The lumping of Ukrainian aid and banning Tiktok into a single bill reminds me of that bit in The Simpsons, where a bill to destroy a comet headed for Springfield is going to pass, until a congressman amends it to add federal funding for pornography, condemning the "Save Springfield and Perverted Arts Bill" to a landslide defeat.

@RafaelW8

10 күн бұрын

Simpsons did it again

@julesmoore8248

10 күн бұрын

We do omnibus bills in Canada too. I’ve seen stories of it elsewhere too. Any government that uses them should be banned from using the words “accountable” or “transparent”. Who’s reading 2000 page bills? Kinda scary to think some of these things get passed when not a single representative knows all of what’s in it.

@dtexdarkus

9 күн бұрын

In real life though a majority of either house would need to approve such amendment, would they almost certainly wouldn’t

@TheFinalChapters

9 күн бұрын

Omnibus bills are the closest thing to compromise you'll get. Basically, instead of two bills that don't have enough votes to pass, you have one bill that, while it includes some things many don't really want, do include other things that are important enough to pass both. This ultimately gets it the majority needed to pass.

@ELYELYELroy

9 күн бұрын

they weren't lumped together. it was two separate bills that needed two separate votes.

You have to remember this isn’t unusual. China banned KZread, lol.

@huckleberryfinn6578

10 күн бұрын

China banned also Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Wikipedia and every other platform that they can't censor.

@Richi_Boi

10 күн бұрын

And TikTok. Thats the greatest irony

@blueboy3990

10 күн бұрын

I support banning tiktok, but don't compare democracies to autocracies

@kuil

10 күн бұрын

@@Richi_BoiBaidu is ticktock without foreigners, and without the ‘fentanyl’ algorithm

@marioantoniocrespoMexican92

10 күн бұрын

@@kuil I’m a proud to be a Mexican 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

Why sell to American investors? Couldn’t they sell to a company in any country that doesn’t have laws like the 1993 one you mentioned?

@TheSkcube

10 күн бұрын

Because it's an American bill. This isn't about tiktok, this is about the US being able to force the sale of any non-American company.

@jtgd

10 күн бұрын

@@TheSkcubetiktok always has the option of not selling…

@xomifred

10 күн бұрын

So that Americans can do what CCP is doing.

@ironbolt2678

10 күн бұрын

China does also have strict rules and many western companies cannot really function over there. This is finally an answer

@krombopulos_michael

10 күн бұрын

I believe they could but there just is unlikely to be much interest in it from non-US companies

as someone who was in university in 2016, before tiktok was even a thing, pro-Palestine sentiment among young people is aggressively NOT a new thing

@marioantoniocrespoMexican92

10 күн бұрын

I was on twitch since 2012

@murtadha96

9 күн бұрын

It's a natural result of the internet as a whole. Younger generations can actually find information more easily and more readily, bypassing the garbage legacy media filter and aims to mould public opinion.

@prestondobber

9 күн бұрын

It’s kind of a young people thing, most of them grow out of it as they age. Either moderating their opinions or just losing interest in the issue all together.

@phoenix7015

9 күн бұрын

People weren't talking about it, like ever. Young and old. The issue is, most people on TikTok are uneducated about all topics, and are VERY gullible. Saw a post a few days ago about some BS regarding a completely made up star and people were buying it so easily without doing their own research. Same goes for Palestine & Israel - you can be pro-Palestine or pro-Israel for all you want, but before doing so, you should do your research and know what you're getting yourself into before joining the bandwagon and not chanting anything without knowing any prior history. This is coming from a Gen Z who has been on TikTok since 2018 and Vine since 2015.

@remimk

9 күн бұрын

@@prestondobber Maybe back then when it was a futile effort. but now after the horrors we personally witnessed? turning an entire city to blood, bones and ash? and after all the videos israelis post mocking their victims? This will be a generational memory.

I'm not going to weigh in on whether banning TikTok is consistent with Freedom of Speech or if it is a worthy exception, as well as if it's truly a slippery slope or not. All I will say is that I find the rhetoric about teenage mental health and the whole Palestine argument around it to be equally if not more applicable to KZread. That is to say, there's far more underlying reasons for it than just content suppression and/or algorithms cleating echo-chambers.

@bradleyf1342

10 күн бұрын

last i checked the 1st amendment did not cover app store's and banning apps sooooooo......

