Is the New Sadako Better or Worse? - Dead by Daylight

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  • @Bshue123
    @Bshue1234 ай бұрын

    Breathe-Right Strip has been finally saved from its horrific imprisonment at the hands of Vile Scott.

  • @shimmley4677

    @shimmley4677

    4 ай бұрын

    However, breathe-right strip was the only thing keeping him docile. Without the seal who knows what will happen.

  • @WyattOShea

    @WyattOShea

    4 ай бұрын

    He needs that fourth hokage seal. He's too powerful.@@shimmley4677

  • @cameronstandifird8210

    @cameronstandifird8210

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@shimmley4677 Oh god, oh fuck

  • @Sadako-Yamamura
    @Sadako-Yamamura4 ай бұрын

    I'm a Sadako main, and after playing her on the PTB, I can say that she's in a healthier state in terms of dealing with newer players. As for dealing with experienced players, she's still a struggle and an uphill battle. Her new condemn slowdown is nice and welcomed since it can become dangerous if not dealt with. However, her chase potential still suffers. I wish they had given her something similar to Wraith when he uncloaks. Making the Telephone addon part of her base kit, or something similar, would have been a good idea. But that's just me speaking from experience. I still enjoy playing her and will continue to do so whether she's considered good or bad.

  • @Tufticles

    @Tufticles

    4 ай бұрын

    yeah when i used to play her before her current rework i'd always bring the nails addon, it's so cozy and made for really fun ambush attacks. i think the devs are still missing the mark hard on sadako and while it's nice they addressed the condemned they needed to give her something more useful for actual chases. i wish they'd buffed her invisibility and TV ambush potential more, because that's where i had most of my fun with her.

  • @thedoomslayer5863

    @thedoomslayer5863

    4 ай бұрын

    problem is if she sped up after manifesting she'd just be wraith but maybe better.

  • @mitchsz

    @mitchsz

    4 ай бұрын

    I don't trust anyone with that profile pic

  • @Qeseu

    @Qeseu

    4 ай бұрын

    "her chase potential still suffers" well yeah not every killer has a chase power. You literally get free slowdown and tv pressure in exchange

  • @ardaoguzhan8181

    @ardaoguzhan8181

    4 ай бұрын

    Her rework makes no sense. Just because people didn't know how to deal with sadako she got butchered down to the bottom D tier. They should also nerf the fuck out of plague because every single time i go against her my teammates cleanse the moment they touch an infected gen, just to touch the same gen after cleansing and get infected again

  • @verygayowl4199
    @verygayowl41994 ай бұрын

    As someone who loved Sadako before her first big rework, it feels so good to have a lot of the stuff I loved about her original kit come back. Overall she seems to be okay now in terms of balance, but there's a few changes I would like to see to make her better for both sides: 1. New Ring Drawing Basekit - Rewards her more for hooking, and makes holding a tape more of a risk reward for survivors, since getting caught will mean spreading condemn to their team. 2. Reduce the Slowdown from Manifesting - Always felt like a weird design choice when she doesn't get a speed boost like wraith, reducing it encourages using it in chase more while keeping it from being too spammable. 3. TV Condemn Becomes Passive - To discourage mindless tp spam, Condemn gained from TVs that Sadako doesn't directly teleport to isn't gained instantly, but gradually fills over ~7 seconds. Gaining more condemn this way while it's still filling will just complete that stack instead of adding any more. (Condemn from Direct tp's or hooking survivors will still add a stack as normal)

  • @ardaoguzhan8181

    @ardaoguzhan8181

    4 ай бұрын

    So the third one just nerfs her even more. She's already bottom D tier after her rework bruh if anything they should make gained condemn from projection give them 1.5 condemn. She has basically no personality she's basically pig with teleportation

  • @LieutenantPoop

    @LieutenantPoop

    4 ай бұрын

    Buffing condemn just makes her less fun to play against, without making her more fun to play. I’d say make fingernails addon base kit and/or increase the time she’s invisible while demanifested. Probably the easiest thing to do

  • @The_WIll_OF_D99

    @The_WIll_OF_D99

    4 ай бұрын

    Tbh I think her Applying hindered after de-manifesting should be base kit. Imo that's one of her nice add ones and basically allows her to close the gap and tag players more often

  • @jonifire
    @jonifire4 ай бұрын

    I hope they remove that survivors see all her TV auras permanent. It makes it very difficult to tp close to them. Be it in chase/when they sit on a gen or when they go to TVs.

  • @Efnol

    @Efnol

    4 ай бұрын

    let me get this right… “because survivors can see tv auras… it stops you from clicking the teleport button”??

  • @KingStotch

    @KingStotch

    4 ай бұрын

    Nah its nice to see TV auras. its a pain in the ass to find TVs on indoor maps. Its a good change and it should stay

  • @jonifire

    @jonifire

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Efnol wow I don‘t know what you could understand wrong, but you did it. Congrats.

