Is this 2024's best bike? KTM 1390 Super Duke R Evo review

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Despite being called a 'technical refresh', the KTM 1390 SuperDuke R does feel a step on from the third-gen 1290 model. Join me as I poke around the new electronics, check out the riding position and all that good stuff - but mostly, find out why I think this is one of the best all-round bikes on sale right now. Can it tour? Can it excite? I think you know the answers, but watch the video anyway… because this bike is mega.
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  • @Dan-56
    @Dan-56Ай бұрын

    Well, I have a lifetime total of 15 KTM’s, (Yes, I have motorcycle addiction.), 7 of which had either electronic or mechanical problems while still in warranty, the last two had more problems than a two year old discount store string of Christmas lights. I swore off KTM, said never again…….then I spotted a “good deal” on a “left over”….and I couldn’t resist 😆. So far 🤞 no issues. And yes I know…..”The very definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results” 😆😆😆guilty 🤪!

  • @cuzimaluzer777

    @cuzimaluzer777

    Ай бұрын

    I've owned 4. 2 had issues that were taken care of under warranty and to be honest the 2014 1190 adventure S was probably the best bike I've ever owned, but it had issues. Currently own a 2021 890 duke and a 2023 1290 SAS. Both of those have been flawless and I give them unrepentant flogging.

  • @Noony79

    @Noony79

    Ай бұрын

    I had one. The clock would gain 5 mins a week. They knew about it but never bothered to fix it.

  • @512460

    @512460

    Ай бұрын

    So moral of the story only buy ktm new with warranty

  • @user-cn8vb9hh5z

    @user-cn8vb9hh5z

    27 күн бұрын

    I've had a 690 smcr and a 1290sdgt and the only problems I've had have been some sticky switches and problems from a dead battery, both on the GT. The 690 never fails. Both are hilarious fun

  • @LambChopRides
    @LambChopRidesАй бұрын

    Enjoyed that Tim 👌

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you lovely!

  • @Neutronb0mb
    @Neutronb0mbАй бұрын

    Thanks for bringing back all my Grandma / Pegging related trauma.

  • @bl0r

    @bl0r

    Ай бұрын

    I can’t tell if this is positive or negative feedback

  • @thisisatestoftheemer
    @thisisatestoftheemerАй бұрын

    Excellent review as always! I've had my 1290 Evo for a year now and it's still my favorite bike, I like the new headlight and radiator cowl on the 1390 but don't love the missing brake light and weird new turn signal mount. I still wanna try one, though. For anyone else interested in KTM, if you wait til the end of the year, they generally slash a *lot* off prices. It pays to wait a bit.

  • @dalemeadows225
    @dalemeadows225Ай бұрын

    Very funny review, Tim 😂

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Cheers Dale!

  • @Steve-motorcycles
    @Steve-motorcyclesАй бұрын

    Great review. However, the almost £6k premium on the 1290SDR and that headlight will mean I won’t be trading my 1290sdr soon. I will just have to cope with the underpowered 180hp and 140nm of torque. (possibly a little more since I changed the stock exhaust and had a remap) The electronics seem better though

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    How will you cope though without the extra 5 torques?!

  • @Cartsp70

    @Cartsp70

    Ай бұрын

    I’m half Austrian and I still wouldn’t buy it, it’s ugly af and it’s probably gonna break down after 100 miles… I’ll pass

  • @Steve-motorcycles

    @Steve-motorcycles

    Ай бұрын

    @@Cartsp70 😂😜

  • @TheValbunnys

    @TheValbunnys

    Ай бұрын

    Underpower calm down moto Gp champion 🤣🤣

  • @Steve-motorcycles

    @Steve-motorcycles

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheValbunnys 😂😂

  • @dean-does-stuff-81
    @dean-does-stuff-81Ай бұрын

    a bargain.... I for one love that head light.... I love the KTM looks and I love orange... Its a yes for me....

  • @gerryryan2302
    @gerryryan2302Ай бұрын

    Yup id be terrified to ride it

  • @user-tc6kf3we2p

    @user-tc6kf3we2p

    Ай бұрын

    Mate. The only v twin on the market that can do round town so smoothly. Well engineered.

  • @brucekendall52
    @brucekendall52Ай бұрын

    Fantastic motor for sure.

  • @theoldskoolboyzzzz6958
    @theoldskoolboyzzzz6958Ай бұрын

    be picking mine up in couple of weeks from fowlers, in goes the tuono, i had gen 3 sdr miss it like crazy especially 2 up riding with the insane wife 🤣💪

  • @TBiker000
    @TBiker000Ай бұрын

    I purchased the 2023 non evo with 4 x year warranty. Some good deals to be had. Had no issues so far and have the four year warranty for peace of mind. I did test the Evo and to be honest kept my cash instead. Let's see how the new 1390 settles in but if looking good in a year or so perhaps I will trade this one in or sale on. Great for the next buyer (and easier to re-sale) as they will still have a nice chunk of warranty.