@DogsandPennies

10 күн бұрын

@@bradleyf1342wouldn’t it? Because the whole point is no banning of freedom of speech no matter how controversial. And a reason in the banning of TikTok seems to be that lots of people on it support Palestine and are spreading first hand accounts from there about what’s going on instead of just getting their information from US News sources.

@TheSkcube

10 күн бұрын

@@bradleyf1342 the US did rule that companies are people though.

@bradleyf1342

10 күн бұрын

@@TheSkcube not the genocidal ones, nope.

@TheSkcube

10 күн бұрын

@@bradleyf1342 that's not how it works lol

3:45 All things aside this graph is pretty disingenuous. The y-axis says it’s a 1-3 scale, but it’s been truncated to start at 1.97 and goes only to 2.13

@Interitus1

9 күн бұрын

it shows the highest and lowest points on the graph. the rest would be empty space. The data doesn't change

@Databolu

9 күн бұрын

@@Interitus1 The scale of the changes in happiness would look less significant if it was the full range 🫡

5:30 "American politicians don't like it because Israel doesn't" Well this explains it all 🙄

Considering the hoops foreign companies have to jump through to operate in China, it's about time America did something, but a forced sale seems a bit excessive.

@irtwiaos

10 күн бұрын

Lol you think US is a free for all for foreign companies. 😂

@jeffmorris5802

10 күн бұрын

Excessive? Ban all of it, I say. Social Media is trash

@Hexagonal_Goblin

9 күн бұрын

Personally I don’t think America should seek to emulate any of china’s policies, including bans on foreign companies.

@gp-1542

9 күн бұрын

To be fair I don’t think anyone will shed a tear for them

@BoredomIncarnate1

8 күн бұрын

@@jeffmorris5802 he says, while using KZread, which is a social media platform...

I can't believe we've been discussing this for as long as we have.

If certain contents don't appear on that platform, it doesn't directly mean it is controlled by Chinese gov. Companies in China are known to self-censor certain contents to avoid problems. Just like how companies would censor anti-certain-religion or gender etc, in the West. Censorship is everywhere wherever you look at it. You can't go up to The Guardian news and write your right-w stance.

Not a single word mentioning that the "ban" simply removes it from app stores in the US. users could still very easily install and use the app.

@murtadha96

9 күн бұрын

No they can't. Apple still doesn't allow for 3rd party stores (yet).

@SwissSareth

9 күн бұрын

@@murtadha96 well, that's your fault for using an apple device. android doesn't have such limitation. besides, apple can be jailbroken, if you really want to. also, if you install it before the removal, it's not going to disappear now, is it? and you can still use the web app even without installation.

I may note that while you're allowed to say whatever you want within the United States (as long as you don't use your free speech to commit a crime like defamation) Congress is allowed to regulate what goes in and out of it. After all, to quote Article I Section 8 of the Constitution "Congress shall have the power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts, and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

I would be more supportive of this ban if literally everything that they mentioned here couldn't be said about American companies too.

@gregorio8462

10 күн бұрын

American companies aren’t Chinese companies supported by the CCP.

@krombopulos_michael

10 күн бұрын

The entire purpose of the bill is that the data can be freely harvested by an adversarial government, which is a national security risk. That isn't true at all of the American companies.

@blabla12654

10 күн бұрын

The difference is that the elected American government oversees the American companies, and the American people still have ultimate control.

@al8704

10 күн бұрын

Fk tiktok

@Jonas_M_M

10 күн бұрын

Does the CCP control Facebook?

The thing is America regularly forces tech companies to give the government user data, and often without ever telling the public why, or what data, or how much. If even America does it, you can bet that China does it.

@dedoyxp

8 күн бұрын

America know the best that government can collect private company data

Wouldn't surprise me if TikTok is bought by Oracle, since they already handle their datacenters and algorithm (with heavy oversight from China), so even if the company normally has products like the programming language Java or the VM hypervisor VirtualBox, it would make sense for them seeing as they have all the infrastructure already. Alternatively, if Oracle doesn't buy them, it might be Microsoft, as they might want to compete with Google with their video platform.

@irtwiaos

10 күн бұрын

Or more likely TikTok just pull out of US and let these politician deal with the fall out from gen z and millenial reckoning.

@cbtillery135

10 күн бұрын

@@irtwiaos which would be the good ending

@weird-guy

8 күн бұрын

You know TikTok bleeds money? Meta wants the pie

So wait, the coubtry who ACTUALLY and PROVENLY check ALL of our communications, is worried that another country can do exactly the same? lol

@Yorick257

8 күн бұрын

That's the reason they're worried. They know how much info they extract, so naturally they expect everyone to do the same.