  • @Efnol

    @Efnol

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jonifire maybe learn how to spell and form sentences before blaming me!

  • @jonifire

    @jonifire

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Efnol what exactly do you not understand?

  • @wah9312
    @wah93124 ай бұрын

    I think Sadako would benefit greatly from her demanifested form getting a buff. Like being able to phase through pallets or windows would both make sense, and would make her more threatening in chase.

  • @nicolasflorianodealencarsa1973

    @nicolasflorianodealencarsa1973

    4 ай бұрын

    but then would she not be too opressive and braindead? all she needs to do is manifest when she is inside of someone and boom free hit

  • @nicolasflorianodealencarsa1973

    @nicolasflorianodealencarsa1973

    4 ай бұрын

    i fell like something that could be done is make her vault faster and break pallets faster while demanifested, either that or make so that she is gains a 5% speed boost after manifesting for 15 seconds, this way is not just a copy of wraith of fast while hiden but has to slowdown to get a hit, she would get a lower speed boost but one that lasts for quite a while and that can stack with other speed boosts, and yes she would lose the speed boost if she demanifested.

  • @ardaoguzhan8181

    @ardaoguzhan8181

    4 ай бұрын

    Or either one of two can happen. For each condemn stack the survivor has they get a %2 hindrance or %5 slower repair/heal/opening gate penalty. That would actually make her good in chase

  • @spooky0_0.
    @spooky0_0.4 ай бұрын

    As a old Sadako player, I'm gonna main her again. I think she's gonna be more fun and healthy to play. You don't have to spam teleports all the time bc you're more encouraged to hook people with a tape which are a bit stronger in terms of slowdown. Speaking about chase, the have made Reiko's watch basekit that makes her invisibility last longer. This can be useful to mindgame at loops. It's not the strongest kit in the world, but not bad either. It makes her more confusing. Really happy about the changes and i prefer this version with extra steps.

  • @xyz12259
    @xyz122594 ай бұрын

    I have 1.5k hours on her, mained her since release. Some of the decisions they chose to make when reworking her are really unhealthy. Here's my response to the rework notes from the developers, copied and pasted from the forums. “Many felt like this favorited teleporting as soon as possible, rather than strategically during a chase” -dev note 1 No one teleports mid chase because it takes Sadako 10 years to come out of the TV. By the time you’re out, the survivor has already gone in the other direction. Nothing changed there. In fact, it has been made substantially worse due to the fact that TV auras are now shown to survivors for free, so they will know the exact TV you come out of mid chase. “When a survivor is hooked, their remaining condemned progress becomes locked in, preventing it from being removed” - dev note 2 Counter productive. Why should a player care about “locking in” someone’s condemned if the process involves hooking them, meaning they’re already close to death, making condemned useless. The Cursed Tapes changes are not great. Picking one up grants one condemn (I think) and what else? You are in no danger if she hits you or finds you (unlike current Onryo) and since it takes 1 second to retrieve and insert tapes, it is a very low risk high reward decision. Grab a tape near the gen you're on so you don't gain Condemn from the nearby Powered TV, and if Sadako finds you, you can literally put the tape in and remove your condemn before it's locked in right in front of her because it takes 1 second. The no teleport cooldown is nice I won’t lie. It brings back the only thing unique about old Sadako and why many people played her, being able to zip across the map and back in seconds. Too bad most your TV's will be off anyways, since taking tapes is a no-brainer, and inserting them still turns the TV you inserted them into off. “The Onryo can now chase survivors while Demanifested and invis duration while demanifested is .2 seconds longer” dev note 3 The ability to chase while demanifested is kinda nice because you can gain bloodlust (but at the same time it makes it harder to sneak up onto survivors because they’ll hear the chase music start playing) and .2 seconds extra invis does nothing. They need to understand that if they don’t give her a proper, meaningful chase power then people will still spam condemn. People spam condemn to make up for the fact that she sucks in chase. These changes don’t fix that, in fact they encourage going for multiple chases which will completely screw you over as a mouse 1 killer. In conclusion: No relevant chase power, meaning condemned will still be spammed No teleport cooldown Encouraged to go for many hooks with a killer who can’t chase, and given a reward of condemn locking in for doing so, which is useless because the person is already close to death due to you hooking them Tapes that are a no brainer decision to pick up, as the risk for taking one is nonexistent. Chasing while demanifested, which is mostly a buff, and a .2 seconds extra invis while demanifested which is useless. TV Auras being revealed to survivors at all times, complete eliminating the fun, healthy part of her power (surprising survivors and using the TVs in chase) And the worst of all: Being able to insert a tape in 1 SECOND. I can't stress how bad this is for the game. Survivors will just go to a tv and remove their condemn INSTANTLY in front of your face and there will be nothing you can do about it. You will watch as all your progress is removed in 1 second and now that survivor has significantly less condemn that is about to be locked in because they know they can do it right before they're hooked. It's a cheesy and obnoxious change and it feels very very cheap. 2 seconds was short enough, I can't believe it was made shorter.

