IR is a good compliment to single monitor users

The point about VR isn't that you can just look around, it's that the image is 3D as in real life - each eye sees a different perspective. This is why, once they've experienced "being in the car" (VR), so many people actually refuse to drive with monitors again.

@RowdyTT

3 жыл бұрын

yeh we know mate lol

@mrmisterno1

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, not me. I tried VR at a friends house and I was expecting much more of a wow experience. I mostly thought about all the limitations, especially the movements etc.

@tomsawyer2112

2 жыл бұрын

The only drawback of VR is the software and the cables, sometimes, SteamVR reports problems, sometimes its the Occulus App not working as it should, these two system do not really play well together, sometimes the cable is slightly detached, the bandwidth drops, making the game hang - I usually spend about half an hour before I get the game running, it's really a pain, but in racing, it gives much more immersion, way better judgements of the breaking points and apex, resulting in much better best times.

@charliewaters5289

Жыл бұрын

True, but also some can't use VR for driving and are starving for something similar. I have never played Elite Dangerous again after playing it one time in VR. I will need to set up voice commands and get over motion sickness, and I am really lazy, so...........

@Wokeupindesigner

Жыл бұрын

@@mrmisterno1 just know you’re the odd minority

Thank you SO much! I will try this. Great vid, great explainations

I just got head tracking with triple 27 inch monitors and I love it. Gives me the chance to move the camera around, spot apexes, look when opponents are alongside, use the rear camera in rf2 etc. Some people seem to hate it, but it's only been a positive for me. I got the £60 Delanclip kit and can very much recommend it - and head tracking in general.

Thanks for the review, Yorkie. TrackIR seems ideal for my triple-screen setup. I have an Oculus Rift S, practically brand new, which isn’t used at all any more for my driving sims due to the reasons you indicated in the video. Not being able to see my steering wheel display and buttons is a game killer for me. I don’t get the immersion if my wheel, displays and buttons are in another dimension. Each to his own.

Thank you for the video! And thanks for the idea! I have had a tracker for a long time, but for some reason it never occurred to me to use it in a car simulator ...

Great videos Yorkie! Stoked to see what you do :) just got into acc myself and it's bloody perfect. Just gotta find some communities for NA

Thanks for the info Mate. Have been waiting and wanting to find out in depth what and how it was.

Thanks for sharing mate, was waiting for that video 👍

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome :)

Have one and I love it. I bought a wireless tracker, the UTC II+ Pro and it's top notch

@Rsage21

4 жыл бұрын

does it take time to get used?

I use the trackir on automobilista 2 in helmet view with a simple screen. It really gives a lot of immersion and feeling, I love it;)

@Rsage21

4 жыл бұрын

what monitor u use? does it comfortable when need to move head but keep eye straight on monitor?

@alex_lll

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rsage21 >> does it comfortable when need to move head but keep eye straight on monitor? Exactly my question

Thanks, a very useful video. I am currently seriously considering buying a trackIR 5 since my system probably couldn't handle VR ( with current gen sims ) and neither could my stomach. The main reason being that I like to use the correct field of view in racing sims but that means that I can only see the windscreen and nothing either side of me. I have wheel buttons mapped to look left and right but it isn't really ideal. It would be much nicer if I could just look left or right as required to see where the other drivers are. Based on your review I think trackIR could be the solution I have been looking for. You've had yours for a long time and generally they seem to be very reliable so it is not a massive investment to potentially change my sim racing experience massively. Thank you. This video was exactly the sort of consumer advice ( with sim racing emphasis ) I was looking for.

I went ahead and ordered it York. Thanks again Mate.

@christopheroconnor4665

4 жыл бұрын

What did you order?

@369darkknight

4 жыл бұрын

@@christopheroconnor4665 Track IR

I've used TrackIR 4 since 2010 back in the days of Test Drive Unlimited and Race 07. I had no problems using the hat and wireless sensors which gets around the extra cord issue. I don't think Yorkie mentioned that the TrackIR software is typically configured to amplify your real-life head movements before applying them in-game. So you can turn your head a little IRL but be looking 90 degrees to the side in-game. I also have the Oculus Rift CV1 and found that much more immersive, it is amazing the first time you put it on and see how 'large' the opponents' cars are since you feel like you are seated in one yourself. To get used to driving in VR, start off with tracks that have no elevation changes. I don't race as much these days and also have an ultrawide monitor so have been using that with built-in Look to Apex enabled in various games to cover casual needs.

I was very intrigued by Track IR 10+ years ago, mainly for use in flight sims, than driving, but I never got around to trying it.

Thank you for an excellent over view of this product. I'm in!!

I converted my TrackClip PRO to cordless by wiring up a micro RC heli battery, LiPo if I recall. The battery sits inside the unit and the charging plug is exposed so it can be charged easily. Lasts a very long time and is charged via a fast-charger. Have pics and all of the assembly somewhere... been a long time since I looked at those files.

