Is this why Venus lost its oceans? | BBC Global

The Earth and Venus are made of similar material and are about the same size.
Yet one planet has an abundance of water and the other is bone dry.
When and how did this happen?
Researchers at the University of Colorado Boulder think the answer lies in a non-thermal process called 'HCO+ Dissociative Recombination'.
We spoke with co-lead researcher of the study Dr Michael Chaffin to learn more.
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  • @revolutionhamburger
    @revolutionhamburger20 күн бұрын

    I'm not mad at Venus. It's her close relationship with the Sun that was her primary problem.

  • @neptune1525

    @neptune1525

    9 күн бұрын

    Hahaha soo funny 😊

  • @manuelvale3996
    @manuelvale399629 күн бұрын

    0:25 that is mars on the left, not Venus.

  • @kidmohair8151

    @kidmohair8151

    29 күн бұрын

    that is the radar imaging of Venus' surface. none of the surface features of Mars are visible in the one spin around its axis it takes.

  • @jaredupchurch7819

    @jaredupchurch7819

    28 күн бұрын

    That was very obviously Valles Marineris

  • @randyreynolds4252

    @randyreynolds4252

    28 күн бұрын

    @@kidmohair8151 so Venus has the same giant scar? go back and look, is clearly the scar from Mars

  • @manuelvale3996

    @manuelvale3996

    28 күн бұрын

    @@kidmohair8151 some are radar images of Venus. The one I mentioned is mars. The 3 volcanoes and vallis marineris.

  • @chuckylugs9607

    @chuckylugs9607

    28 күн бұрын

    @@jaredupchurch7819 and the three huge volcano’s too, Olympus Mons ..can’t remember the other two names 🤯❗️

  • @salam-peace5519
    @salam-peace551914 күн бұрын

    Imagining that Venus probably looked like earth in its early times with oceans and maybe even life is fascinating. I wonder if there could still be fossils left of any life from Venus' ocean phase that we could possibly find one day.

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop

    @DrumToTheBassWoop

    8 күн бұрын

    No, its volcanically active, most likely all sedimentary rock has been recycled.

  • @GeorgeGiann

    @GeorgeGiann

    7 күн бұрын

    Perhaps. But then again, look at how hot our summers are, here on Earth.. can you imagine being that close to the Sun?

  • @kellydalstok8900

    @kellydalstok8900

    4 күн бұрын

    @@GeorgeGiann Venus is still within the habitable zone, as is Mars.

  • @c.guibbs1238
    @c.guibbs123818 күн бұрын

    There is also a likeliness that Venus never saw liquid water on its surface. As Venus was always hotter than Earth, water might have stayed supercrtical and later removed by the Solar Wind. As Venus does not display any evidence of liquid water flows (unlike Mars), we will never know...

  • @alexbowman7582

    @alexbowman7582

    13 күн бұрын

    Venus’s surface may have melted due to a huge impact.

  • @yancgc5098

    @yancgc5098

    10 күн бұрын

    The surface of Venus doesn’t display water flows because the whole planet went through a global resurfacing event a few hundred million years ago, completely changing how the surface looked

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman758213 күн бұрын

    I think Venus may have been Earth like with oceans until a huge object collided with Venus, melting the crust and boiling off the oceans.

  • @mattbrown-mb
    @mattbrown-mb29 күн бұрын

    Nice sound design - any chance of the creatives being credited?

  • @dabrams84

    @dabrams84

    13 күн бұрын

    They don't read the comments but if you go to their website there will be multiple points of contact. You may be able to find this video on their website which might credit them.

  • @DarkHelixia
    @DarkHelixia16 күн бұрын

    Even the Goddess of Love has to dry up eventually...

  • @kellydalstok8900

    @kellydalstok8900

    4 күн бұрын

    Was it hot flashes?

  • @forcetheedges
    @forcetheedges26 күн бұрын

    Wow, what a coincidence, my favorite grindcore band is also called HCO+ Dissociative Recombination!

  • @goodone5590

    @goodone5590

    9 күн бұрын

    Maybe, its the Lord Jesus?

  • @JavenarchX
    @JavenarchXКүн бұрын

    This was interesting. The only problem was that it kept on showing Venus without an atmosphere when it's talking predominantly about the atmosphere.....

  • @DavidGalich77
    @DavidGalich7729 күн бұрын

    I wonder which planet was more like Earth; Mars or Venus?

  • @Asteroid_Bennu

    @Asteroid_Bennu

    29 күн бұрын

    Earth today or Early Earth? Because Early Earth was nothing like it is today!