  • @tomfooler9398

    @tomfooler9398

    4 ай бұрын

    Here's my 2 cents as a primarily survivor player, passive phasing is stupid and that .2 seconds feels awful to play against, that's all I can say

  • @akdreamer6497

    @akdreamer6497

    4 ай бұрын

    Cope

  • @semi__colon

    @semi__colon

    4 ай бұрын

    aint readin allat but dis fax

  • @ChaosTheStrange

    @ChaosTheStrange

    4 ай бұрын

    A few things, I feel like you missed. Tapes do NOT protect survivors anymore. They don't gain passive condemned, but picking them up won't protect you. They should also still destroy the tape when hooked. Alot of people are looking over the fact survivors gain a full stack when in range of ANY powered TV, not JUST the one you teleport to. ("When The Onryo teleports, Survivors within 16m of **a** powered TV will receive a stack of Condemned.") Aswell as this Survivors once again have to go to the furthest possible TV to remove their tape, and hair comb may not be changed so you can dictate which TV is furthest from someone(?) [No one has covered her add-on changes so I have no idea sadly]. There are also still the reduced TV cooldowns, so while you'll burn through them much faster, that can be a good thing since Survivors cannot take tapes from disabled TVs as far as I know, only place them in. However, doubled edged sword since you can't spread condemned to the disabled TVs after. Sadako sadly does still suck in chase though, I wish they'd find a way to make her actually good. I see alot of people suggest being able to just walk through pallets and windows, but that would A; be buggy, and B; make it impossible to outplay as survivor aside from just hoping she gets rubberbanded to the other side of the pallet when she manifests inside of it. (if you disable her ability to manifest inside the pallet it becomes a worthless ability since you won't actually be gaining anything by going through it). I still think tapes should, at the very least, be destroyed when you hit a Survivor though. Someone being able to just slap a tape in the TV infront of you is profoundly stupid.

  • @xyz12259

    @xyz12259

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ChaosTheStrange I agree. I actually really like the concept of spreading condemn to each survivor near a powered TV, and it locking in after being hooked, but taking a tape is still low risk high reward so there's a good chance they won't be near a powered TV at all because they took the tape. And you still have to chase someone as a m1 killer to lock in the condemnation. AND the TV auras nerf her power to teleport mid chase.

  • @Nope_Nope-
    @Nope_Nope-4 ай бұрын

    Hey Scott really been uploading your recent style of videos where you have gameplay at the end. You’ve mentioned this channel is to rant about your impressions and takes of the game and that’s why I watch you but I also enjoy your gameplay. While I can always watch the videos if I’m not always able to tune to the stream, you picking out gameplay that relates to your rants is more enjoyable then watching the vod. Keep it up and hope your health gets better everyday.

  • @VialofNMTears
    @VialofNMTears4 ай бұрын

    I was actually worried this was gonna be a 45 min discussion video bc all the others lately have just been discussion - I was gonna say Scott are you good

  • @sapphicseas0451

    @sapphicseas0451

    4 ай бұрын

    same lol

  • @liam4606
    @liam46064 ай бұрын

    I feel like giving Sadako the ability to phase through pallets and windows would be nice (when not materialized). Something to compliment her chase a bit and she would be a fine, average killer.

  • @windowwax
    @windowwax4 ай бұрын

    If a killer needs slow down perks to get their slow down kit to even have any impact then theres a problem. They just need to buff her chase. If hooks are going to be tied to her slowdown then she needs to actually be able to get hooks. Thats assuming hooks locking in condem is even a big deal in the long run anyway.

  • @Daddix0
    @Daddix04 ай бұрын

    facing sadako on PTB made me realize how shit her invis is because you can hear exactly where she is and her mindgame just doesn't matter, exactly like dredge. also love how TV projections are still so telegraphed and loud, only kinda threatening if she's running fingernail. poopslop killer!

  • @youngfxx8437
    @youngfxx84374 ай бұрын

    Perfect video to watch on my break! Thank you vile Scott

  • @slavajuri
    @slavajuri4 ай бұрын

    This is basically how I've been playing her since I picked her up in October anyway. The haha spam tp memes really didn't work against good teams, and both styles were equally strong against weak teams in my exp. Curious to see how this plays out live, I'd be happy to see her win rate go down a bit cos she is super strong.

  • @Brutaliraptor
    @Brutaliraptor4 ай бұрын

    That intro had me giggling like mad bro I wasn’t ready for that one

  • @vellycanelly7429
    @vellycanelly74294 ай бұрын

    The thing I’ve always acknowledged about Sadako’s strategy is the constant pressure applied overtime throughout a match. She’s a late game killer through and through, and this pressure is a little different compared to many other killers because others like Legion, Oni, Wesker, Singularity, and Skull Merchant can apply pressure early on in the match. This killer builds up the pressure constantly and survivors have to worry about what can happen as the match goes on if they don’t keep up with the slowdown. It’s kind of a difficult gameplay design to build around, but this is what I’ve always liked about this killer. Both sides have to keep tabs on the pressure.

