Women college players HAVE to play 4 years to be eligible for the WNBA, men only have to play one. No one is going to the WNBA early…

@Defender78

3 ай бұрын

user-dw3jc - you are WRONG. Players have to be age 22 by their draft year, which might mean they will have had 4 years of college ball. International players must be 20. Research before you speak, don't mislead www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-lm&q=WNBA+elivbiblity+rules

@natelamb5779

2 ай бұрын

Bingo!!! Geez Dan……. Do some Homework please.

@msponsler1

2 ай бұрын

Really? That will change soon.

from the Philippines "a must see tv". great person "generational talent"

Jackie Stiles had a moment at the turn of the century. She embraced the imagination of the country. She became Rookie of the Year her first season in a league that wasn't invented when she claimed early in life that she would grow up to be a part of! These are moments in time. JS held the scoring record for 17 years! It will be interesting to see who will break CC's record. I'm convinced that female hasn't been born yet. It has been and will always be about the moment. Not the past nor the future. Everything great in this life, happens NOW! ENJOY NOW!🤙🏽❤️

You'll know it's a movement when Clark gets drafted and season ticket sales for that team are thru the roof. After-all...it's all about the bucks.

@mildredsrecipes3543

3 ай бұрын

You got it exactly right, friend.

@Heraclitean

3 ай бұрын

Maybe a Clark movement rather than a women's basketball movement.

@jimbickel4001

3 ай бұрын

@@Heraclitean Look...any additional interest is a big plus for the WNBA. I think current players may consciously or not step up their game. The WNBA is not the MNBA. But what Currie has done in his league can be as significant as Clark in her league.

@Heraclitean

3 ай бұрын

Clark might be a unicorn. Natural talent is the constraint on "stepping up one's game". I don't see Clark fandom translating into WNBA games in general drawing bigger crowds. It's like, national interest in the Cavs dried up real quick when Lebron left, and then when he left again. But you never know.@@jimbickel4001

@20Schmidt

3 ай бұрын

It will (Fever)

I have been a season ticket holder you to Iowa women's basketball ga,as since 2003 season and remember being happy with a couple thousand people in attendance on average with a really good Iowa team back than. They could have been better if not for injuries and transfees.nobody talks about this team that had dwb remedy briefly on our team before going closer to home after freshman year. She was Mrs basketball and was one of the best shooters I have ever seen. She was like Clark in several ways. She broke every naia national college record there was after transferring from here. She scored well over 3k points, and holds many records. Her free throw percentage record and others still stand I believe. I know it's a level down from division 1 but she was recruited by all the big names back than. Had she stayed she would have broke the ncaa scoring record. What could have been if she hadn't got home sick. Had a nasty step back 3 pointer. I the fan in me wants to belive this is a movement. To an extent it is. It's not black and white. It's somewhere in the middle or upper middle as women's sports in general are finally getting some of the eyeballs they deserve. I fear once Clark leaves here we won't be able to sustain the momentum she has built here and go the same way Oregon did or Washington did after loosing their once in a generation talents. I just hope all the bandwagon jumpers don't get harsh and stay around when we are rebuilding next year. It's funny because we have nobody healthy recruit wise or on our bench. No experience on the bench and she is in crutches. Incoming 5 star point guard guyton (Indiana men star aj guytons daughter) coming in with ACL. So next year will be tough and I expect a drop off. I hope the fans stick around and continue to sell the place out. That would shock me and make me happy if that continued. I remember going the games where we never competed for big ten titles going to the wnit and having 10-6 records in the big ten and having black curtains arou d the arena down to make it look full! I hope those days don't return.

Dan, there is an intangible which is never brought up in regards to the WNBA. There is no doubt Clark will have an effect on the future of the WNBA. But, where is the 'love' for her and the league in general? Of course some players are absolutely adored by fans of her team but it stops there. Someone has to come along who has to have wonderful basketball skills and relates to the fans in such a way the fans 'love her' and that love will begin to rub off on her team as a whole and fans for other teams will begin searching for players they can love, too. I loved Clyde Frazier and I loved the '69 Knicks! Only when that passion takes the WNBA by storm will it ever gain the popularity it needs to be truly successful. Is there a player who can carry such a load? A player who touches the hearts of fans from 'every team' because of 'who she is' as a person and a skilled basketball player? Yes, there is. Paige Bueckers. PLEASE, don't misunderstand me. This is not a comment comparing Clark to Bueckers. It's just that Paige has that 'something' and, you know what? The other players in the league will take notice how the fans react to her and they will begin to understand they are playing for the fans and without the fans supporting them passionately their chances for great success are slim.