Love that intro song!

damn! you guys explained it well. keep it up!🎉

You know... With Oracle having access to TikTok's algorithms and data, under Project Texas, TikTok should just have them publish a report. Public trust is more important than just giving visibility to the government... Especially since the government can't be trusted to reveal info that damages their own agenda, to the public. TikTok's CEO said that the report about the scrubbing of anti-China content was a lie. But... We shouldn't have to trust them or US politicians on this issue.

I've never used tictoc myself, too old, but the hypocrisy here is laughable. Yeah, how dare a Chinese company do exactly what our proud American companies are doing? We need to force them to sell to us!

@Newbyte

10 күн бұрын

There is a crucial difference in that TikTok itself is banned in China since long.

@getnohappy

10 күн бұрын

Wow, who knew the world was so simple! Yes, there no difference at all between how the US and China are governed. What's next "well, all politicians are the same amirite?"

@hgmman

10 күн бұрын

Chinese companies are a bigger threat than American ones. I wholeheartedly agree with you that we are trading one evil with another, but trust me when I say that one is way worse than the other

@Leto2ndAtreides

10 күн бұрын

It's easy to assume that others want to do, what you want to do. But, the difference is that China probably doesn't feel that foreign surveillance is as critical to national security as the US does, post 9/11. So, China isn't objecting to TikTok allowing continuous US monitoring of its algorithms and who accesses its data (by Oracle).

@kremigmitsahne7197

10 күн бұрын

@@Newbyte it's not banned, it just isn't and never was a thing in China. The West wanted TikTok to make profits, and they got it. It's Users from the West who fill it with junk content, it's the Western government who decides against regulation, and it's mostly Western CEOs who run TikTok. Nothing to do with China. All your government's fault. They could do like China and protect and support their youth, but greed and attacking China is more important to the West.

The weird thing about the study on young people getting news from TikTok is the fact that young people in general get their news from the internet in general, people have been getting news from Twitter for years. Not to mention, I don't think young people are interested in watching the actual news, as the actual news can be just as if not more stress inducing compared to news on the internet due to it been filled with constant negativity.

@maui_lou

9 күн бұрын

Also mainstream news are so blatantly biased it'd be almost funny, if it wasn't sad and depressing.

I hate how our government lumps totally unrelated legislation into one bill and then names the bill something so vague yet so patriotic or noble sounding so that anybody who votes against it is criticized heavily and villainized 🙄 they’ll take the tiktok ban and Ukraine aid and put it in a bill called “save the puppies act” so when politicians vote against it bc of the tiktok ban bill for instance, then the media and their political rivals can drag them for voting against saving the puppies 🙄😂

*Makes video on Tiktok's US woes* *Adds in the Incogni ad at the end.* ...not just me seeing the irony here, right?

Maybe but once the courts are finished with this it is highly questionable whether it will hold up on constitutional grounds.

Thank you

The Chinese should close Tik Tok in the United States at 00:00 on Tuesday, November 5

I find it fascinating that politicians will look at the degree of unhappiness in younger people and seek to blame Tiktok and not, you know, crappy politicians.

@murtadha96

9 күн бұрын

And the fact that being pro-Palestine is "worrying" is hilarious on so many levels.

@JC-md5rq

9 күн бұрын

Depression and unhappiness is higher in young Americans than it’s ever been statistically. Did politicians just start being crappy?

@davidmylchreest3306

9 күн бұрын

@@JC-md5rq I perhaps worded it poorly. I meant crappy policies pushed by politicians that have led to things like massive wealth inequality, a failing environment, high cost of living, high debt, poor job opportunities, social injustice etc.) For example, I live in the UK, where our Prime Minister wants to tackle joblessness among the mentally ill (those off with depression anxiety etc.) by removing doctors from the diagnosis of patients altogether and replacing them with job centre workers who would be on bonuses for getting people back to work, while the PM is also threatening people who cannot work with a removal of their benefits. But the reason people are off for so long with these issues is that the PMs own party has spent the last 14 years under funding the NHS to the point of collapse that it takes years to see a fully qualified mental health professional and access the help you need. And in those years waiting not only can you not work, you might actually be getting worse, leading to a longer recovery. Or you could just pin the problem on social media lol.

