Thanks for showing this. I was thinking about buying one but was hesitant to do so. Does it export in 1 to 1 scale?

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

It does, from what I can tell.

Pretty cool watching the doughnuts getting made. The palm rest that was shown in the video would be totally usable for me to get the geometry and shape accurate enough. Looking forward to how the other parts turn out, really excited to get a LHS for space simming!

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

More time is slated for tomorrow to run scans, assuming we have power once the storm passes through. We should, but always have to be careful :) I just want to avoid spraying them as that spray gets pricey quickly lol. There are some prints to help with tracking that I will be running tonight too.

@GrubbyZebra

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers so does that mean follow-up videos? Sweet!

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

indeed!

Really fun guy, I enjoyed watching the whole video :)

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

For better tracking use crumbled blue tape or print small scanning target helpers. I printed little pyramids how are hollow. Around 10x10mm. Works like a charm.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

There are some printed parts for the turntable with lots of geometric target stuff :)

A good thing to note is the fact that you don't need Bluetooth in your computer to use the dual-axis turntable, but rather the Scanner unit itself includes a Bluetooth bridge.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

OH! I had no clue! It connected to my PC directly!

Do you think this would work for scanning peoples feet to make custom shoes? I want to 3d print shoe lasts and then build the shoe by hand around the last. The scanner would have to rotate around the persons foot unless I could get a giant turntable (but still it would probably be impossible for the person to be truly still).

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

With a good enough scanner, sure. You would need to suspend the foot to get a good idea, but dealing with a weight on the arch and a suspended foot has always been the challenge.

Thank you, to scan jewelry medals cross what would you advise me as models of 3D scanner

@3DMusketeers

5 ай бұрын

depends on the detail needed and budget you have. What are you working with?

Just came across this video while searching for tips to up my scanning game and I like your review. You're honest and all of the points you made match the observations I've made on my own Mini scanner. One thing I found by is that the tripod does extend. Grab the head of it and pull upwards and it will give you 10cm extra height.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

YES I CANT BELIEVE I MISSED THAT lol. Can always use an extra cm or 2 ha ha! I will say, we have Range here as a beta from Revopoint and now with 5.0 for the software it is a COMEPLETELY different scanner. SO MUCH BETTER. I will be curious to see if Mini has gotten better too.

@timwalton3443

Жыл бұрын

I might have to download the new software and try again. What's changed to make it better?

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

It's a whole different game. No more having scan and studio separate. Better UI and ux. A+

I think it's possible to get better results with not spray also the table, so it not losing the tracking of the table.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

The problem then is how do you put the part on the table without touching it. Touching the spray messes it up.

This is similar to my experience with the Mini so far. I’m hopeful that I can find a niche for it in my workflow but so far it has been pretty useless. There doesn’t seem to be a way to delete points and stitch multiple scans within the Revo Scan software. I think you can do it in Revo Studio but it would be much more convenient to do it as you go. I have an Einscan Pro 2X Plus as well and the user experience is night and day so far. The Einscan software is much more intuitive and just works. Revopoint just announced that they are going to be doing another Kickstarter for a large object scanner. Hopefully they can get their software sorted out before then. It needs a lot of work.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

I have a Pro 2X as well. Will be doing a couple of videos with it and then selling it I think.. It does not fill a gap that I have alas. Would be looking to kick it for cheap though (under 2500). The Einscan software is much nicer than Revopoint but Artec makes them both look like child's play. Mind you, artec studio is $1200/yr lol.... I agree, I think the hardware has it where it counts, but the software is lacking

I think you should switch to marker tracking vs. feature tracking in the software. I have both a Mini and Pop 2. For DIYer's I really like them. I actually used the Pop 2 to scan my kids to scale their Halloween costumes. I used the Mini to scan a lid for one of their water bottles and printed it in PC Carbon Fiber (they are tough on stuff :)

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Tried that in a deleted scene, it would either pickup the targets or the black part, not both. I did not try again after the spray though

@Todestelzer

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers try feature mode and make yourself scan targets. You can use blue tape and crumble it. This will get picket up really well. Or 3d print Little pyramids out of white or blue not shiny filament.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Printing some tracking things, but again, I do not think it should be needed.. But whatever.

Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts on the Einstar? I see some reviewers out there who claim that might be the best option for under $1K.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

needs so much ram... You need a computer that is at least 1.5k to run it lol.. I will be showing it in a stream soon maybe, stay tuned

@jphalip

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers Yeah it's definitely resource hungry! :) Assuming you already have a beefy computer to back it up, is Einstar really the best option for a

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

There are a LOT of options out there under a grand, so I dont know.. I will say, it is pretty damn good, but it all depends on what you are scanning. at 4pm Eastern I will be looking at the creality cr scan ferret, I am not holding out hope for it, but I will have the einstar and the revopoint range out there too to test against. Maybe even my Artec Eva.

