Is Jade Hard Enough to Machine Metal?

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Jade has been used for various uses for thousands of years. From Jewelry to tools, but is is hard enough to machine metal?
#Machining #Machinist #Engineering

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  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan536426 күн бұрын

    Anything crystalline that isn't a monocrystal will shake itself apart when attempting to cut anything hard using typical feed speeds for standard bits. You would likely be able to go much further with the jade endmill by running it 1/10th as fast.

  • @Splayn

    @Splayn

    22 күн бұрын

    this

  • @Scott_C

    @Scott_C

    22 күн бұрын

    Agreed! It feels like the Operator didn't do any post cut analysis of the plastic and wood then went into the aluminum at "full speed" almost as if the Opp was trying to break it.

  • @teardowndan5364

    @teardowndan5364

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Scott_C To be fair, breaking them was an implied goal and likely inevitable even if they slowed down to completely impractical speeds.

  • @garrisoncase

    @garrisoncase

    22 күн бұрын

    @@teardowndan5364impractical!? What if I’m trying to machine my way out of some sort of Jade prison? Now what’s impractical?

  • @machinedragon

    @machinedragon

    22 күн бұрын

    Hear me out. It's not how fast the job gets done. If the tool kept cutting. Steel razors are still inferior to obsidian glass knives in terms of edges and sharpness but obviously obsidian as a crystalline slush formed in a natural volcanic pyroclastic event would result in random cracks . I guess what I'm saying don't give up on this horse. A synthetic jade run at appropriate speed with the right cutting lubricant and monitoring the piezoelectric effect to detect if the crystal is near its fracture limit and possibly possibly. Mill out incredibly accurate stone and ceramic parts using a synthetic jade bit . But requires a system to monitor the temperature and electrical conductivity of the crystal as a signal for fatigue. Possibly even a custom chuck holder thats refrigerated because the nature of that crystal like quartzes is that it dosent make clean cleavage peices it shatters out into deathshards of chaos .. I bet a quartz bit would behave the same way also.

  • @idhdjuhdjhdh3817
    @idhdjuhdjhdh381726 күн бұрын

    I love the way you all made a "boring" video about endmill geometry and functionality into something much more entertaining. Well done!

  • @snacpop

    @snacpop

    26 күн бұрын

    To be fair it was still pretty boring. We’ve all seen endmills and the relief on them.

  • @bobbytables4305

    @bobbytables4305

    23 күн бұрын

    nope it is a boring video...

  • @triple7988

    @triple7988

    23 күн бұрын

    I've learned more about endmills in this one video than I ever did in school

  • @patrickday4206

    @patrickday4206

    22 күн бұрын

    I like holes should be a good video

  • @leovodica9975

    @leovodica9975

    20 күн бұрын

    I skipped like 1 minute 3 times and I saw still the same video and heared the same words :D Six flutes, notchnes, K lines, becouse of 6 flutes we need K lines or wathever etc etc... this could be a reel.

  • @melgross
    @melgross26 күн бұрын

    I work with jade. I’ve machined it but never tried to cut with it. It’s pretty strong due to the crystal structure and is 7 on the Mohs hardness scale, so it’s hard. But the sample used here isn’t the best. You need to try with a piece that doesn’t have that multicolored structure. That’s not as solid as you would want. It would work a “little” better with a less pretty sample that’s just pure green. Rounded flute tips would also work much better. I would also recommend a shorter, much stubbier bit.

  • @madmurdoch2000

    @madmurdoch2000

    26 күн бұрын

    i understand that jade is hard but isnt it also very rigid with no flex in the material? i guess what i'm trying to say it that jade is hard but to brittle to do this type of work isnt it?

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    26 күн бұрын

    @@madmurdoch2000 jade has traditionally been used for hammers. It has what’s called a twinned crystal structure which makes it very tough. Sure, I wouldn’t try to use it to make a mill bit with, but it’s also used for knives and such. Milling metals is a very unusual use though. Last time he tried glass. That didn’t work at all.