@2dradon2

9 күн бұрын

Agreed. I don't use tiktok but imagine if they helped yonger generations with property buying and career prospects? But nope! Blame short videos (even though its escapism from all this)

@Yorick257

8 күн бұрын

@@JC-md5rq Tiktok has been around only for 6 years. Even if the decline has started 6 years ago, I would still call it mostly a coincidence. We've had Facebook, KZread, Twitter, and Reddit for much longer. So, banning Tiktok while turning a blind eye to other social media platforms seems hypocritical.

Hopefully

shut down tiktok and no more money sh t

Yes! Yes it is!

Well, tiktok should just leave... And probably have their engineer to make new/similiar app under new umbrella instead having Tiktok directly sold. Why? Because this give a message to the world that US is not really different than China about censoring content on their nation, just with different way from china.

@dedoyxp

8 күн бұрын

People wont go into the detail about how it doesnt really affect freedom of speech because tiktok could just being sold, they just know that US ban tiktok -> Tiktok leave

Let's hope so

@ultrabrian8151

10 күн бұрын

Be quiet dude

@bradleyf1342

10 күн бұрын

@@ultrabrian8151 11 months left....

GOD FORBID anyone but America tracks my data

@andrewmountford3608

10 күн бұрын

‘Posted from a smart phone’

@realkekz

10 күн бұрын

Correct.

@krombopulos_michael

10 күн бұрын

You know China doesn't allow any American social media companies to run there either?

@DOSFS

10 күн бұрын

To be frank... I still trust US gov. MORE than Chiese gov. and I am Asian.

@bot6349

10 күн бұрын

no more brain rot so sad, plus it's not like the ban doesn't make sense. american government wants exclusive right to american data lol

Dude, don't get me wrong. I wish we would also take tougher actions on American companies harvesting data from us, south globe countries. The US has their own Agenda just like China.

@remimk

9 күн бұрын

I mean the Arab spring was a facebook movement..

The more you put in a bill the more the opposition has to compromise with you.

Disliking every video that has implication that an automated request from a browser addon would somehow deter "shady data brokers" from selling my personal data to whomever they bloody like.

Teens with short attention span are getting to have even shorter attention spans thanks to TikTok.

@Buzy_Lizard

10 күн бұрын

It’s not just teens, it’s everyone. And it’s not just tiktok to blame too, tiktok just knew how to exploit our shortening attention spans, rather than being the ones who started it.

@darkhorseman8263

10 күн бұрын

Meanwhile, we have studies showing that social media has nothing to do with short attention spans, and it started before social media was even invented. Governments did it deliberately via education criteria, over regulation of children, and exposure to toxic chemicals. We also know it's our governments responsible for poor psychological health in children.

@xomifred

10 күн бұрын

Short attention span is caused by smart phones. Not TikTok.

@blueboy3990

10 күн бұрын

The whole attention span thing is a myth, my 50 yo father doesn't watch more than 20 seconds of 99% of videos, while my 4 yo cousin plays an incredibly boring game / video for hours ! On another note, I support banning tiktok, but this will not improve the kids' mental well being, because they're going to use alternatives which are pretty much just as bad as tiktok.

@AR-rg2en

10 күн бұрын

It's also affecting the older generation

Bring back the old intro music😏

We need to ban Ticktok in UK as well

@marioantoniocrespoMexican92

10 күн бұрын

We need to ban conservative people as well. I’m a proud liberal

@harshenvy

10 күн бұрын

ban ticktack 2024!

@MEHOLE

10 күн бұрын

Why though?

@Blue-kz3yk

10 күн бұрын

Who is we lol

@mellowmike6263

10 күн бұрын

We need to ban all social media tbh

How can they talk about banning Tiktok and be at the mercy of Google and meta 🤦‍♂️

@JamaicanJourno55

7 күн бұрын

They're coming after them too..I think congress is trying to disband Meta from having all their companies under 1 entity....interesting to see what comes of that! lol

@jeremyknappe1128

7 күн бұрын

They bought shares in them, ergo lining their own pockets in the process.

The end of TikTok in the US, not in the world 😂

Life will immediately get better if TikTok is banned. I want it out of my life. I can’t get away from friends and coworkers sending me TikToks 24/7

@sharpasacueball

9 күн бұрын

They'll just move to instagram or maybe vine will even make a comeback lol

Politicians pretending to be concerned about young people's mental health is hilarious. All the "problems" they attribute to TikTok exist on Meta's platforms too and they never did anything. Hypocrisy.

Y do we need incongni if i don’t use ticktok?

