It's so refreshing to hear someone who sounds calm and natural on KZread, and is not yelling all the time. Good content too! Subscribed.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Bocken - thanks. Heh, yeah, KZread encourages shouting. I think some people confuse volume with enthusiasm - especially in the Gaming community!

@Unfunny_Username_389

5 жыл бұрын

I think too many people have not thought sufficiently about what they're going to say, nor how they're going to say it. More people should consider scripting their content, and indeed, reading from that script wherever possible. I personally would much prefer informative content delivered in a vanilla way than rubbish disguised by enthusiasm. But this upload is informative AND well-delivered.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bobby - I very much agree with you. I understand the appeal of 'doing it on the fly', but few are really capable of doing it well. There's a reason that 99% of televised content is scripted!

@cheezcruncher

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like 3kliksphillip lol

@jagheterhopp

5 жыл бұрын

Can't be more true! Subscribed.

I wish any of the sims actually simulated power steering. I'm fine with the steering in the Lotus 49 being heavy, but the 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer shouldn't have the same wheel weight. Yet for some reason people are obsessed with maxing out their torque. As far as I've seen, BeamNG is the only game that simulates power steering.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Good point JZStudios - Something I hadn't really thought about. In some sims you can change the FFB level on a car by car basis, which to some extent approximates the steering 'weight' but that scales all of the other forces as well.

@ObitoUchihaisgay

5 жыл бұрын

I just use a FFB app in AC to change the feedback while driving until it fits the car im in

@JZStudiosonline

5 жыл бұрын

@@ObitoUchihaisgay The issue is that only really works for AC... and maybe Project Cars, but other than the obvious road cars I'm not car-geek enough to know what cars do and don't have power steering. Generally I like it pretty soft, like every normal car I drive, I even use the Drift setting on my Fanatec otherwise it's just unnecessarily heavy.

@NorfolkBlue

5 жыл бұрын

i think iracing and a few others have this as well, no? I noticed before that different cars in iRacing feel like they have a much heavier wheel weight when using the same settings

@JZStudiosonline

5 жыл бұрын

@@NorfolkBlue Haven't ever tried iRacing. I'm not sure I'd put it up to simulating power steering as much as the different cars just have different feedback levels for whatever reason. I only say BeamNG because they have a power steering module you can remove from the vehicles, and heavier vehicles have more resistance than lighter ones.

"What they don't tell you" Implies something negative yet this video is positive.

@gonzalofernandez6603

5 жыл бұрын

Aaaaand there is anything new on what he says.

Honestly who runs at 100% ffb? Why would you want to? After 8 hours of sim racing you'd be pretty sore and your performance would drop off significantly. I almost feel that the people going after high torque are the same crowd that think harder to drive cars are more realistic.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Steve. It's nice having the headroom, especially in Assetto Corsa, where some of the cars have quite subtle feedback. But, turning everything up to 11 doesn't really offer much!

@Yozzeus

5 жыл бұрын

I run at 85% in ac and 100 in acc .

@ATLRIOT

5 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more, when I stream of 6 hours my arms would fall off at 100%.

@darkghost5770

5 жыл бұрын

I lowered my ffb to 45 on my tsxw driver.

@Erowens98

5 жыл бұрын

One thing is immersion, the other is speed. A high torque wheel will accelerate faster, giving much more accuracy. Especially important when you hit a curb, or you lose traction or something. If for example your wheels want to align to 15°, a high torque wheel will get there twice as fast as a consumer wheel.

I appreciate you taking up my precious free time. Keep the videos coming!

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Heh, thanks David - much appreciated. Also, I'm amazed anyone listens though the last 15 seconds of the videos!

I like the calmness and the way the video is due. thank you !

Every time I watch one of your videos I feel like doing a slow 👏🏾. Your videos are refreshing, superb, and crisp. I’m just a newbie doing research on the best way to get started. I’ve just built my sim rig and I’ve been looking for tips. The algorithm keeps suggesting your videos and I’m so glad that it does. Thanks Chris, you’re the man!

Your voice is therapeutic

@lucasrem

5 жыл бұрын

Albert Albert therapeutic ? need that? Toy simulator got you running mad.... Need a real simulator or this toy wheel?