  • @colinm.hansbury2921
    @colinm.hansbury29214 ай бұрын

    Hey Scott, love your content. I've been getting into Dark and Darker lately and I noticed you streamed it before, will you be doing content on it in the future? It's hard to find decent content on it for KZread, at least content that's not clickbait-y and overreactive.

  • @Nubzombie
    @Nubzombie4 ай бұрын

    GG Scott, I was the Jeff player in the second Sadako game. My PC crashed which is why I got disconnected during that match, sorry about that! Looking forward to seeing how Sadako plays on live servers with a bigger sample size of matches, she definitely feels like shes in a better and more fun/engaging place than she was before, but still felt pretty strong, especially if you can pressure someone to they can't return tapes. We played another match after the ones in this video where I never got a chance to get a tape back, and wound up with like 6 stacks of perma-condemned by my first hook... Clarkee tried so hard to protect me but the Sadako pressure was too much!

  • @thatfishguy4991
    @thatfishguy49914 ай бұрын

    I wish tapes still built up passive condemned and they reworked iri tape.

  • @beerad_98
    @beerad_98Ай бұрын

    Onryo main here, I honestly treat condemn as slight passive pressure instead of the main tool for her power. I run monotor and abuse a lot just to add a bit or surprise in approach when not teleporting. But spamming teleporting is definitely not the way I play. Prioritize chase early, use at least one decent slowdown, surge ensures you are getting value through your chases without having to hope for good scourge hooks. Dead lock, grim, or dead man's are always solid, and I have honestly not considered coup de Gras until this video and I think it fits well. Her m1 feels pretty decent imo.

  • @HiHi-yk1mv
    @HiHi-yk1mv4 ай бұрын

    I honestly I don’t understand the sounds good on paper analogy because technically speaking locking condemn wouldn’t matter because what’s the point in trying to go for condemn anymore when ebony mori is going to be faster anyway. You can tunnel someone faster than taking all game to condemn.

  • @avocado9999
    @avocado99994 ай бұрын

    30:35 'Thats not where i meant to tp', still hits everyone with condemn

  • @gabelachenman408
    @gabelachenman4084 ай бұрын

    Did not expect this to be 43 mins my dear scott

  • @Djo-Hop
    @Djo-Hop4 ай бұрын

    Still think she should apply condemned slowly to survivors looking at her TV's. She's already very low-power, so it feels weird that they're not trying to make her flavourful like Myers

  • @anettelma123

    @anettelma123

    4 ай бұрын

    yea sure but she also need to chase people, not just spamming tp's and go for one chase for each survivor at the end to mori them

  • @dodang_9147

    @dodang_9147

    4 ай бұрын

    @@anettelma123 PTB Sadako version encourages brain dead teleporting on every TV but you can't get mori's because survivor can shutdown all televisions by doing the braindead tapes that show aura and have 1 second insert time. There is also no game delay because killer spend 30-40 second spamming TV's for what survivor spends 30-40 second taking a tape and going to a tv to turn it off. In many ways, you lose time as killer as you passively lose. Sadako is braindead to play and braindead to counter.

  • @anettelma123

    @anettelma123

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dodang_9147 For me that sounds good. You have to waste your time to counter the killer, its better than sitting on gens with hope killer wont mori you. I mean right now (before PTB) Sadako is braindead to play but not braindead to counter. This change is healthy in my opinion.

  • @dommassa2667

    @dommassa2667

    4 ай бұрын

    Skill issue

  • @dodang_9147

    @dodang_9147

    4 ай бұрын

    @@anettelma123 but your not wasting time as survivor. the killer is wasting THEIR time to use ability which fails to give them any reward.

  • @johnnysixstring
    @johnnysixstring4 ай бұрын

    Aww I was really expecting him to say hey breath right strip guys here with a Scott on my face

  • @dangernoodle3343
    @dangernoodle33434 ай бұрын

    Was this stream not on youtube?