I wonder how it's supposed to work if you have an object with 2 sides and the sides are different. If they are the same you could potentiality scan one side, cut it half in blender and add a mirror modifier. But if they aren't, that could be a problem.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

You would scan both sides and align them in post

@awilliams1701

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers I would imagine that could get complicated

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

yeahhhhhhh

confused. How does this product sublimate? Sublimation is the transition of matter from a solid state to a gas state skipping the liquid state. Right?

@taylorst1515

Жыл бұрын

Never mind. Now i see it.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

You are correct. The spray solidifies on the parts then sublimates off over time. It takes a while.. I will have to do a timelapse of it one day

how is the mini at scanning thin objects i need vintage he man armor scanned along with my 90's toy armor for beetle borgs and mummies alive

@3DMusketeers

6 ай бұрын

I hear it has gotten better, but I have not used it much personally since this video. We got an Artec Spider that feels like cheating when scanning lol

@TheCanadienMickeyMouse

6 ай бұрын

@@3DMusketeers id love a spider :) but at $50,000 here in australia its a tad TOO high

@3DMusketeers

6 ай бұрын

damn its 50k there? its 25k here.. Check used though, you may be able to get it for a decent price.

@TheCanadienMickeyMouse

6 ай бұрын

@@3DMusketeers in australia i dont think i ever seen one hit second hand market there is only one place in i think syndey way far south way way waaaay far south that has these

@3DMusketeers

6 ай бұрын

ah, fair.. I am seeing spiders for 10-15k here in the states.

I would really like affordable scanner content for the hobbyist, tinkerer, rc-modellist and the one video to watch for a seamless entry into precision scanning for the newbie 😊

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

there is nothing that is amazing right now..

@mikahot1371

4 ай бұрын

​@@3DMusketeers it's still is absolutely ass, I bought the revopoint Mini 2 3D scanner and it can't even scan simple things like a brp gas cap yet I paid 1.5k, heck the status struggle to be scanned... I'm definitely sending it back what a waste. And they claim it's 0.02mm accurate... Yeah right it's not even 1cm accurate.

I just dropped the dime on one of these with the turntable. I'm also a Kickstart premium backer on the Range. Looking forward to getting into the scanning, 3d printing with a LaserPecker 4 to make a few bucks. 😂

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

The new 5.0 software looks NICE for both Range and Mini, I will have to see how it does. Range is really well done IMO, especially for the price.

@JoeyMcNew-Drummer

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers I downloaded the 5.0 on windows and my android so I'll be ready when my mini gets to me on Wednesday. 😂

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

nice! I need to try it with my mini...

Man, its hard to believe the Mini can't do better than that, I just got a Pop 2, but have been telling people to go for the mini if they need better/smaller detail.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

the mini is such a pain to work with on tracking. I am told the latest software fixes it but I havent gotten around to trying

Yes more scanning content would be great, I like your honest reviews and would love to see the Einscan HX, but I'm quite sure you don't own one since you have the Eva.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Correct I do not. I have an einstar though. There is a local Shining 3D Office to me, and I know they have an HX. Maybe they will let me go out and film??? The software is why I own an Eva.. and with how cheap they are second hand, it is worth it to me. The HX is a GAME CHANGER though, having blue laser light as well. Would LOVE to have one.

@motoformprototyping

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers let's hope they let you try it, keep it up

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

I would LOVE Senpai at Shining 3D to notice me LOL

Did you happen to find out that the scanner holder is telescoping so you can raise it buy pulling it

@3DMusketeers

11 ай бұрын

Wwwaaayyyyy too late LOL. But yes you'll see in the comments when someone blew my mind

Yoooo how have i not seen your channel before? I came in your shop once when you just opened at wiregrass mall years ago. I think you started my 3d printer itch. Now I have a bunch of printers, im finishing my first voron printer. I think you made me fall in love with delta printers ever since i saw the ones you had in your shop I was hooked! Do you still have an actual storefront nowadays?

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

I am happy to be responsible for this! Yes that was us! Oh god, I HATE deltas lol. Although I do want to try the v400 from FL SUN. No storefront these days. No point in having that extra overhead.

@MatttKelly

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers yea the v400 looks so nice. Im doing a voron trident rn its so cool watching it slowly come together.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

One day we will do a voron build...