@TheLunnyBear

5 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem WHAT?!

@_chp_

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem What are you even fucking talking about I got zero words from that

@whotesamurai

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem you missed a whole sentence as well as a whole comment section

@Rahul75559

3 жыл бұрын

I got throat pain. Feels like he’ll lose his voice any moment. 😂

Really good, highly informative, to the point and well constructed video. See so many KZreadrs rambling on, but this was very well put together.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude, much appreciated.

The higher dynamic range is exactly what I'm expecting from a direct drive wheel. Good to hear that they have even more advantages, so I'll eventually upgrade my current belt driven wheelbase to a direct drive one. I knew that the maximum amount of force feedback was not the point and I hoped for other benefits - thank you very much for explaining them! Great video!

Instant subscription! You seem calm and very much like a real person. That combined with the way you express your opinion so clearly is just the cherry on top. The video taught me stuff, cheers!

@Chris.....you are slowly becoming my favorite sim racing guy on youtube. I so much dig your explanations and so forth on the sims and hardware. I've been racing 2 wheel motosports my entire life , and got into the 4 wheel sims about 5 years ago. I enjoy it a lot , but I still have so much more to learn. You have really helped fill in some of those missing pieces , like what this video just did. I'm running a CSW v2.0 , and want to make the jump to a DD wheel this summer some time. This video gave me some more info I was looking for. Thank you.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Jeffro - glad you're finding the videos helpful. As for 2 wheel motorsport, I can't help but feel that it must give you a real appreciation for how a tyre interacts with the tarmac!

Thanks Chris. Another very informative and enjoyable video.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael - much appreciated.

I've been researching DD wheels last few months and you gave me new info / opinions ! Nice one. :)

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks exstrajohn - much appreciated. Glad the video was helpful.

You offer a unique perspective to the world of DD wheels, at least from my viewpoint. A fantastic video my Man

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim - you're too kind.

Love your videos Chris. Thank you for doing such a professional job! Informative, trustworthy, entertaining. Truly outstanding!

I could fall asleep to your voice, it is incredibly soothing to listen too, great video! im going to get saving for a dd wheel

I've noticed having/using a good wheel setup improves throttle control and instinctive eye to hand movements.

Thank you great video I havent raced iRacing for over 6 years and I was a beta tester when the started it up getting back in and your video answerd all my questions thank you ....!

Easy to listen to a refreshing change. I just bought my first wheel this week and am not ready for a direct drive wheel but enjoyed the video none the less.

love the insite and honesty. id love to see you do a 6 month or 1 year "long term" review/thoughts

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude - that's a good idea, I'll add it to the 'future videos' list :)

Thanks for relevant info Chris -- & I dig the sensibilities (imo) your posts reflect. Be well.

Great analysis and video overall. The effort shows. Well done and thanks!

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dotaleet - much appreciated.

Very insightful video. The proverbial hat is off to you, Chris. Got to say that enjoyed it so much...I subscribed and have been binge watching your content ever since. You're a breath of fresh air to the Sim Racing community.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words. Glad you're enjoying the content.

This is over a year old but was great. I don't subscribe to many but yours is a no brainer. Good job.

Very informative! Thanks! My new go-to channel!

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert, much appreciated.

So glad I discovered this video. Thanks for the well thought out review of direct drive. Subscribed!

Good stuff my man, i'm delighted by your work

Love the quality of your video on every Front! refreshing !!

Thanks Chris, that was really informative, explains quite a few things I was unaware of.

I've never watched you before or even have a wheel, but this was exceptionally well explained. subscribed

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew - much appreciated, glad you enjoyed the video.

@Frankestein01nl

5 жыл бұрын

We definately need more down-to-earthers, subbed!

@lucasrem

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew consumer wheels are good to start on, you don't need it for force feed back! Guy is not understanding..... It's not in the wheel, you need hydraulic axes first, you need the motion first, that is the big leap on a consumer wheel too, Motion axes first, then do direct drives wheels and other prefers extra's

excellent content. Your voice is nice and clear and provided very useful information. I'm currently using the Fanatec CSL Elite setup, and is looking to upgrade to a Direct Drive this summer. I look forward to your video on your rig setup and how you plan to reinforce it for the new DD wheel base, subbed.

