Is This All Just Fake Beef?
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We are right around the corner from UFC 303 and the UFC Pre-fight Presser belonged to the feud between Ian Garry and Michael Venom Page, but a video emerged immediately after showing the two being friendly, so the question is - is this just fake beef?
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You expect MVP to trash talk the baby???
@yanmagno3
3 күн бұрын
That’d be some Colby level of low
@jamesthompson9003
3 күн бұрын
@@yanmagno3 I think Izzy is the only one who has targeted someone's kids
@grandmastersub
3 күн бұрын
U mean dog? @@jamesthompson9003
@philth7587
3 күн бұрын
@@jamesthompson9003There are videos of him being friendly with Alex's kid. The kid mocked him, Izzy gave some cheek back, but he's never been mean spirited towards him.
@jamesthompson9003
3 күн бұрын
@@philth7587 Mocking someone's crying kids after KOing their dad seems pretty low (even if it's Dogbender 'clapping back' in his ongoing feud with a pre-teen boy). OP's idea of 'trash talking the baby' seems more harmless to some infant who doesn't understand words lol
It’s fake . Simple . You’re welcome.
@FallGuysFTW
3 күн бұрын
Saved us 20 minutes
@El.broder
3 күн бұрын
@@FallGuysFTW 16:46
@beejj6190
2 күн бұрын
What a basic thick - Bob response. Do you think that professionals (with *certain* attitudes) would be so stupid to maintain beef with a baby there?? You could see they weren't truly comfortable backstage. Finally, do you really think they won't really be punching / kicking each other in the face during the fight... joker.
Why is there no consideration that these guys might just be mentally disciplined, and can switch in and out of that adversarial headspace? That’s a critical skill for people to build even during regular life, let alone as fighters.
@ghagzor
3 күн бұрын
Exactly. What, is he supposed to be an asshole to Ian's baby?
@alexalexalex92
3 күн бұрын
@@ghagzor and Ian too-you’re telling me people somehow aren’t able to carry themselves in more than one way and still be authentically themselves? These guys aren’t cartoon characters
@noodle_tax
3 күн бұрын
Exactly
@starseeddeluxe
3 күн бұрын
I prefer Ian's trash talk to Colby's horrendously inappropriate and vulgar trash talk or Strickland's slurring animal noises and outbursts. I don't know anything about Ian Garry, except what I've seen on KZread, but realistically, he's probably the best trash talker in the UFC right now. He can get through his lines without fumbling and having a complete mental breakdown...
@Luke_Carroll
3 күн бұрын
Nah bro MVP needs to square up with Ian and have an altercation whilst Ian holds his young child. SMH 🤦🏼♂️ of course he’s not gonna do that
I don't think it's fake just because they were acting appropriately with a baby around. They both have gentleman like quality and they know how to engage the crowd to sell the fight. I think it's just competitive beef (like FW aspinall said) and I believe I see mutual respect of both their respective skill sets. With that being said, I'm rooting for MVP.
@hooman6305
3 күн бұрын
ian garry ?? gentleman ??? LOL ... NICE JOKE
@anasalami1561
3 күн бұрын
@@hooman6305 Ian Garry is undeniably a gentleman. Such a gentleman in fact that he is willing to share his wife.
@lobo_solo214
2 күн бұрын
@@anasalami1561 the wag is a scholar and he a gentleman
Every single time Garry is on a card, there’s always a video of him showing his opponent his baby, think he just likes to do it but it’s definitely all mind games too
The beef looks fake cause Ian a fake individual. He’s not who he claims he is.
@ScrapStoriesYT
3 күн бұрын
Elaborate?
@dolod777
3 күн бұрын
bro is so untalanted is laughable. he tries to act in order to increase his popularity, but its so fkn off every time.
@mikewebster8224
3 күн бұрын
@@ScrapStoriesYT Guy is an Irishman who swears he was born in the favela next to Charlie Olives', what is there to elaborate on?
@seanmmaii7018
3 күн бұрын
Ur a city fan bro ur as fake as it gets 😭😭, but ur still right Ian is fake
@nathanchristman6660
3 күн бұрын
@@dolod777saying Ian Garry is not talented is wild. That man has more talent than most people will ever have. You don't go undefeated in MMA by having no talent.
“Ian likes to hurt people” Ian can’t take mean comments on instagram lol
@bluto727
3 күн бұрын
can't be both?
@GusMcGusGus
3 күн бұрын
Yea this makes no sense
@GinkgoPete
3 күн бұрын
Linking to hurt people and having insanely thin skin are not mutually exclusive at all.