@onomatopoeidia

4 жыл бұрын

SOLID FARRELL good idea! Done.

Excellent sum-up... Great vid! Been using a DIY trackIR for a while now, which brings me to another plus on this contraption. A bloke where I live 3d machines the frame for the IR leds, and I use a ps3 eyetoy cam to pick up the leds. For mere peanuts(50-70€) you're up and running this. There is no reason not to, there simply is not.

love your vids Yorkie - its funny how some people do prefer track-IR, VR, or triples... or some combination. I'm glad to hear there's a market for all these systems. I myself am strictly VR only. I tried track-IR and my really did a number on my neck - controlling the camera with my neck stiffened it up so so much, it required very specific control, always conscious of what my neck and head were doing, it tensed up the muscles a lot and my neck was unable to deal with it. VR feels way more natural to me - I forget I'm wearing it and I just look wherever I need to.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

That's interesting as I've not heard of any other users having that kind of experience, and I would have thought as well that you'd get the same thing with VR. I guess it's your whole subconscious trying to fight it a bit where-as with VR, you feel very much "in it" and you therefore relax more.

@jamesbehra2690

4 жыл бұрын

@@Yorkie065 I agree.

That dive bomb up the inside at the start though... XD

@OkiDingo

3 жыл бұрын

Except that he bumped both cars.

I bought TrackIR 5 about 5 years ago and tried it for sim racing. I found turning my head where I wanted to look, while keeping my eyes looking straight at the screen very odd, and in addition, if there was a slide that happened while I was not looking straight at the screen, I had a lot of trouble predicting it, so counter acting it was an issue. As a result, I used TrackIR with EuroTruck (looking left and right at an intersection was really handy). I tried VR, and yes, I had to upgrade my GPU to a GTX1080, and yes, Beat Saber caused some destruction around the room initially, and yes I needed to get a chair without wheels for racing otherwise I would get motion sick. However, the immersion was unparalleled in VR to anything else I have experienced. To clarify though, I don't really use either TrackIR or VR these days for racing. I now have a triple screen setup that I find is a good compromise (ultawide would also work). The reasons I don't use VR much are: 1. It's heavy so long races are a no no for my neck 2. it's hot, and I sweat a lot so it fogs up 3. It's too hot to use in summer so I didn't use it as much as I thought I would. So this took a lot of experimenting to figure out what worked for me and what didn't, so ultimately, what is going to work for you is very personal. As VR is very costly (unit purchase + system upgrades), I would recommend borrowing one to try before you buy.

@666louis

4 жыл бұрын

You did not calibrate it for you then. For your game application you should aim to never having to move your head past the monitor's edge. E.g. in ACC when I focus a point roughly 15-20% of the monitor's edge, it'll look out almost 90° to the side which allows me to check for other cars or slightly less for a peek in the side mirror.

I find mine works just as well with both the hat sensor and the sensor that clips to your headphones. I have a hat set up with it on ready to go. Thanks for the video.

Great video Yorkie! I was on the fence between Track IR and Tobii as I didnt want VR and didn't have the room for triple monitors. I ended going with Tobii because of a great deal on Ebay plus Tobii supports eye tracking as well as head. In the end I honestly can't play my racing sims without it for the same reasons you mentioned in your video. For games that only support Track IR, and not Tobii, there is a 3rd party software call TrackNoIR which allows head tracking using the Tobii hardware. I'm hoping more and more games in the future continue to support both Track IR and Tobii as they are fantastic pieces of kits that help to immerse players into driving and flight sims.

Great video Yorkie065! I agree with all your comments. I love it because you can turn your head earlier to see the apex of the corner and not be limited to the FOV setting of your game. I was wondering whether you would consider doing a video on how to fine tune the TrackIR 5 for various games such as ACC, rFactor 2 etc or list your settings in the description below your video. Cheers Walter.

@actarusqc

4 жыл бұрын

Does it works in a complete dark room, I play on a projector and could I put the trackir below the screen (120 inch) because the top of my screen is too high.

Great video. I got my Track IR5 a year ago at a high price at end of Pandemec and starting calibrating it with the LED lights. The clip does not stay on my headphones with out taping it. Unfortunately, I have not used it for awhile and now I am a newbie on DCS. I tried the clip with the Led lights but now they don't light up so I put the clip one on my hat. Much better but after about an hour the camera gets real hot. I am about to get back using it starting on DCS so we'll see if the camera lasts.

Love my TrackIR5 for American Truck Simulator and ETS2. Made a world of difference. It's funny really, I bought it for Racing sims I rarely play, but it gets a work out in Trucking.

