Impressive. Very nice. Lets see Paul Allens set-up

@InspectahReese

Жыл бұрын

I have to return some edge clamps…

@melvin.yeeticus4429

Жыл бұрын

It was me! I broke the m10 tap on the last hole, and tried to get it out with a pencil grinder!

The torque on those is whatever you think feels tight enough that it won't come loose 🤟

@kaega228

Жыл бұрын

Каждый крепёж в механизме имеет степень силы затягивания, ключ регулирует эту силу👍

@davidrockey7190

Жыл бұрын

Depends on your cuts timing it'll hold on like the old boss one set push it till it breaks then back it down a notch 👍

@davidrockey7190

Жыл бұрын

And then you have maximum productivity with the tooling that you have to work with.

:Four jaw chuck..."am I a joke too you"

I'm surprised nobody has suggested soft jaws yet. Soft jaws are clearly superior, but this is a good alternative with those serrated moveable jaws.

@billmcleangunsmith

Жыл бұрын

Beat me to it.

@kasparsjansons9220

Жыл бұрын

soft jaws is probably the worst sugestion. Soft material will deform, hard material will start moving when machined. Don't use soft jaws on serial parts LOL 🤦‍♂️.

@ascobie22

Жыл бұрын

@@kasparsjansons9220 Guess you don't know what you don't know 🤣🤣🤣

@kasparsjansons9220

Жыл бұрын

@@ascobie22 I speak because I do know, been there, done that. If you are using low speeds and feeds, for individual parts it's oke. On the other hand when it comes to high speed serial production parts...

@billmcleangunsmith

Жыл бұрын

@@kasparsjansons9220 There is only one part in this video and soft jaws WILL hold it better.

These type of vices are an amazing piece of tooling also very expensive but worth it in the long run.

A more common and affordable solution if you don't have the specialty sponsored vise you can make yourself a v block if you don't have one and put the v block opposite of your fixed jaw holds it great aswell and is more available to anyone

@printgymnast368

Жыл бұрын

Not for real production. If your doings a couple parts its ok. But this has way more contact points and it distributs the force around the part instead of just the front and back

@dakotareid1566

Жыл бұрын

@@printgymnast368same amount of contact space still 4

@printgymnast368

Жыл бұрын

@Dakota Reid it has more contact points, and they are oriented around the part instead of on the front and back. Each serration is a contact point that digs in and increases hold force compared to the flat surface of v block. This is much better. 1 You would need a big ass v block for a part that size. 2 a v block setup reduces the rigidity of the setup by a lot. 3 you have to oriente the v block carefully 4 because the part is oriented in the same spot every time the torque applied to the part is the same. This also increases repeatability 5 This is the main benefit. The one force vectors on a v block are front to back, which makes side milling challenging. This changes those vectors, so they all go towards the center on the workpeice. All those combined make for a much stronger, more accurate, and rigid setup suitable for heavy roughing in a production environment. There is nothing wrong with using a v block, but this is undeniably better in every way except the starting cost. But I imagine the cost of a broken window because of parts flying off would offset that cost very quick.

@WoosleyMachine

Жыл бұрын

@PrintGymnast368 3 jaw chuck bolted to the table, or if you're talking production you can literally cut a radius into soft jaws and it will locate exactly the same every time you load it run multiple vises. My point is most of their advice really just appears to be advertising for a sponsor and not applicable to most peoples budget or time frame

@printgymnast368

Жыл бұрын

@Woosley there's a million ways to skin a cat. To me, this system is easier and more effective than using a soft jaw that you have to do processing on. If your only gripe is it's expensive and there are other ways, then do it the way you want. But don't come here and tell me that taking down a setup to put a chuck or cutting a soft jaw is faster than unbolting a jaw and changing it out. I'd also imagine that hardened serated teeth and an integrated torque wrench in the vice are more rigid than soft aluminum jaws . Me, I'll use the nice shit that's easy to set up and doesn't require extra work. It's a way better use of time and money, imo If you want to save money in the short term by doing more work, that's fine, but I'd buy new equipment and save money in the long run.

It's Not the best way, but very good and flexible

The rest of us don’t have sponsors providing free fancy fixtures, so we make custom soft jaws.

Nice!

Probably not the best due to low contact area, but it's a reasonable compromise between security and practicality, with some flexibility thrown in.

@printgymnast368

Жыл бұрын

The serations increase contact area. And dig into the material. The only thing i think can beat this is a chuck. Which takes a lot of space

@phillhuddleston9445

Жыл бұрын

If it was a tube or hollow more contact area would be good but as a solid piece this will hold better.

@jumpman2680

Жыл бұрын

Guess you’ve never used talons before.

Awesome 👍 rock. Definitely take that into my next machining process 🤫

Wow his hands are as smooth as a baby . Must be a programmer

@badgermetal

Жыл бұрын

Mine are clean but it's from having to wear gloves at work every day.