  • @HOMOGRIMOIRE
    @HOMOGRIMOIRE4 ай бұрын

    The thing I'm noticing with you playing Sadako is that you're not using your invisibility, be it to sneak up or using it in chase. You say she doesn't have a chase power, but the complete and untrackable invisibility she has is a valuable tool in her kit that improves her lethality. Not utilizing her invisibility is like not using demo portals. Sure, you can play well enough without utilizing the portals or invis, but then youre not using the killer to their fullest potential Sadako's invisiblity allows her to mindgame virtually any loop at will, and put the mindgame much more in her favor. It's hardly as broken as say blight or nurse, as it's still only a mindgame and the survivor can win it and ks countered by holding W. Reiko's watch + old newspaper bring sadako's lethality to the next level, and why i think they should be basekit so she has some chase capability. So, if you want to make sadako more lethal, ditch the other addons, distorted photo sucks anyways, and use reiko's watch+old newspaper. Personally, i run bamboozle and brutal to accentuate her chase more. I like bbq as my info + ruin since ruin means i dont have to bother kicking gens, but honestly use whatever other two perks you want. But tips for using Sadako's invis to get hits. #1 is to use cover. Sadako is like the only killer who really likes LoS blockers and can use them to her advantage. When youre sneaking up to a gen or other point of interest, hide behind cover when youre visible and move closer when youre invisible. Once you start to turn visible, you'll ideal be right on top of a survivor amd and can manifest for an easy first hit. Using invis while in chase is more complex, but still follows the same logic of using LoS, at least at taller loops and longer/stronger loops like shack. In those instances, youll want to rely on reiko's watch to get close before manifesting. At shorter loops, using post manifestation invis is the better option since otherwise in the time it takes to manifest, the survivor could make it to the window/pallet. Still though, I'm glad shes in a healthier state, even if it's weaker lol. I think its more fun thay way.

  • @SimplyTexy
    @SimplyTexy4 ай бұрын

    Sadako doesn't have a chase power but her being short and invisible with no red stain makes her difficult to read and mind game it would be nice if she got a bit of a buff in her de-manifested state but imo its not needed shes already a b tier killer and other killers need more buffs/re-works like Michael, twins and Freddy

  • @gongagabadgch6451
    @gongagabadgch64514 ай бұрын

    What if you'd used grim embrace and dead man switch, don't you basically get 4 guaranteed deadlock to all gen?

  • @Skillfulstone

    @Skillfulstone

    4 ай бұрын

    I mean, if they don't make some major changes, or at least make the "Anti-3-gen" system only kick-in when 1 gen is left, then this is going to replace regression perks since it won't be worth it to kick gens until the last gen.

  • @usedhalfcart

    @usedhalfcart

    4 ай бұрын

    he was using grim embrace

  • @gongagabadgch6451

    @gongagabadgch6451

    4 ай бұрын

    @@usedhalfcart Einstein is it you?😂

  • @TheSlyBrit

    @TheSlyBrit

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Skillfulstoneit's 8 kicks per gen not total

  • @Skillfulstone

    @Skillfulstone

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheSlyBrit I know, but imagine how fast those 8 kicks can go when the Survivors are hovering over the same couple gens (trying to do specific gens first) and/or you're using perks like Trail of Torment or Nowhere to Hide. Those perks will simply not be worth it anymore if they don't make the system only work during the last gen _at least_ because despite not being regression perks they would have a hard-limit on their use.

  • @SiBORG.
    @SiBORG.4 ай бұрын

    Today i could finally make out that it's a persons head behind mini scott. For the past year I thought he just had a chair with a weird headrest that made him look Stephen Hawking

  • @eugenechaud4966
    @eugenechaud49664 ай бұрын

    I love when a killer who does anything mildly unique gets whined about by content creators until they're beaten down into being a terrible version of the same old tired gameplay loop as the others.

  • @dommassa2667

    @dommassa2667

    4 ай бұрын

    Get good or keep crying

  • @khazaboomDBD
    @khazaboomDBD4 ай бұрын

    I definitely think this is a better spot for her in the game. The condemn playstyle always felt dull to play and to play against. I agree she needs something in chase, even if it was something like Wraith's speed boost out of stealth.

  • @alowaski
    @alowaski4 ай бұрын

    my favorite character in this episode is the bandaid

  • @phishstix1863
    @phishstix18634 ай бұрын

    “Hi Scott, this is Breathe-Right Strip”👋

  • @Legend27999
    @Legend279994 ай бұрын

    Maybe it’s because I played her during her op time period but this seems like a massive nerf and also when is this update coming out live

  • @Chunta24
    @Chunta244 ай бұрын

    Its just billy this billy that i need a real in depth evaluation on my girl.

  • @lachenstars
    @lachenstars4 ай бұрын

    As a former Sadako main, I think this is the best version by far. Because you don't lose a Tape when hit and you don't gain 2 stacks of condemn, counterplay is more intuitive for survivors. It's a nice middle ground where holding a Tape doesn't give passive condemn, but it doesn't protect you if you are near a powered TV when she teleports. Having target TVs is better slow down (it bothered me that Iri Tape became BASEKIT OG Sadako, and it was still one of her best options), and smart Sadako's can figure out who needs to go where. But locking in condemn on hook is a unique and clever way to ramp up her secondary objective threat naturally. She's always been best at a hit and run style where she has to use her insane map mobility and limited stealth to catch people away from strong loops. Her add-ons are still underwhelming, and personally I think new Iri Tape is a terrible trade (condemn only gained if survivors pick up Tapes to hinder her mobility - in exchange for almost unlimited mobility), but Yoichi's Fishing Net can lock in permanent blindness which is interesting b/c Windows is still so common. Turn 1 of her useless add-ons into something helpful in chase (Telephone is barely noticeable IMO) and tweak her TV spawn algorithm on maps like Crotus Prenn Asylum and I'll be perfectly happy.