Pearl Moore set the all-time scoring record for women's collegiate basketball with 4,061 points during her tenure at Division 2 Francis Marion College from 1975 to 1979.

@dreams2xs

3 ай бұрын

True, but Division 2 generally has lesser players, so if the best player in Division 1 played in Division 2, how much more could that player score?

@Sambone702

3 ай бұрын

Pearl Monroe is a worse player than every division 1 player who ever played.

I think lost in all the scoring talk was discussion about how good of a passer she is. I was happy to hear Dan talk about that. As for her career arc. I would guess that the WNBA might receive an immediate bump which will taper off. However, 6-10 years later when a fresh group of women, that have modeled their game(s) after hers join the league, it might really have a chance to take off

@Defender78

3 ай бұрын

great observation about CC impact. I wonder if he arrival in the league will bump up interest and attendance over all the twelve teams.. or just Indiana Fever's. I hope it wouldnt just be Caitlin home and away games raising the roof.

@marceybull

3 ай бұрын

@@Defender78 - I think JuJu and Angel and Fulwilliy and Hildago etc will add to it over the next few years if the WNBA can figure out a way to keep the momentum going before they get there in the meantime ...

@FlyYogi

3 ай бұрын

A thousand points and assists in a single season will always be a tough feat to accomplish. Only one person, male or female, has done it. Girlfriend can drop dimes better than anyone and has proved it her entire college career.

@shawngormley740

2 ай бұрын

No Defense!

Sorry to burst bubbles but it's definitely just a moment. Women's college basketball is not gonna suddenly become super popular year in and year out, and the WNBA certainly isn't gonna increase in popularity overall. Some might tune in to see Caitlin in the WNBA for a few games but the story is Caitlin, not women's basketball. She's transcended the sport for this magical moment in time and become mainstream

I will quote the Pistal himself: “I don’t like to compare one against another!”🏀

I travelled 40 miles to watch a girls high school basketball game to watch Toby Fournier, she's going to Duke next year. She's the 6'2" dunker.

What an exciting moment it has been. The womens final four was crazy good last year and the game continues to grow. Sadly it will expire with CC.

You guys need a polarizing filter to get rid of some of the reflections on Dan’s glasses. Yes I’m dumb for even noticing but once you see it

A lot of people marvel at Caitlin’s skills . And they’re in Aww and really why she’s a great talent .Mom Dad get your kids Involved early get them in AAU .Caitlins secret really not a secret ..it’s practice PRACTICE Dream and practice .and it’s Not The shoes it’s the HEART dedication sacrifice and if she can score 49 YOU can score 50 ..

So many great women's hoops players of the past that I hope get the light shined on them. Hopefully the attention to Clark will have people looking back on some greats pre 90's like Villanova's Shelly Pennefather who was basically Breanna Stewart before Breanna Stewart. No 3 point line and became the all time leader men or women in scoring at Villanova until a couple years ago. Look her up she was prolific.

Next year should be fun Paige is coming back with Azzi and Juju is going for CC records

High school boys basketball is more exciting to watch than women’s college or wnba. That says it all.

In order for it to grow, other players will have to be as good as Clark. Until the over all quality improves, it will remain the Clark show.

Ok media dont stop when she leaves its a lot of awesome players still in womens college basketball show them some love too not just the great white hopes

@iamgreatnow7218

3 ай бұрын

Good luck with that. These people are frauds. They'll forget about CC in three years.

@toddbrown242

3 ай бұрын

The "great white hopes" like Clark, Jokic and Doncic are the best players though

@TenaciousStudent

3 ай бұрын

The problem is, she is exciting in multiple facets and played at Iowa with average players. Take JuJu, she is a great scorer, but she does not elevate her team and really doesn’t pass. She can play defense, but defense isn’t a big crowd draw in basketball. There have been many high level scorers in women’s college basketball that haven’t gained the attention Caitlin has. Maybe Iowa’s media and marketing departments knocked it out of the park because they definitely did. The person that has the best chance from a passing perspective is Hidalgo. She has great court vision, but she doesn’t score/shoot like Caitlin. Caitlin has been this offensive dual threat elite player for 4 years. It is hard to copy/paste that with another player. These two talented freshman I listed also went to traditional powerhouses in USC and Norte Dame, not a above average or lower program. I’m a Hawkeye fan. I’d love to see Iowa continue to be improving in basketball, recruiting looks promising, but I think everyone expects attendance and viewership to drop off when the lighting rod moves to the next level. I think many of us feel the WNBA will find a way to screw up the situation with Caitlin too.

