If I sound too bullish on nuclear power and downplaying nuclear disasters, it's because I go up against the arguments every single day, and it can get frustrating. I apologize. Happy to wrangle brain cats whenever you need me bois. This was fun.

@alexanderescalante6163

Ай бұрын

This was a very weird podcast because of how serious you were, whereas the boys were poking fun of everything, but I'm really impressed how you were able to handle it. You shouldn't apologize for speaking your mind, especially in this podcast. I'm pretty sure this community of ""engineers"" understands you very well.

@TigerAceSullivan

Ай бұрын

nah, this is exactly how anyone would expect you to respond to this conversation lmao

@kylehill

Ай бұрын

@@alexanderescalante6163 thank you alexander

@TigerAceSullivan

Ай бұрын

vibes of me at work desperately trying to get prep done while my coworkers having an admittedly fun time off to the side

@Blast_HardCheese

Ай бұрын

I just enjoyed watching your migraine blossom in the Indian giver segment

The gang: Their usual bullshit. Kyle: Losing his sanity and will to live.

God I relate to kyles struggle with matching the mood so much, the boys swap between irony and seriousness like they're playing with a lightswitch

@RealBradMiller

27 күн бұрын

The light switches in The Sink from New Vegas would love this lot. 😂

the most american answer ever. "how much space does x take" "about 3 walmarts"

@freezedTIM

Ай бұрын

Americans will use any other mode of measurement except for metric. (Speaking from my own experience)

@randomnpc445

Ай бұрын

Wal Marts Football Fields Hamburgers The trifecta of American analogies

this is legitimately like seeing your science teacher at a strip club

@kylehill

Ай бұрын

lol

@patrikvajgel240

Ай бұрын

Twice.

@DSTrystanJ

Ай бұрын

Speaking from experience?

@asronome

Ай бұрын

Straight up "jorking it"

@D3epBlueSea

Ай бұрын

You used the word “legitimately” wrong

i thought kyle hill was already on an episode. Are you trying to tell me that people are actually willing come back after realizing what this podcast is??

@Tunkkis

Ай бұрын

They've had the British guy on twice.

@kylehill

Ай бұрын

it's a tactical risk, to be sure

@NolieRavioli

Ай бұрын

@@kylehill my favorite part is when you said "Nah, its like Jeff bezos and Backyard Scientist are fuckin ur wife, Will"

@OperationDarkside

Ай бұрын

You never know, that happens after the cameras are off.

I love that the reoccurring bit of the multi-conversation where whoever is talking to the guest has to explain that it's a bit, and they know it makes bad content but they do it anyways

@RedHotMessResell

Ай бұрын

Haha this time it went on extra long, and I was like “alright alright… move on.” 😂😂😂 but I still laughed

@un7n0wing85

Ай бұрын

As long as they put the audio in each ear, I can almost follow both conversations. I get completely lost when the audio is mixed though. Its a fun challenge to see how long I can follow both.

listening to this podcast on speakers instead of headphones makes the simultaneous conversation bit WAY harder to follow lol

@InsanityPlusOne

Ай бұрын

I imagine once I finish unpacking in the new flat and add the 7.1 speakers instead of stereo it'll be real weird.

@specificocean9490

Ай бұрын

i wear one earbud and swap when it dies, so usually my audio is mono. I entirely tune out and ignore whenever they do the dumb talking over each other shit. I have no clue what they said during it, and dont really care.

@knigo7967

Ай бұрын

@@specificocean9490 bruh what earbuds are you using, i easilly get through a day (when im at work but still) with like 20% charge (without them recharging from the charging case) also that is like one of the best bits on the podcast eddit: with anc on too

@blacksmokerise

Ай бұрын

@@InsanityPlusOne can confirm. dolby atmos 5.2.1 setup. Cant understand a damn thing. Muted one channel at a time and replayed it though lol

It's always a pleasure to hear Kyle talk and BTW at 29:43 that change is because a bearded Thor decided to give lectures like a friendly and funny teacher that cared about the topic at hand without being condescending to people. So of course, young people's perception would change. As for your bullishness believe me when I say, you have the patience of a Saint when arguing with people

@devanimations638

26 күн бұрын

Kyle the Thor we needed

the "glowing goo" trope, if I recall correctly, came from glowing radium paint which was radioactive, toxic AF, and mixed up in big vats in factories to paint instrument panels in naval vessels (esp subs) during the war, before making it's way onto watch faces by way of poisoned women...