@raithrover1976

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it works really well with ATS and ETS2. I use the plastic baseball cap clip which means i simply twist my cap to the side to lock the shoulder view for reversing my truck.

Vr just isnt quite there yet, though it's still fun. In dcs I use track ir for learning and vr for fun. With Track IR I can have a manual out or watching a tutorial video while flying. Sometimes it's just nice to be able to sit down and play without having to where the headset.

Interesting piece of kit. I race in VR, but in the summer it gets so hot in my little office that I tend to put it down for a few months and go back to 2D racing. This might be the 'thing' I'm looking for to bridge that gap. Thanks for the information.

thank you for the video, what setting do you need to do within the game?

You helped me to make a decision, so thanks a lot for your efforts on this video! Greets from Brazil!

Excellent driving dude. I have Oculus and mainly use it for flight sim and driving sim. Have to say though if I do any more than an hour or so on VR I start to get a headache, TrackIR I hasn't got that issue and another point is that you are running at max resolution rather than VR resolution. That's one of the reasons I was checking the review.

For me that I can't wear a vr headset for a long time (I don't like not being able to see the ambient around and my nice rig + poor graphics) this is the best solution. I tried triple 27 (but the vertical fov was too narrow) , tried several vr headsets but they all had obviously the problems that I said before, than a 34 ultrawide but still narrow vertical fov.. now I'm with a 43 inch 4k TV right after the wheel. Not overkill like a 55 inch , you don't feel like a dwarf in che car and more fov than a 34 ultrawide horizontally and vertically

Drawback of short cable to track clip pro can be solved by now offered wireless clips too.

I'm getting trackir 5 next week for MSFS 2020. I''m excited to try it out with the pro clip as I do a lot of streams when doing flights. I'm excited to see how more immersive it will be.

@Yorkie065

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you love it just as much as I do! Just take the time fiddling and adjusting the settings to something that you like.

@taketotheskies6950

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yorkie065 👍

I have been a TrackIR user for many years. Once I got my Oculus Rift almost three years ago, I gave it as a gift to a friend of mine and I have never regretted.

Great informative video. Am currently looking on ebay now for one as the amazon link is a dead end.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, unfortunately with the current global situation as it is, hardware is more difficult to purchase with a lot of stuff being out of stock or higher in price than usual.

It’s a great tool for motion sickness but I’d say Valve index helps with it as well and it’s way better than the rest. Most people experienced only rift. For the viewer I saw a few brilliant VR videos with some smoothing option and it looked soo good 🔥 Like your setup as well 🌈

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I've not tried the Valve Index. Shall definitely have to try and get my hands on that to have a go at some stage.

@YordanHristooov

4 жыл бұрын

Yorkie065 I miss your videos with the crazy commentary from you on the background. They were sooo much fun and good laughs 😂

Great video... This was very thorough and I enjoyed it. I think VR is far superior but it seems like my wife and friends can't handle the motion and get nauseas. For that reason, I think the triple monitor with this would be great. It eliminates the issue of having to keep your eyes forward. I do hate feeling around for the buttons on my wheel and keyboard though, that is a HUGE win for the tracker. LOL

Ha, i always thought you mentioned something called TrackEye and assumed it was a cam you wear on your head looking back that could identify eyes and track the movement of them. This is a pretty cool piece of kit tho.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Tobii eye tracker sounds very much like what you're talking about there. Could be me with my pronunciation with words though lol.

Could you please do a tutorial on how to configure the Track IR software for various driving/racing sims such as AC and ACC please. I am having a tough time getting my settings right. Nothing I do seems to feel natural. Would love to use your settings as a starting point.

I was researching about track IR 5 if it would be good for me or not and your video has just made me decide that I will get one in the next few weeks when i have the cash. My gaming rig is running on an old GTX 960 4GB so its not VR ready and i have a logitech G923 setup that i use for games like ATS and eventually Bus sim 21 when they make it work properly so this would be great addition to it all.

As someone who had a Tir5 so long i had to replace the hat clips reflective tape and now have a rift s , no not even close. Turning to look at apexes in DirtRally 2 is amazing in VR. Bonus its great for DCS world and then you throw in the hours of game play for alyx. Its apples and oranges. Naturalpoint hasn't updated there software in 5 years either. No other games are going to get support. They haven't really tired to get into new titles since the Dk2 came out.

I used trackir when i first started iracing, it was really nice for racing closely like in skip barber, pro mazda etc, it was easier to maneuver around cars

@CrazyHenkie777

4 жыл бұрын

you should try vr then...

@onomatopoeidia

4 жыл бұрын

Bart J I’ve tried a Rift with iRacing several times and the picture quality was horrible, didn’t work with my glasses well and I felt sick the rest of the day so Trackir works much better for me and all my custom button boxes work as normal.

