps a lot. And don't make your Religion Pluralismen IT was a pain in the ass to Convert all after conquering Afrika, because it Takes longer with it, some countys going Back to old religion... Al Lot of times And there are so many cultures with Strong believers...i hab only Like 20 years left after achieving it, IT was really close, but i did get it, good luck in your Run!

about the "not rightfull liege" thing, you actually make more from owning them directly rather than giving them to another subject as if they give roughly 15% of their resources to your vassal and you get roughly 15% of that means you get 2,25% of their tax instead of 7,5%

Not sure if someone already stated that but the %tax increase of desert cultures is baseline. So they're a quite useful tool (in deserts, drylands and oases) to increase the money you get from other tax buildings.

I came for the content. Stayed for the tzeeeee

i feel not many people talk about just how strong horse archers are, they do a base 45(!) damage, the only counter they have is the late game crossbowmen, they get an EXTRA 45 DAMAGE IN STEPPES, so each of these bad boys do 90 damage in steppes, they also have a +20 damage in plains, decent pursuit, it's just op imo

Still remember the Spiffing Brit's no vasal cheese.

I have a minor gripe about the way you did it, you can actually usurp your lieges title via faction without having a war if you just wait until the discontent rises. If you don't wait your liege will always declare war.

Please do a vid on how to avoid getting murdered and how to manage a kingdom/empire. I only get a few generations in before each of my player characters gets murdered only a few years after taking the throne and all the vassals hate each of them

@ladlb8062

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thats the hardest Part of the Game in my opinien. First it's good If you Spend a bit Money in buildings and developement in your Capital after reaching Kingdom Level, before you have the Empire. If you have problems that they kill you, Go Intrige tree, IT helps to defend against IT and have a wife with good Intrige. And you should look, why they hatte you you shouldnt habe more than 2 douchys (-25 for every extra douchy) Sometimes IT helps to give vassals some other vassals.the one you give away can No longer bei in a factoon against you the other Likes you more after this. If you have enough gold u can give them gold, that they Like you(If it should Go fast). In Long Run start Personal schemes, so that they Like you. Your spymaster should Always Like at least +1 , it's better to have an Bad spymaster that Likes you, than a good one that hates you, Same for Dok and the foodtest guy. You can merry Family members with Dangerous vassals(Fraktion Leader) or befreiend with them. If they your alles, or friend they cant Go in Fraktion against you and If they Like you it's unlikely. Get a Stong allies Out of your Empire that can Help you in a civil fight. Also good ist a String dynasty member outside from your Empire that u can call to war in a civil war. If you are Desperate give a dynasty member a Kingdom and let IT become Independent, than you can call it in civil wars, you will lose that land but it can Help to Service the First years and If the civil war comes and you win you can Take their titles and Bann/kill them, If it's necessary. But be careful, If ist a String Family in your Empire (your Dynastie) this will make them hatte you. To win this civil wars you have to look who ist the Leader of this Fraktion, If you can Cat h this Leader you win. For siege all of His land you will get +100% warscore(this doesnt mean you win the war for sure, you Just get These points, but in this civil wars, White Peace ist a via le Option Overall +30% are enough in Most cases for this. And don't let them Catch your ruler! If they make a siege at your Capital, gives your emperor the least of an Army so they cant get him If they won the siege AMD If He leads an Army, don't lose a Fight with this army, If you unlicky they Catch him and you loose. And Look whats the war about, Sometimes it's Not that Bad If you surrender (lower authorities ist Not so Bad) espezially If there more than one faktion Look, which one you would loose more, but If U can win or at least Take a White Peace, than do IT. In the beginning of a new ruler i Always make a Party, that they Like him a bit more and after a few years or should Go better, the mus for new ruler goes away you become more famos etc. If you have the Money for presents IT May helps to start with diplometik the First Peek left side, Doubles the good opinion for the presents. Put The council diplomatic on inner Things (middle one) this gives you a bit positive opinien. Thats the Tools you can Deal with your vassals, i maybe forgot smoe Tools but If should help the struggle

Hey, can you at some point try starting in madeira or the Sheikdom of Achinech / Maxorata? All three areas are located west from Africa.