  • @zzappligator

    @zzappligator

    29 күн бұрын

    I suspect Hadean Earth and Hadean Venus were pretty much alike.

  • @RealUlrichLeland

    @RealUlrichLeland

    28 күн бұрын

    Earth and Venus are very close in mass and proximity to the sun, but Venus' days are longer than it's years and it has no moons.

  • @legitbeans9078

    @legitbeans9078

    24 күн бұрын

    @@RealUlrichLeland And it spins backwards lol. Venus is a weird one

  • @markminter1
    @markminter19 күн бұрын

    They’re using a globe of Mars…not Venus

  • @owenpancoast1163
    @owenpancoast11632 күн бұрын

    0:25 that's Mars on the left🤦‍♂

  • @AKSnowbat907
    @AKSnowbat90725 күн бұрын

    You're not taking into account the creation of our moon. The ice on that planet and the minerals in it we left on earth. Venus did not experience this so it may have only had water equal to comet impacts.

  • @Sekhem
    @Sekhem29 күн бұрын

    So, this theory solves the previously observed deuterium and hydrogen ratio problem?

  • @splifsend

    @splifsend

    27 күн бұрын

    no

  • @michaelcharlesthearchangel
    @michaelcharlesthearchangel28 күн бұрын

    Earth absorbed the water as it formed a spiral ring that came within the Earth and Moon's orbit.

  • @Andrew-is7rs
    @Andrew-is7rs28 күн бұрын

    It lost its ocean because it was twatted by a proto planet that caused Venus to not only spin in the opposing direction but also very very slowly too.

  • @leiathedog999

    @leiathedog999

    24 күн бұрын

    Being "twatted" is the proper scientific term.

  • @NyanyiC
    @NyanyiC28 күн бұрын

    How did this all come into existence?

  • @arsalanhasan2953
    @arsalanhasan295329 күн бұрын

    Is there any kind of chain reaction we (humans) start on Venus's atmosphere to produce water and rain down that water so the planet gets cool and suitable for life as we know it?

  • @DeFraans

    @DeFraans

    29 күн бұрын

    since you need the hydrogen, they would need to import a lot, because 3cm of water is really not much to live off for a planetary ecosystem.

  • @ThePieIsNotALie

    @ThePieIsNotALie

    29 күн бұрын

    For cooling, you can put "sunshades" between the sun and Venus. You could make them almost tinfoil-thick and cover a massive area with relatively little effort. Plausibly doable now, if you could find the money. There's too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Sequestering some in the basalt crust, or the silicon dioxide in the mantle, might be options. Bombardment won't eject much carbon dioxide. Nudging an object from the Kuiper belt into Venus' orbit, with enough mass to potentially give Venus a new moon, is an idea. Directly removing the carbon dioxide is surprisingly difficult, courtesy of the high escape velocity and dense atmosphere (~90bar). Bombarding it with hydrogen does get you two birds with one stone; turning carbon into graphite and oxygen into water. You'd only need something in the range of 40,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes. On the more theoretical side, you could build a large "stellaser", that would draw both power and hydrogen directly from the sun, to "shoot" hydrogen at Venus. If you do manage to thin Venus' atmosphere, congratulations! Courtesy of the planet's slow rotation speed, there's now a massive temperature difference between sun-side and dark-side. Might have to expand those solar shades to regulate an artificial day/night cycle. Also, you still don't have a proper magnetosphere. Serious terraforming of planets is an arduous, and typically destructive, process.

  • @dphuntsman

    @dphuntsman

    28 күн бұрын

    Need hydrogen. If we were seriously interested in terraforming Venus, “easiest” way might be steering comets into it which adds water/hydrogen (but also, energy).

  • @tsovloj6510

    @tsovloj6510

    28 күн бұрын

    The Bosch reaction would be the easy one (hydrogen + CO2 in the presence of an iron catalyst produces graphite and water), and it produces energy, so it's got a great cost/benefit ratio if you're thinking terraforming thoughts, but you'd need to import the hydrogen, which would be a long and laborious process; you'd either have to truck it in from the outer system gas giants (probably Uranus, least steep gravity well) or somehow harness the solar wind. This is a centuries to millennia type of project, realistically.

  • @apollosungod2819

    @apollosungod2819

    28 күн бұрын

    First you need to have Space Tug boat ships. Then send those space tug boats to tow any huge ice rocks over the very "vast" distances required to find them by scanning the solar system... most of them may be found closer to the Asteroid Belt and beyond and the towing has to be very controlled... Next drop those large ice covered rocks or hopefully higher percentage ice balls on to Venus. Next you will need a significant amount of ice rocks to drop on Venus...

