The Mace needs a Shockwave animation for its Knockback effect.

@Glory2Snowstar

4 ай бұрын

I’d love if it kicked up dirt or sand depending on the terrain.

@userfromtheinternet

4 ай бұрын

That would make the Mace feel more powerful

@Light_2461

4 ай бұрын

Yeah it feels so off without any animation

@zircon256ua

4 ай бұрын

I wish we could like comments more than once.

@jackatk

4 ай бұрын

@@Light_2461 The game’s animations feel so lifeless compared to other games- I hope they start fixing that

More reason to hold on to a totem of undying at all time. One to protect against players with a mace and one to protect yourself if you miss with a mace.

@raminatazade5376

4 ай бұрын

AHAHAHAHHAHAHS right

Hell, you could even pair it with leaping potions

@Light_2461

4 ай бұрын

Wind charges too

@Cust0mCraft

4 ай бұрын

So they are actually useful now, neat!

@Mantixion

4 ай бұрын

@@Light_2461 I tried that one before; made a system for launching 5 wind charges at once. I 2-shot the warden.

I saw the utterance of a new weapon and clicked faster than the mace killed him😭

@jennatuls

4 ай бұрын

real

@lyndonpaloma462

4 ай бұрын

Real

@Planetmango48

4 ай бұрын

😲

@michaelsurratt1864

4 ай бұрын

Fake

@alliinase9076

4 ай бұрын

@@mctogo001 They spelt 'than' correctly. You must still not understand what they said correctly.

I think it would be cool to have lightning strike around you if you hit a mob with the mace during a thunderstorm

@JustWixy

4 ай бұрын

It could be an enchantment

@teenageapple3788

4 ай бұрын

Ooooh. Imagine if Mojang adds Channeling as an enchantment for the mace

@thomasalvarez6456

4 ай бұрын

Mjolnir

@Jessepigman69

4 ай бұрын

Channeling on a mace would be amazing

@toodrip9095

4 ай бұрын

​​@@teenageapple3788and if they make it can throw with Loyalty enchantment, literally turn it into Mjolnir

OP for the 3% of minecraft players who can land a hit in mid air from a 10+ block fall, extremely UP for the rest of us who'd die 😂

@dwarian5252

4 ай бұрын

It's not super hard unless you are falling from 50-100+ blocks away. Unless you are playing on a console, XD good luck with that.

@outregis

4 ай бұрын

@@dwarian5252 You're best bets at it working are unaware or trapped opponents though. Otherwise you will often move faster out of the way then they are able to fall such a great distance. thus 5 or so block height is probably the most majority of people are going to get out of a competitive fight, if their opponent isn't already closing that gap.

@SwordMaster3000

4 ай бұрын

Cough cough feather falling 4

@Planetmango48

4 ай бұрын

It's not that hard.

@marcat154

4 ай бұрын

I think it probably helps being good at MLG Buckets

I get that the heavy core is rare, but the recipe should really require an iron ingot to cap off the end of the rod (like in the sprite). It would just feel like a more substantial recipe with that (and you would've gotten so much iron looking for the core that it would basically not matter).

@user-gn1jr5qf6h

4 ай бұрын

They made it with breeze rods so it's exclusive to the trial chambers

@cmans777

4 ай бұрын

Or keep everything and require netherite to be wrapped around it and a new more powerful furnace?

@alliinase9076

4 ай бұрын

@@user-gn1jr5qf6h Dude wasn't saying to remove the breeze rod from the recipe.

@justjordan6147

4 ай бұрын

I’d rather an extra one or just some iron blocks to make it feel like it’s actually heavy as ish instead of “ohh here is the heavy core and strap it on a breeze rod,” that ting would snap so the iron is for making it heavier and making the shaft look more stronger and add like a Nice craftable weapon 😊

@Sock-Monster-Simian

4 ай бұрын

@@justjordan6147 Exactly. The current recipe just doesn't feel heavy. There should be something extra, whether it's iron or something else.

It's quite OP, however, I think it works out well, as skill is required

@lucky_block_head

4 ай бұрын

mojang is good at balancing the game except for elytras and totems. (the totem is farmable and when u get 1 elytra u can fly around the end and get 10 more like that)

@old_riv

4 ай бұрын

The mace is also very rare so no wonder why it is overpowered

@polonight1

4 ай бұрын

It's very good, however I feel they should be a limit on it's max damage, specifically when attacking boss mobs, such as the ender dragon, wither and warden, just to prevent people from oneshoting them.

@old_riv

4 ай бұрын

@@polonight1 well it is very rare and will encourage players to explore more

@fatboy_jarred6925

4 ай бұрын

and its pretty rare

They did say that the heavy core will not be dropped from vaults in the future.

@StagTwo

4 ай бұрын

Fingers crossed that they'll add some kind of boss/mini-boss mob that drops it

@MonkeyEnthusiast

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@StagTwoI think they will. I was envisioning something like the constructs from Zelda.

@Nephelangelo

4 ай бұрын

A Trial Chamber boss would be the cherry on top of this update.