@Millers-Mausoleum

Ай бұрын

And compass needles. Keep that in your pocket 👨🏻‍🔬

@lady_draguliana784

Ай бұрын

@@Millers-Mausoleum yep, for a while they were putting it on EVERYTHING, there were even proposals to put it on things that weren't shielded by glass, like gun-sights.. which they decided against NOT due to the danger of toxicity and radiation poisoning, but because the glow couldn't be turned off so would give them away in the night.

@Millers-Mausoleum

Ай бұрын

@@lady_draguliana784 yeah, they wanted to hide it. Learning about the radium girls was enlightening and I don’t mean to make a pun.

@lady_draguliana784

Ай бұрын

@@Millers-Mausoleum Yep, It's in my mental bank of "remember what corporate goons are willing to do for money" right along with "People don't change"... They'd be doing it still if they'd gotten away with it.

@Millers-Mausoleum

Ай бұрын

@@lady_draguliana784 just like right now corporate goons and politicians are embezzling money through Ukraine, but you use that as a profile picture

Tim Cain, the creator of fallout has a youtube channel talking about gamedesign and the games. Aaaaand he gives interviews and lives in California so please for the love of god get him on the show

@JonathanRossRogers

Ай бұрын

Here's his playlist of over 70 videos about making Fallout: kzread.info/head/PLI8W_yHW-3DWkSU6mCX4tqyuewz6cK3G-&si=BBZXnYzI5okXPBQB

58:00 Kyle asking himself why in the hell he came back onto this podcast

@trevorlebert1929

Ай бұрын

im only 12 minutes in and im seeing it

If you didn’t watch the Fallout show with subtitles - you’re missing out, i. e., [Brain-on-a-roomba] 🤣

@zell9058

Ай бұрын

You are correct, Brain on a roomba got a big laugh from me and the Mrs

"flock of bees" wouldn't that be a swarm?

@Tunkkis

Ай бұрын

Not anymore it's not.

@michaelmoorrees3585

Ай бұрын

They slander Jane Goodall, last week, so you think a little detail like swarm vs flock, is going to phase them !? Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

@MickySarge

Ай бұрын

Flock is better.

Nothing better than starting my birthday work day with 3 nerds and the guy that plays thor.

@OperationDarkside

Ай бұрын

Science Thor, to be specific.

Solution: splatoon style competition between nuclear powers, the arenas are all non-nuclear powers

@jeffgoldblunt

Ай бұрын

You, my friend, have invented proxy wars

@batt3ryac1d

Ай бұрын

Just go to some random desert like they do in DBZ and fucking duke it out world leader v world leader.

Dear Lord! 😂 I did not expect his video to start with two grown men analyzing and critiquing the validity of a racist term while the other two walked them to the conclusion: "It ISN'T valid. That's WHY it's racist" 💀

@therancidpizzabox2977

Ай бұрын

I thought that whole time Kevin and will were arguing that the white man is the one who is giving to the Indian and then taking it away. So “Indian giver” disparages the white man not the native. But no, they were just oblivious lol

@northerncricket5199

Ай бұрын

@@therancidpizzabox2977they really went the route of arguing shit isn’t about poop, it’s actually a short form of shiitake and is definitely nothing to do with dung.

@jaxynhenderson257

Ай бұрын

It's just a shame that "Inuit" was still used the as generalization of Native Alaskans. But I still appreciate the effort they took to get William to stop comparing "Eskimo Brothers" to "Cleveland Steamer"

@budgroweryt9947

Ай бұрын

It's not racist, from a native American.

This is the ONLY podcast where 2 conversations go on for soooo long. Love it. My brain was melting.

