You can use baby powder or cord starch sprinkled over your model to make it easier to scan if the color/texture is reflective or otherwise messes with the scan sensor.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Very nice tip, thanks 😁

@johnmccanntruth

Жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@tokagehideto

Жыл бұрын

If you really need it to be a spray (on really smooth/shiny surface for example) you can use dry shampoo spray that easily come off when finished or scanning spray (duh) which temporarily give a mat finish to the piece to scan and then evaporate.

@timvangenechten5258

Жыл бұрын

I use the dry shampoo myself. It is amazingly easy to get off afterwards using a soft brush. I Was a bit afraid to use it on important objects at first, but after some testing I know what to expect.

@RichardBetel

Жыл бұрын

There’s also the fake snow spray for making windows look frosted.

Excellent review from the layman's standpoint. Just what we needed. Thank you!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Try it with CR Studio 2, especially the latest version. It really improves the quality and ease of use

Love the new intro! Biff, pow, bam! Clunk, clunk.. (mysterious music plays).. Awesome.. And great review as always!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I spent a fortune on those high definition and incredibly authentic sound effects. Glad you enjoyed them 😁😁😁

It wasn't that long ago that aligning multiple scans was a real chore. Im impressed with the results! And that accuracy for the price is amazing.

you can dust parts with talcum powder or 3d scanning spay to help with scanning.

@RoseKindred

Жыл бұрын

Huh, that is neat to know. I've done it for photography on reflective surfaces but never thought to include that with a scanner.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Very nice tip, thanks 😁

"His bear behind..." 🤣 Geoff, you're killing me! That is actually a neat piece of equipment. I could use one of those... thanks buddy.

Simply outstanding review Sir!💖👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it 😁

Thankyou, Geoff. Always on the case!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Christian 😁

12:31 "Even though I personally like big vases, big urns and especially big jugs" - My man

3D scanning (for jewellery) is something I've been getting into with the openscan project. Its really interesting you might want to give it a look. Its still not perfect, but its improving all the time. Also, try AESUB 3D scanning spray, its not cheap but I've found it really helps. 3Djake sells it.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I may well have to. I've avoided these for a while, but I can see now there's great potential here 😁

depending on the scanner some scanners will use the black as higher position or the white as the higher. i tend to use the textures maps as an alpha map as a displacement map in zbrush to boost the details. then bake to the model. remember to flip the alpha map. scans look good. i use a lot of 3d scanners. :) i have a load of them. i also use photogrammetry with some scans to make 3d models. there are many kinds of scanners out there.

The new intro is awesomeeeee. You just need to add a couple of laser sounding PEW PEWs

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Oooo... that's a good idea 😁

That's great! I didn't realize hand scanners were that good yet. I'm surprised the Gameboy scanned so well while the space marine didn't. I wonder if the space marine would benefit from a primer coat or something, maybe the reflective plastic messed with the scan? I used to mess with a program called meshroom that used a bunch of photos that it would stitch together to form a model. The problem there is that the environment came with, so the table, back wall, floor, everything. Lots of cleanup!

Nice review Geoff! I have been wondering about getting a 3d scanner for miniatures, jewellery, bits 'n' bobs and parts. Very interesting indeed...

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan. Glad you enjoyed it 😁

You should take a look on the products from AESUB. They have scanning sprays (including transparent) that disapear in 3h after spraying. I worked 3 years with 3d scanners from Artec and the AESUB spray are an absolute must have for 3d scanning. They also have dot points, that helps to allign the different scans better.

Great review. If I had a need, seems pretty good… pricey as just a toy however.

5:06 - Trolling the Chinese benefactors with Winnie the Pooh is peak VogMan. LOL

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John 😁

I was surprised the measurements in ZBrush matched up after being scanned. Not exact but close enough. Since I don't have Z, I wonder how accurate it would import to Blender. I can see a use for this. Hand carve a pendant on a larger scale and scan it. Shrink it in the program, print, and cast.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Yes, working that way round would work well. You wouldn't need to go made with the detail on the big parent piece as when it shrink, details would appear. Clever thinking!

@torstenneuer1560

Жыл бұрын

If you can carve something that you want to cast, then why carve it in larger scale. Downscaling will - no doubt - always have some impact on the precision. So you carve, scan, downscale, print, then correct issues and then cast. That's 3 steps more than required. Now if you have trouble seeing any details in a delicate carving: Buy yourself an optivisor or maybe even a engraver's or stone setter's microscope. This will still be a lot cheaper (and quicker in the process) than the scanning option (which involves the expensive scanner and a high resolution printer).