  • @SS_Tier
    @SS_Tier4 ай бұрын

    They should do the same with Freddy mix the old version with the new one.

  • @simplyerayn6278
    @simplyerayn62784 ай бұрын

    Good lord, I hit the 5 minute mark and thought to myself, "This is going on a suspiciously long time. How long is this video?" and somehow managed to choke on my own saliva seeing a 40 minute video from the rehabilitated homeless man that replaced Scott.

  • @maxomega3
    @maxomega34 ай бұрын

    I don't know if the condemn playstyle is so weak or if scott just didn't take any perks to help him with that playstyle. he said it himself, he got no value from pain res and grim embrace and thats just because those perks don't help him with his goal. If he had a build more suited to passive slowdown like deadlock and idk sloppy? (not really sure how to play the condemn playstyle), then I feel it'd be a better comparison. tl;dr taking hooking perks when you don't plan to hook doesn't make sense

  • @YokaiSteve
    @YokaiSteve4 ай бұрын

    So Sadako is more a momentum scaling killer now? With condemned locked on hooks?

  • @davidleatherman1958
    @davidleatherman19584 ай бұрын

    It probably did not help that you had 3 perks that relied on hooking when playing a playstyle that does not hook often

  • @jacefromthere286
    @jacefromthere2864 ай бұрын

    Scott how do you feel that I put you on as background noise?

  • @tsunekofuwakage
    @tsunekofuwakage4 ай бұрын

    While I love her design and think she's in a better spot, i'm still sad she just feels like bad wraith to me. I wish she had a little something in chase or condemn to do a little something more than just "you die" at full stacks. Could have sadako jumpscares happen at certain condemns and see fake sadako's walking around or appearing just for some more flavor.

  • @Mickeymouse7727
    @Mickeymouse77274 ай бұрын

    This is how she was always supposed to be played. People fell in loved with condemned for some reason. Never understood that.

  • @dontyodelsohard2456
    @dontyodelsohard24564 ай бұрын

    So upset I can't play this PTB... I used to main Sadako before the change. Now they are making her closer to what I liked and my internet sucks...

  • @rileyp1506
    @rileyp15064 ай бұрын

    ring drawing needs to be reworked back to healing and not gens idk why that was ever changed

  • @mckookie2967

    @mckookie2967

    4 ай бұрын

    cos ppl did the boring slug playstyle when it was tied to heal

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    It now works of hooks and not gens, wdym?

  • @rileyp1506

    @rileyp1506

    4 ай бұрын

    @N.E.M.o777 doing a gen gives a stack of condemned. I don't think you should be penalized for doing gens. its not much but if they're trying to go away from slugako why also change the addon thats basically useless now

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    @@rileyp1506 Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about

  • @Ashtonyss
    @Ashtonyss4 ай бұрын

    Its hard to really quantify how I feel about new Sadako. I really didn't want another Pig, which is who she really feels like to me now.

  • @fraudirl
    @fraudirl4 ай бұрын

    Yay 40 minutes of scott on sadako. You mention the manifest mindgames not working on anyone with a brain, but you might not get their proper use. You have to time it on jungle gyms/loops to deny checkspots and make survivors misplay rather than on high visibility loops that alot of inexperienced sadakos do. Its still bad but it works

  • @WTFisAuserFRCKINname
    @WTFisAuserFRCKINname4 ай бұрын

    So Scott is starting his brand as an Otz-competitor by beefing up the length in videos. Waiting for the 18 hour video.

  • @peeperinos
    @peeperinos4 ай бұрын

    Im an oreo main and i bet she is gonna be played so much less now. everyone will be switching to blight/nurse/spirit/wesker because trying to chase someone for an hour while 3 gens pop simultaneously will just lead to having to tunnel someone out style gameplay. Ive never played her condemn playstyle, so its just a "revert to her horrible playstyle previously with a few minor buffs" type of gameplay. As for me, ill likely switch to legion and nemesis with a bit of wesker.

  • @silasgreaves6134
    @silasgreaves61344 ай бұрын

    Hoooooooly 43 minutes, alright, time to strap in boys.

  • @ribbon8546
    @ribbon85464 ай бұрын

    You know this is truly a cursed update when it forced Scott to play Sadako.

  • @Emmetlovesredvelvet13
    @Emmetlovesredvelvet134 ай бұрын

    I spent a good few hours testing her and I've got a tip for everyone who was having trouble think of her as a chase killer stop looking at your condemned. You become stressed and your going to lose if you solely focus on condemned use her like a chase killer now. Use mind games manage your manifesting and be oppressive this killer can't be stunned body blocked or window faked if you manage your manifestion effectively. I did not lose a single match on the ptb once I stopped focusing on her condemned and played her like a normal killer. The best way I can describe it is like pyramidhead getting final judgement is neat but you shouldn't throw your match trying to make it happen.

  • @Tsaooyoh
    @Tsaooyoh4 ай бұрын

    Scott, not everyone is you, some people like stealth and hit and run

  • @_C_Boy_
    @_C_Boy_4 ай бұрын

    Your data is invalid if you are using custom matches.