Alen's logic on having more nuclear disasters is f*cking twisted, but what scares me is that it kindda makes some sense, sort of. Still a terrible idea though, and almost certainly wouldn't work

@ziglaus

12 күн бұрын

It would only work if we didn't have any alternatives once it started happening. We only tolerate car accidents because we have no alternatives in terms of comfort and practicality

@jinolin9062

8 күн бұрын

@@ziglaustrains 🤫 🧏

one of the best things about this podcast is that i dont have to skip sponsors or the intro because you dont have either :)

I love how the podcast just gets more chaotic over time.

@babch0

Ай бұрын

they peaked at ep 30 tbh (and are still the same quality, as in good until now)

It was worth watching the whole episode just for Kyle's Gollum impression.

@boneappletee6416

Ай бұрын

What's the timestamp?

Goddammit, Will. NU-CLEAR. NUUUUU-CLEARRRRR.

@Verchiel_

Ай бұрын

Nu Metal NU METAL

@tristinyaeger9222

Ай бұрын

Literally the whole episode I was annoyed by the constant nucular

The mental image of Nile Red ripping a chicken in half is permanently burned into my brain... thanks guys

I can't imagine Kyle as a ghoul, but I can imagine him as one of those rare genius supermutans like Virgil.

Ive been watching those episodes of mythbusters on that indian channel LOL. The official Mythbusters channel is now running them as well, just different seasons

@CYDeviant

Ай бұрын

There is no official channel lol, it's all just some dude in india. They're starting to get blocked in the US.

Get cody'slab as a guest please.

@goose_memes

Ай бұрын

He's gonna bring a bucket of mercury with him

@viola_case

Ай бұрын

He said he wouldn't be on

@devamjani9423

Ай бұрын

​@@viola_caseWhere and when?

@Suninrags

Ай бұрын

​@@viola_case gonna share with the class?

@ajofmars2579

Ай бұрын

@@viola_case I also would like to know, as Cody’sLab is one of my if not my favorite creator on KZread, and think it would be great to see him on Safety Third.

This podcast has a preset amount of seriousness allowed, whenever the guest is too serious, the hosts get silly to compensate

I think people are underestimating how powerful the Photoshop AI tools are. There's a real picture as a base and a handful of AI generated bits added. It gets so much harder to tell that it's AI when 90% of the picture is real.

it doesnt help that boeing whistleblowers "mysteriously" die of illness the day before a court hearing.

I live near Soudan, Minnesota. There's an underground mine there that's been closed since the 60s, but was donated to the State of Minnesota, and they run tours of the historical mine operations. Also, the U of M and some other scientific organizations built a neutrino detector in a giant cavern at the bottom level of the mine, half a mile underground. A neutrino beam was shot through the ground at the detector, from Chicago if I remember right? The experiment was to figure out if neutrinos have mass. But they chose that particular place because of the depth of the mine and the fact that all of the equipment is working and well-kept. The lab was deep enough that it was completely insulated from cosmic radiation.

Kyle was literally me this entire episode oml guys

@tristinyaeger9222

Ай бұрын

Same.

Ghoul William is not real, he can't hurt you. Ghoul William on the thumbnail;

Thank you guys for FINALLY getting the hottest science youtuber, Kevin, on the show!!

@dweeep03

Ай бұрын

i didn't see Nigel

@babch0

Ай бұрын

​@@dweeep03go a few eps back, just squint a bit

@kylehill

Ай бұрын

adding this to my bio

he's too good at mimicking character voices for the nuclear guy on youtube almost like someone can make anti anti-nuclear-propaganda PR videos with mickey explaining how safe nuclear is

I think William misinterpreted a saying that BMW Drivers "don't have turn signals" as them actually not having turn signals. They very much do (it's required by law) but it's a meme/stereotype that BMW Drivers don't use their turn signals.

@michaellewis483

15 күн бұрын

I drive for work and they never signal. They live the stereotype. But then again half of people don't signal so confirmation bias?