  • @kylewellman402

    @kylewellman402

    25 күн бұрын

    I feel like a rounded tip would break easier unless no plunging or milling with the tip was done. Even HSS/carbide tools that are ball nose break/dull more easily due to the whole "essentially 0 RPM at the very center thats trying to cut". That being said, i would like to see your example though of good pure jade as opposed to the marbling like impurities. Ever since i learned i can make my own rubies in my garage, its been on my project list to build a hydraulic chamber to try and make a ruby lathe insert tool. I feel like that would have a greater chance at surviving just given what direction the forces would be in. Seeing that jade end mill break in half tells me it really just couldn't take the flexing from that cut. I think he could have gave it more of a fighting chance to actually cut. He basically stacked everything against it by taking what looks like at least a 15 to 20 thou depth of cut and doing climb milling. At least see if it would survive like a 5 thou DOC while convential milling

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    25 күн бұрын

    @@kylewellman402 rounded tips soften the initial jump in cutting force the edge sees. That’s different from a ball mill, which isn’t what I meant. I’m talking about maybe a 0.05” radius at the flute tip. I find that whether HSS or carbide, those last longer. But also, you’re right about the depth of cut. I was going to mention that before, but didn’t. I don’t know what rpm a jade cutter could withstand, but the higher, the better. I don’t see that he tried to determine what the cutter could do. He just took some moderate average setting and went with it.

  • @kylewellman402

    @kylewellman402

    25 күн бұрын

    @@melgross oh gotcha. Like similar to the nose radius on an insert bit as opposed to a sharp nose. Hopefully I'm thinking if that right now. Maybe they should try it again and go to brass first instead of aluminum too. Aluminum is so gummy to cut if you dont have a proper coating meant for aluminum. I seen where when they were inspecting the end mill after it broke there was aluminum imbedded along basically every cutting surface. Im sure these guys at Titan are aware of that. Maybe that is why they chose aluminum for the torture of it 🤔

  • @Shoorit
    @Shoorit26 күн бұрын

    Please try making one out of carbide. I’ve got a feeling it will work great.

  • @fastmover45

    @fastmover45

    26 күн бұрын

    Make one out of Boron Nitride :)

  • @JohnFrazier007

    @JohnFrazier007

    25 күн бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @athmaid

    @athmaid

    23 күн бұрын

    Silicon carbide would be interesting

  • @user-kg1ic3ol1e

    @user-kg1ic3ol1e

    19 күн бұрын

    Titanium nitrided high speed steel? may be some promise there

  • @Chrisg93
    @Chrisg9326 күн бұрын

    Use an old Nokia as the end mill

  • @lidltraut8258

    @lidltraut8258

    21 күн бұрын

    Careful now, dont want to mill hole through reality

  • @The_Legend47

    @The_Legend47

    9 күн бұрын

    LOL

  • @akaHarvesteR

    @akaHarvesteR

    8 күн бұрын

    That could never work. How would you grind any flutes in it to begin with?

  • @solowingpixy8297

    @solowingpixy8297

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@akaHarvesteRIt is the flute lmao

  • @str44thond71

    @str44thond71

    8 сағат бұрын

    That would cut the fabric of reality

  • @bubbasplants189
    @bubbasplants18926 күн бұрын

    Don't even care if it works, that thing looks sick! Like a poisonous endmill.

  • @anonymouspersonthefake

    @anonymouspersonthefake

    21 күн бұрын

    +10 poison damage

  • @drecknathmagladery9118

    @drecknathmagladery9118

    19 күн бұрын

    it technically is poisonous. jade is a type of asbestos.

  • @ahmadshaabanabu-yousseff911
    @ahmadshaabanabu-yousseff91126 күн бұрын

    It's all about vibration and tool's resonance frequency , and giving the tool enough time to dampen the vibration, For example glass has very low natural frequency for small stuff between 200-500 Hz Steel has much higher frequency in the KHz range for the same size . Increasing number of flutes decreases overall fluctuation in vibration , but since the flutes are thinner the natural frequency decreases making it more brittle, . For example a glass sheets crack easily a glass cube will not crack easily because it has more girth and more volume to dissipate energy To increase the probability of success using glass or jade feed speed must be ultra slow and maybe make the flute channels narrower to allow for more girth to withstand vibrations also increasing fluting angles will help make forces and vibrations more axially aligned (radial vibrations break tools ) . Tips High helix angles High number of flutes Slow feed rate Narrow channels Maybe bulkier or conical tools

  • @realJohnLab
    @realJohnLab26 күн бұрын

    The amount of joy Barry gets from destroying things; warms the cockles of my heart.. even tickles the sub cockles.

  • @marcusrauch4223

    @marcusrauch4223

    26 күн бұрын

    The what?

  • @waaa141995

    @waaa141995

    26 күн бұрын

    @@marcusrauch4223 hes talking about his nuts

  • @shifty1016

    @shifty1016

    26 күн бұрын

    While handicapped people make handicapped faces.