@gophukurself420
2 күн бұрын
They kept bringing that up, too. He doesn't fight like he likes to hurt people. It's like how Strickland always implies he's going to brawl but then just point fights, Gary is the same.
Someone should tell Ian Garry it's pretty easy to prove you're younger than someone, he doesnt have to go into the Octagon to do that.
@twindigo
Күн бұрын
Someone should tell UFC fans to stop be bitches and judge fighters on skills. Ireland 1 England 0. 🤣😂👍
It feels like an unwritten rule that when children are there, whatever beef you have its not important at that point. The things said in the conference might all be true and legit heat but that doesn't mean u have to attack someone when their kids are there
Ian Garry showed up dressed like a waiter. MVP wore an Ill-fitting suit like he was kid at his communion. These press conferences are a joke at this point.
@BatCaveOz
3 күн бұрын
Wait... so the press conferences are a joke because of... fashion?
@randazza
3 күн бұрын
@@BatCaveOz they're a joke because the media asks the same tired, and predictable questions. Dana White ended it while Ian Garry was in the middle of trash talking
@Induna123
3 күн бұрын
LOL, MVP looked liked a blind man in a suit.
No way. Maybe WWE is fake? NO WAY GUYS
@Chevrolet007
3 күн бұрын
No proof I refuse to believe it
@macbook802
3 күн бұрын
Ever since WWE bought the ufc it's all fake. Vince McMahon Orchestrated
Gary is just endless cringe. Literally every word that squirms out of his mouth.
@starseeddeluxe
3 күн бұрын
I am still confused how people don't like Ian. He's not a bad, malicious drunk who crashes his car into sweet ladies... He is rude and snarky, but it's good trash talk. Ian's trash talk is orders of magnitude more polite and respectful than Colby, and Ian can actually speak without stumbling all the words.
@SpencerDonahue
3 күн бұрын
@@starseeddeluxe its just really bad acting. He talked about "bodying" Jeff Neal and then proceeded to run around the cage for 15 minutes. He willfully lives in the shadow of Conor and doesn't see that as a problem. Being capable of completing sentences isn't the flex you seem to think it is, the guy is a fucking dork yet can manage to be coherent.
@AlexYoung1995
3 күн бұрын
@@starseeddeluxe He is the Drake of MMA and it'll show itself more soon He is really disingenuous and unauthentic, he acts like the guy who's friendly with everybody but friends with nobody
I don't know why people can't understand that they both put their differences away while a kid was around. You can't be a dick in front of a kid, pretty simple.
Idk maybe it’s bc boxing is so much older with so many more examples but it seems perfectly reasonable that two ppl who make money fighting are capable of compartmentalizing their ability to beat their opponent through training and strategy while also behaving normally with them as a coworker. In the least it seems possible. Not saying I expect that from everyone. Some on the roster seem the need to despise the guy in front of them to perform. I get that too
Where is Max's prediction videos? really miss them.
90% of it is "fake" hard to sell fights if everybody likes eachother😂😂
3:25 Jason's thoughts on Colby were perfectly said. Agree 100%
@Alexanderfranksofficial
3 күн бұрын
It just seems like he's in a weird spot where everyone knows he's just poorly playing a bad cringy character and he probably knows it to but he's so deep into this persona and it's such an integral part of his career that he may be stuck.
Its all fake guys! They are selling the fight! Jeez lol
@noahdebruijn6374
3 күн бұрын
I don’t get it, it’s a high quality match up doesn’t need any beef
@805Goodland
3 күн бұрын
@@noahdebruijn6374that’s not what sells
@PTracer921
3 күн бұрын
If they did a real tournament over a years time they wouldn't need this fake shit to sell fights.. March madness is a huge event because it's more real to people
@Austin.Kilgore
3 күн бұрын
@@noahdebruijn6374added drama makes fights more exciting… of it’s real.
@Austin.Kilgore
3 күн бұрын
Maybe this “beef” is… but no, it’s not “all fake”. Clearly this guys are very confident/competitive guys and when pitted against one another, genuine animosity can 1000% form between the two.
I hate Ian. His persona, his voice, his confidence. He sounds like a 14 year old boy going through puberty, wants to be mcgregor and thinks he can beat everyone. Can’t wait till MVP humbles him
@SnailHatan
3 күн бұрын
Imagine hating a stranger who isn’t a politician or businessman
@Chevrolet007
3 күн бұрын
@@SnailHatanimagine standing up for Ian Garry of all fighters
Whether it's real or fake makes no difference they are fighting regardless. That's the only thing that matters
“Spying” in mma is complete hogwash a real fighter sticks thier finger into their opponent’s chest and tells them exactly what they’re going to do and they can’t do anything to stop it 🗣️
99% of the beefs are fake. People still don't get it.