Good information. Thank you for that as well as a voice I could absolutely listen to for hours without caring xD

I was really looking for someone to tell me why to buy a direct drive wheel. I’m glad that you actually gave a good review of rather overview of direct drive. Now I can keep my current wheel without feeling im needing more because the features I need aren’t on the direct drive wheel. I’m getting the information I need from my current wheel and I won’t get any more from a direct drive wheel. So thanks for saving me about a thousand bucks.

It's an honor and a pleasure watching and listening to what you have to say, mr Haye. I too have caved for the direct drive wheel and was indeed concerned if my diy-rig (from wood) would hold... and so far.. i'm anxiously positive saying that mine can hold about 12 nm, but i tend to cling to about 8-10 in most sims, simply because i donot want my customrig to blow up. ;) I have however tried one aluminium profile rig and i was very surprised that it wouldn't budge a single millimeter under load. I'll be going that way, when this one starts cracking and creaking more under load. One thing you forgot to mention, when one buys the OSW, it doesn't standard come with a buttonbox, or a wheelrim... or a pedalbox... (usually, i haven't looked up the package you've bought before commenting) It's a really nice wheel to have, i can even do Trucksimulator with the OSW wheel set to 2160 degrees (but, you have to take off the coiled-cord for the buttonbox, as it WILL snap in a matter of a month, so i'm actually waiting for some smart guy to make a buttonbox with a battery in it, and a dongle... a little birdy told me someone is actually working on somethign like that)

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man. Thanks for the comment. I think much of the problem with the current rig are due to the design not really factoring in the torque levels of a DD wheel. The material choice isn't really a problem, but the design does nothing to mitigate lateral twisting. I hadn't thought about the USB cable issue with truck-sim - that's a very good point - and as you say, an opportunity for a wireless product.

Thorough explanation, in-depth evaluation and a soothing voice to top it all off. Despite having watched only one of your videos, I'm definitely going to check out more of your content. Subscribed!

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks JollyG - much appreciated :)

Ahhh- such a sweet outro.. subbed!

Hi there, I'm an amateur welder/fabricator/blacksmith, and I recently constructed my own sim rig, not from box section, but from tubular steel. I used 30mm pipe with 3mm wall thickness,(which everybody told me was 'over engineering' it). I packed all my pipes with sand, initially to help with the bending process, but I left the sand in to add weight. All joints are welded not bolted, wich adds rigidity, I use a car seat with it's sliding and reclining mechanism to adjust driving position. I think my frame is very rigid indeed, although you would have to test and compare to know for sure. Most importantly, it would be a very cheap alternative for alot of people. If you would be interested in trying one out, I'd be happy to build one to your requirements. If you are interested please get in touch with me so we can discuss more, I'm not after money, but I might like an endorsement/honest opinion. It's up to you, I wont spam you.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Kris - interesting stuff. If you don't mind, I'm going to pin your post to the top f the comments, because I think it'll help out others that build their own rigs from scratch.

@CriticoolHit

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHaye Or people looking to build a Tornado proof destruction shelter! 30mm/3mm jacket pipe stuffed with sand then welded and bent? Just climb inside pull a thick tarp over the top and hang on tight. I want to know how much it weighs hah! Put wheels and a fire extinguisher in it and it would probably pass tech.

@eriktruchinskas3747

5 жыл бұрын

@@CriticoolHit would probably be safer than race cars up until 70s/80s

@Kris_T_

5 жыл бұрын

If you don't care for rigigity, make your own from wood & stuff. I can make you a frame, but consider deivery costs too. I don't really want to conduct business here in the comments section. If you want a frame please message me on my channel. Thanx

@Kris_T_

5 жыл бұрын

about 50 kgs

Thank you, this exactly a point i have made when other tubers have proclaimed how great it is to have a wheel that can produce lots of peak forces. I want to know how much continuous forces can be applied, sustained and how quickly these forces can be engaged and disengaged. And will they fade after prolonged use? When does perma fade set in? Then, to make sense of these numbers and put them in context, I also think you should consider adding tables of comparison with all the other high end wheels on the market - the ones your viewers may be using. But like I said, good review, just too thin... Subbed, liked and shared!