@harrykern616

3 ай бұрын

Jealous,lol

Clark and others have to stay 4 years before being WNBA eligible. The optional 5th covid year will expire for active players, so it won't have a long-term impact outside of next season.

Her fans will follow her and carver Hawkeye arena will not have as many fans present but more than they used.

I don't understand why the WNBA isn't more popular because these days it's literally the exact same game as the NBA. All they do is jack-up a ton of three-pointers, everything is out on the perimeter, very little defense &a fast paced style of play. That's the NBA & WNBA, if Embiid or Giannis aint playing the NBA game looks the same as most WNBA games; where it had always been about your skills; dribbles, pass, shoot &that's today's NBA in a nutshell as well

Pete did not take 42 shots per game He averaged 38 shots per game.

When a guy breaks the scoring record again, you won't say a word. 😅😅😅

@Silence_Duder_Gooder

2 ай бұрын

Or, they'll try to contextualize it, like they won't here.

@thatfunk

2 ай бұрын

No guy will be breaking the record as the best play maybe 2 years.

Unfortunately she is Jordan! I watched Jordan. If he was playing I tried to watch it! Hopefully we can get a Bird or Magic with her too!! I will watch her!

All the WNBA needs to do is lower the rim. But they won't.

@danpals7678

3 ай бұрын

I don't like that idea at all. The height obviously doesn't affect the good players. They already use a smaller ball.

@kdean30

3 ай бұрын

They need to lower the rim, change some rules, and make it exciting. Make it more like the Savanna Bananas or something.

@harrykern616

3 ай бұрын

And maybe they should up the mens to 11 feet. Would be less dunking, then we would see how good they are. Then we will also watch the scoring drop.

Please don't mention Clark in the same breath of Maravich. 3 years vs 4, no three point shot and Pete played against men.

@5thgen916

3 ай бұрын

Clark beat a record from the late 1960s. It's about time as scoring has become more prevalent the record was broken.

@svpst1

3 ай бұрын

@@5thgen916I just prefer records are compared apples to apples not apples and coffee.

@jasonh9696

3 ай бұрын

Pete chucked up 40 shots per game and played against 5'7" guys who just got out of math class 30 minutes prior.

@michaelbarrister429

3 ай бұрын

The "Pete played against men and Caitlyn played again women" argument is invalid. If Caitlyn were a man, then yes, her playing against women would matter. But she's not.

@steveg2448

3 ай бұрын

There is always this guy who need to be negative

Every season, the pool of excellent women’s basketball players increases. There are so many very talented players. Watching women’s basketball is getting more fun every year!!!!!

What a coincidence, I just had a m@@$##×! 😅😅😅😅😅😅

I hope it’s a movement.

Ponytail Pete!

Caitlin Clark did not pass Pete Maravich, because they are different leagues. When there's a single league that both men and women compete in, then we can compare records. That will never happen and it should never happen.

Remember 33 years ago when womens soccer was going to take off in popularity😅

I predict it is a moment. Kaitlin Clark is amazing and has captured the sports world's attention, but let's face it, the WNBA is not a viable "product" so I don't see this moment translating into a movement.

@FlyYogi

3 ай бұрын

She'll get hammered her first season. Resentment is a killer! CC should have stayed and given back what she was so freely given. I agree, it's only a moment.

@bradclifton5248

3 ай бұрын

Unless, Like Iowa, the WNBA establishment decide to get on the team and commit to being the best they can be. To develop, learn and grow. To quit if the are old, done or shit. To make room for the best players and coaches to take up positions. There will definitely be holdover. If caitlin can go rookie year to no1 in the league, there's a chance this becomes a movement.

@FlyYogi

3 ай бұрын

@@bradclifton5248 if my Aunt had balls, she'd be my Uncle. Even if she gets Rookie of the Year, it's always a moment! The dash between the dates on a tombstone represents a series of moments. Best YOU enjoy this moment! Pro tip: The moment is eternal.🤯

@bradclifton5248

3 ай бұрын

@@FlyYogi for the individu al that is true and, good advice. The question of a movement is when it's not the individual bur, a group of people, which may have individuals changing within it and, whether as a result there is significant cultural shift. Many stone age civilisations that exist even today, have gone largely unchanged for 10s of thousands of years. Others have moved very rapidly, most for the better, over the last 200 years. Movements require collectives to work together for the good, the beautiful and the free

@FlyYogi

3 ай бұрын

@@bradclifton5248 I hear you with both ears and in that context I would agree. In this dialogue we're speaking of an individual having a moment not a team or organization manifesting a movement. Individuals don't start movements. Individuals start trends. CC is a trend setter. I'm not casting shade I'm being clear on how I view this moment.