I have never seen so many smooth brains around one table.
yes, like 99% of mma beef its fake. these guys get paid for it, so they will keep doing as the casuals lap it up
Feelings on point ranting about "real"
They want to sell a fight
it’s not fake but it’s for sure played up to make fans excited. Mvp wouldn’t go backstage and be like “fuck your kid bro” lol
MVP doesnt have kids. You do know these guys HAVE NEVER MET RIGHT LOL...UNTIL THAT DAY..
I dont know about fake. Maybe MVP just knows not to act like a barbarian in front of the kids.
How tf does bro have a different haircut every episode
Their beef is about being a better fighter and being mildly annoyed by the other person. There’s no vitriol hatred that would cause them to be nasty to each other, especially around someone’s baby,
Wait why are we surprised ? MVP said multiple he wants the public to have a show, Ian is a wannabe superstar so it good for him. It’s obviously fake same as a lot of beef between fighters
I think the issue is people cannot understand that if two guys respect eachother when they go into the cage nobody cares. When Colby comes on and makes ALMOST racial comments, harsh insults and overall rude behavior, EVERYONE watches. Thats the key. These two likely are professionals and they respect eachother but if they don't talk shit the fight doesn't sell.
I would just comment 'Yes.' in a stoic fashion, but for the sake of my boys and their algo grind, I will leave an arbitrarily lengthy comment conveying this thought, to succinctly say, that yes, it is a fake beef.
More bets get placed when fighters dislike eachother
Who actually gives a fuck if it's fake beef or not, they're trying to sell the fight, it is entertainment as much as it is a sport. If it sells, it sells.
Ian seemed confident that MVP is getting suspended and MVP didn’t exactly react like an innocent man. Even if it was bs, Garrrypretty accurately analyzed MVP’s psyche. A guy who is desperate to validate his career in a lesser promotion.
Its all fake beef. Talk shit until the other guy talks shit and then the media gets a hold of it and examines the levels of insult. Now buy the fight.
I don't think calling this beef fake is the right thing to say. I think both of them really meant what they said but it's just not personal enough to not be friendly afterwards.
People don't have to fake disliking Ian Garry. But MVP isn't going to be an asshole when the guy's baby is there. I don't think it's that complicated
It almost doesn't matter. I'm no Garry fan, but he clearly has aspirations to be champ. He has to walk through MVP to keep that momentum. The stakes are real enough to make him emotional even if there's no beef.
Don't fighters embrace after a fight in the octagon?😂 These people never truly hate each other in most cases. Just need to sell fight or get yourself in some mentality
Yes, clearly setting up a fight, probably both really respect eachother
People have such an over the top hate boner for Ian it’s kind of hilarious. He’s now the guy I root for just to see people talk about it online after he wins.
I think that it’s all very pathetic when 30+ year olds call each other names..like adolescents
It's hard to say They're obviously both super outspoken, super charismatic and know how to sell a fight I don't think there's any personal dislike or if there is it's minimal, I just think they're both super confident and super competitive
Ian isn't trying to be like conor, he's trying to be like Colby.
MVP is well-received by the UFC fanbase because everyone has wanted him in the UFC for years. It was the same with Michael Chandler and Ben Askren. It's the closest thing to Bellator vs UFC that you can get, and it hypes up the fan base getting to see it. It was a little different with Eddie for some reason, probably his lack of charisma. lol
I met Colby once and asked if he can sign my shirt 7th layer of hair - Colby, he gladly did a real asshole wouldn’t have. Dudes the biggest actor in the ufc, but still a nice dude on the inside
Not fake but just two professionals backstage.
100% Fake beef... as punishment or being discovered, Ian should sit on the "special chair" in the corner.
At least they aren't throwin handcarts thru us windows in front of the cameras for attention, or dissing dead parents. I like fighters who can show a lil class
A compliment I can pay Ian is he hasn't changed a bit. He was exactly how he is now before fighting
You Forgot To Mention That LIMA Almost KO'd MVP The Exact Same Way He Did In The 1st Fight.
ok but like, i wouldn’t lose my shit with another individual too if i had my infant in hand…. and i wouldn’t lose my shit with someone who’s holding their infant as well😭 time and a place
It is not really fake. It is racing the 🥩.
Of course it's fake!...it's ALWAYS fake!...but THIS is what casuals wanted!...they need soap operas to enjoy a fight, it's not enough that contenders are fighting each other to see who's better, these new fruits need fake beef behind it!😒🤦🏾
Hasn’t everyone known this for years? That fighters are just selling fights? Obviously except for maybe a few matchups.