@cakeservant

15 күн бұрын

@@michaellewis483 well i didn't say that they do :)

On the driving topic, I think it's 'funny' that Minnesota has issued a new program where state troopers are trying to cut down on speeding on rural roads; meanwhile, all major highways have recently been bumped up to 60 mph. Now people drive 70 mph on highways, many of which are rural. Like, how is that program going to be successful? **major eye roll** Meanwhile, a hill I will die on is that I think the US needs to re-evaluate drivers every 10-15 years. Written and/or practical exams. Don't pass, you pay a fine or lose your license, etc. Granted, haven't figured out how to keep those that have lost their license from still driving. Also provide more services for the elderly to get places so that they don't HAVE to drive starting at 65. The US has huge swaths of the country that doesn't have public transportation and that really impacts the number of people that have to drive when they probably shouldn't.

The comment on Germany is somewhat funny, because when germany stopped their nuclear power plants, the proportion of coal and gass increased. This in essence seems to imply that germany believes it can go of nuclear, but in reality they aren't able

I fired up fo4 and started this podcast at the same time. It gave me one of those SPECIAL intro videos and I just sat through it while you guys did the tow mics thing. It was like trying to watch something in a dorm room while both your roommates have friends over and are having two separate conversations.

Watched this to feel better, ended up feeling much worse.

@cruze_the

Ай бұрын

did you see kyle's golem impression at the end?

@faxthing

Ай бұрын

@@cruze_the that was pretty fire

He knows Tastosis. A real man of culture.

It’s easier to knock a system out of balance than it is to put that system back into balance

I love the fact that we got the fallout representation.

Can someone make a compilation of just Allen laughing throughout?

i’m a high school senior and pretty much everyone i’m friends with is extremely pro-nuclear for pretty rational reasons, not just because we’re stupid contrarian high schoolers lmao

not even three minutes in and they already split into two gangs talking about their own things

This is the only podcast I’ve ever seen where there were 2 completely separate conversations happing at the same time for over a minute😂😂

42:53 I remember there was some movement where some old Japanese people decided to volunteer for clean up at Fukushima, for that exact reason

thank you so much for splitting the audio i really missed it

I know that everyone talks shit about this podcast but as a kyle hill fan this is probably my favorite interview

Why does it feel like Kyle Hill being on S3 is like when a TV show removes or replaces a character for another random one in the main cast is him with Nigel

absolutely love Walton in everything I have seen him in and glad to see him in a more leading roll, he's pretty much always been a supporting actor, which he is here but its much more up front. he feels like one of those people who could play strange rolls that only he could do, like Depp and Jack Sparrow type of thing but for him it's cowboys.

My favorite type of podcast is when everyone talks at the same time

I know it's the bit, but I feel like I listen to half the podcast now that they just talk over each other, I used to not skip through them but 😂

@babch0

Ай бұрын

thats the point, you put one side of your headphones away for the while and then go back, also you dont have much coherent things to listen to even normally lol

@brokenfone

Ай бұрын

​O my gosh I didn't actually realize they are giving us twice as much content for the same price 😂​@@babch0

@jrocmagoo

Ай бұрын

They always talked over each other it's part of the podcast

@Lujeca

Ай бұрын

It’s completely comprehensible if you have headphones, it’s pretty hype

@noodlelynoodle.

Ай бұрын

​@@Lujecaeven on phones a lot of them have stereo sound now, like I can hear one channel out of my main speaker and the other out of the one you have next to your ear for phone calls

kyle is the perfect guest for this podcast

I love the chaotic energy of this podcast so much, I think it's my literally my favorite podcast ever

Steamboat Willy is still protected by trademark. Disney made it part of their official logo, so they could protect it for eternity.

It might make sense to drop the word nuclear from nuclear power plants. Just call them fission/fusion power plants or something like that.