  • @seancollins9745

    @seancollins9745

    26 күн бұрын

    I await the pre cockles

  • @12th.jahlil

    @12th.jahlil

    22 күн бұрын

    I beg your pardon?

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy6527 күн бұрын

    Now make one out of a single large quartz crystal.

  • @larrymashburn7789

    @larrymashburn7789

    26 күн бұрын

    Then sapphire, then diamond.

  • @stasi0238

    @stasi0238

    23 күн бұрын

    With crystalline Al2O3

  • @jimsonjohnson3761

    @jimsonjohnson3761

    22 күн бұрын

    All of which are very brittle. That's why we don't use quartz in so many places

  • @aidenwallin3523

    @aidenwallin3523

    22 күн бұрын

    @@stasi0238Sapphire is Al2 O3. Corundum.

  • @GoldenBoy-et6of

    @GoldenBoy-et6of

    22 күн бұрын

    Jade is the most durable of all minerals , its not the hardest but it's the least brittle of all gemstones , quartz is hard but incredibly brittle and will shatter just as easily as glass while jade can be hit with a hammer as hard as you can many times before it will finally split

  • @NVMDSTEvil
    @NVMDSTEvil26 күн бұрын

    very low quality jade, and why cutting from the side and so deep like that? Could at least have given it a fighting chance ..

  • @viggo_wiberg

    @viggo_wiberg

    2 күн бұрын

    Your right. Now let’s see you do it properly…

  • @NVMDSTEvil

    @NVMDSTEvil

    2 күн бұрын

    @@viggo_wiberg would love to have the equipment to do it

  • @jamesfair9751

    @jamesfair9751

    Күн бұрын

    Cause side cutting is a huge thing that endmills are made to do. If all you need is a plunge cut you could mostly get by with drill bits if you just need to drill a hole !!!

  • @NVMDSTEvil

    @NVMDSTEvil

    Күн бұрын

    @@jamesfair9751 not side cutting like that.

  • @Wbfuhn
    @Wbfuhn26 күн бұрын

    Materials I'd like to see turned into tools. Obsidian, rock, petrified wood (you can petrify by soaking in water for several months) and gems such as Sapphire, Emerald, Topaz, Ruby and Amethyst.

  • @coreytaylor5386

    @coreytaylor5386

    26 күн бұрын

    theres also a lot of natural petrified wood you can get online thats fully harded into rock

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    26 күн бұрын

    Petrified wood isn’t just soaked. You just get soaked wood. It’s when the wood is replaced by minerals over long time. You can force that process, but it’s not the same thing.

  • @GregsStoneYard

    @GregsStoneYard

    26 күн бұрын

    @@melgross Months, millions of years, what's the difference? 😀I'm currently cutting a 42" diameter 60" long petrified wood log into slabs... have all the slabs cut, doing the polishing now. The petrified wood is pretty much pure quartz. It's the hardest stuff I've cut and is brutal on my diamond tools.

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    26 күн бұрын

    @@GregsStoneYard because it takes a long time for mineralization to take place. We worked on trying to make a petrified wood using some modern techniques, but it doesn’t produce a compactified deposit. It needs to happen very slowly. Even though we used dissolved minerals, and heat and pressure, it just doesn’t produce actual rock but a more crumbly substance. The real thing is a very nice material, but it’s true, it’s brutal on tooling. It’s very tough and breaks the diamond right off the blades.

  • @felderup

    @felderup

    26 күн бұрын

    @@melgross vac chamber cycling then high temp baking and another few vac cycles perhaps would speed it up?

  • @PaulWalker-zk2dd
    @PaulWalker-zk2dd26 күн бұрын

    Hardness of the material is important, but not the only important measure. Tensile strength and notch sensitivity are also important. I love your videos and learn a lot.

  • @chrishayes5755
    @chrishayes575526 күн бұрын

    seems like a pretty aggressive cut into that aluminum. looks like it could have made it with less load on the end mill.

  • @toshinakae6397

    @toshinakae6397

    26 күн бұрын

    wasnt super aggressive, look at the size of those chips, basically powder! though the tool was getting dull too so its hard to tell. But looks like the depth of cut is not even an 1/8th of the diameter deep. Might perform better with different speeds/feeds, but that cut into aluminum was pretty mild.