  • @countryside_guy
    @countryside_guy27 күн бұрын

    Can't understand what she's saying.

  • @striker44
    @striker4421 күн бұрын

    Good topic but bad narration. Slow down, pause a bit for strong effect.

  • @MrJacksspleen
    @MrJacksspleen5 күн бұрын

    It's taken decades of landing rovers on Mars to theorize the amount of water Mars once had. Venus has had a fraction of that exploration, so exactly how have we determined the amount of water that was once on Venus? Is it just an assumption that it must have had as.much water as Earth because of its size? Considering the prominent theories of how Earth got its water, how could you make that assumption?

  • @agent109g8
    @agent109g830 минут бұрын

    If it evaporated then where did it go? Shouldn't there be traces of the gas in its orbit?

  • @stepaushi
    @stepaushi3 күн бұрын

    1:27 Why is venus' state considered "botched"? What does that mean???

  • @alwillcox

    @alwillcox

    2 күн бұрын

    "Parched", not "botched".

  • @stepaushi

    @stepaushi

    2 күн бұрын

    @@alwillcox OH! Thanks.

  • @moisessan1
    @moisessan111 күн бұрын

    Los perdio porque gira muy lento.

  • @epockismet76
    @epockismet7611 күн бұрын

    It's too young to have had oceans, anything else is pure speculation, and theory.

  • @ralphrex9118
    @ralphrex91182 күн бұрын

    Great, more fascinating stuff I can throw at people who have no interest in the wonders of reality, thanks BBC 🤓

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco5 күн бұрын

    Um, not a rocket scientist, but the proximity to the SUN maybe? What're the temps there on the sunny side? Not Mercury hot, but smok'n for sure! 450 degs C.....

  • @master-kq3nw
    @master-kq3nw10 күн бұрын

    Now dry desert

  • @dgpeachy4257
    @dgpeachy425719 күн бұрын

    I don't know, why are you asking me?

  • @hazzah5572
    @hazzah557211 күн бұрын

    0:30 Earth would have a 5km thick layer if you spread the oceans equally? No. That is not true. That is no more true than what they said about the Laurentian Abyss at the end of the Transformers Movie. Simple Google search for this kind of information is recommended. Avg ocean depth is 3.6 kilometers.

  • @amitrakshe5773
    @amitrakshe577313 күн бұрын

    Pluto left chat

  • @AceKiller9000
    @AceKiller900027 күн бұрын

    Shouldn't a correct title be: "is this *how* Venus lost it's oceans"...?

  • @markj3118

    @markj3118

    27 күн бұрын

    Oddly, no. With an apostrophe, it is a contraction for “it is”. Without an apostrophe, it is the possessive pronoun. Just one of many exceptions in English.

  • @AceKiller9000

    @AceKiller9000

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@markj3118 Sorry for confusion, i was actually substituting the word How instead of Why. This video seems to propose a method as a solution rather than a reason. We might learn How it happened, but unlikely we will learn Why ... any help with this. (Also i am curious about the its / it's dilemma now, thanks for another sleepless night! Lol joke)

  • @MrJacksspleen

    @MrJacksspleen

    5 күн бұрын

    First you need a video titled, "Is there any proof Venus ever had any oceans?"

  • @Ounk_cannabisteams
    @Ounk_cannabisteams15 күн бұрын

    Pictures by weather

  • @HansMilling
    @HansMilling28 күн бұрын

    If Venus had liquid water, we should send probes to discover if life was present there.

  • @splifsend

    @splifsend

    27 күн бұрын

    Russia already did - 3 times - and there's no life

  • @freebozkurt9277

    @freebozkurt9277

    26 күн бұрын

    @@splifsend Probes cannot even find life on earth. They have tested it.

  • @c.guibbs1238

    @c.guibbs1238

    18 күн бұрын

    The Soviets did it already : not a single probe can sustain the harsh conditions of Venus !

  • @YBM2007

    @YBM2007

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@@c.guibbs1238Sure it can, but not for very long. I've read 500 operational hours will be possible with current technology compared to an hour or so in the Venera days

  • @5ch3nk
    @5ch3nk26 күн бұрын

    Probably has something to do with Venus being 460 degrees.

  • @fanatamon

    @fanatamon

    22 күн бұрын

    Perish the thought.