It has been in a box since I last flown DCS like 3-4 years ago. Might be a good time to take it out for a walk. But will try he hat clip. Never used it but the IR Clip was kind of annoying

@Heinousness

3 жыл бұрын

Damn son, you need to fly again

Really like this Yorkie going to get this 👍👍👍

Hi Yorkie, good video and very informative! My added question would be how natural the turning motions of your head feel with TrackIR? By definition your head movements need to be smaller than the perceived change of FoV (meaning: head turns, say 5 degrees, and FoV has to turn 10 degrees at the same time, otherwise you might look outside of your monitor). So, how much of getting used to for someone who has either not used it at all or has used the 1:1 head-tracking in VR?

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

For someone who is coming from VR, it will probably feel a bit odd that it's not 1:1. With a little bit of time, getting the right settings dialled in for what you want and getting used to it, you can become very comfortable with it. Case of building the muscle memory essentially.

Thanks for the informative review, I think i'll be splashing out on one of those. Will it work with space games like Elite Dangerous? it could be handy in dogfights etc. I find VR makes me too hot after a while and the detail isn't high enough on my oculuc rift, i can't read marker boards etc (although i love the sense of scale), I'd want twice as much detail which i doubt any pc could handle yet making the cost of any future pc prohibitive.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

It does work with ED, yeah. Have used it in elite, DCS, war thunder, and a number of other games outside of sim racing too.

Great Video. Thanks

Keeping your eyes on the screen but turning ur head is just weird as the monitor stays static, that's alright if you're sitting really close to like a 50" screen, but a regular 24" monitor at a decent distance would just be wrong

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I started off on a 21 inch monitor when I first picked this up, then moved to 24 inch, and now I'm on a 35 inch ultra wide. The last one does feel more natural than the first 2, but when it comes to looking into and through corners, your head naturally turns in anyway and you can adjust the sensitivity so it's picked up and put into the game with a slight look to apex feel. Surprisingly, I really didn't take me long to get accustomed to it and making use of its functionality by looking round more. It feels more like an extension in control rather than an unnatural hindrance.

@Snipes432

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, I've been using TrackIr for over 10 years, and this has never been a problem in racing sims. The thing is, that in racing sims, especially in modern cars that have proper head rests modeled, you only need like 40 degrees rotation in each direction max. You can get this with very little head movement, and the brain builds up muscle memory pretty fast. Is it as immersive or good as VR, where you can look around naturally? No, but VR comes with its own set of issues.

@ChrisH-mo2sn

4 жыл бұрын

I used to use track ir and you get used to moving head but not eyes very quickly. I've got vr now though and there's not a chance of going back. Not that ir wasn't good (It's very good) I just get so much more out of vr.

Personally I prefer VR because it really throws you in there. I use a CV1 at home but at work we have a Pimax and that is just glorious! I honestly think VR is better except for image clarity and if you have a big wide screen (I only have a 29 inch screen) I can see how the visual crispness of track IR can be something interesting. However, the immersion factor is just not there for me (I have both systems since I used to use track IR for my flight sims).

Haha, so true - the remark for your surroundings. :)

I always wondered what Track IR was. I will take a look at it. But does it feel similar to PC2's look to apex? Thanks for the review.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't. You're in control of it so it feels a lot more natural and therefore the timing of it feels better.

I have track ir for about 8 years i think. I am very satisfied with space/flight/car simulations and i cant play them without it anymore. Other games (dayZ, Arma, etc,....) i use it from time to time....

My TrackIR has been sitting in a drawer since I tried VR for the first time 3 years ago. I guess I did pull it out for some Arma about a year ago. I’m 100% if it doesn’t fully support VR I won’t support it.

@KastaRules

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I sold my TrackIR after it gathered 4 years worth of dust. No VR, No party.

@edteach3r

4 жыл бұрын

The opposite is true for me. I don’t like the fact that I cannot get to see my wheel display or use my button box and steering buttons. Above that, it is rather uncomfortable and perspiration-inducing. On non-driving games, I enjoy VR for brief periods; but since I enjoy sim racing the most, my Oculus Rift S is being used very infrequently. I am now looking towards buying TrackIR for my racing games.

@rafety85

4 жыл бұрын

@@edteach3r I have no issues using a button box in vr you just have to make sure its all placed in a good location with different size buttons so you can tell what it is from feel.

@Matt-di6nb

4 жыл бұрын

I use TrackIR well a cheaper version but I prefer it over VR as I dont have enough room it doesnt run that well on my PC and the picture quality is quite poor really. And I get motion sickness really quick

@KastaRules

4 жыл бұрын

@@edteach3r I use the wheel buttons and my button boxes just fine. You have to use MUSCLE MEMORY anyway, in a real race you wouldn't hunt for a specific button, you just knew what to push without looking. Plus, you can peek through the nose gap in VR Headset if you really need to see outside.