  • @marksmith8663
    @marksmith8663Ай бұрын

    Think you notice a step up back to back with gen 3 . Nice to see they put pitches to show slip control. I can never remember if 1-9 max or min . Great review 👍

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    From memory 1 is scary, 9 is boring 😂 Or is it the other way around…

  • @mostrov6
    @mostrov6Ай бұрын

    Great review..... I'm biased as a M1000R owner, in that i prefer the look and the toys of the BMW. The M1000R also feels light in tipping into corners. Agree that nothing beats the instant torque of the Duke's twin setup.

  • @robertmiazek2926
    @robertmiazek2926Ай бұрын

    Thanks Tim! Great review. Keep it up. For some reason you remind me of Jeremy Clarkson 😂 Just a younger version of him 😂😂

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Haha, I'll take that as a compliment. I get the comparison a lot as if I'm pretending to be him… it's just how I talk.

  • @mattmutane5502
    @mattmutane5502Ай бұрын

    Based on a few comments now about the slowness of handling of your MT10, perhaps you should try what I have done...? Firstly, Darren at MCT told me not to raise the ride height as that causes traction issues, so firstly, "better" suspension can help (but you've already got that part pretty sorted with the SP). What I have done, is drop the forks through the yokes as much as you can, which is 20mm. This makes the steering noticeably quicker and the bike more nimble, and the trade-off in stability I don't think is too bad, and certainly worth it IMO!! Give it a try and see what you think!!?? ;) :) :D On the 1390, great video, as per usual, thanks!! ;) :) :D :D

  • @HarryCallahan-tf3qr
    @HarryCallahan-tf3qr18 күн бұрын

    You'd have to win the Lottery to be able to Afford a bike like that.

  • @morry27jd24
    @morry27jd2424 күн бұрын

    I was leaning towards the M1000R, now I’m leaning the other way again lol. Good honest review.

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    15 күн бұрын

    I need to try another M1000R I think - I toured on one and really didn't gel with it...

  • @morry27jd24

    @morry27jd24

    14 күн бұрын

    @@timrodierides currently on a ZX10 but the wrists and back can’t take it anymore being over 50 years old. I’ve seen both bikes in the flesh but there’s something about the rebellious nature and torque figure of the KTM that excites me.

  • @BN1960
    @BN1960Ай бұрын

    Cor, that's a spicy pricey!

  • @user-oi7vx1in5x
    @user-oi7vx1in5xАй бұрын

    Waiting for the GT

  • @michaelmclean1863
    @michaelmclean1863Ай бұрын

    Hi Tim, have a 22 1290 with all the trimmings. Is it worth upgrading from that?

  • @andreasonwheels
    @andreasonwheelsАй бұрын

    I'm 193 myself as well and i never saw a naked where it looke okish... now this looks okish :O I'm impressed

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    It's a really nice size for taller people, but not too tall for medium-size people

  • @andreasonwheels

    @andreasonwheels

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodierides and since you tried already so many Bikes, what are the best nakeds/sportsbikes for ppl of our height in your opinion? I mean SAS is more comfy, for sure, but I'm looking for something lighter and more sporty also

  • @robbiemcbeath6628
    @robbiemcbeath662829 күн бұрын

    I've had two gen 3s, no way I'd ever ride anything else! 💥

  • @claqyagami6914
    @claqyagami6914Ай бұрын

    06:07 info we def did not need to know Tim!😏

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    A man can dream

  • @AndrewLane-pm2ro
    @AndrewLane-pm2ro2 күн бұрын

    The problem with big twins is they're very clunky at low revs. I find this worst on roundabouts, where you need to smooth things out with the clutch.

  • @gurdipaujla7939
    @gurdipaujla7939Ай бұрын

    Thinking of getting a used one of these, (Feb-Apr 2025) once they've come down in price a bit. Predominantly road riding (UK) with a bit of track use... I do wonder whether staying in 2nd and 3rd the whole time on B-road twisties would become a little, well, unfulfilling.

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Oh you can put it in fourth and still have lots of accidental fun! I'm with you on getting a lightly used one next year. Would love one... can't afford one though!

  • @RacerJuan42
    @RacerJuan42Ай бұрын

    Fingers crossed that the new engine proves to have minimal teething issues in the first couple of production years.