  • @stepaushi
    @stepaushi3 күн бұрын

    0:15 Why should the planets being of similar material and similar size mean that "theoretically" they should have the same amount of water??? That is such an uninformed and silly statement for a scientific presentation. 🤦🏻‍♂

  • @desmondchoo3186
    @desmondchoo31862 күн бұрын

    Alien came and sucked all the water off Venus. Earth is next…

  • @crazieeez
    @crazieeez7 күн бұрын

    The Sun grow up to vaporize venus

  • @or3325
    @or332518 күн бұрын

    I think the average depth of an evenly spread ocean on Earth would be 3.682 km (Average ocean depth) * 0.71 (Ocean sufrace area / Total area) = 2.614 km. It's not 5 km

  • @MacVerick
    @MacVerick9 күн бұрын

    I think Venus had a moon then lost it

  • @tobik2627
    @tobik262728 күн бұрын

    interesting, and in 5 years theres a new theory.

  • @mrhassell
    @mrhassell29 күн бұрын

    Somebody is forgetting that Earth, has more Ocean content "Inside" the Earths planet, than it does on te surface. So does that mean, there are still perfectly surfable oceans, inside Venus?

  • @blueabattoir

    @blueabattoir

    29 күн бұрын

    I might have to look into that. I have never heard this before.

  • @paulpenfold867

    @paulpenfold867

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@blueabattoir the 'water' he's talking about is fused into the rock, it's not flowing water or an 'ocean', like the vanished surface water of Venus.

  • @ConcreteLand

    @ConcreteLand

    28 күн бұрын

    @@paulpenfold867this is correct.

  • @apollosungod2819

    @apollosungod2819

    28 күн бұрын

    The topic is "surface water on Venus" not other forms

  • @RealUlrichLeland

    @RealUlrichLeland

    28 күн бұрын

    We already know there are vast subsurface oceans on several icy moons throughout the solar system like Titan, Europa and Enceladus.

  • @jaydurocher1882
    @jaydurocher188212 күн бұрын

    Every planet moves from currently orbit.. mars used to be here. Now it's earth next is venus . Common wake up do your OWN research do the math based on how much a planet moved per year get a simulator app with all planets then you'll see

  • @A3Kr0n
    @A3Kr0n26 күн бұрын

    Maybe aliens changed Earth for a vacation spot and put cleverness in humans for their entertainment.

  • @fanatamon

    @fanatamon

    22 күн бұрын

    As good a guess as any, although the aliens screwed up with not removing the greed section of brain which pretty much is costing our planet a lot and us as a race.

  • @hazzah5572
    @hazzah557211 күн бұрын

    Looots of factual errors in this one.

  • @KootFloris
    @KootFloris29 күн бұрын

    Does that mean, with a warming up planet, we also might start to lose water?

  • @zzappligator

    @zzappligator

    29 күн бұрын

    I think that's part of what they're trying to figure out. But these time scales appear to be much longer than the 100-year scale climate change we hear about in the news that endangers our infrastructure and civilizations. Significant evaporation appears to be a 100 thousand or million year thing. On that larger scale, we also have Milankovich cycles that might freeze things again (ice ages).

  • @KootFloris

    @KootFloris

    29 күн бұрын

    @@zzappligator great reply

  • @G6JPG

    @G6JPG

    17 күн бұрын

    @@KootFloris Yes. On the few decades/century or so scale, we seem to be more in danger of having too _much_ water, albeit in the wrong places and contaminated (sea levels rising, deserts).

  • @KootFloris

    @KootFloris

    17 күн бұрын

    @@G6JPG And like they discovered in NL, Frisia 900x the accepted norm of PFAS

  • @IvanChrisantus
    @IvanChrisantus22 күн бұрын

    Jupiter is a reason there is no life on mars , and the sun is the reason there's no life on venus , while the earth is at the safe position , that's why we need to ask ourselves why ???

  • @londonoverground

    @londonoverground

    17 күн бұрын

    No we don't

  • @dougmurray7684
    @dougmurray768425 күн бұрын

    I wish I had that much hair only to leave it uncombed.

  • @j.pershing2197
    @j.pershing219728 күн бұрын

    Venus never had oceans. Its new

  • @majortwang2396

    @majortwang2396

    15 күн бұрын

    Grow up

  • @danjo8673
    @danjo867328 күн бұрын

    Since Venus rotates on its axis in the opposite direction of Earth, I've often wondered if Venus had collided with Earth which not only formed our Moon, but we got most of Venus's water in the process. Scientists have wondered how and why we ended up with so much water.

  • @apollosungod2819

    @apollosungod2819

    28 күн бұрын

    Asteroids are not always rocky... some are huge iceberg covered rocks in space.