  • @enzochoi923

    @enzochoi923

    22 күн бұрын

    Looked like it was dulling too fast. I think they could have made it 3-4x farther with the correct speeds and feeds, but that's still not much

  • @usb6000

    @usb6000

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@toshinakae6397 I think he meant by aggressive meaning it really needed to be slow The feed was too high in my opinion as well.

  • @dareelistwhoreala

    @dareelistwhoreala

    11 күн бұрын

    At the end of the day tho... it's just not a viable or effective alternative.

  • @damianfitzpatrick3465
    @damianfitzpatrick346526 күн бұрын

    A future where Kennametal just sells you a CNC program for their endmills

  • @jmowreader9555

    @jmowreader9555

    26 күн бұрын

    That's more like a trip to the past. In the old days when people set type for printing by hand, type was made out of lead. Since lead is soft it wears out pretty quickly, so a lot of printers just bought molds - they were called matrices - and cast the type they needed for every job.

  • @therealchayd

    @therealchayd

    21 күн бұрын

    @@jmowreader9555 Then along came LinoType...

  • @markalvarez1827
    @markalvarez182726 күн бұрын

    It's crazy how much you know about endmills 😂 Great video, love listening to people who know what they are talking about.

  • @jimsonjohnson3761
    @jimsonjohnson376122 күн бұрын

    Hardness doest = durable. Otherwise we'd use diamonds and quartz for a lot more. And before you comment, no diamonds really aren't that rare.

  • @bobbytables4305
    @bobbytables430523 күн бұрын

    In case you missed it... They created a 6 flute jade endmil and put a kayland on it with a notch...

  • @KnowArt
    @KnowArt22 күн бұрын

    would love to see more optimizations for crystal endmills. I imagine wider, shorter, more flutes, less sharp angles, etc

  • @EPEPEPEP05

    @EPEPEPEP05

    19 күн бұрын

    i didnt expect to meet you here! well, i did! but still in shock!

  • @CaptainCarrotzz
    @CaptainCarrotzz20 күн бұрын

    Appreciate you running through the CAD at the beginning. A lot of pop engineering channels skip over that stuff, but that's what I'm interested in seeing. Also, Barry is such a card. Love the energy he brings😂

  • @ConcreteBombDeep
    @ConcreteBombDeep22 күн бұрын

    If you haven't done it yet you need to make a endmill out of sapphire crystal. Lab produced sapphire is already the perfect shape and being just under diamond in hardness should make it interesting.

  • @jaredkennedy6576
    @jaredkennedy657623 күн бұрын

    That was pretty wild. It's also good that this is now a known tech, there might be some material in the future that requires a jade cutting edge.

  • @deths1679

    @deths1679

    22 күн бұрын

    I have been making natural sharpening stones and I think it is pretty amazing what can be done with stone tools once you learn the properties and geometry to mitigate the weaknesses of stone. I keep getting surprised with how difficult it can be to work with hard stone, even with modern tools.

  • @KinoTechUSA69
    @KinoTechUSA6926 күн бұрын

    I love how you guys are asking the serious questions 😂 👍

  • @legochamp1
    @legochamp126 күн бұрын

    i would buy this as a dekor for my desk! love it

  • @Tezza120
    @Tezza12026 күн бұрын

    Try ruby or sapphire next. The man made ones with no flaws. I think they call them a boule. At least they have a hardness close to carbide and a uniform crystal should give it more toughness

  • @huseyinaynaci1752
    @huseyinaynaci175226 күн бұрын

    Guys, you have to use coolant when you milling alluminium material 🥲Thus, you can extend the life of the cutting edges by preventing sticking chips from being deposited edges of the endmill.

  • @animus3d663
    @animus3d66326 күн бұрын

    I wonder what “part materials” could cut. For instance, maybe inconel could cut aluminum

  • @max_eley
    @max_eley26 күн бұрын

    One of the best video ideas I have ever seen, awesome!

  • @ggeorges5135
    @ggeorges513526 күн бұрын

    these grinding videos are sick

  • @adamhayes2528
    @adamhayes252826 күн бұрын

    What an interestingly cool video!! Nice one Chris and Nate!

  • @shaniegust1225
    @shaniegust122526 күн бұрын

    Y’all crazy over there! Nice video. Everyone loves Chris 💪🔥

  • @CraigHollabaugh
    @CraigHollabaugh26 күн бұрын

    That was cool seeing the operations needed. Thanks

  • @Sara-TOC
    @Sara-TOC26 күн бұрын

    Third time is a charm!! You’re getting closer, Chris!!! I can’t wait to see what you come up with next. 😁

  • @nathanbieri7060
    @nathanbieri706026 күн бұрын

    Chris always getting creative with his grinds!