@MatttKelly

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers its been really great so far but its prob been close to 2months that ive been slowly sourcing and building it

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

SWEET!

Thanks for you review. Have the same one without 2 Axis Turntable. In short: it's software SUCKS. Absolutely. It is hard to make it scanning successfully at all. But you can: that tripod is not actually that small, it extends. Best to have the scanner having about 45 degrees down on that tripod. Putting a lot of small things like 3D printed boxes of about 7-10 mm around the item you scan really helps. Don't try to rely on the markers, it loses those too easy. You can get the results then, but due it's software this scanner is "what did you want for 1K USD at all" like you said, alas. Both it's software and this software creator needs a punch! )) Hope Revopoint will do something to it since the hardware is really nice, but for now I doubt it.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

OMG IT EXTENDSSSS I HAD NO CLUE lol. THANK YOU! It is not obvious ha ha ha There is a good print out there that screws to the dual axis plate with features to track. I agree the hardware is amazing for the money, but the software leaves much to be desired

I think the biggest weakness of that laptop is the ram. 8gb isn't a lot these days, but then again I believe on doing serious work on a desktop so it's probably fine. The CPU isn't that different than mine. Mines a 6 core ryzen 4700u.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

It has 32gb and has had it for a while :)

@awilliams1701

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers nice

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, it is a necessity for scanning. More ram.

What the next best scanner up from this ?

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Is that all depends on what your needs are. If you are scanning something large, it would be different than if you are scanning something small. I am still getting mine to function properly, but if you have a good computer The shining 3D einstar is pretty darn good for the money from what I can tell. That will be an upcoming video that we do as I did purchase one recently

@erikcederb

Жыл бұрын

If you want to use it in the same range as the Revopoint Mini, tiny things on a turntable with an insane resolution and the option for texture scanning, the Shining3D Transcan C would be the next step up, at about 5x the price. If you want to scan a bit larger things (100mm cube and upwards, and you don't need insane resolution), the Einstar is awesome for the price ($959) Both have significantly more mature software compared to the Revopoint offerings (even if it still isn't as good as the Artec software that Grant loves and pays more than some of these scanners costs per year to use)

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

I really want that Einstar to be so good!! But the software needs work

It's crazy how much reviews can vary.

@3DMusketeers

7 ай бұрын

For sure. And I'm sure they have done some firmware and software tweaks since I looked at it so long ago

@justinkase1360

7 ай бұрын

@@3DMusketeers I suspected that was the case. yours was far from the only review that showed a lot of problems. If this was still $1k, I probably wouldn't buy one but I'm about to get it for about half of that for my first scanner. Hopefully it's okay for a hobbyist that doesn't mind learning the quirks. I will be scanning mainly firearms and related parts...spray and a dark room will be a must.

@3DMusketeers

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't trust this cheap scanner to firearms parts, but hey, good luck with it! I now have an Artec Spider to compare. This may be worth revisiting

@justinkase1360

7 ай бұрын

@@3DMusketeers LOL, thanks. If I were ever scanning anything critical, I would double check dimensions. I have been making due with just a caliper and doing a ton of modeling from scratch...this will be far better than that. I would like to have a $5k scanner, but that will have to wait for now. I would not mind spending more if it delivered better results. I'm open to suggestions, $2k or less. I suspect you mean that I should get parts professionally scanned for a nominal fee. That is a possibility, depending on the part.

@3DMusketeers

7 ай бұрын

Yeah depends on the use case really. If you have the PC for it, the Einstar is a great scanner just not for tiny things

I got in on the revopoint pop 1 scanner kickstarter a few years ago for $300. It looked pretty promising for that price point but imo it was held back by its poor software and user experience. Looks like those aspects haven’t improved a ton.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

not in my opinion

The tripod can extend almost double it's length you just have to pull it up

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that has been pointed out to me lol. I didn't know

Since I was very, very confused I had to look up micro b. I didn't know there was an a. I just called it micro for the duration I used it. And yes I hate them. mini was far superior to micro. however C is better than literally EVERYTHING. (including crapple's lightning)

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I am confused as to why they chose this port really...

@awilliams1701

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers even if mini was better than micro, micro became the standard. c is the new standard, but micro is more common and probably easier to come by. I suspect that will start to change. I can't imagine that the cost difference would amount to that much though.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Same..

What’s your favorite smaller parts 3d scanner sub $2000? Something on the scale of what you tested here.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

nothing. There just really is not a good option at that price point. Either it is like the Revopoint and is amazing hardware with garbage software or it is mediocre at both hardware and software.