You're vids are like a calm intelligence in a sea of excitable bell ends. Keep up the good work.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude, as always.

The comment about not spinning anymore I could 100% agree. While I don’t have a DD, when I switched from T-300RS to ClubSport I noticed I could definitely catch snaps on the rear end that I couldn’t before.

Very informative. Thanks

Thanks, a great and concise video. Important information for us all, who make future plans regarding upgrading their setup from the consumer market stuff.

Your voice is sooooo calming it’s awsome

I enjoyed your commentry and hope you do more in the Sim field. . Your very easy to listen to and I enjoyed your content. . Get a Alloy frame . You deserve it. . 🏎 🏎 🏎

You have a knack for explaining stuff. Patiently awaiting my dd1 so I can finally find out myself. Not ready to upgrade my f1gt too though!

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks SlowBloke - I was on the DD1 waiting list as well, and well, now I'm not! You may be able to do something to stiffen the rig if you experience the same problems I have. It's not a showstopper, but once you notice it, it's a bit disconcerting!

@SlowBloke123

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHaye fingers crossed

I'm looking to get back into sim racing and was hoping to find a good quality channel with mature, well put together content. Looks like I found it!

wow, great video. This is what i needed and wanted to see/hear. Thank you so much for this great video. +++++

Thanks for learning me some stuff about DD!

You make hella of good points. Thank You!

Great content, love the professional delivery

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude - much appreciated :)

Cheers thanks for the video, waiting on my Fanatec DD

I don't have a wheel, and don't really intend to get one. However, I love car games and I subscribed to your channel so that you may have the opportunity to convince me. Thanks for talking normally and making informative videos.

Thrustmaster TS-PC Racer and love it looked at some Direct Drive Wheel but all the ones I looked where out of my price range but loved the video

Brief , up to the point, very informative!

Glad you posted the simcube link. I definitely am not ready for a dd wheel. I will get a high end belt drive wheel and spend a few years in the seat. I will know when I am ready to geek out on all the controllable elements in an OSW...in the future. Again, great vid.

Sub earned, i like how you explain, details, calm.

Great video! Natural voice over very good. 😄

Very good video as always Chris. If you find the time please reflect on how it affected your ontrack performance in terms of laptime and consistency. When I see people driving circles around me consistently in an old G27 then I doubt a DD wheel would get me any closer to them ;-)

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude. Honestly, my lap times are pretty much the same - which is what I suspected going in. I see it as a tool to enhance immersion more than a driving aid.

I hate it when people dont tell me about things, glad I got this video

I’m not really interested in this topic but you’re really easy to listen to 👌🏼

Wow this was a very helpful video! I am looking into building a set up and can't decide weather I should spend more on the Direct drive box and wheel or the frame and seat. After this I think I'll go for the mid range belt wheel and steering wheel. Probably shoot for one of those rumble boxes to put under my seat.

Just bought the fanatec podium! So happy I waited!

I love how some people always say equipment doesn't make you better or faster. Then other people like Chris talk about the better equipment it's always "this is easier, that's easier, i got X seconds faster", etc.

Hey, I really liked your video, very interesting topic and such an calming voice. I just wanted to say that you maybe should consider regulating the bass in your microphone settings a bit. I'm listening on speakers and I have to turn down the bass to an unusual ammount to understand you clearly. Apart from this very nice work I like it ^-^

I love your way you explain the info out love it.

Great overview. Thank you. ;)

Great video very intuitive. I have a game pod rig which is about 8 years old now but still in very good condition . The wheel deck is very similar yours so until this video I thought I would have to buy both wheel and rig together . I currently use the Thrustmaster TGT wheel which is 6nm so maybe if I got a wheel it would be able to handle it and the rig could wait until I have paid for my wheel . Thanks Chris this was a great help . Keep the videos coming 👍

Informative, thanks!

I didn't have a clue what he is talking about but man is his setup mesmerizing.