But why did people think it was personal in the first place? They haven't really beefed, they just talked trash about each others styles? Fake to me is literally 2 real friends pretending they hate eachother. 2 guys who don't know eachother, being cordial and professional but then talking shit about the other guy isn't fake? Its what you would expect from a fighter
@barlo90
2 күн бұрын
wow someone with more than 2 braicells
Real beef causes real interest
It's becoming like politics - fighters are learning they need eachother to make lots of money. McGregor changed MMA from primarily classy to trash talk. People apparently love it. So, the formula has been changed from Martial Arts respect to trash talk and beefs, creating a motivated crowd. We were motivated before - but out of curiousity and respect. Now it's a show we buy into.
I don't care if the beef is fake. The fight is gonna be real.
Did people expect MVP to super kick Ian while he’s holding the baby or something?
Reminds me of the scene from Kill Bill 2 I think when they take a break from fighting and try and hide it when the daughter gets home 😂😂 I might have my details a bit wrong don’t crucify me lol
Why would they share these videos of them backstage? That can completely ruin promotion for the fight
It pays to be fake in MMA. So, yeah. It's fake.
Fake beef, prime beef, wagyu...idc i just want a good fight
Yall, they're just selling a fight. Almost every fighter does this
I feel like as fight fans we've all acknowledged at some point, the man inside the cage and the man that is with his family the other 360 ish days of the year. Would it not be fair to say that the mindset of the man at the press conference is cooler to the one in the cage than that of the one at home? I feel like they can have beef as athletes and walk that talk but also be a respectful man/ father when family is around.
This is a non issue Ian did the same with Geoff Neal and the baby
I think Garry lacks identity and genuinely doesn't know what he's doing. From copying McGregor 24/7 to being super fake and shifty to his opponents it just seems like he doesn't know what he wants to be as a fighter
If you haven’t figured it out all beef since Connor has been marketing.
His kid is there.. no need for all that
I think there's an element of real beef. The only reason i think that is because Ian was talking about MVP trying to buy info from his Gym. If Ian's lying MVP is probably at least a little pissed off about Ian lying about him. If Ian isn't,Ian has to be pissed off about that. But in any case MVP isn't going to come at Ian's baby
They are both just terrible smack talkers. Some people just can't talk smack no matter how hard they try.
Doesnt look like it
You never fought before if you don’t understand neutral territory like a literal baby. Some situations are like being on hotel grounds in John Wick how is that hard to grasp
Dude its probably ALL manufactured beef. It sells a show. Theyre performers at the end of the day.
Wasn't the video from before the presser? That's what I thought....
UFC fights are mostly a bunch of cartoon characters
Mvp could've been mcgregor levels of fame if he had simply flipped off and stone cold stunnerd Ian's baby right then and there
It’s obviously fake. 90% of the beefs are fake to sell shows
3 grown men crying over two people who fight for a living not be enemies for life, and it's a 16 minute video rofl
They Sell the Fight right… They Trash Talk to the Fighter Not the Human being behind it…
Espionage in pro sports is just expected for me. Just makes sense. Sun Tzu approves
Wonder how these guys feel about the Ian Garry/Neil Magney situation… surely they don’t side with Ian Garry, right?
Of course the one guy whose character fits what Colby talks crap about, doesn’t like what he says
If it was fake MVP would not walkout to that song that is humiliating for Ian Garry.
Cool, I like that assessment :)
Garry is like Colby he does all it for show bro, nothing he does is for real
Gary is cocky just like Conor but they are backing it up. Either believe in yourself or the opposite .. the opposite will get you zero results .
The beef is fake but I'll still be happy if MVP leaves Ian in a broken heap.
Is it EVER real is the question. And since the fights don't sell themselves...
Who would have thought...
Fake to sell more PPVs but Ian in general doesn't believe most of what he says. He's like a dork trying to be a villain idk.
Most MMA beefs are fake it’s all just to sell the fight
These talks are stupid and i hate that i have to guess whenever i click on a video if it is or not. Separate the two
MVP gonna make it look easy
Just started the video and seen the PC and BS clips, i see it as theres a time and a place just like when the bell ring the match starts, the hate and violence, when it rings to end the match, if someones on the ground the top guy (usually) picks him up, they hug, shake hands and congratulate each other, they dont carry the hate on afterwards, it stops right there
I think its entirely possible that the backstage niceness is fake.... Ian isn't a good person his wife probably made him take the kid over because she knew it would get views. Why is that being recorded? Because its intentional