Hey Yorkie, Thanks so much for your video. I didn't actually know this works with AC and ACC! I immediately went about trying to find where I had put my Track IR which I haven't used in years. I wanted to know if you would be willing to upload your AC and DCS profiles so that I'm able ti use them as a starting point for my own settings. If not then thats also OK! Thanks again!

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I've chucked the one that I use for my racing sims on my discord. Pm me on discord and I shall send you over the DCS profile I have.

@wayneparker1235

4 жыл бұрын

@@Yorkie065 awesome, thanks so much!

i use trackir with triples. works really great. can clearly see side mirrors, and look out side windows.

@Djk0t

3 жыл бұрын

@dan S which sims are you using

@Djk0t

3 жыл бұрын

@Dan S , which sims are you using

@Djk0t

3 жыл бұрын

@DanS which sims are you using

@dans5595

3 жыл бұрын

@@Djk0t rFactor 2, iRacing. i reckon others will work, but haven't tried.

@Djk0t

3 жыл бұрын

@@dans5595 thanks I also use iracing and rf2. Do you need to do any adjustments to the ingame settings?

Very informative! What specs pc and monitor are you using?

@Yorkie065

10 ай бұрын

All that info you can find on my channels About page.

can you use like 3 sensors on a 49 in ultrawide so you're eyeballs don't have to de-socket?

TrackIR was a massive game changer in 1998...but that was ever such a long time ago.

I need to get this for F1 2021. Playing with a fixed camera in the cockpit view, I have to turn off the halo column

@Yorkie065

2 жыл бұрын

It will probably help you a bit to see around the halo, as you can also lean, but the lean axis is not the best thing to have active whilst driving unless you have the amount of lean tuned right down. Either way, it is fantastic and I loved using it back when I used to play the F1 games.

From what your saying I have to ask have you tried playing other games in VR that are not racing based to acclimatise to VR? As I've seen so many only play sim/game they are interested in that happen to be one of the most motion sicknesses inducing activities also many fail to notice things like a lock to the horizon/lock to seat option that will change the smoothness of the ride based on or between the options.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I have yeah, and more often than not they're more nausea inducing for me than racing sims. Some games are fine, but I've tried a few indie titles that made me feel sick quicker, even just walking around exploring a world, and the same with flight sims as well. I'm aware of adjusting world movement settings and locking things to the horizon which certainly helped a great deal, but I still can't go on for too long.

@SalsaKetchup

4 жыл бұрын

​@@Yorkie065 You say about games that have walking, so I would say anything that has any type of motion other than the movement that you make yourself is a no-no for getting VR legs, I'm talking games like SUPERHOT, Moss, Beatsaber where the only motion is if you yourself move your body (no moving via stick inputs/controllers) once you can be in one of them for an hour or two, then move on otherwise you hit so many odd things that can set you off that you don't get to understand what part of VR motion is actually triggering sickness for you, that you can gradually overcome.

The simple clip works fine and can even be clipped onto headphones instead of a cap peak.

Hey, Matt!! Just got a Track IR based on your recommendation. Can you share the profile you use for ACC?

@Yorkie065

10 ай бұрын

Awesome stuff. Yup, you can find it by joining my discord (link should be in the description), then head over to the sim rigs and gear channel. It's in a pinned message in there. Hope you enjoy it

Which monitor could be better for trackir, 32:9 or 21:9?

Does it works also with a three sceens?

I have Valve Index and TrackIR 5. Last Saturday I've done 2 hour non stop session playing ACC in VR and had no sickness, no problems whatsoever. Even the heat VR produces, I've got used to it. I am also much better driver when I am using VR so ACC is set up for it now. BUT I miss image clarity which I get with my 55 inch 4k TV... With TrackIR 5 I can still enjoy beautiful graphics and in VR graphics is meh.

great vid:)

Ive had trackir for 11 years. I use it for flight sims and Arma 3... its hard to play games without it now

I think I would look into it when I move to pc rather than vr. Only used VR twice. And for me the problem was that I wear glasses. VR didn’t feel comfy when wearing glasses and due to my eyesight I could see clearly at all when taking them off. Plus like you said in the video I’ve personally invested in other products that I use whilst racing. Plus I’m assuming this gives the range of view as you would have by using triple monitors. I don’t have the space to TrackIR 5 seems like something would suit me

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

This will allow you to look further left and right than triples with a fixed straight ahead view would give. The ultimate combo though would be to have both TrackIR and triples, that way you get a wider FOV with the extra peripheral vision, but then also have the ability to move the camera left and right a bit if you wanted / needed it.

@jousis_

4 жыл бұрын

You can buy prescription inserts for almost any quality hmd. IMO tir should be compared with triples or buttons. VR is on a league on its own for sim racing. Nothing else comes close. I had sickness issues with 80hz of rifts in sim racing. Higher fps are very very helpfull. IF you get sick, save money and go for 120hz index.