  • @cncwoodarts
    @cncwoodarts26 күн бұрын

    I have an idea! 1) Make a hybrid endmill from tungsten carbide or something like inconel 2) cut flute sections from a hard crystal like Mossanite. Or synthetic sapphire. 3) braze flute sections into the metal core, then finish cut the whole mill on the grinder. Tough, shock resilient core with super hard edges…use it any non-ferrous. Material with coolant…it will last!!!

  • @cncwoodarts

    @cncwoodarts

    26 күн бұрын

    I bet it lasts longer than your Kore 5 in aluminum if the brazing is strong enough!

  • @TheRcfighterpilot
    @TheRcfighterpilot26 күн бұрын

    NGL these would be neat gifts for machinists!

  • @alt5494
    @alt549426 күн бұрын

    A super fine grit mill driven finishing stone would be interesting for the leftover piece. If a h13 steel core was added for support could actually be a fine tool.

  • @marcus_w0
    @marcus_w025 күн бұрын

    I really was rooting for that little endmill! Keep on going trying materials! Thumbs up!

  • @classtilton871
    @classtilton87120 күн бұрын

    I carve pounamu, its a type of jade only found here in new zealand. I was actually surprised how well this held up! Great video!

  • @Handles_AreStupid
    @Handles_AreStupid21 күн бұрын

    "Because it is a natural mineral, it will have a mohs hardness of 6 to 7" Diamond and ruby are natural minerals that are mohs 10 and 9 respectively. A "natural mineral" doesnt have a hard and fast rule like that...

  • @shawnbonning8848
    @shawnbonning884825 күн бұрын

    You should grind the od's from shank to end of tool, your wheel will stay sharper longer. Lower your plunge percentage so it doesn't jam into the tool.

  • @atruceforbruce5388
    @atruceforbruce538821 күн бұрын

    Just got to do a jade tool and add some diamond dust on the cutting edges. You got this.

  • @jaredlepore9
    @jaredlepore926 күн бұрын

    Does Machinery's Handbook have suggested feeds and speeds for jade endmills?

  • @michaelpiper8198
    @michaelpiper819820 күн бұрын

    this is nice for some labs I imagine, in the case of needing different bits that won't shed particulates that would be reactive in nature of whatever goal they are attempting to achieve. ie. metal shedding from a bit and bonding with processing materials before intended reaction can take place.

  • @guilavo4131
    @guilavo413126 күн бұрын

    This is just a random thought, but if you tried to do conventional milling instead of climb milling. I think it might have survived the aluminum since the force on the tool while climb cutting are a lot higher.

  • @rcnewman51.
    @rcnewman51.22 күн бұрын

    That shop is gorgeous!

  • @growbikebuild3032
    @growbikebuild303226 күн бұрын

    Try Ruby ranks 9 on the Mohs hardness scale

  • @sportswolf1
    @sportswolf126 күн бұрын

    I should send you my wife's roast beef. lol

  • @MF175mp

    @MF175mp

    26 күн бұрын

    Would make a good end mill?

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline

    @BrilliantDesignOnline

    26 күн бұрын

    @@MF175mp Toughest substance known to man 🙂

  • @robertlee8400
    @robertlee840026 күн бұрын

    One of the greatest machines ever made a CNC machine too bad you can find a diamond that big to do that to . My dad was a machinist & he knew all the secrets on how to run a CNC machine beyond its full potential , even the people who made the CNC machine he ran at that time couldn’t believe how he did it & they asked him to show them how he did it , seriously , my dad was a mathematical genius when it came down to CNC machines I watched him first hand do his magic with one . All the things he created out of different metals was nuts . My dad ran CNC machines for well over 40 years with G.E. , Meyer Tool , Fan Egan , & other company’s in Cincinnati , Ohio .

  • @joshuahuman1
    @joshuahuman126 күн бұрын

    you should try making one out of a synthetic ruby laser rod

  • @Calthecool

    @Calthecool

    21 күн бұрын

    I second this

  • @NOBLEArbiter
    @NOBLEArbiter26 күн бұрын

    The most beautiful endmill

  • @_GOD_HAND_
    @_GOD_HAND_26 күн бұрын

    Obviously when making a tool it's not just hardness that counts. There are many other material properties that need to be considered like tensile strength, compressive strength, elastic modulus, etc. These tests on various minerals are pointless, but I guess it's good content for social media.