  • @bassgod985
    @bassgod9854 ай бұрын

    Did I dream that you stopped making DBD content due to a new game coming out? How did I miss all these uploads

  • @salem7699
    @salem76994 ай бұрын

    Sadako's place is pig but better, which is still not great but fun to play. Now we just need to figure out what to do with pig...

  • @pantless1472
    @pantless14724 ай бұрын

    New Sadako? Don’t you mean old Sadako?

  • @tristenatorplaysgames6833
    @tristenatorplaysgames68334 ай бұрын

    A killer that encourages hooking over killing causes more interesting gameplay? Wow would have never guessed behavior woulda put two and two

  • @SSGeneration121
    @SSGeneration1214 ай бұрын

    did they fix my baby ?!?

  • @Grahbird
    @Grahbird4 ай бұрын

    9:30 lmfao

  • @HalcyonRemnant
    @HalcyonRemnant4 ай бұрын

    I think right now sadako is in the best state she's been so far, I'd still love for her to have a chase power but this is much better than playing for condemns. Right now she sorta just feels like alternate!pig, which isn't a terrible thing I guess? Also I think you're very much underestimating mind games working on experienced players lmao, it actually took me so off guard hearing you say that they don't work on anyone with a brain when you have so much experience yourself

  • @Insanity-vv9nn
    @Insanity-vv9nn4 ай бұрын

    Im happy for the condemn nerf. The majority of People that played Sadako just tunneled someone and when they fail to do it, they just teleported forever until someone could be moried. She was just abused like that, I think the only reason some sore losers don’t play myers with instakill add on is because survivors could just run to a locker

  • @ardaoguzhan8181
    @ardaoguzhan81814 ай бұрын

    To help her with chase maybe survivors get a %1.5-2 hindrance effect for each condemn stack the survivor has or to make her slowdown better give each survivor a %5 penalty to repair/heal/open gate penalty for each condemn stck they have. Most survivors will be locked at 2-4 stacks anyways so at max they get a %5-6 hindrance effect which isn't that unfair

  • @thatguyyouknowtheone4073
    @thatguyyouknowtheone40734 ай бұрын

    oh god, 43 minutes?

  • @Idontknowwhat2type
    @Idontknowwhat2type4 ай бұрын

    From the moment I heard about the changes I knew right away I was just going to make a slowdown build and bleed out everyone. Pentimento, deadlock grim maybe thana and something else along those perks. Just slow the game to a crawl while I build. That seems like the best way to play them while you focus on chase and kill off someone. Once one person is dead (and they still have 2 gens left) it’s likely game

  • @dankmemes7796

    @dankmemes7796

    4 ай бұрын

    Wow dude that sounds so fun 😐

  • @justusgrimm2127

    @justusgrimm2127

    4 ай бұрын

    I am looking forward to matching up with you

  • @Idontknowwhat2type

    @Idontknowwhat2type

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dankmemes7796 i wouldn’t run it but once to prove concept. I don’t run builds like this anymore. I feel bad and it’s just a boring match lol. Sorry if it came off like I actually play this way. I run 1 or no slowdowns at this point.

  • @invalidusername6158
    @invalidusername61584 ай бұрын

    No more Ryan Scottling :(

  • @HEALER__
    @HEALER__4 ай бұрын

    you can't take PTB games into account when discussing balance, ptb matches are a joke. she's considerably weaker, need a buff asap

  • @Drybones195
    @Drybones1954 ай бұрын

    Sadako is just annoying to play against in a different way now.

  • @gnolex86
    @gnolex864 ай бұрын

    I honestly don't care if she's weaker or stronger, I just want the Condemned strat gone.

  • @xyz12259

    @xyz12259

    4 ай бұрын

    that's... her power. condemn is her power. what you said is the equivalent of me saying that I want them to nerf pinhead because every killer keeps using the "box strat"

  • @gnolex86

    @gnolex86

    4 ай бұрын

    @@xyz12259 Do you even know what the Condemned strat is or are you just pretending to be stupid? She can kill people by mindlessly teleporting around and hitting people who pick up tapes to build up full Condemned. It's a skill-less strat that has little to no counterplay in solo queue. Otz even got a 4K by playing with one hand. That's what I want gone, not the whole aspect of her power.

  • @deathknight1239
    @deathknight12394 ай бұрын

    Says the condemed playstyle is weak, proceeds to use gen perks that dont help with condemning people

  • @lordchunderbussiii
    @lordchunderbussiii4 ай бұрын

    "Fung"

  • @croquedead3926
    @croquedead39264 ай бұрын

    I'm a P100 Sadako Main and I am very happy in the direction they chose to take her. I was very annoyed by the rework she got last summer because it made her feel very brainless to play if you went for the optimal condemn spam playstyle. This return to her original state is great news and they gave her a reason to hook people now, which I think is great. I think this is going to be the best state she has been so far. I don't even care if she's a bit wesker than she is currently, she's gonna be way more fun.