Hi Yorkie, I've just bought a TrackIR 5 + ClipPro this week because of this video and tried for the 1st time yesterday. It was... a disaster. I just couldn't drive with it, too incredibly unstable, I just couldn't turn the wheel and my head without losing my orientation completely. I wonder if that's a configuration problem or if it takes a long time to get used to the camera moving. Did you had a great experience right from the start or you had to invest getting used to it and tweaking the configs? Would you mind sharing your configuration (deadzones, axis, etc) ? Thanks!

@DemetriusNunes1976

4 жыл бұрын

I used with iRacing BTW.

@stefanbachmeier

4 жыл бұрын

First of all, start with standard setup and set Speed to 0.1 and Smooth to about 10. If the head movement is too low, raise Speed in small steps. I mostly race with Speed set to 0.2 and Smooth to 10 (Triple Screens). The standard speed setting was way too high for me and is aimed for Flight Sims in my opinion.

I have bought a wireless Headset just for Simracing, I love it an I'm even thinking about changing/upgrading it. That LED thing you strapped to your Headset. Does it need any signal or is that just power for the LEDs? Because if it's just power than using an AA-Batterie would feed those for a long time.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

So I believe it is both power and signal, but unfortunately there isn't a wireless version so you would still have a wire hanging down. It's very easy to clip on and off though if you wanted to walk from the rig with the headset still on, just gotta remember that it is attached lol. It's the one thing that I hope they do improve for if they ever do a TrackIR 6, is make the track clip pro wireless.

@dasmyxerion5899

4 жыл бұрын

@@Yorkie065 I saw something long time ago were someone used a battery pack for the sensor on the headset. I think it was a usb charger for mobile phones.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, someone has mentioned in another comment that it only needs to be plugged into a USB for power, not signal transfer. There are also wireless adaptations but I can't comment on how good or bad they are as I've never used them.

@miagi1337

4 жыл бұрын

So it's like I thought. Because if the passive reflector "Cap thing" works than the LED just need power. So without or without soldering something together, a small power bank kind of thing should do the wireless job.

So do you just map that input device to the "look left" and "look right" channels in the sim racing programs?

@Yorkie065

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. It works in the same way as VR, so some games will require you to use the 'helmet cam', others will just work straight off with the standard cockpit camera.

I picked up Track IR last week because it looked awesome in your vids. But I am finding it difficult to get used to. The looking at a stationary monitor while moving my head is messing with me. Bit also I am noticing that I find it more difficult to know when the car is getting out of shape. I really have to rely more on wheel noise and the wheel to know when I'm pushing the car too far. Whereas before I could get a sense of it visually when the view is stationary. Did you have any of those issue?

@hardcorebam14

4 жыл бұрын

First you dont need to look around on every corner, just the tight ones! Also you have to set profile curve so for example when you turn your head by 45 degrees, it turns by 90° ingame or something like that, with a good "dead zone" in the middle. I mean you need to find the right settings so the camera wont shake and move on every little movement, but also something that won't made you turn your head by 90° when you want to look on your side.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Join my discord which a link to is in the description below, and shall put on there the profile that I use.

@grantklinsing6043

4 жыл бұрын

@@Yorkie065 thanks.

I have trackir and will be going with the quest 2 still kinda 2d with trackir

what degree of Fov were you using in ACC with trackir?

Having both, I prefer VR for flight and driving Sims. I only use TrackIR for games that do not support VR, such as Arma 3. The emersion of VR trumps everything. Regarding the pro track clip verses the baseball clip, I prefer the baseball clip for convenience; the performance just doesn't seem to be compromised compared to the pro clip which is far too delicate and prone to damage.

I can use my reverb without my glasses and is all looks great.I cannot use a monitor without my glasses.Have you ever turned your head to the side then look at your monitor with glasses on? I get it that people who spent big$ on monitors and button boxes are looking for ways to keep using them.I personally sold all that stuff.For me its VR all the way.No looking back no second thoughts.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I don't wear glasses so I hadn't even considered that, but I can see how that would be a problem. To combat that though, you can adjust the sensitivity of the head movement, so you could use less of your own head movement for more in-game camera movement so your vision of the screen wouldn't be blocked so much by the frame of your glasses as you'd turn your head less.

@keithancajas4623

4 жыл бұрын

i love vr.. but motion sickness just kills it for me! everytime i play sim racing i can't even last 30 mins before i turn blue

@nomasksfckcorona1122

4 жыл бұрын

VR works not with glasses, and without everything is blurry, for glasses User VR Headsets still really sucks.

what about the price witch one is more afordable..?