Remember Ladies and Gentlemen, China has banned most U.S social media platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, Threads, WhatsApp, KZread, X, Snapchat, Quora, Pinterest, Tumblr, GitHub, the list goes on. Tik Tok which is owned by a Chinese company is also banned. Chinas great firewall also controls search engines on what their citizens can and can’t view. 😂😂

Thanks to AIPAC.

Time for vine to comeback

these clicking sound effects are horrible. lmk if you need someone to help with audio engineering

I hope they sell, but if not, even better!

It would be a possible violation of tiktoks own first amendment rights. Corporations in the usa have the same rights as people.

@SugarMilk99

7 күн бұрын

TikTok is not an American company nor do they have any servers on US soil - so USA can’t violate their Amendment rights because they don’t have them. Maybe it’s unconstitutional for users but i don’t care … TikTok is garbage anyway and it’s already banned on government devices in 16 countries and totally banned in India. China bans all outside companies anyway … dirty business.

4:00 yeah, if they worry about mental health of young users, when they take some actions against other social media? There is nothing about Twitter or Facebook, and they work the same. Politicuans dobt care about children.

The whole "china is squashing pro-isreal" content is a bit misleading. Its all but impossible to determine if the lack of content is down to a self reinforcing algorithm (i.e. user are pro Palestine because of the content, or the content is pro Palestine because of the users) Additionally, young people are overwhelmingly pro Ukraine despite the inclusion of that content in the "suppressed" topics alongside pro isreal content

I sure hope it's the end of tiktok

As much as I loathe TikTok and all its brainrot. I feel there are much more important priorities that Congress could be addressing instead. Regardless, I will not mourn the loss of TikTok if it ever does come to pass because we need to stick it to the man, the man being the see see pee. Also, people have alternatives to use instead like KZread shorts and Instagram reels. What makes TikTok so damn special?

Let the adversary do more harm by spreading misinformation and propaganda and even want to fight in the court about constitution by pretending to ban it after so many years.

Looks like TikTok's days in the US might be numbered! Will this be the downfall of short-form video entertainment as we know it?

At least Tik Tok can fight this in court…unlike China, where you don’t have this option.

@Alex-fm5ke

10 күн бұрын

If the US government wanted to they could easily ban tiktok today

@SuperSmashDolls

9 күн бұрын

With this Supreme Court, who knows. There's a whole load of ways they could fuck this up: - "Forced sales aren't censorship because Trump paid Justice Thomas a bunch of money" - "Forced sales are censorship, so we're abolishing the FTC and all antitrust law, let's sell the US government for scrap"

What a bunch of crap

Oh I hope so.

They’re probably gonna sell TikTok to the US

Free market and free speech for others. Protectionism and control of media for me :)

@bradleyf1342

10 күн бұрын

the CCP has none of those things and ain't welcome in america anyway

Skip da ad 10;35

Honestly, legally speaking ticktock does bot have a good argument with 1st amendment protections. There are a couple of arguments they could use with the first amendment. 1st, they could argue that it is a voilation of ticktock's first amendment rights. Businesses because of a supreme court cases do have these rights. However, the sumpreme court couls interpret ticktock's personhood as a foreign citizen. This would mean they have linited rights. So the argument would fail. 2nd, Ticktock could argue this voilates 1st amendment rights of people's ability to have free speech. Now, free speech is still limited and it is also limited against espionage or harmful speech. It would be easy to argue that ticktock can easily be used for espionage, bevause it does harvest data and link to a foriegn interest opposed the US. As such, this argument is weak. 3rd, Ticktock argues that this law violates americans freedoom of the press. Out of all the first amendment arguments, I would say this is strongest and also dangerous argument. The problem is that this could lead to the notion that social media should be consider like town squares instead of independent press because generation of news is from the people meeting and sharing ideas. All in all, it is not loking good for ticktock. Maybe they have somekind of 1st amendment argument that will destroy the opposition. However, like the video mentioned, while the court battle goes on, ticktock will lose money.

However Israel is both foreign and influential and that was not mentioned.

Good,end the fucking thing which has burned people's brain cells for years one small step towards something better when it comes to people mental health, communication and generally interaction with the reality around them.

No In Indonesia Tiktok still number 1 And Indonesia and china combined are really colossus market

@maclain728

10 күн бұрын

TikTok is banned in China mate…

@Droidman1231

10 күн бұрын

There is a different version of TikTok in China vs internationally. Not even China wants Chinese people using TikTok LOL

@sharpasacueball

9 күн бұрын

The US market is still huge despite the lower numbers because an average American spends many times more than an average person in those 2 countries combined. Also they use a mainland alternative in China

I mean, the government has no issue trampling on the 2nd amendment so I have no doubts they're gonna care about the 1st amendment

They will just create something else if you years ago was Snapchat now it’s TikTok it will be something else soon enough.