Paige already there

CC is the only reason I'm currently interested, when she gone, I'm gone....will never watch wnba. Probably on occasion, I will check the stats.

I’m not a fan of basketball, but I have been watching all the Iowa (Clark) games for the last 3 yrs. It’s a moment IMHO. The pros women game is a freak show, and I will not be watching the WBNA, nor would I expose my children the circus.

Why can't she play in the NBA?

I've luved the coverage here until THIS. NO, it is NOT all Clark/IA. IA broke open the door FOREVER for ALL women's college ball and many players AND new recognition of the great trailblazers. Sold out Big 10 Madness for ALL teams. IN WNBA is ALREADY at least x2 the ticket prices in anticipation of Clark. New TV. New promotion. Duh.

It’s been a fun ride and a wonderful period of time in sports for us to enjoy. But I have zero interest in watching the WNBA in the future and won’t follow women’s college basketball next year. I’ll check the box scores from time to time, at leave it at that.

What do you think is more likely...all of a sudden Caitlin Clarks' will just be everywhere and there will a revolutionary change to the women's game or there will continue to be a lot of average players and mediocre play which will render the sport pretty unwatchable?

The game was still really difficult to watch. I could go on about the attitudes of the players and how it often looks like a bunch of 8 year olds out there…. But then I watch some NBA games and it’s the same thing. Sports are going to get worse and worse until people name names on who runs the NCAA.

People dont watch the NBA like they used to. College hoops still has its fan base. The womens game only has college. Sadly its only a moment.

Dan, dude she didnt break any record. Cmon men. Now we are combining men and woman sport and their records

@Silence_Duder_Gooder

2 ай бұрын

If a male breaks a female record, no matter the sport, does the media ever bring it up? 🤔

I loved watching Caitlin Clark play basketball at Iowa too, but the WNBA is honestly a downgrade for her. Iowa women's basketball home games sold out all season for 2023-2024. WNBA games never get sold out, most of the wnba players either can't dunk or won't dunk, too many Wnba players complain too much, and to be honest alot of Wnba players aren't even attractive. That league also never brings in revenue, and has to strictly rely on the NBA for financial support.

Moment or movement? Depends on how the WNBA responds. I’v had no interest in the WNBA mostly because of the level of play, but also because of why I stopped watching NBA games (I was turned off by the overpaid whiners, especially the disingenuous claims of racism). If the WNBA properly welcomes CC and CC has memorable moments early on (e.g., outstanding passing and unheard of “Logo 3-pt” shots), then it could be a movement. Aside from years that the Lady Longhorns (my alma mater) were contenders, I rarely watched women’s college basketball, until the last couple of seasons (because of Paige Bueckers, which interest started a few years earlier when I became aware of Paige’s dominant skills in high school; if it weren’t for Paige, I might not have heard of Caitlin Clark before she broke the scoring record). But Caitlin captured my interest early this season because of her exciting play and how she made everyone around her better. CC’s 1st game at Iowa as a freshman was pretty interesting to watch, but hardly anybody saw it (the stands were empty). Now, Iowa sells out tickets at every game because of Caitlin Clark.

It's just a moment. She played against women.

Will she even win a NCAA Championship?

@dreams2xs

3 ай бұрын

A lot of great players have never won a NCAA Championship... Lebron, Larry Bird, Charles Barkely, I could go on...

Dan Lose all that clutter on your set

CC broke all the unwritten rules of women's basketball with her style of play. I don't know if it will work in the wnba. Her nonconformist approach may not be tolerated. She needs teammates that can run the floor. So many taller players are not fast enough to play at her pace.

Hannah Hildago Juju Watkins...Womens College Basketball will be just fine..its the Wnba that's still going.to be trash even with CC. I still have zero plans to watch it.

How they play is horrific, as a league. Total garbage.

The eyes will not follow her to the WNBA long term. The product isn't that good and very few players in the league connect with the fans like CC. She is one player on one team. She cannot carry an entire league.

Wnba will still be a flop.

There is no movement. No one is still going to watch the wnba. I’ve never met one person that watches the wnba.

@harrykern616

3 ай бұрын

Would rather watch that then the nba. Better team basketball then the men.