Ohh Chris ffs! Reading the title I was so happy and expected to hear about what's never told, why it is NOT worth it. And then... All good, even better than I thought. I wanted to see something negative to make me not want one. Now I have one more video to validate my desire to have a direct drive wheel. XD

Yeah, I very much enjoyed listening to Chris Harris talking about simracing. Thanks Chris

Great video, just one question did you have to drill new holes into the F1-GT to mount the wheel?

Thank you for respecting your viewers enough not to beg for likes and subs upfront and getting right into the video!

"Hi fellow Sim Racers." That's enough for me, I heard his voice and instantly subbed.

I think this video is very relevant at the minute since the CSL DD was announced. Lot of people getting lost in debate about 5 or 8Nm not being enough or whatever.

Spot on video. Love the calm and collected commentary as well. I really suffer with RRRE FFB on my OSW, would you be awesome and share you settings if you haven't done so already?

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man - someone else asked me to share my R3E settings as well, so I'll try and make a point of taking a screenshot next time I'm on the rig. The FFB isn't perfect, there's still a tiny bit of a 'notch' in the centre, but I've managed to get rid to most of the, for want of a better word 'lumpy' feel that it seems to have by default. It's weird, because it felt great on the T300!

@MrAllister88

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHaye Indeed I understand that the G27s and the like work great in RRRE. It's a real shame as I love the car rota in the game, it just feels lack luster to say the least on my OSW. Have you done much with Automobilista?

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Not lately - I've been suffering with a lot of crashes in AMS, which has rather taken the shine off of the experience.

Sweet video man

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan - much appreciated.

What they dont tell you: it may destroy your arms if used without virginity protection gloves.

@hawhaw6957

2 жыл бұрын

do you even have a sim ? these gloves protect the wheel and also it protects your hand i literally just had my skin cut this morning while drifting since sometimes i gets hard

@biscuitsspam

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawhaw6957 its a joke from Jimmy Broadbent...

I think you mean latency not speed; torque is good but latency (time taken for the feedback to be felt) is crucial - great channel

I really love the way you explained everything. Exactly what I needed to hear. Thank-you.

Well I built my own woods rig, and does not move 1 bit. Solid as rock. Just got my dd2 and Heusinkveld pedals, and blown away by the quality

With ACC and the adjustable caster, I am very happy I have A DIrect Drive wheel. I can feel the front tires when on edge ( this ledge is not like a scrubbing, or slidding feeling, instead it will make the wheel go from 10lb wheel force to 3lb wheel force), fall of it, the wheel goes soft, Knowing you now are on the loosing grip side, and you better slow down.,

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man. I agree with this completely. A lot of people dislike the ACC FFB because it has a bit less 'granular detail' - which I think is mostly chassis vibration. However, as you say, you can feel so much more useful information about how the tyres are behaving, in particular from the sidewall.

@silviutudorescu8114

4 жыл бұрын

It’s weird my simucube 2 doesn’t change torque when going from grip to no grip! :S

Spent 3 grand on my electronics (wheel, drive, pedals, etc.).. the best choice i ever made was building a 2x4 framed racing rig out of lumber from home depot. 50 bucks in materials and its more rigid than any production rig/seat ive ever tried. Give it a shot.

@BaioWithMayo

4 жыл бұрын

I welded mine together (practice before I started working on actual roll cages and structural stuff in my real car) and yeah if you got the DIY skill lumber or metal are totally worth the cash saved. And it's got a cool factor something bought just doesnt have

@markcuban5915

4 жыл бұрын

Lol 3k spent 7k on all my stuff

@OrdinaryLatvian

4 жыл бұрын

@@markcuban5915 ...and?

@markcuban5915

4 жыл бұрын

@@OrdinaryLatvian 3k isn't alot for a sim rig that's the price of my wheel base and pedals and two steering wheels alone...

@LoneLostRanger

3 жыл бұрын

@@markcuban5915 nice ego man

Excellent video!!

Nice vid! And nice rig. See you are using the V3 pedals still. Is that going to change?

I so extremely want a DD wheel. Currently, because of space and cost not feasible for me though. As always, your videos are excellent. You really have a knack for explaining and narration(?) I guess?