They should agree to sell it for a 1 trillion $.

@TheStopwatchGod

10 күн бұрын

No one will buy it then, not even FAANG, and then TikTok will be banned in the U.S.

I mean it's ok for Tik tok to be banned! The Us government cannot allow ccp control their teenagers minds! However I don't get why it should be an American company? Can't a French company do the same?

We live in a age of VPN, this don't mean a thing for users, just' shows the america gov shitting their pants in public.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Banning platforms because we don't like the owner is NOT the American way. It's bullshit. The law is unconstitutional.

@Dendricklystable

10 күн бұрын

How does banning tiktok violate this?

@TheFinalChapters

9 күн бұрын

The US isn't banning Tik Tok. All they have to do is be owned by a US company.

@nubemuffin

9 күн бұрын

@@TheFinalChapters That's absurd, and it's going to inspire foreign countries to do the same damn thing to U.S. companies. Every country is just going to nationalize every single company operating within its borders? The product ByteDance is selling is a legal product, and If people want to waste their time on tiktok, that's their own damn choice. If the U.S. doesn't like the way the company is using/storing data, they should make regulations regarding that.

@nubemuffin

9 күн бұрын

@@Dendricklystable It's congress making a law that abridges the freedom of speech. It's a platform that's functionally no different than X, Facebook, KZread, etc. It's being banned only because it's owned by a Chinese company. That's not the American way. In the past, the U.S. could say, look at China/Russia/North Korea, always banning our platform's, so anti-freedom. But now, what can the U.S. say? Nothing. No high ground. Do you really want to live in a country where the government can just decide who can and can't own a company?

@TheFinalChapters

9 күн бұрын

@@nubemuffin You seem to have missed the part where China is a foreign *adversary.* As in, our objectives aren't aligned and it's entirely plausible for them to conduct damaging cyber operations against us. Forcing certain "products" to be controlled domestically is not new.

Why US banning Tik Tok will be the end of Tik Tok ?. US has like 300M people and there population is collapsing. The world has 8B people

@SugarMilk99

7 күн бұрын

Learn how to use the internet. 16 countries have also banned TikTok on government devices including US - we’re all in line to ban TikTok like India did. That platform is garbage anyway.

@Silent_Shishya

13 сағат бұрын

6.6B * India banned tik tok long ago. That's 1.4 Billion people market blocked for tiktok

Just want to say good job as always for providing a nuanced, neutral and concise take on specific issues. I get my global news mostly from TLDR, not tiktok.

This law is precisely why the US is just China, with better PR thanks to legacy branding. The question is what else will they force to sell to the US. Just like all immigrants going to the US, you got to be sold to American. They will own you. The only different is you won't be shipped from Africa this time, but from other places and many times voluntarily, thinking you go for freedom and opportunity. Opportunity alright, of whose. And it's freedom until you're successful, and they'll force you to sell your business to an American. Unlike China where you have to sell first, then enter, American wait for you to finish the hard work first, and force you to sell.

@Legenerale69

9 күн бұрын

What the hell are you smoking I can criticize our politicians without being jailed or worry about my social credit score decreasing. I can Google the Trail of Tears, while you’d couldn’t look up the 1989 Tiananmen Square Incident.

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FUCK TIKTOK!

No, this is the end of America

One of the scariest things about this (and the thing that completely swapped my opinion on this) were the Chinese diplomats trying to sway and lobby American officials to not ban it. Completely destroyed the idea that tiktok was sperate from the ccp and that china don't benefit from it.

@freeofgreed

10 күн бұрын

How is that scary? That happens all the time, Did you know that Facebook and Aipac tried to sway government officials to ban it? It's called lobbying and it's 100% legal. Now if you don't like lobbying you should be against banning lobbying in general. not just one company/country does it.

@the0ne809

10 күн бұрын

Not a fan of China at all since Xi Jinping is literally a dictator now but let's be honest, Russia didn't use tiktok in 2016 to influence the election. They literally used Facebook. China can still almost all of that data from buying it from other other platforms. That's what law enforcement does in the US in order to avoid getting a warrant from a judge. If Congress were serious about protecting data so it cannot be used to spread disinformation, they should have passed a different type of bill.

nah i'd win

The small hat religious group in America are mad that the can’t censor TikTok.