  • @minimal_ltd
    @minimal_ltd26 күн бұрын

    I would buy one to put on my desk

  • @4pThorpy
    @4pThorpy20 күн бұрын

    The amount of knowledge behind this for essentially brand new technology is impressive, there's 3d modelling, obviously some proprietary gcode, feed speeds, material knowledge, simulations (and the tool knowledge about endmills). I hope there's a better title than "machinist" for this job.

  • @Bestruction
    @Bestruction26 күн бұрын

    I’ll see you guys at the Kennametal roadshow! I’m a Kennametal applications engineer, and I’m working the event

  • @thespacedude8420
    @thespacedude842022 күн бұрын

    Do an endmill of hardened polyester next! I work with polyester in my restoration projects and I'd really love to see how it'd hold up as an endmill. Although I imagine it will behave like quite a brittle material in a high-torque high-speed operation.

  • @thepain321
    @thepain32119 күн бұрын

    Would like to see hard minerals optimized. Lab ruby, sapphire. Machine speed, feed rate, depth of cut, twist on the cutting edge. Do a core bit of mineral, fed with grit too.

  • @freddyfingerz9854
    @freddyfingerz985417 күн бұрын

    Try with a large ruby. Conundrum is even harder. If your lucky u can still find large dirty 1 piece crystals around natural or make one with a induction setup and aluminum oxide

  • @dbdbdbqpqpqpqp
    @dbdbdbqpqpqpqp21 күн бұрын

    I’m curious what the flute rake is vs the k land rake. I work in cutting tool manufacturing and just found your channel, cool stuff!

  • @bardesteck
    @bardesteck7 күн бұрын

    Nice video .. how did you determine the cutting conditions for a tool not in the market without the research behind it? What was the rpm or fz used in this experiment? for machinist it would have been interesting seen this values on screen .. thank you, it was entertaining seen how you took the time to make the endmill

  • @SPUPRR
    @SPUPRR18 күн бұрын

    I would love to buy a couple of those Endmills as a conversation piece. They are Beautiful.

  • @kumaaddi5139
    @kumaaddi513918 күн бұрын

    The outer harmonic forces are a tricky dilemma you have to consider when making bits, that's the majority of why these break. Higher density and less space between the molecules are going to be the money when it comes to any type of drill bit. The jade could be a decant bit, just not by itself as a material, though I've never worked with jade. I'd guess if you could combine it somehow with another material it could be viable on certain aluminum's. Neat venture into jade tooling guys thanks!

  • @user-yl3en6qo5u
    @user-yl3en6qo5u26 күн бұрын

    You make great videos, it would be very interesting if you showed the method used to achieve a very tight tolerance on the first try such as a G6 on an internal diameter of 20mm for example, with a tool which has just been gauged and which It doesn't have any proofreaders yet.

  • @thehackofalltrades1630
    @thehackofalltrades163020 күн бұрын

    Excellent Voice, demonstrations, visualization and explanations - You do repeat facts/things over multiple times which makes this video a bit long - I am intrigued by the subject/ thumbnail with this is trimmed a bit it would be perfect - Great video and if you need to do it to make it longer for monetization reasons then no biggy -> u do what you gotta do - Cheers

  • @anthonyfigueroa2395
    @anthonyfigueroa239522 күн бұрын

    If you slow down the piece going into the drill bit but keep the bit speed up, I bet it will cut n not break also a shorter jade piece n it will work.

  • @thanumgaming
    @thanumgaming26 күн бұрын

    Looks like a work of art!

  • @jamiefowler2329
    @jamiefowler232922 күн бұрын

    Man when he said j made me feel like I was watching how to make a joint tutorial 😂

  • @calvinchabot2528
    @calvinchabot252826 күн бұрын

    Would love to see you guys do one out of sapphire, and one out of aluminum oxynitride 👍

  • @phillipmillay8645
    @phillipmillay864526 күн бұрын

    Thanks for showing Walter Grinder programming, I am just starting programming ours for our regrind shop on the same Grinders. We have trouble getting the K land adjusted in correctly. How are you doing the K land? Our process was programmed to K Land with a differ wheel than the gashing wheel, so it makes it hard to adjust them both. I’m am thinking about changing it to rough and finish the path, dedicating a rough gashing wheel and a finish gashing wheel. I think that if the same wheel does the gash and the L land on the point angle edge it will be easier for the team to control. It will just be a matter of wheel wear then. Let me know your thoughts on this.