This is, without a doubt, my favorite podcast. I have watched every episode since it started and loved every single one

@Kylehill I really appreciated your seriousness about all of the ai and nuclear talk. I am curious, how do you manage thinking about all of these huge existential threats to society? It feels so easy to sink into denial about the problems/ turning a blind eye/ a depression that nothing can be fixed because everything is outside of our control. I think I am generally an optimistic person, but it is very sobering when I am directly confronted with these facts that are true... anyways, great episode, hope to meet you at Open Sauce! Thank you for all you do.

@Verchiel_

Ай бұрын

It's a hard term to sell but just Try to be realistic Acknowledge the good and the bad, don't deny the potential future atrocities while not forgetting that positive things also exist. Choosing what to care about also helps. Your life takes priority, you might not be able to convince the world nuclear energy is a good road to head towards, but you can certainly work on your health and wealth. The healthier and wealthier you are, the easier it is to make an impact in the world. I don't recall the term but there's a way of thought adjacent to nihilism, which dictates that life doesn't have an inherit purpose and nothing really matters, so you should just take in the pleasures of life and do as much stuff as you can for the fun of it. There are plenty of avenues you can look towards to help ease existential dread. Or watch some kurzgesagt videos if you feel like indulging in it instead.

I grew up in the early 80s and the term indian giver was used a lot. As was said the meaning was that someone is taking back something that was previously gifted or sold. In elementary school, long before learning the colonizer version of manifest destiny, but right after the heroic bloodless version of Columbus "discovering" America, the veiw of Native Americans was built on the offensively biased and grossly oversimplified story of the first thanksgiving where the Disney Peter Pan style "Indians" welcomed the pilgrims and gave them food and later gave or sold us land (both stories were perpetuated) but later on made war with us to take it back.

I want an episode with Kyle (one of the more smarter people) and Nick from the yard (one of the Dumbest) people together in the same episode

2:00 this is such a weird effect with headphones on

Wow, thanks for having NileTransparent on the show!

2:05 i really have come to expect it. Always a joy to get double the conversations for a little while

the 2 conversations at once sounds like my adhd when im trying to sleep

You can tell little Willy grew up in during the Dubya Bush administration, says “nucular” every time

Hows that for timing! Was just looking for an excuse to slack off at work!

the idea of "indian givers" is that when the pilgrims came, the natives gave them a piece of land or traded it for booze and then came back after they changed thier mind or were finished drinking the traded booze wanting to take back the land.

@ViolentlyAmerican

Ай бұрын

Ive heard that the natives didnt have the same property system, so that would be the reason for those problems

Okay since literally nobody else will mention it, I will stick my neck out for AI. What they are referring to is *specifically* generative AI. AI that is trained on man made works, then it tries its best to make something based on those works without copying it directly. There is a *VERY* good reason experts in the field aren't at all concerned about AI, and that is because it's piss easy to control. With generative AI, you could hardwire it to NEVER generate anything involving naked children, or just not do any sort of pornography ever and there's nothing anyone could do about it without reverse engineering the AI. Which would take am actual lifetime to do. But if we're *not* talking about generative AI, we have literally nothing to worry about, the potential risks are incredibly minimal unless explicitly created with the intent to harm, in which the government likely keeps an extremely close eye on anyone with the potential to do so. The hardest part of dealing with AI is getting the government to force these preventative measures be taken and actually enforcing it. Though if we make a proof of concept of what can happen and make them see it with the public watching, action will have to be taken. You can especially get conservatives on board

So much easier to follow with the wide seperation stereo. really need to get that dynamic stereo mix.

Thought I’d be hearing about radiation, not toxic racism 😂

@Millers-Mausoleum

Ай бұрын

It’s ok the ramones had a song about it. Too catchy so keeping it

In the UK I've heard Allen's statement referred to as stirring someone else's porridge

I used to have all the ultimas, and those were in the 80`s and the maps were cloth. Such beautiful work done to the games in the 80`s

I feel like y'all went a little overboard on the bs this episode. There were many times I was actually invested in the conversation and it was kind of forced off the rails. Believe me I love this show for that reason, but mostly with topics that aren't all the serious or relevant. I think Kyle was really trying to spread some good information here and was hard to get through the bs. I would have like to see more of tone y'all took with Vsauce Michael, more chill really trying discuss the topics.