I know everyone who watched this that doesn't have TrackIR, spent their time turning their head while keeping their eyes on the screen. Personally i don't have an issue when driving for long periods in VR so the only real upside in TrackIR for me is the level of detail you can keep.

@OhItsThat

4 жыл бұрын

86Themadhatter Yup. TrackIR was great before I got my first VR HMD. I feel like it probably helped condition me VR as far as motion sickness goes I have no problem, almost zero negative effects from VR. The longest stint I ever did in VR was just over an hour. As long as I have a fan on me I could probably keep going. I absolutely love VR for sim racing and can’t play any other way.

Track Clip Pro is not a sensor, it is just a three point infrared light source. It is powered by 5v USB, but you do not have to connect the USB to your PC as no data is transmitted through the cable. You can connect it to a mains-powered 5v phone charger with a USB socket in it and it will work just as well, so you do not need it to be tethered to your PC. You can simply plug the USB phone charger into the nearest mains electricity socket, or run an extension cable over if there is no socket nearby. I bought a short USB extension lead with an on/off switch in the middle of it from ebay and this allows you to switch the Track Clip Pro on when in use and off when you have finished using it. They cost about £2 only and prolong the life of the LEDs in the Track clip Pro because if you leave it connected to the USB on your PC the LEDs will remain on, even after you have finished using it. However, I mostly use VR these days because I have never suffered from any kind of motion sickness and I have also built myself some custom button box type controllers which I can use unsighted, so not being able to see the keyboard etc. is not really a problem for me.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a few other people in the comments have corrected me on that too, although yours has the most detail. Thanks for the info as I'm sure it will be useful for those looking for alternative solutions to plugging the clip in if they need them!

I feel like this would be okay for racing, since you usually don’t move your head a lot. However, I doubt it would be a good experience when drifting

I race in a full sim set up in living room with a 42inch tv in front of me which is good anough. Similar to what you said at the begining i live alone with a Jack Russell,shes the equivalent of a 5yr old child that shoots around like a tornado when shes not chillin so a VR is a big no no plus my cctv monitor is next to the tv.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Then can definitely recommend TrackIR for you if it were something you were interested in.

I use triple screen for sim racing.i have enough screen space for looking at the Apad.will the ir mess up my viewing angle?

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Depends how you set it up and what you're after. You could make it so the TrackIR has a very low sensitivity so you can get a little bit of movement to make it feel a little more dynamic, without it being overly jarring.

Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou, Yorkie065 - as I was busting to finally see this Review to find out what your thoughts were on TrackIR 5, and it was very interesting info for me personally. But just 2 questions from my end please. (1). Are there any MODERN? SIMS that don't support it, such as maybe a game like Wreckfest or Dirt Rally 2. And the second is more an observation really --- but please don't take it as me saying YOU HAVE A BIT NOSE!!! hahaha. But if you re watch your own video, my immediate thought was that the sensor you have stuck to your headphones, might? be blocked when you turn hard left your end, from either your nose or part of the side of your face - as apposed to the HAT SENSOR which seems like from my viewing end - would have just very slightly more range (or equal range?) when you looked both hard left & right using your head...………………………….. your thoughts please?

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I don't own it but I just looked up if Wreckfest supports it and it seems like it doesn't unfortunately. Pretty much all the other sims though, brand new and old, all of them support it. Or at least the main ones such as Project CARS, AC & ACC, iRacing, RaceRoom, AMS2, RFactor, Dirt Rally, WRC 8, F1 2019 etc. As for the potential of blocking the sensors due to large protrusions, there's a pro tip with the TrackIR in that you place the sensor that sits on the monitor off to one side (the same side as the Track Clip Pro) of the monitor rather than in the middle. That way, no matter whether you're turning left or right, you should get equal range on either side with less chance of the sensors being blocked. As for the nose comment, got it a lot in school, very much aware that it's not small so no offence taken XD hahaha

@SingleRacerSVR

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info - clever trick about moving the monitor sensor to the left - shame about Wreckfest not supporting TrackIR, but yet it doesn't support VR either - so maybe it's all about not feeling sick full-stop --- given it's crazy crashing nature ; )))

What is the cost of the IR 5 Verse the VR thanks

An inertial/magnetic sensor could do the job too

I prefer the clarity and comfort of head tracking over full VR.

Hi, dude 90% of all game has a STOP camera movement in it so that the camera does not move made VR racing parfait. I don`t know why people dos do not know about this But that is how you FIX sick motion. One thing is for sure it makes VR racing a new ball game, try it dude you will love it. VR is the best way to race just stop the camera ---((motion))--- You will find it in the options menu.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

So you mean to completely disable the ability for looking around? That goes against the intention of VR and sim racing for me. The main issue with motion sickness is the disconnect of seeing movement yet not feeling it, which is often enhanced by camera movement and HUD elements moving separately. You can do things to control that, but despite making those measures, I've still not ever gotten comfortable with VR and still feel odd and slightly nauseous when coming off it.