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo23 күн бұрын

    I think you should have mentioned the Startec tools twice as often... I have no idea what they currently cost but you could get a sapphire alloy phone screen blank that hasn't been sliced up yet and have a go with it. They come in about 3"9"10" but might be veeeery pricey.

  • @tristenagar4360
    @tristenagar436023 күн бұрын

    i would love to have this piece, it looks so cool and i love the basic pieces of jade that i have. if you see this and are ever thinking of parting with it i would like a shot at it. You atleast have a subscriber from me lol, keep up the content

  • @avilhelm1697
    @avilhelm169722 күн бұрын

    Would be cool if you made a CNC-version of an ancient Egyptian tube drill. They used those for hours and days to cut holes into hard rocks like granite. I bet you could cut down the work time a lot, and maybe use your expertise to add some bells and whistles to it too.

  • @smellslikeupdog80
    @smellslikeupdog8026 күн бұрын

    jessie wouldnta broke it f'sho. this is definitely machining adjacent entertainment; and i'm here for it.

  • @schmurisworld
    @schmurisworld10 күн бұрын

    You should sell some of them it looks awesome as decorations

  • @Netsuko
    @Netsuko19 күн бұрын

    I didn't understand a single term used here but I liked the green thingy!

  • @Sven_Odinson_VT
    @Sven_Odinson_VT26 күн бұрын

    "Congratulations, you made a tousand dolar jigsaw". Barry is such a Legend 😂😂😂

  • @phillhuddleston9445
    @phillhuddleston944526 күн бұрын

    An interesting material to try would be basalt, it is from my understanding basically a manufactured rock like material that they actually make rebar out of, it's flexible like steel rebar but will not take a permanent bend like steel and has good tensile strength. With it's relative hardness and flexibility it might work on aluminum at least longer than jade and glass.

  • @BeetleBuns

    @BeetleBuns

    22 күн бұрын

    basalt is a volcanic rock, not man-made.

  • @phillhuddleston9445

    @phillhuddleston9445

    22 күн бұрын

    @@BeetleBuns They manufacture products made using basalt, not sure how they do it though but yes it is a naturally occurring rock so I did misspeak.

  • @BeetleBuns

    @BeetleBuns

    22 күн бұрын

    @@phillhuddleston9445 ohhhhh got it, thought you were saying the rock itself was man made lol

  • @zacwebb5738
    @zacwebb573826 күн бұрын

    Nephrite jade has a fibrous grain structure, contributing to its extreme toughness. I had hopes for the alum cut, but it is still a natural stone material. 😅

  • @shlamimk4664
    @shlamimk466422 күн бұрын

    If you want to make a habit of cutting jade, just make sure to take all respiratory precautions. The dust from jade is as bad as asbestos, apparently. Great glimpses into your world though! I've just started work delivering alloys to fabrication workshops, so I'm getting curious about this sort of thing.

  • @St0RM33
    @St0RM3326 күн бұрын

    Next try Aluminium oxynitride and Sapphire ..if you can find something to grind it with

  • @danielm.3383

    @danielm.3383

    26 күн бұрын

    Diamond to grind it?

  • @johnpaton4246
    @johnpaton424622 күн бұрын

    I also have a hardness scale, Moh aint the only one

  • @RetroGamerr1991
    @RetroGamerr199122 күн бұрын

    Imagine archaeologists finding this thing in 3000 years and being absolutely stumped not only how we managed to make a perfectly symmetrical bit but WHY someone made it out of Jade.

  • @peacefulscrimp5183
    @peacefulscrimp518322 күн бұрын

    You should have done an old school star trek enterprise glamour camera pass of that bit once it was finished 😳 That thing was a work of art 😔 RIP .

  • @steffen8446
    @steffen844626 күн бұрын

    what chair is this at 7:51?^^

  • @paulmilligan1808
    @paulmilligan180826 күн бұрын

    Hi guys I saw this video and I think I might be able to make this endmill run in my new line of tool holders it would be interesting to try this endmill because the thing that caused the failure is the standard concentricity that you get in an ER collet holder. I think that the failure was due to being off in runout and the harmonics are off because of this. even if this endmill is off by .0002" or more it would probably fail.

  • @mikefabbi5127
    @mikefabbi512721 күн бұрын

    Sweet! Another video to answer a question I never asked. All hail the algorithm.

  • @Abyssal313
    @Abyssal31324 күн бұрын

    Would gem-quality or lab-created stones work better since they have fewer flaws? Something like lab created sapphire rods?