Well, that did a way better job than I thought it would. I've tried photogrammetry before with mostly awful to poor results. Many reviews have indicated similar to underwhelming results from items like this scanner. What you demonstrated makes me want to own one of these units (I'll add it to the multipage list of things to buy) There are commercial items available that spray on and wash off - or even evaporate - to combat reflectivity and colour being turned into texture. Great review Sir.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerry 😁

Interesting video as always. I backed the Revopoint POP2, and since then - every firmware update made it even better. But dont have the free time atm to play with it a lot :-(

I wonder how it compares with the Revopoint Pop 2 3d scanner which I had my eye on, because I got convinced that it was the best scanner for the money.

Sweet intro graphics ;) Thanks for another great review! Here is a hot tip though, use OBJ instead of STL. 3D apps like Zbrush, Blender, Maya, etc will all do much better with OBJ format. If you look at what an STL really is, it does almost nothing at retaining information on what triangles are connected. This can be a bit of a problem at times. OBJ is just modern and stable enough to retain that information.

Pretty impressive, would love to see a comparison to the Revopoint Pop 2 which this competes with, though it's just curiosity on my part as I'm unlikely to ever have a need for one. Side note your Zbrush UI setup hurts my eyes haha but whatever works for you with the small screen there's admittedly a lot to fit in, one of the first things I did back when I started using it was figure out how to get rid of the default gradient background which I think is nasty and use a flat grey instead

Winne the *Redacted* -1000000 social point for you sir

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks 😁

Got one of these on the original Kickstarter campaign. It's pretty good; albeit the software is a bit clunky at times. As mentioned by others - dry shampoo spray helps on some objects, and can be easily washed off. There are "proper" sprays for this application but they're fairly expensive. I've successfully scanned objects down to about 40mm (in height) but admittedly they weren't particularly detailed models.

i'm not in the market for a 3d scanner at all.... but I must say...this was pretty informative and quite entertaining!!! nicely done

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

11:24 allow me to caption for those who are hearing impaired. “Now we will see how the scanner does at scanning objects from a pre-historic period. Here I present to you a game boy unit perfectly preserved.” All jokes aside, I wish my game boy was in that good of shape. That was a nice little piece of nostalgia to see. Thank you for sharing that with us.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

My son "borrowed" it some years ago... now it's definitely in "used" condition 😁

Excellent review, Vogman - thank you! Personally, I am holding off until the technology evolves to reliably scan small objects. In particular, I wish to scan 1/35 scale miniatures and print them out at a smaller scale on a resin printer. Maybe a pipe-dream - but the next decade will tell.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it will be that long 😁

@ausfoodgarden

Жыл бұрын

The technology is basically here already, we just have to wait for it to become affordable.

thanks i'm in the same boat, surprised you didnt the scan a face

Many thanks for this review I’ve been wanting a scanner for a number of years but unfortunately if it can’t scan small objects this looks out of the question still. Especially at that price. That said it does look pretty good.

First.... Thanks for the video.. It looks very nice....

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Most welcome 😊

Thanks for sharing 👍

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Oh neat, it turns a space marine into a plague marine. Jokes aside, this very much has that 1st generation product feel, not all that useful but has a lot of promise for future development, curious to see how good these could become. I wouldn't be surprised if the next generation combines scanning with photogrammetry to clean up the result, especially on textured or small objects. On a side note, your videos finally convinced me to get my first 3D printer. Saturn 2 is on the way and arriving just in time for me to leave before even having time to unpack it.

@cenciende9401

Жыл бұрын

It's actually the second generation when you take into account what it was inspired by... You don't wanna know what the first was like lol, and that's not even mentioning the predecessors

@the_arcanum

Жыл бұрын

There's a solution for scanning minature sized models with decent accuracy. It's OpenScan. It's technically different and out of the scope of this one as it's an automated rotating turntable AND tilting photo head that does under and overshoot the model. It's thus limited to small figures (you won't be able to freehand scan an engine block or a chair) but it's surprisingly accurate. And reasonably priced. The tech gap has been bridged and the only thing industrial pro scanning machines have still is speed. I don't think we'll see much progress until A.I. enters the field to reinvent the finest details the current algorithms are not able to extract from the images.

good review. if the price was about 1/2 I would seriously consider it. regarding the size aspect, if you wanted to make your own miniatures for gaming etc., a posable model of action figure could be used to make a scan, and the obj or stl modeled further in your modeling program of choice allowing you to get a good head start on a sculpt. similar for jewelry, making a large detailed model in clay or wax etc. you could get a good start on the final sculpt. Charms of scans of beloved dolls, toys, sport equipment etc. is also a application that would allow for labor saving on sculpting. Finally a trophy using a old gi joe or barbie would allow for a easy start on sculpting. The software looks better than some older ones I have seen, price and size are the biggest issues. I would attempt a large turntable with the markings scaled up to see if a full person scan was doable.

@cenciende9401

Жыл бұрын

Yeah well good luck expecting any company to sell a product with no profit, we'd all love everything to be 1/2 the price it is! haha. They'll get cheaper over the next couple of years and may hit that price point in 2024 if you keep your eye out

You should check out using polycam on a lidar equiped phone.