  • @Neutronb0mb
    @Neutronb0mbАй бұрын

    What made you go for your new MT10 over the old 1290R Tim? Just fancied a change after the SAS?

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, it was that plus to be honest a KTM was a lot more money to insure (we're talking £2000ish), the MT10 was £500. I still want to own a SuperDuke at some point though.

  • @Neutronb0mb

    @Neutronb0mb

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodieridesinsurance is a strange old beast. Especially anywhere near london

  • @daimonmt

    @daimonmt

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@timrodieridesThe big insurance difference is not due to power, especially given that the KTM is made in Europe. It is because of reliability claims. A great indicator before buying a bike

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    @@daimonmt I'm not so sure, my KTM 1290 SAS was one of the cheapest bikes to insure I've ever owned!

  • @DaleMt09sp
    @DaleMt09spАй бұрын

    People seem to be forgetting the v4s and just doing vids of the m1000r and the 1390 when bikeworld did a drag race that v4 smashed everything even the zh2

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    I've ridden the SFV4 a fair bit and always want to love it… but struggle. It feels too serious, and then you're going too fast by the time it really comes alive. Quite good on track though!

  • @DaleMt09sp

    @DaleMt09sp

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodierides people keep going on about the torque of the 1390 as well but whenever I’ve seen it against the m1000r it gets a slight jump then reeled in like it’s tied to a stump

  • @MH-xd2nd
    @MH-xd2ndАй бұрын

    The police rang. They’ve asked me to tell you to drop your licence off at your local station. You won’t be needing it for a few months 😂

  • @mrkang4080
    @mrkang4080Ай бұрын

    The SDR1 was pretty sloppy, the SDR2 is when things started to really come together, the SDR3 was the refinement needed and this new model is perfection. I've owned 2 of the 3 models to date... I plan to make it 3/4.

  • @512460
    @512460Ай бұрын

    Sooo. Tim this or your beloved mt10

  • @davmanlop333
    @davmanlop333Ай бұрын

    So much fun but also so much money 😂

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    What price fun though? About £4000 on an original Street Triple to be honest

  • @tonydare7614
    @tonydare7614Ай бұрын

    Subscribed for the burp

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Hahaha, I'd had my stomach contents lightly massaged by a few dodgy wheelies

  • @tonydare7614

    @tonydare7614

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodierides 🤣

  • @Noony79
    @Noony79Ай бұрын

    What is pegging?

  • @tubejorrit
    @tubejorritАй бұрын

    can't wait for a street fighter v4s comparison from you

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    I do need to try one again…

  • @FourIntoOne
    @FourIntoOneАй бұрын

    As much as I would like there is no way that I can own (or even test ride) a bike like this. I would be in jail with a VERY long tariff and no chance of parole within a week of taking delivery. 👍

  • @specialized500
    @specialized500Ай бұрын

    Powerul bikes without wind protection are rich boys toys .

  • @jeffy3964
    @jeffy3964Ай бұрын

    You never mentioned the M1000R for its competition!! M1000R is the best hyper bike out there..

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    I mentioned it briefly in the outro. But yes, the KTM defecates on it from a great height in my opinion. Not a fan of the bar vibes and power delivery of the M1000R on the road. It’s also a super wristy riding position. I took an M1000R around Europe for 1200 miles last year and we really didn’t bond

  • @jeffy3964

    @jeffy3964

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodierides like you said thats your opinion but again I disagree, I rode both and both great bikes but I preferred the MR1000 and I didn’t feel the vibration enough to let it bother me at all.. so we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    @@jeffy3964 Oh absolutely! And I think BMWs are pretty variable when it comes to vibes. The one I had killed a GoPro and a Garmin sat-nav that I had mounted to the bars. As in dead, had to be RMAd.

  • @brianglendenning1632

    @brianglendenning1632

    Ай бұрын

    @@jeffy3964I think some people notice vibes more than others. I have an s1000r and have never noticed the vibes, but it does generate vibes as I have had watch brackets and iPhone camera stabilisers damaged by the vibes. Perhaps Tim is just a sensitive young chap?

  • @volodymyrshoniia2424
    @volodymyrshoniia2424Ай бұрын

    I better get my sausage out for this

  • @Roger_Ramjet
    @Roger_RamjetАй бұрын

    You will gave 150,000 subs before you know it... 👍

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    That'd be lovely. A man can dream (and spout nonsense along the way)

  • @Roger_Ramjet

    @Roger_Ramjet

    Ай бұрын

    ​@timrodierides keep being you! Cheers from Boston!

  • @dw88241
    @dw88241Ай бұрын

    What’s happened to the KTM dealer network? All the dealers anywhere near Portsmouth (except Trevor Pope) keep going either going bankrupt or dropping KTM for other manufacturers.