I already did this while playing tall as well... yeah 100k is quite a low amount of money with france

28:40 that's not even a defeat, that's just telling another ruler to stop having a temper tantrum and to take the useless item lol

This is pretty much how I play, but as the Duchy of Xia start, clan government AND you’re already the culture head. Just gotta survive the civil war that pretty much happens straight away haha

I really like you content Zieley... once again great video. Just one suggestion: maybe you can make it shorter and more compact? Cause most people look at the 50 min runtime and will be scared away

@Zieley

Жыл бұрын

😬😬 I would love to keep all my videos to around 30 min but I always feel like I'm cutting important tips or explanations of what I'm doing. I do and will continue to make an effort to keep them as short as I can

@jameszeng2666

Жыл бұрын

@@Zieley I understand that...In some cases, do some voice over on your gameplay footage here and there will save you a lot of runtime ... as commenting while playing is really hard

@coltonbrowder4176

Жыл бұрын

@@Zieley not gonna lie I love the longer videos! I feel like they're more authentic and always serve as a great backdrop for whatever I'm doing

I had a game where i played both wide and tall, i owned half of Europe and most of the Roman lands while also owning 17 counties for my self, that game i made 380 gold per month and had 200 k soldiers Point being, if you can handle the depression do both

I would like to see a video where you did hold everything and see how you do with all the penalties

@TEMPLARKILLER2010

Жыл бұрын

He did that in one video if I remember correctly.

@romulusnuma116

Жыл бұрын

@@TEMPLARKILLER2010 What was that video?

@TEMPLARKILLER2010

Жыл бұрын

@@romulusnuma116 I don't remember. Might have been the Ethiopian jew one.

THANK YOU

Wish there were subcultures that vassals could adopt to let them specialize their lands and increase yields so the base taxes can increase

we need pt2

Everyone's sharing their strategies and mine is just E X P A N D. 😅

I was like: Yet another wide vs. tall video showing in my feed. So which game is it about now? Then I was like "ok, I have nothing to say so I'm gonna post a crappy girth vs length joke". And then I was like: Wait, it was always a girth vs length joke, wasn't it?

"Aniconism and lay clergy are honestly so powerful" Now you understand why every street in America has pastor Jim's bible church in a converted house built in the 70s with a spire and cross thrown on it

I feel like you’re playing wrong if you think wide isn’t as good as tall. You reach a limit in tall, where you cannot expand past your domain limit and all your buildings are maxed out. Whereas playing wide you can just conquer more and more, granting stuff to vassals and reaping a percentage of everything, gradually increasing that percentage over time, and developing your vassals. It can be extremely lucrative overtime.

@mattgopack7395

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's a bit strange - because playing wide lets you snowball a lot faster/harder than playing tall does. In terms of power, it's always been (and still is) the strongest way to play. That said, playing tall can have some advantages - while it's a little harder to get started, playing tall is a lot more stable, especially if you can guarantee succession of your tall areas. Since most of the income/troops come from your personal demesne and men at arms, there's much fewer ways for factions to threaten you. I do prefer the gameplay as well, since you never spiral out of control like when playing wide (so it's still challenging).

@jackochainsaw

Жыл бұрын

@@mattgopack7395 Weight of number strategy always works out best in the end. The only reason the Mongols fail is because they are so behind the curve on their cultural game. You won't even be challenged by faction wars once you have enough territory in your realm, because your pot of troops will be so high that nobody will ever be able to challenge you.

@mattgopack7395

Жыл бұрын

@@jackochainsaw Weight of numbers isn't everything - with MAA being so strong for their numbers, with buffs stacking up you can crush much larger armies with ease. But that takes a while to achieve (that or the knight effectiveness stacking), whereas blobbing out to get maximum land ends up providing a much faster boost that you can then shovel into making your personal holdings better. Though bigger empires do require you to be a bit more skilled at the game/play a particular way to keep together optimally, otherwise they end up fairly likely to have a few civil wars on succession.

@ingold1470

Жыл бұрын

Also vassals provide other benefits like producing a talent pool for knights & councillors, or producing children with good genetic traits so you don't have to be too inbred.

@stoopidapples1596

Жыл бұрын

@@jackochainsaw actually, the main thing keeping the mongols back was them never moving their rally point, which is fixed in the latest update.