@badme9684

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Dude, you got it all wrong that is not what I said look it up on youtube you will get it and NO you don`t lose the ability for looking around it make VR parfait much better and no sickness. I`m only trying to help people with VR problems, you should do more research about VR before you do video. Anyway have a nice day. Oh, I forgot to mention that over 5,000 Sim racer try it and love it!

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of it before, and am struggling to find example of what you mean or a tutorial. Have you got a link? Cheers

So if I want to look left I turn my head left but have to look right with my eyes to see the screen. That seems a little weird.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Depends what you want to look at and how sensitive you have it. For me, I have it so that when I look left to look at the left wing mirror for example, I turn my head left to bring the wing mirror onto the left side of the screen, but my eyes are still looking to the left side of the screen. You could say that my eyes are looking in the opposite direction, but only 5-10 degrees or so. It's only really if I want to be able to see out to one direction to keep an eye on something yet want to use my eyes to glance around at other things in that off-centred view are you really needing to look heavily in the opposite direction, which is quite rare.

I take my VR setup to the lodge and we race. Even with vr, no one ever turns their head more than a few degrees while racing.

im thinking that this might create some weird reflexes irl lol

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

How so?

@flo13boe

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe because still looking straight at the monitor while head turns 🤔

@DanielNavas1

4 жыл бұрын

@@flo13boe yeah unless you have a massive wrap around monitor I don't see myself liking this. I went from a single 24in monitor to VR and I couldn't be happier. However, everyone's situation is different. Graphics will be better on a high end monitor but VR is just amazing. Although someone should be watching your kids lol. Don't jump into VR if there's no one to watch your kids

@ignacioaguirrenoguez6218

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielNavas1 Use some clonozepam

@SI0AX

4 жыл бұрын

@@flo13boe I actually never even thought about this throughout the video. Now it does seem very strange and makes me want to experience it to see how weird it is, lol. I have the Valve Index VR Kit though so it's not worth it. I used to get nauseous while playing Asseto Corsa but after upgrading the CPU, I don't have that problem anymore. It was an FPS problem and that will quickly make you nauseous. Other VR games like Gorn with on foot movement without teleportation make me very nauseous but I heard you have to get used to it by playing a bit more.

i have the track ir and it gets affected by sunlight, so compared to the vr it is very poor. The vr set can get hot and if you wear glasses that can be a problem

Looks nice. Seems more personal than anything. I'd never use one lol. Not as much of a fan of 2D driving lol. Never been interested in racing. Played a crappy vr game on psvr and boom lol. Hooked. The sense of feeling like I'm actually in a car just wow me. Looked crappy but it changed,how I looked at racing games. Only non vr game I play is F1.

what about Tobii Eye tracker? Anyone experienced with that?

How does it compare to a triple monitor setup that shows a wide view?

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

So obviously with Triples, you have that wider FOV so it mostly negates the need for looking left and right which the TrackIR would facilitate, and you get the added benefit of peripheral vision and a wider FOV. Ultimately, if you have both triple screen and TrackIR, you're onto a winner as you get the best of both and can use both at the same time.

Hi , just got a TrackIR to try since getting eye strain with my older Oculus Rift V1 VR headset for iRacing mainly. I used your profile but man, was not expecting the motion sickness from it... Maybe because it is my first time trying it but never got motion sickness in VR. The screen shifting like that got my reference point out of wack completely. Maybe it is moving too fast, too much with a OneToOne template setting in the software but was not expecting that. Is it getting better with time? Not felt well for 15min at least... Anybody got that at first? Thanks in advance for your feedback.

@Yorkie065

4 жыл бұрын

Hello, when you say used my profile, do you mean copied what you saw in the video or the profile that I have available for download on my discord server? The only time where I felt a bit icky from using TrackIR was when I very first got it and started using it, but that's because I had all the degrees of motion enabled and hadn't got the settings dialed in to where I wanted them, so there was way more movement than there should have been. Once I disabled pretty much all the axis bar Yaw and Pitch, I felt much better and was just a case of finding the right rotation settings.

@francoisbru3613

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for your reply. Yes, it is the one you have in your discord server. Now you may be right about the right rotation settings but did not touch them from your profile. It is set to OneToOne as template setting for the ones you selected active in your profile. Now, maybe we could exchange the exact settings for rotation curves because it is way too much movement for me right now. Hope it clarifies the situation. We could take this exchange to your discord server if you preferred. Thanks again for your help. Really want to make it work. :-)

Which SIM is the one at 9.30?

Would you be willing to share your iRacong settings?

Hi, is there a way to make this work with Xbox One?

Trackir is awesome for flight and vr for racing