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Oh interesting! I hadn't noticed, but my local dealer is huuuuge (P&H in Crawley). Not sure who's best on the south coast, sorry…

  • @inked-96
    @inked-96Ай бұрын

    Don't get me wrong, I like a big powerful bikes as much as the next guy, but it's pointless for the UK roads.. with how shit our roads are, the increase in static n mobile cameras, and the speed limits being lowered. It's a pointless bike for the road unless it's for track use or for waving their knobs about at bike meets/online. 😂

  • @ballerblocks

    @ballerblocks

    Ай бұрын

    Where I live in Essex, there are no cameras, or there were cameras until them boys started to paint and lob them off.😊

  • @daveo9844

    @daveo9844

    Ай бұрын

    Your loss 🍻

  • @robmance1611
    @robmance1611Ай бұрын

    Fitten fronte tyren nein needenich das powerplanten ist wunderbar!

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Genau! Perfekt!

  • @robmance1611

    @robmance1611

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodierides haha cheers! Great review so many ‘Fark en ell’s, quality!

  • @alfie6426
    @alfie6426Ай бұрын

    I'm seriously tempted by this even though I think it's hideous 😂

  • @Banditmanuk
    @BanditmanukАй бұрын

    Every time I get marginally tempted on a bonkers KTM, I see yet another KZread vid saying what a reliability nightmare their KTM has been (Latest is Crazy Legs on a bike) Not a chance I would trade my super reliable MT10 for one.

  • @davidcolin6519
    @davidcolin6519Ай бұрын

    I really don't get the "problem" of the engine sound. Personally, I absolutely LOVE the sound of a big V twin, ANY big V twin, and the bigger the capacity, the better. Of course, I'll draw the line at H-Ds, but I even like the sound of Indians. I know that loads of people rant about the sound of Trumpet Triples, but I'll still choose a big V. As for UJMs and V4s, meh.

  • @Ryan46
    @Ryan46Ай бұрын

    You're a great bike reveiwer, just stay away from my grandmother please.

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Haha thank you. I'll stay away (unless she's giving out Haribo, in which case I can't be responsible for my actions)

  • @otlndsh
    @otlndshАй бұрын

    Now imagine if KTM had the quality and reliability of Japanese bikes. One can always dream.

  • @brianglendenning1632

    @brianglendenning1632

    Ай бұрын

    Even the reliability of a Tuono would be a step up…

  • @aurimerand1142

    @aurimerand1142

    16 күн бұрын

    I had 2 ktm superduke....never had a pb

  • @brianglendenning1632
    @brianglendenning1632Ай бұрын

    “Peg you with it”…

  • @FirstLast-ue6zu
    @FirstLast-ue6zuАй бұрын

    So much fun until something breaks down and the ktm starts to fuck you up for asking for help

  • @helgejohan3604
    @helgejohan3604Ай бұрын

    Hate the new front🤮like the rest but too much🤑

  • @velcrofishsticks6002
    @velcrofishsticks6002Ай бұрын

    Can't wait for the cam shaft to turn into deformed junk after 10k miles on this bad boy!

  • @DaleMt09sp

    @DaleMt09sp

    Ай бұрын

    As long as 10k ? 😂

  • @leehiggins6468
    @leehiggins6468Ай бұрын

    Diavel v4

  • @izmesamsung2581
    @izmesamsung2581Ай бұрын

    Get your mug out of the visibles and I might watch it....

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    huh

  • @daraphys
    @daraphysАй бұрын

    Warum haben wir zu einem Vorderreifen gepasst? ... do I win something?

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    You win 10 Tim Rodie points. They're redeemable at all chinese takeaways

  • @daraphys

    @daraphys

    Ай бұрын

    @@timrodierides You're a gent 😂

  • @stubbk3
    @stubbk3Ай бұрын

    KTM there is no place on the road for a 200bhp sports bike---------also KTM here is the 1390

  • @paulhope3401

    @paulhope3401

    Ай бұрын

    That's why they gave it only 190bhp. 😂

  • @timrodierides

    @timrodierides

    Ай бұрын

    Austrian maths

  • @TheJoker-gg8hc
    @TheJoker-gg8hcАй бұрын

    It's not a supersport bike, so no, it's not the best. Next.

  • @Rik448
    @Rik448Ай бұрын

    Too bad they’re unreliable

  • @JinKazama92

    @JinKazama92

    Ай бұрын

    that is such bs.

  • @GC-xy2ec
    @GC-xy2ecАй бұрын

    Ugliest bike ive ever seen 😮

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