"your half sister and Lover" 🤣

Tall all the way for me, sure it's a hassle to deal with the extra heirs but much less than dealing with vassals. Not only is it a lot of work to prevent them from rebelling against you on successions but also a lot of work to make them like you, you have to do it all over again every time succession changes for them and you. Taxes and levies bonuses might seem great but it only applies for a short time before you have to do it all over again.

Fun play through and thanks for doing it! One comment I have is the income from your vassals never exceeded the income from your domain holdings. I am not sure you can call this run playing wide. To me playing wide is when you get most of the resources from vassals instead of personal holdings.

Love how you paid 150 gold to increase that guy's taxes from 0.1 to 0.2 per month (until your ruler died three months later).

What version of ck3 you were playing here? Because in mine version they are Clan. And also Culture does not give -15% cost on buildings in oasis...

Can we get a video of just pure world domination?

You can have tall country center and still conquer all countries around to have vassals, it is not stellaris so you haven't got any - with this, just some backstabbing.

i liked the video but i dont think this was a very optimel strat i think playing a warmongerer culture and just conkering then giving all the counties in the duchies to its duke would be a better strat that way you can actually go wide like empire level pretty quik as well dont you think?

My dearest Zieley. If you continue your tall playthroughs, I recommend 3 things: Play as Malta, as it is a one barony county. Play Socotra, as not only is it a two barony county, but it's Nestorian faith is not only heretical to Muslims but to other Christians as well. And finally, as anyone in the Siberia region, since they have large swaths of land with literally 0 development, and would make a interesting challenge. Hope this is considered.

Hi sorry to bother but I have some questions my games stop working due mismatch in multiplayer and desync? What should I do?

If you get the not rightful leige debuff anyway isnt it better to hold the county vassals directly till you have atleast the rightfull kingdom title

From 7.4 to 9.2 a month, so creating Transoxiana is going to pay for itself in ~18.5 years (assuming the status quo)

Yo, what mod do you use for the sound effects?

Tall playthroughs are almost always more enjoyable from a ruling standpoint

@jackochainsaw

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. They are also less stressful for the faction wars. As you have less to face. You have much more peaceful time with fewer vassals. You can actually get quite a lot done even if you have useless characters.

@GhostStyle007

Жыл бұрын

​@@jackochainsaw I couldn't find any joy in doing that, focused on few counties development , played in "x5" got some innovations ahead, and stomped everyone... The AI through my whole "tall debuts" didn't punish me and let me snowball to the moon. But even being sadly more rewarding in CK3... i personally found it way too boring, nothing much to do.

Wouldnt aniconism and theocratic clergy still be quite good if you hold a lot of counties? It's 50% tax if you take care of your bishop no? If you build temples in all those counties you basically get 0.5 castles for free.

Vrey nice greetings from over the seas

Hof would you play without new DLC? how do you find ur strategy

Clan goverment is good cus you can just give every vassal iqta status and get free men at arms ive had 5k horse archers that costed only 5 gold per month feudal is good cus if you go intrgue and down the guile dynasty tree you can cat more than half of your vassals income

Best duchy in that area is Ferghana

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Can you make a video of a different way for mother of us all?

The discord sound effect made me look at my screen

@mattgopack7395

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The sound effects/memes don't really feel necessary, yeah - but I guess people like them lol

Play tall maybe better but playing wide is super fun. My first major game playing wessex with a custom character. I was some how able to marry into inheriting France after a few generations, And I could not tell you how I did it. Just one Day I inherited the french empire title. Then went on a crusade to take back the Santiago de Compostela from the muslims in Spain. My beneficiary took it over and then died without heirs leaving it to me. Then after about another lifetime of wars, I controlled all of British Isles, all of modern day France, and all of modern day Spain. Haven’t had a play through that was that fun sense.

Can you play some civ 6 sir zieley?