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tiies - as always. It's a big investment, and to be honest, if I didn't have a KZread channel, I'm not sure if I'd have made the upgrade. I was quite happy with my little ol T300 :)

@Sternendrache11

5 жыл бұрын

I've still got my trusted G27 here :D I do have that for 5 years now though.Which is why I am looking for some kind of upgrade.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

To be fair, with a G27 - 5 years is just the break in period, there's still plenty of life left in it I'm sure!

@Sternendrache11

5 жыл бұрын

There definitely is! Apart from reverse gear not registering on the H-Pattern, everything else is in pristine condition. I really think it could easily last 5 more years.

Thanks for this informative video

This is knowledgeable and informative. It is an interesting insight for me As I also have a T 300 on a next level wheel stand and have been considering a DDR upgrade. What I don't understand is 100+ thumbs down! Really good work. Thank you

@nflisrigged1395

4 жыл бұрын

Try TS-PC wheel

Have you tried to stiffen up the steering wheel stand sideways? It seems to be moving sideways, and you could counteract this with a cross between left and right riser, or just a plate bolted in.The longer separation of the upper and lower bolt will increase the stiffness. This should stiffen it up so it won't move sideways. From the movie, it seems to do that.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

You're quite right. And your proposed solution sounds great. There's a lack of lateral stiffness across the wheel-deck, which allows it to twist.

Thanks for the video

Great video Chris! I'm glad you talked about detail rather than just the strength of the direct drive wheel - detail to me is far more important than the strength. I realised this when stepping from a G27 to a T500RS - the first thing I did was turn the strength down! I am curious what mad you choose this direct drive wheel over it's competitors like Accuforce and Fanatec?

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude. Honestly, I was on the pre-order list for the Fanatec wheel, but I didn't have the luxury of waiting for the delay. I'd always preferred the idea of an OSW, but the Fanatec being plug and play with my pedals and shifter was a pretty big selling point, especially for some older / less simulator like titles that don't support multiple input devices. As for Accuforce, the cost of shipping one to the UK was a bit too much to swallow - that and I'm not a fan of the bundled rim.

@RubberStig

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHaye Thanks for the reply Chris. Love your videos!

@skittle111

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. Another very informative and enjoyable video.

Chris, I agree about the sliding point you raised. I only have an Accuforce DD wheel but I still have found catching slides induced by my poor driving it a lot more intuitive and successful than with my Fanatec Belt driven wheel.

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Heh, indeed. I've found that I'm more 'active' with the wheel than I used to be, because feeling the grip limit is a lot easier.

@ericdeangelis7496

5 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, I gotta ask you..lately I've been eyeballing the exact OSW kit Chris has from simbay 20 Nm Bliss C 4.2 mil cpr.. but still part of me wonders about the Accuforce Pro V2 as the Sim Commander software should eliminate the need to tweak cfg files plus individual FFB settings per car and even physics driven Buttkicker capability as an added bonus. So I guess my question is do you like the Accuforce? Crave more torque? The Accuforce is considerably cheaper for me to get here in Canada. ( And even comes with the rim! ) I too will be upgrading from a belt driven TS-PC Racer so any insight would be appreciated.

@pitlanes

5 жыл бұрын

@@ericdeangelis7496 I came from a Fanatec V2 and still find myself turning down the FFB as even though the Accuforce is not the most powerful DD base its got far more power than i will ever need and will make my arms ache after a long race. I enjoy using the auto profiles Sim Commander creates for most sim titles and i only have to tweak a couple of sliders and i am good to race.

I was driving with a DFGT for years, and a G29 for the last 2, despite the brushless motor designs, my skills and consistency have improved dramatically thanks to FFB, but I'm wondering, with more detailed information from the wheel, have you found yourself able to be more consistent and precise thanks to the feel and information provided by the motor?

good video mate

Great video mate, well put together. Can you tell me whether it’s realistically possible to attach a direct drive wheel to a coffee table or desk? Or would that be a complete waste of money? Thanks in advance. Great exposition of the differences, thank you

I bought the feel VR direct drive system to replace the cls elite that I already bought. And am glad that the rig which I have too could stand the power of direct drive wheels! The feel VR wheel base could go up to a torque of 15n if am not wrong, so glad I won't have to buy another bulkier rig.. It's not as rigid as other frames but I think if the power is toned a bit down it would work well.