@TerkanTyr

Жыл бұрын

He should cut himself more, bang them into things and get them banged in-between things, and generally get more often hurt and make more mistakes. That way people may end up respecting him a little more as an experienced and capable professional.

@DGH12

Жыл бұрын

@@TerkanTyr Sounds like you have a job in the human resource department.

@TerkanTyr

Жыл бұрын

@@DGH12 Well, most recently I've been assembling and welding sheet steel. But it's just a couple tons of some architect's decorative nonsense. And I take every viable opportunity to make the job easier on myself, I don't voluntarily fuck up my body for some perverted point of pride.

@assassinlexx1993

Жыл бұрын

@@TerkanTyr The blood really likes to rust everything. Like a calling card i was here.

Wow!!!

Cobra 2.0: milling phase vibes

Where do We buy the vise plates and the clamps?

Amazing 😍

You just made a verrry expensive Coleman Workmate.

A pair of soft jaws milled to the stock diameter work great and leaves little to no marks on the side of the stock.

3-jaw chuck is actually a better way, but ok... if you want to be fancy, ask DMG Mori for their EasyCenterSet, really precise and freaking cool to look at!

What torque values do you use? Or do you use torque specs of the bolt?

@kaega228

Жыл бұрын

У болта запас прочности, а сила момента это в самом механизме , вал, шатун, втулка и т.д. пригягивается с определённой силой.

PS shirt says it all 😎

Should make a fractal vice. Then I'll be impressed.

So we're going to ignore the deep marks on the side?

I would mlike a shirt like that

Geniale Konstruktion

How do yall think a fractal vise would do?

What makes this better or more cost efficient than literally just bolting down a 3 jaw chuck to your table or even a 4 jaw If it's just one piece

@printgymnast368

Жыл бұрын

You dont have to retram the vice. Work offsets dont change and this takes up a much larger size range of than any chuck can. I would also expect these add on plates to be cheaper than a or 12 or 14 inch scroll chuck . The set up would also be easier. No picking up heavy vices or chucks just unbolt the jaws change em out and touch it off. Also the jaws have steps in them to control the z height without parallels.

@WoosleyMachine

Жыл бұрын

@PrintGymnast368 only have to retram a 4 jaw 3 jaw you would not need to most people that have a mill usually have a lathe with a removable chuck use what ya got

@WoosleyMachine

Жыл бұрын

@PrintGymnast368 also chucks will definitely hold larger than that all day long your work offsets also do not change and the jaws on a chuck also have steps so

@printgymnast368

Жыл бұрын

@Woosley yeah, use what you got, but if you got money, buy good equipment. I'm guessing you're used to job shops where you have to get it done. When running hundreds or thousands of parts, you buy the good shit that is repeatable, accurate, and easy to set up. There is no world where taking a usable lathe offline to scavenge a chuck would be an effective use of time. So if you want to stay in the stone age keep using basic equipment and making your life harder. I'll spend money buying quality products that increase productivity

@WoosleyMachine

Жыл бұрын

@PrintGymnast368 for sure but from what I understand titans of cnc is like a training channel am I wrong? How many people start off with tons of money to throw at very specific tooling. Also if someone has tons of money from Machining do you think they're watching titans?

How do you calcuate how much torcue you ned to clamp the material??

A Fractal vice might be cheaper, not sure.

Why are you using snapon?

quick question, I see in most of your videos massive ammounts of material is being removed for seemingly no reason, is most of the video you show of tool testing or for visual appeal? it is my understanding that for any job using the smallest piece of material possible while still allowing tolerance is most preferable.

I want to see a newly made fractal vise

@themonkeyproject

Жыл бұрын

Norgren Adaptix. Not exactly the same, but same end result.

How much does that vise cost?

Круто.

That dang snap-on impact with a chrome husky socket cmon guys you know more about metal than that

Just slap a chuck on there

I don't know, you tell me if this is the best way to hold round stock, you're the freaking expert not me

Почему не использовать 3-4 кулачковый патрон? Это же проще и удобней, чем настраивать тиски?

Четерыхкулаковый патрон такой: я что для тебя шутка какая то?

3 jaw chuck

Naaaa, you need to get or make a fractal vice.

It's the best way to hold it until you can get an fcs system underneath it. Otherwise you're wasting time lol

The best way to hold it is with you hands

Столько много потерял я.

How the fuq are you gonna lock in a piece of aluminum like that and NOT show us what youre cutting!?

Snap on 3/8 impact for the win

A chuck would be faster and save you 3k

0.01 = 10 micron 0.001 = 1 micron 0.0001 = ? 😂😂😂 For Grinding only

@derkman127

Жыл бұрын

.0001 inch😂

@fredericbellavance1526

Жыл бұрын

0.0001 = 2.54 microns...

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