I think it's interesting how quickly congress mobilized to make this move against Tiktok (considering how slow and impotent they proport to be on certain issues) after the genocide in Gaza.

@davidrobertson9174

10 күн бұрын

I just watched Good Work and their video focusing on insider trading by congress. Bipartisan support for banning it (about 87%) but nothing has happened for years.

@huckleberryfinn6578

10 күн бұрын

They considered this move for years, as mentioned in the video.

@krombopulos_michael

10 күн бұрын

It wasn't that quick, it's been talked about for years and there was a similar bill already passed the House a few months ago that got held up in the Senate, where it has less enthusiastic support. This time the House lumped together with military bills that the Senate wanted to pass urgently so it could be passed more quickly, and because there isn't really any serious opposition to it.

@TheSkcube

10 күн бұрын

That's because establishment Democrats can please their corporate donors, and conservatives get to say get woke go broke or whatever.

There's freedom and there's giving an open adversary complete access to the hearts and minds of one's citizens. Do business with China and you do business with the CCP, whether through formal mechanisms or the owners kids getting a nice lift home in a government car.

This isn't about data sovereignty or safety, it's about US owning all the major social platforms in the world. If it were about the former, Facebook, Insta etc. would all be banned as well.

@cazman182

10 күн бұрын

Yea...digital fentanyl my ass - we have plenty of digital opium in the west.

@Wozza365

10 күн бұрын

How many of those you listed are available in China? I believe none, officially.

@wirmansyahchandrawijaya407

10 күн бұрын

did u even watch the vid ?

@FacePlant1324

10 күн бұрын

It is more about China influencing the minds of all the Americans that watch TikTok, I want them to ban it I think short form video as a whole is cancer to society and is rotting everyone brains. Especially for children it gets them hooked and uses a unpredictable reward system where you don't know if the next video is good or not so you just keep scrolling until you get your fix and repeat the process over and over again. that is same reward system as gambling.

@krombopulos_michael

10 күн бұрын

It's about national security. Social media platforms not owned by hostile governments are all allowed.

So, Netflix, Google, WhatsApp, telegram, KZread,... Most movies and most of the internet are banned in China, but banning TikTok is an insult to China?🤔

@kremigmitsahne7197

10 күн бұрын

Like Instagram, KZread, Reddit, Twitter... TikTok is another Western-run platform filled with junk content created by Western Users. How is that even comparable to Facebook, KZread, etc. having organized terrorism in China in the 2000s which killed thousands of innocent people and spread conspiracy theories against China inside China. How is that even remotely comparable? Of course, China should ban them. Any rational country would react in the same way as China did. If the USA feels threatened by ITS OWN CONTENT on TikTok, then they should not have TikTok anymore and stop crying. China doesn't depend on TikTok

@blairwich1935

10 күн бұрын

No but it is an insult to the U.S. line on "free speech" and "free market".

@bradleyf1342

10 күн бұрын

@@blairwich1935 the CCP has no freedom of speech and even less in the USA anyway not our problem

@KanLuxiang

10 күн бұрын

A CCP representative referred to the US banning TikTok as "bullying". Apparently China also bullies itself, as TikTok is also banned in the country.

@HeortirtheWoodwarden

9 күн бұрын

@@kremigmitsahne7197 Platforms shouldn't be banned based on content, and how did they "organize terrorism" in China?

Given that China has banned most ‘western’ social media never mind news channels & the like I think it’s fair to ban TikTok given the CCP controls what subjects appear on the platform.

@d.optional3381

10 күн бұрын

Yea eye for an eye is best politics

@TheSkcube

10 күн бұрын

The issue I have is that for non-US citizens, this gives the US government agencies access to my data of it is forced to sell to a US company.

@user-jo7uo8nk3c

10 күн бұрын

China don't have freedom of speech US supposedly has.. 😅

@kremigmitsahne7197

10 күн бұрын

Like Instagram, KZread, Reddit, Twitter... TikTok is another Western-run platform filled with junk content created by Western Users. How is that even comparable to Facebook, KZread, etc. having organized terrorism in China in the 2000s which killed thousands of innocent people and spread conspiracy theories against China inside China. How is that even remotely comparable? Of course, China should ban them. Any rational country would react in the same way as China did. If the USA feels threatened by ITS OWN CONTENT on TikTok, then they should not have TikTok anymore and stop crying. China doesn't depend on TikTok.

@blairwich1935

10 күн бұрын

A more solid argument would be - "Look we haven't banned any of their apps" which actually support any libertarian / liberal notion that the U.S. government argues is why their nation / system is better. This is at odds with that. This is like saying "You go low... so we'll stoop to your level too". The public is then the only loser here.