Great video and will help many when purchasing a DD wheel. Can I ask is there anything i could be missing with my DD wheel. I also purchased mine from Jed at STR and he delivered to my home which was good of him and didnt charge me delivery so was a nice £20 save (I live in Birmingham where they are based). Any little tips you could give me would be great. I've had it a few months now but havent had time to fully get to grips with it. one thing I did notice is how easy it is to catch slides. you feel it slip out instantly which is wonderful. I see you have the Motamec Rim as I do but is the SRC button plate? do you recommend? It was the button plate I have had to wait for as they are not cheap and some are more expensive than the DD wheel its self. I paid £820 for my 20nm DD wheel and the cheapest button plate I've seen of good quality was £500 which is unreal.

Very informative, thanks Chris. Love to take the plunge with a DD wheel, your video has convinced me to get saving. Would your advice be the 30nm version is un-neccessary?

@ChrisHaye

5 жыл бұрын

Hi glen - Honestly, I've not used the 30Nm, so I can't say for sure. But, 100% at 20Nm is still more than enough to make your wrists/thumbs hurt after a while! There's plenty of dynamic range, so you can feel the subtle forces (in sims that are conducive to such things), and then the wheel loads up more as you go through faster corners. I think the 30Nm would give a little more headroom, but at a guess, you'd probably not end up using the extra torque 95% of the time. Have a look at the settings William is using in the article I linked in the description. He's got the 30Nm MiGE, and it seems that his ideal setups seem to use around 50%.

@Tintop

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHaye "But, 100% at 20Nm is still more than enough to make your wrists/thumbs hurt after a while!" ..what?... I can barely turn the wheel at 100% in Simucube tool... ok I have it at 100% in the tool all the time and adjust in the sim, but for example at 60% in raceroom it gets really tough.. i usually drive at 35% in raceroom). in ACC I have gain at 30%. At 50% in Dirt Rally I twisted my wrist :-D ....but have to say I have a Momo Mod27, so it's smaller than your wheel and therefor I need more force to turn it. Also I tweaked the 12.5A ouput from the Servo Drive to 15A (in the Granite Software)

@Erowens98

5 жыл бұрын

30nm is enough to injure you if you're not careful. 20nm is already nearing that threshold. 30nm is also only really something you'll encounter on older race cars, so unless you're really into historic racing it wouldn't even be realistic. So id say 30nm is more of a niche within the niche for people who want to drive a specific kind of car.

@Tintop

5 жыл бұрын

@@Erowens98 even when driving virtual older racecars you wouldn't need 30Nm because old race cars had steering wheels with huge diameter. so for example when the old race car had a 60cm steering wheel and you drive it with a 30cm rim in the sim, the servo would only need half the torque to replicate the real forces . Let's assume that an old race cars steering had 30Nm torque at the steering axis (so 30N force on the end of a 1m lever attached to the axis): If you have your 30Nm servo at full power and now use a common 30cm wheel you effectively have to fight 200N of force ---> (30N*1m)/0.15m = 200N. With an old 60cm wheel it would be 100N. To get these 100N force with your 30cm wheel you need to dial down the torque to the half (half the diameter)---> (15N*1m)/0.15m = 100N That all implies that an old race cars steering feels like a 60cm rim on a 30Nm motor... If that's the case, a 15Nm servo would be still well sized :) unless you really use huge diameter wheels haha

@1984kylea

5 жыл бұрын

It's all personal preference but I don't even run the 13nm Accuforce at 100%, although I am at about 80% or so. Like he said in the video it's not really about the power, more about speed and fidelity.

Hey Chris! What about Bass Shakers? Im really looking into the 4 mini bass shakers rig setup. Any suggestions? I've tried it once on a friend's rig and it blew me away. Feeling your rear right tire clipping some apex textures is a whole new beast in regards to immersion. It's the subtleties in sim racing that really add color to the experience. I just wanted your take maybe even setup guide?