  • @striker44

    @striker44

    21 күн бұрын

    Some kind of NFC action.

  • @YBM2007

    @YBM2007

    13 күн бұрын

    Interesting, that would make more sense than the mythical Theia in my feeble mind

  • @antimagicsword
    @antimagicsword29 күн бұрын

    Oof. Is hydrogen escaping from Mars as well?

  • @RealUlrichLeland

    @RealUlrichLeland

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes. Even on Earth, where the gravity is significantly stronger than Mars and Venus, Hydrogen is still light enough to escape the atmosphere into space. The reason this isn't a big deal on earth is because almost all of our hydrogen is bonded to oxygen in water molecules, and because our atmosphere is protected from solar winds by our magnetic field. There is some water on mars, but it's all either underground, chemically bound in the rocks or frozen solid at the poles. The reason Mars has hardly any atmosphere anymore is because it's magnetic field disappeared a long time ago. The convection of molten iron in the core is what creates the magnetic fields of earth, but on Mars the core cooled down much faster than earth because it's 9 times less massive. Without a magnetic field, Mars' atmosphere was gradually blasted into space by high energy charged particles from solar storms.

  • @RealUlrichLeland

    @RealUlrichLeland

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes. Even on Earth, where the gravity is significantly stronger than Mars and Venus, Hydrogen is still light enough to escape the atmosphere into space. The reason this isn't a big deal on earth is because almost all of our hydrogen is bonded to oxygen in water molecules, and because our atmosphere is protected from solar winds by our magnetic field. There is some water on mars, but it's all either underground, chemically bound to the minerals or frozen solid at the poles. The reason Mars has hardly any atmosphere anymore is because it's magnetic field disappeared a long time ago. The convection of molten iron in the core is what creates the magnetic fields of earth, but on Mars the core cooled down much faster than earth because it's 9 times less massive. Without a magnetic field, Mars' atmosphere was gradually blasted into space by high energy charged particles from solar storms.

  • @compactreview

    @compactreview

    28 күн бұрын

    Mars has no magnetic field and thus the atmosphere isnt protected against the sun. The atmosphere is very thin because of it. And all water in the surface with it. However, beneath the surface water is protected

  • @Dany-rx7rs
    @Dany-rx7rs29 күн бұрын

    Third comment, 60th viewer

  • @SylentEcho

    @SylentEcho

    29 күн бұрын

    Great! Here's your no-prize medal 🏅

  • @BeeFunKnee

    @BeeFunKnee

    29 күн бұрын

    @@SylentEcho Better hand out another 8 billion no-prize medals or else the rest of the world will get upset for getting left out, and then pretend-cry like they're all perfect victims.

  • @user-vp1sc7tt4m
    @user-vp1sc7tt4m28 күн бұрын

    Am I correct? Earth could also lose Hydrogen by the same process, just like Venus and Mars. Why is the process of hydrogen loss related to atmospheric and other conditions not more widely known? This is definitely a concern over the long period of time on Earth and should be considered.

  • @tobik2627

    @tobik2627

    28 күн бұрын

    its true, same happens to earth. earth loses about 100 tons every day.

  • @kuntalgo
    @kuntalgo12 күн бұрын

    And the aliens from Venus came to Earth and created democratic Nation states.

  • @Nabraska49
    @Nabraska4919 күн бұрын

    Yeah so why didn’t this happen to earth .. the obvious is that the planet is a lot closer to the sun and if was in the earth orbit it would probably look much like the earth.. my theory is that all planets were born from the sun .. mars is the old earth and Venus will one day be the new earth as the planets are slowly moving away from the sun and as they do so they pass through the habitable zone.

  • @YBM2007

    @YBM2007

    13 күн бұрын

    Venus is marginally closer to the Sun than Earth, tho it should be significantly hotter - not off the scales as it is per our understanding.

  • @Wigington24
    @Wigington2429 күн бұрын

    Allegedly nasholes

  • @acuantjahyadi7393
    @acuantjahyadi739311 күн бұрын

    Venus ??? BBC ??? 😂😂😂😂 💩💩💩💩💩

  • @Shadoweknows76
    @Shadoweknows7627 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂 Venus? I have a video of this planet (wandering star), and it shows the entity inside. All stars are fallen angels ✡️. I couldn't even watch the video because of the title being a lie.

  • @majortwang2396

    @majortwang2396

    15 күн бұрын

    You need to do less drugs

  • @accessdenied3379
    @accessdenied33796 күн бұрын

    So, it means we're going to loose our water within next few hundred years. Because we're moving towards hydrogen based fuels and machines for future.