I play tall in Hungary and always combine my culture with someone with horse archers to make the Hungarians Magyar again.

tbh, i am very tall and very wide wait, we're talking about ck3? nvm

You must paly Ironman mode with default settings with no mods, start as your own predefined count in your own house below 400 points. "Be the most successful adventurer Norse House over 600 years, unlock as many Legacies". This can done in multiplayer are well, with other streamers :) You must Varangian adventure every life time, you LOSE 100 points if you die before acquiring the Adventurer Trait. You earn points if you are to for each objectives completed below: 1. Consecrate Bloodline for 10 points 2. Elevate the Kingdom of Mann & the Isles for 100 points 3. Dynasty of Many Crowns for 200 points 4. Each legacy unlock will gain you 50 points 5. Each Adventurer Trait will gain you 10 points 6. Sponsor Jewish Sciences to gain 50 points each time 7. Commission Epic to gain 10 points each time if it rewards renown in game 8. End the Iberian Struggle to gain 200 points, extra 100 points if is done by dominance (The settlement of this peninsula will be our focus.) 9. Holding a special building that grants renown percentage gain increase for a life time will grant 20 points, no points if you lose it for a month 10. Each of the following adopted traditions will grant you 50 points: Mystical Ancestors, Castle Keepers, Chivalry, Culinary Artists, Religious Patronage 11. Gain 50 points for each emperor of your house that rules for more than 10 ears You lose points if you: 1. 30 for Disinheriting a child 2. 30 for Assassinating a house member 3. 50 for Assassinating an heir 4. 100 if you die before acquiring the Adventurer Trait one per life time 5. 200 if you adventure into the same de jure kingdom, empire

Bigger name always beats smaller name.... untill bigger name becomes Smaller name....

Playing tall is just much more enjoyable

Yeah bro, thats not wide at all. Best wide combo is vikings (for the making a killing perk), constant raids with a small men at arms unit (I go 3 Varangian 1 Light horse early game) to tempt the enemy into fighting back so you can farm prestige and piety, allowing you to reform your faith and culture, or even go for isle of man, within the first characters life. The more you fight once you get the making a killing perk, the more gold you earn. Also by never using up your special troops from the isle of man decision nobody will declare war on you and you will be too powerful for most vassals to even think about rebelling, so you can focus on going wider and wider.

i like to play Wiall

depends. imagine playing tall in ireland in the early start, youll get invaded a lot and ppl will raid you. or in africa where every province besides the ones of the Nile sucks and everyone raids you. its important to at least expand until you can or fight the raiders/invasors or conquest them all.

Shit man you probably won't see this comment but I'm just a 20 something dad to a toddler. I've never played CK3 and probably never will but I discovered your channel a few nights ago during my before bed sesh and have binged basically every video you've uploaded since 😂 Keep up the awesome content mate!

@Zieley

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You're a true legend my friend, I wish you all the best in the future. I'm always happy to see people enjoying my stuff 👊

You should restore the Roman Empire, I think you can do it

I do both I play tall for about 50-100 years (one rulers lifetime) the I play wide for a short amount of time why still playing semi-tall

i'm afraid to ask but what's the meaning of playing wide and tall? i'm new to ck3

@evanfiend

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Wide is conquering a bunch of land, which almost forces you to have a bunch of under-developed and poor land. It's like: "quantity over quality". Tall is the opposite. Small bits of land that are highly developed and rich. Quality over quantity.

@Yuv_0006

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@@evanfiend thanks for the explanation.

@evanfiend

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@@Yuv_0006 I hope it helped. :)

@evanfiend

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I'm not a pro at ck3, but I think I understand it just fine. I completed the tutorial before the character turned 50. Conquering the whole of Ireland... If you have any more questions, perhaps I could answer them.

Soo how do you keep expanding? Can you have an unlimited number of empires?

@Archangelusbe

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Yes, there is no limit on the number of kingdom and empire titles you can hold

math proves that wide is better than tall no matter what, sure, even if a vassal only gives 10%, that just means that if your wide empire is 110% bigger than your tall empire, you have broke even, any extra land is pure profit, and its EASY to get that much bigger than a tall empire cuz you have limits to how much land you can personally own, say you can only own 6 counties, that just means any other empire needs 13 to make more than you, and this ALSO ignores that wide empires can still have a tall central duchy for the crown as well.... theres literally no benefit from ignoring mass expansion

based and vassal gold pilled

Why no one rush heavy infantry and barracks it’s pretty good

And this right here, is why I despise clan gov't when compared to feudal.