  • @chettiarsirusraj9501
    @chettiarsirusraj950126 күн бұрын

    You tried to cut solid piece of metal with a Jade stone endmill it was gonna break but maybe concrete or bricks may just cut fine instead since they are just right in-between the line of solid as steel but softish like wood & plastic. You basically gave a strong enough material like Block of aluminum or any similar metal for the Jade endmill to cut-rub and vibrate like crazy on letting all the vibration from metal cutting to go right through the Jade endmill and crack it through inside out. Maybe if you make another Jade endmill drill a hole in the center of the cylinder through it's length drill it's center out and add a metal pin or long screw through the middle of the Jade endmill to dampen all the vibration going through it and increase it's sheer strength of the overall jade endmill. This method of putting a metal pin or screw through the center of a soft material dealing with high torque or high sheer strength loads also works for 3d Printed FDM & Resin printed parts especially for 3D printed tyre wheels that deal with high torque output of electric motors right into tyres which without a metal pin/screw will just sheer the center of the printed wheel making the whole wheel useless.

  • @jackflash6377
    @jackflash637726 күн бұрын

    Years ago (40+) I was walking through the British Museum of Natural History and there was a big rock in the walk way. I slapped it with the palm of my hand because it was very smooth, it made a nice sound. Turns out it was a huge piece of Jade. Multiple tons piece of Jade.

  • @globuseric8998
    @globuseric899818 күн бұрын

    This just made my day👍

  • @jessicacon
    @jessicacon22 күн бұрын

    *BRUH* the noise the glass drill bit made when it died as it touched the metal made it *1000X FUCKING FUNNIER XD*

  • @chrisstott2775
    @chrisstott277526 күн бұрын

    Greenstone was a prized and valuable resource for the Maori as adze heads (and nasty weapons) used to carve canoes and hew timber. Very tough but very time consuming to shape and sharpen.

  • @chrisstott2775

    @chrisstott2775

    26 күн бұрын

    Just to add, greenstone is a type of jade

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline26 күн бұрын

    The structural integrity of the core is just not there; if it was a composite of something to make the overall blank less frangible, it seems the hardness is there. How about a steel rod with the end bored or splined out with a Jade cylinder inserted/bonded into it then ground; steel structural rigidity, capturing the hardness and geometry of the jade.

  • @DukieBrain
    @DukieBrain22 күн бұрын

    This is incredible. Gashing is my new favorite word

  • @andrewl9203
    @andrewl920326 күн бұрын

    I'd like to see you make some inserts.

  • @JathTech
    @JathTech22 күн бұрын

    Jade, the Nephrite variety, is the same mineral as asbestos. Nephrite, releases asbestos fibers into the air when carved. Inhaling these fibers can lead to asbestosis, lung cancer, and mesothelioma. Jade workers have an increased risk of pulmonary fibrosis, respiratory tract cancers, and digestive-tract cancers. I'm hoping the mineral you used is Jadeite, which has the Mohs hardness level you mentioned. Be safe out there everyone.

  • @MrBenstero
    @MrBenstero19 күн бұрын

    Add coolant once you get into harder metals. Yes feed speed needs to come down too, but with how fast the tool heated and aluminum got stuck to it. If you used coolant I bet it would've cut longer.

  • @deths1679
    @deths167922 күн бұрын

    I have been making natural sharpening stones and experimenting with different hard stones. I think stone works best for cutting with wide angles for the cutting edge and a lot of mass behind that edge to prevent shearing of the stone. So maybe a single edge end mill with 90 degree cutting edge and very shallow flute might work alright. Maybe in Texas Chert, it is very hard and very tough, it is the hardest stone I’ve worked with and even diamond grinding is not easy for me with it.

  • @deths1679

    @deths1679

    22 күн бұрын

    Im surprised the six flute got as far as it did. A stone endmill might also need to be a lot shorter with so much torque generation.

  • @kindle2730
    @kindle273026 күн бұрын

    Can I have it as a souvenir? That is the sickest end mill ever

  • @bubbalawrence1
    @bubbalawrence17 күн бұрын

    Y’all should add a brass block before milling the aluminum

  • @jamiehammond47
    @jamiehammond4719 күн бұрын

    It would have been interesting to see if using coolant while machining the aluminum..( like you normally would ).. would have made a difference... you can see the cutter getting clogged up by that sticky metal, which breaks carbide and HSS endmills when you dont use coolant.. so I'm not surprised it broke the Jade as well.

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