But Facebook, Google, etc. who do the same shit are totally ok & unbannable

This was disappointing coverage. Some of the points you are covering as if there are two sides are a matter of fact, not opinion. This is especially troubling when the misinformation that’s being treated as equally possible as evidence-based reality are coming from literal Christian Nationalists. Many even openly identify as such in that movement, or some other specific sect of fascism. There’s presenting objective stories by not putting more weight on one opinion than another, unless there’s a difference in the quality of those opinions. As in, one’s an expert opinion and one is just from a politician. Then, there’s both-siding issues that are verifiable facts. Part of objective journalism is to confirm what the evidence supports are the facts involved. If only one side is actually basing their stance on reality, that’s very important information that the audience deserves to know. You hide that from them, as well as depriving them of learning about the facts themselves, when you treat a controversial political topic as if both sides have equal possibility of being right when they actually do not. It only serves as a bias in favor of the side that’s being most dishonest. You are supposed to confirm what objective reality is while presenting the opinions and plans of both sides. You can even show both sides’ interpretations of reality, the “facts” as they see them. But you must then do the journalism to actually confirm what the situation really is and present that to the audience as well. I know this style of entertainment about current events is very popular, it’s very easy to just present both sides as if they are equal. That is considerably less work, and therefore less expense for such a small company. However, you are presenting yourselves as actual, objective journalism. You are supposed to be reporting on what’s happening without bias. You may not do investigative journalism, but that doesn’t mean you get to skip the research, for goodness sakes! Personally, I think it’s probably impossible for small media companies to really be unbiased in a true sense of the concept in journalism. I think it’s usually a better bet to just be very open and direct about that bias, for the indie companies. Because it is so much more expensive and time-consuming. However, it’s obviously the ideal. I have been seeing more and more of this issue. I have also noticed more and more errors on the topics that I’m coming in knowledgeable about. So, now, I have to question how many errors there may be in the stories I’m learning about first from you. I need to feel confident that the information is accurate, and that if you learn it isn’t, you will make a correction. I’ve been watching for years now, but the quality has declined significantly in that time frame. I have been getting more and more disappointed with the content being produced. When you brought on more people, I was hopeful that the issues I was noticing would start to decrease, so I wanted to give you s little time. But I have not seen improvement in those issues, unfortunately. I am going to have to really reevaluate whether I feel like I still get enough information that I feel I can trust from the channel to even watch sometimes. I have been watching all the channels every day for a few years now. I don’t know if your company cares in the slightest, I’m sure you’re still growing at the moment because of elections in the U.S. and how stressful international politics are right now. However, I really hope you care about the disservice you are doing to your audience with such subpar standards.

I think every country should force tech giants and social media companies to keep data localized in those countries with no access to that information in the country the app originates from. Every country has their security concerns about their private data.

now it is because the propalasteine

You're overcomplicating things, what really happened is that Biden completely forgot that he was initially against banning TikTok.

@BigBoss-sm9xj

10 күн бұрын

have evidence to proof?

@giantWario

10 күн бұрын

@@BigBoss-sm9xj ...I know sarcasm doesn't translate well in written text but are you really telling me that you couldn't tell this was a joke?

7:58 Commun( )cations Act 1934 - Can you give me an "i" there?

6:48 you forgot Soulja Boy!

This video may have convinced me. If it was just purely social media, whatever, not our place to ban. But the fact that the Chinese government puts its thumb on the algorithm really makes me think that this is being used for political purposes which are not in our best interests.

That 1993 law is a unironically a great idea every country should do the same. Big tech needs to be brought to heel.

They were all separate bills...

Commenting 4 algorithm

Honestly, I really hope this initiative spreads to other countries too, including my own of Canada. To say that TikTok is really screwing with youth is a metric understatement. If you compare TikTok to Shorts of Reels, it becomes quickly obvious how much the former focuses their algorithm on very negative and destructive behaviour or drama. China is performing a fantastic psyop here. And we know they know this as China have internally not only banned TikTok, but also forced Bytedance to change Doyen's algorithm to be more focused on education and responsible behaviour. So it always amuses me that China is calling foul here when they themselves won't allow TikTok and its algorithm on their soil.

Biden Beijing buster 😂good if they leave facebook makes more money without spending $100bn 😂🤑🤑🤑

Ban it

I think they’ll sell. It’s going to be the biggest IPO of the year