  • @FreznyL
    @FreznyL4 ай бұрын

    Ur also not using her best addon which is screwing u over too

  • @jonnyisdaboss
    @jonnyisdaboss4 ай бұрын

    new sadako is way too good at tunneling one person out now

  • @jaymatsu2367

    @jaymatsu2367

    4 ай бұрын

    So does current sadako on live if not better

  • @KyokujiFGC
    @KyokujiFGC4 ай бұрын

    I guess she's in a healthier state for the game now, but it does feel like her uniqueness is kinda gone again.

  • @eemleen
    @eemleen4 ай бұрын

    i think her chase potential is pretty bad lowkey, my solution to this is to let her phase through pallets and vaults while demanifested, BUT after she faces through one in a chase her time to manifest increases for a couple seconds. this way i think it would still give the survivors a chance to get somewhere safe after she follows right behind them

  • @dodang_9147

    @dodang_9147

    4 ай бұрын

    The only way they can make her good at chase is if they give her like 35% haste when invisible then you become like passively phasing spirit.

  • @Superyan100
    @Superyan1004 ай бұрын

    You ran a slow down build but went for straight condemn? We def running out of content

  • @ImGazu
    @ImGazu4 ай бұрын

    TLDW?

  • @infamous5673
    @infamous56734 ай бұрын

    Worse cause streamers like otz and hens cried about a c tier killer

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    bruh

  • @infamous5673

    @infamous5673

    4 ай бұрын

    @N.E.M.o777 i know right maybe they will cry about trapper being too strong next

  • @johnnybon4865

    @johnnybon4865

    4 ай бұрын

    @@infamous5673but like they won’t because they want to buff him lol

  • @infamous5673

    @infamous5673

    4 ай бұрын

    @johnnybon4865 so they nerfed her down to d tier. They cried about a bad killer who isnt even strong

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    @@infamous5673Most sane dbd player you are

  • @HiHi-yk1mv
    @HiHi-yk1mv4 ай бұрын

    She’s absolutely worse. I don’t care what nobody says. But she’s more healthier this way I guess.

  • @michaelurmo7984
    @michaelurmo79844 ай бұрын

    Basically she is Pyrimad Head without the ranged attack and an expanded upon status effect.

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    Pyramidhead is a regular killer that kills people fast and has a hard-to-learn chasing power. Sadako is a stealth killer with bursts of high mobility and endangering passive game delay. Not to mention her other gimmicks like invisibility mindgames and body-blocks countering. I wouldn't say they're all that similar.

  • @JakeobE

    @JakeobE

    4 ай бұрын

    @@N.E.M.o777 "Hard-to-learn chasing power" PLEASE, all a pyramid head needs to do well with his power is threaten to use to use his power, then get an easy M2 if a survivor commits to a window/pallet, or pulls up his sword to M1 once a survivor abandons a window/pallet throw or vault. It's completely brainless, yet 99.99% of pyramids always hard tunnel someone out at 5/4 gens.

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JakeobE Nah

  • @dodang_9147

    @dodang_9147

    4 ай бұрын

    @@N.E.M.o777 What he means is that condemn is as good as PH mori. aka it sucks. it is also hard to do. Not that killer are similar. Just their debuff is similarly useless.

  • @N.E.M.o777

    @N.E.M.o777

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dodang_9147 Heresy

  • @pyroronnie2473
    @pyroronnie24734 ай бұрын

    As a sadako main. BETTER! HOLY CRAP SHES A THOUSAND TIMES STRONGER AND MORE FUN

  • @DarthRane113
    @DarthRane1134 ай бұрын

    She plays like most of the other killers now..ee always talk about needing different play styles we get a new play style and thrm everyone cries about it. And you evne admitted it wasnt even that good.

  • @bentup101
    @bentup1014 ай бұрын

    Genuinely how did u drag this out to 50 mins😭😭 i was gonna watch but damn I don't have an eighth of my day to spare lmao. This yt algorith meat sucking is getting out of hand

  • @joejob56
    @joejob564 ай бұрын

    fortnite

  • @nathanfernandez69
    @nathanfernandez694 ай бұрын

    What a nerd

  • @daddasdadda108
    @daddasdadda1084 ай бұрын

    again buffing a unfunn killer with no reason

  • @invalidusername6158

    @invalidusername6158

    4 ай бұрын

    This is a nerf to her though?

  • @l2055

    @l2055

    4 ай бұрын

    She got nerfed so she's basically the original version

  • @dodang_9147

    @dodang_9147

    4 ай бұрын

    @@l2055 She's worse then original version because original version had iri tape and old ring drawing alongside dangerous tapes.

  • @hotpot328
    @hotpot3284 ай бұрын

    idc i got banned from this childish game for being “ toxic “ in horror game

  • @jordannolan4008

    @jordannolan4008

    4 ай бұрын

    😂🫵

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