@karinejohannecharlot1781

Жыл бұрын

How about the Einscan SP ?

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

@@karinejohannecharlot1781 I have not used it, however I do have an Einscan Pro 2X here I would sell on the cheap if you are interested!

@karinejohannecharlot1781

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers Are you so disappointed with the pro2x ? From what i've sen, the SP has the same level of detail as the mini, but with better software and workflow. It lacks a handheld mode however. btw, just in case you want to give the mini another chance, Revo scan v5 has been rethought from scratch, there's no longer need for a second app to merge scans and it is supposed to have better tracking. I saw a video that convinced me that the $4000 einscan pro series might nor be what i need for smaller parts. (toys) I'll check if you have videos of the Einscan Pro 2X scanning small objects, thanks for the offer, i'll condiser it. Regards

@karinejohannecharlot1781

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers How much would tou sell it ? I’m in Europe so the shipping fees may kill us. Regards

I purchased this scanner a few weeks ago. It does not work well at all. I have tried many of the techniques suggested and still cannot get a good scan with the items I want to scan. It does well on the sample bust. I believe the the cause is the firmware and the post scan software. I want a simple solution, not one that takes hours to get a mediocre output. Do not buy.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah with better software this scanner could be amazing. But it needs that better software.

That was kinda disappointing and confirmed my assumption only the expensive af ones for commercial use are really only viable. Thanks for the video.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Some people have had success, but many are dealing with the same thing I am..

Jumping in blind really didn't make for a considered opinion. Your technique for scanning those parts leaves a lot to be desired. The first part for example, you adjusted the exposure on the home screen. When you start the scan it resets, so you should adjust to the best level then. I hope you dedicate some time to learn how to use the scanner and then update to include a more considered opinion. Also, one rotation of capture works best. Leaving it scanning thousands of frames isn't going to yield good results.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Jumping in does wonders for a first look. This is 100% indicative of how most people use products. The fact it resets after you set it is absolutely stupid and something i got later down in the video. Multi rotation is needed if you cannot capture all surfaces. Time will be allotted eventually. Should have been today but there is a hurricane overhead right now.

@Todestelzer

Жыл бұрын

@@3DMusketeers yeah one revolution with 300 frames is the best. Stop the scan deselect meshing. Click point cloud mesh and select 0.02. You have to do this EVERY time you stopped a scan! If not it will use a random point cloud settings how is much less dense. You can check this by the mesh count after meshing the part. Should be around 5m vertexes for 300 frames.

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Wow.. That is really dumb really.. The dual axis exists for a reason, to do a single scan. Every other scanner I own would handle multiple revolutions without any issue, including the cheaper ones.

@that3vilbastard

Жыл бұрын

I've got this scanner but no real clue how to use it. Any chance you have a link to some resources so I can learn?

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

@@that3vilbastard the software is terrible, it is not you..

insert "and remember _____ is toxic!"

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

lol

@karinejohannecharlot1781

Жыл бұрын

No it’s not ! KOF KOF -slowly dying helplessly on the floor…

Same results…. Sorta hit and miss.. tracking logic is really the fault here.. if you don’t lose tracking it’s a really decent scan.. but once it goes south that’s all there is too it.. the FOV is blamed but the Creality lizard has a even worse FOV yet I scanned a 302 SBF engine block.. the Mini wouldn’t even get 6”-10” of the scan and loses its mind..

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah tracking has some miles to go, but I agree, if it works, it is great!

If anyone is looking to buy one here you go : Theirs scanner are still is absolute ass, I bought the revopoint Mini 2 3D scanner and it can't even scan simple things like a brp gas cap yet I paid 1.5k, heck the status that come with the scanner struggle to be scanned... I'm definitely sending it back what a waste. And they claim it's 0.02mm accurate... Yeah right it's not even 1cm accurate.

@3DMusketeers

4 ай бұрын

Bummer you are having that experience. My feeling is that revopoint has good hardware but lack software control :/

I have a revopoint pop 2 mini. And I had huge expectations for my work after blogger's video that praised this scanner. When I picked it up I was disappointed a lot because I spent a lot of time but the result of scanning was horrible. Do not buy this sh*t

@3DMusketeers

Жыл бұрын

with better software I see lots of good happening..

The last part you are having problem to scan it’s because you are using scan by feature mode, you can change setting to follow the dot on turn table. It won’t have the miss align error

@3DMusketeers

3 ай бұрын

When we did this, that feature was bugged out lol. Now it may be working better. May be worth a re-visit, however with the mini2 I dont know..