@bigmuffexpress

Ай бұрын

yeah it's a shame how they kept cutting him off

@jyrolys6

Ай бұрын

There was a decent spread of info if you focus on it, lets not forget that this podcast was never about being serious. Moreso people capable of being very serious going off the rails. Kyle has a number of videos going in more depth about most of what was touched on, you're free to look more into his stuff since you seem curious.

@SFE3610

Ай бұрын

​@jyrolys6 why are you defensive over him pointing somthing out that most likely was a problem for others in the audience. Your comment is irrelevant.

@jyrolys6

Ай бұрын

@@SFE3610 Just highlighting misplaced expectations, is all. Safety Third was always like a lighthearted hangout we're allowed to watch/hear. Levels of goofing around being up there is nothing new. Don't remember which is more common, them introducing a guest or forgetting. That's another indicator of how laid-back the format is.

There's never been a dirty bomb attack but Chernobyl was close enough to call it one

This is a team up I did not know we needed. Love me some science THOR...and these other cats are always fun to listen to as well. Thanks for existing folks...make a dull day better!

I have grown up near a nuclear plant and really its doing nothing to put me at risk, they are monitoring everything 24/7 and they pay really well, most people I've ever heard from that worked there enjoyed their jobs and had no issue.

I'd like to know what Kyle thinks about the scene where Wilzig jaunts away from the turret fire.

"they are laughing about something serious I am trying to say" that's the name of the podcast Kyle

Kyle look like Thor if anyone actually wanted to hang out with him.

I relaized that my mind was chanting "Mention Total Biscuit, Mention Totalbiscuit" as he was talking about Starcraft.

I live within 2 hrs distance to 3 nuke plants here in Ontario canada and used to deliver tools and equipment for a construction company that refurbishs reactors and plants ... fro experience. .. you wouldn't make it 2 feet maliciously in those facilities without being shot good luck stealing nuclear material

i really love kyle using the conservative models to support nuclear power safety. like even with conservative numbers, it still makes total complete sense.

This is my new favorite thing. Genuine laughter is priceless

Arcanum!!! Arcanum is awesome.

Kyle Hill listened to Annie Jacobsen on a podcast and decided to make it his whole personality.

Watching kyle on his channel: stand up citizen. Kyle on safety third: one of us one of us

38:04 yeah, them cleaning up stuff on the cat walks in the sky was something else. They would have a line of people and they would tell them to run to the end and scoop for so many seconds, and then run back and give the shovel to the next person the thing is though they all died anyway.

I was cooking dinner and had the volume off reading subtitles. I just started actually paying attention.

Kyle is the best part of Safety Third

BTW, Tim Cain has made loads of videos about making Fallout and Fallout 2 at Interplay, Arcanum at Troika and various other games. www.youtube.com/@CainOnGames/playlists

I actually left a comment on Allen's short a few days ago talking about how I was watching a lot of mythbusters recently and I am watching them on banijay science and the mythbusters channel (I am illegally downloading them because I'm not watching 5 hours worth of ads)

I like to think of the multiple conversations occurring simultaneously as a sort of palette cleanser for the mind. Like, I just heard some information, now I’ll just hear some noise.

Scariest thing I see with tech is the possibility of attention death and hyper survalience. I don't hear enough people hating on digital footprint.

I know it's hard to get Nigel there, BUT PLEASE DO AN EPISODE WITH THAT CHEMIST AND NIGEL!!!! I appreciate every effort of this chaos, I love it. I don't wanna be a peepee-breath. I love every episode!!

I bet the group chat these guys have is wildly insane, I need more engineering friends

Thank for podcast was a bit chaotic. But still good! I was a guest on "KeyHole Conversations" podcast speaking about AI and humanity. Suprised I touched on all the same points of view.

are there any safety third communities except the patreon discord? i have been wondering for a longer while

allen introducing them all to the term "eskimo brother" has to be one of the SINGLE. FUNNIEST. THINGS. EVER. I have seen on this show/podcast xD ☠🤣