So the texture mode requires a second camera or a phone since the scanner itself does not have a color camera. Also a dongle to sync the photo with the flashes.

Regarding making of jewelry, no... it is not possible to make a jewel and scan it. But if it is about making your own then you can sculpt it larger, scan it, and scale it. This will also help cover imperfections in your sculpt.

There’s also scan spray that goes on the white, and then dissipates off the model over the course of an hour or two

Why is Douglas Adams reviewing 3D scanners? Also - great review Doug!

vogman there are matt sprays that are inert and dissappear (evaporate) after a time that give you a flat surface texture on things for the scan process.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Nice tip, thanks 😁

Good review. Pretty cool, but I have no clue what to use it for. I'm sure more creative types can think of something to use it for. I have tried photogrammetry for fun, not as accurate as this but it's free and you're not computer bound as you can take pictures with whatever device you want and upload them into the software. But accuracy was lacking for me.

Try water washable spray pait for better surfaces. Small parts don’t work well on turntable, but what’s about hand mode, maybe with better lights setup? Can you try to solve this problem? Thks a lot for this review!)

Look into the Revopoint POP scanner...

seems to me like a good option for home scanning as long as tutorials and online resources get better, if you can afford it that is

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

But like all these things, the more popular they become, the cheaper they get 😁

I too like 'big jugs'. Cheers. Nice review, i'd buy it of it was a bit cheaper tbh.

great video, must say I am also a fan of big jugs :D

great video! too bad it won't work on jewelry...

The vegoilguyman is back.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Don't tell KZread 😉😁😂

Is it a Mac option for the software?

I wonder if there is a 3d scanner for smaller parts ? I'm a model kit hobbyist so this scanner may not work for me cause model kit parts are fairly small

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

There are some designed for the jewellery trade I believe. They probably have a price tag to match 😁

I made a mistake to scan my mother inlaw. Now she is immortalized😢

It did kinda turn the mini into a chaos marine lol

you can’t scan space marine because GW is blocking this feature for scanner due to copyright 😅

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

You could be right 😉😁🤣👍👍👍

Damn, HOW? 2 Weeks i'm trying to receive good quality of miniatures - and always I got tonns of noise points! Dust shower, Baby powder - doesn't help - quality is always bad. HOW YOU DO THIS? After this weeks I'm really thinking about sell this damned scanner.

you dont need this any iphone 12 or 13 pro has a lidar sensor in it theres a free program in the ios store that scans and puts it into stl files so if you own a iphone 12 pro 13 pro etc your all set

thıs scan a metal?

Wow! Does Mrs Vog know that you got something right? I honestly wouldn't tell her.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Luckily she doesn't watch my videos - she's married to me after all 😁😁😁

This one goes out to all the blokes out there who are blessed with a missus that has lots of ornaments, but no big jugs... X"D I envy the lot of you, for I.... have no missus at all!! :"(((

LIZARD!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes 😁

Champ.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks 😁

you are still on you tube

It's nice symples to use but John boy will not be getting one just yet just like a 3D printer I'll wait for the technology to get better. And yes just like you VogMan I do like Jugs F£*%ing Big ones! 🤣🤣

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I think these will become more popular, and that should lead to lower prices 😁

@PBRJOHN684

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman I think so too Buddy, and that's why I'm going to wait a while (due to the cost of living!)

The snowball is rolling down the hill and will become a huge smashing ball in the future for miniature gaming companies. First though, the tech needs to improve.

Nice, but £530 though...

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Yes, quite a chunk of change...

Powdered shampoo….has the same effect as paint bu5 does not hurt the item

LONG LIVE VOGMAN!

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark 😁

@markmorgan8378

Жыл бұрын

@@vogman ok just have to say Winnie the S&$t had me rolling.

It's very important to note, they are currently in litigation in the US. Alleged source code theft from Artec.

Waiting for your wife to realize you said you "like big jugs" .....also the scans were a bit pixelated but then again you have a GameBoy to play old pixelated games, so it all makes sense now. 🤪

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Just @#%!!! off with your pixelated comments!!!! 😉😁🤣😂 It's not a problem... 1, my wife never watches my videos and 2, she's know me well 😁

Is your Misses aware of your passion for big jugs, Vog?

Another product review...hussah?. Not sure why I'm still subscribed.

You should have scanned some of those big jugs you have laying around... then again that video may have had to be uploaded to a whole different website. 🤣😂

That's old software get the newest it's much better

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised... it updated, so I assumed it's the current version.

A problem with reviews of this style of hardware is they are generally reviewed by those with knowledge of the hardware. Thanks for a review for "The rest of us". ps. Have you done a google search for "jugs"? You may find there are some in your area.

@vogman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mick. Glad to help 😁