@lavaboatcubesupportsukrain7539

4 ай бұрын

If you can’t get it from vaults there should be a way to make sure that everyone gets one. The way it is now the philosophy behind the vaults is flawed since it’s so rare I wouldn’t be surprised if some trial chambers don’t have any so in a big server only a few people will have one

@catsdogswoof3968

4 ай бұрын

​@@StagTwoonce we get the boss, we shoukd get 2022 mob vote mobs and maybe the copepr golem, def calcite vlockset though

genuinely it's a really cool risk reward idea, I love adding more creative methods to that games combat instead of just another armor upgrade

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

I absolutely love the Wind Charge / Mace synergy. The big blast of air to launch you skyward, then falling down to deal a slam attack and do massive damage, but instead taking damage if your target avoids the hit... I mean come on, it's a move straight out of an rpg boss fight! But you ARE the boss fight!

I hope they add a new boss and make the core a drop from the boss. That way, it's very difficult to get and is more akin to getting something like the beacon.

@Ralsia

4 ай бұрын

Only if the Mace is enchantable with mending, the durability seems meh

@rainbowdash3419

4 ай бұрын

@@RalsiaI think they will do that just like they did with the brush, mending unbreaking and such.

imagine what would of happened if the mace was out when steve was added to smash bros ultimate

@EverettLewis-dc6hf

4 ай бұрын

He's already the best character in the game and S+ tier. That would have literally made him SS tier.

Nah, I think of it as a more high risk high reward kinda thing.

The mace is actually a pretty great late-game weapon, since you can 1-hit kill any enemy (even bosses) with enough height (gotten to, for example, by using a precise elytra dismount for the higher health ones). I've never gotten a trident, because they are so rng-dependent (and I'm horrible at fighting them), but I'll probably go out of my way to try and get this one. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a trident, but I'd probably never use it except for maybe riptide.

@sevendust141

4 ай бұрын

Fly in the rain with riptide 3, you will regret wondering. Its so fast, with a little practice, the game will not be able to keep up with loading chunks.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

True

I think the Mace currently follows the sword model. That's why you can remove cobweb and deal 7 damage. I feel like they are gonna change a lot of things before the release.

What about a weight enchantment that makes the damage scale quicker but also scales the fall damage received (if missed) much quicker.

@Sentinel07

4 ай бұрын

That seems to me like it could be worked around by slow falling potions, but I haven’t seen if the mace still does its mechanics with the slow falling effect

@InitialDreadly

4 ай бұрын

Which if you had watched the video before posting this comment, you would have seen that it doesn't work with slow falling. Because toycat tested exactly that like half way in@@Sentinel07

I think Geminislay is going to love this weapon

@hilike6507

4 ай бұрын

Who is that a popular YTber

@qq-me2vo

4 ай бұрын

yes, geminitay sometimes called geminislay or gem for short

@knulllord654

4 ай бұрын

I think iskall will like it. Not sure about gem tho...

@Amityz72323

4 ай бұрын

she’s going to be so chaotic omt

@Living_Murphys_Law

4 ай бұрын

Oh man, I'm going to love to see how the Lifers will use this.

Oh man. The dragon knocks you into the air, and you use the mace to off it on the way back down. 😂

@SupersuMC

4 ай бұрын

S T R A T E G Y

@XYGamingRemedyG

4 ай бұрын

@@SupersuMC LMAO well there's way better strategies than a possible miss and death, but this would certainly be a sweet "Uno reverse" moment.

Finally, a Minecraft weapon that's not based on who can click better

Mace Unique Enchantment whether nerfed or not: Auto-Target/Aerodynamic (if not existed yet): When falling while holding the mace, the player automatically move his trajectory slightly to the closes enemy below, this ensure that you can land a hit even your target move slightly or try to move away a bit. Wind Charged/Charged: When falling while holding the mace higher, it will charged up, with a bit of damage/or not, BUT has now a bit of aoe damage and more knockback, (stun/slow can be good to) Changes to Mace: 1. Less Range than Sword/Hoe. (a single rod for a handle) 2. Can't Cut through cobweb easily like the Sword. (Bludgeoning not Slashing) 3. Don't make the sword and mace too similar. (it breaks immersion) 4. Mace can ignore armor, like lether, half with iron & gold, bit with diamond and netherite (in reality maces are effective against armored enemies), (if this haven't added yet) 5. Mace attack speed slower than a sword BUT has more damage overall. (equal to the netherite sword) (this way, its ineffective in close combat, and need to have and change to other weapons) 6. Adding aoe effect to improve immersion. 7. Other Enchantments like Unbreakable & Mending made possible (it's still rare overall, even how op it is), (if you get it easily with servers, they didn't do their job well) Edit: 8. Shields also reduce the knockback, absorbs more damage than armor do from the mace. 9. An Enchantment that is specialized to protect you against the mace (which is also rare, not as much as the mace itself): Blunt Force Resistance: protects you more from blunt, like punch and the mace, less with swords, axes and tridents, (this is possible if they expand the type of damage more, which complicate combat further thou)

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

I think the capacity of the mace to do more damage the more you're falling should be an enchantment only available in the trial chamber. And we can replace it with another effect less Op giving players a purpose to use it in more common situations, like a percentage to stun enemies or maybe to slow them down. I also think if the mace is a rare weapon, maybe changing her look for something magical or spectacular can be cool

@dawntreader1247

4 ай бұрын

it does have a knock back as a secondary effect

@alliinase9076

4 ай бұрын

You already need a breeze rod from the trial chambers to craft the mace (regardless of whether they change the method of obtaining the heavy core) so that would be a little pointless imo

Can't wait for mace speedrun strats.

@toycat

4 ай бұрын

I think this is too impractical sadly, or it would be the fastest way to kill the dragon by far

@Ben_202

4 ай бұрын

@@toycatis vault loot random, or based on the seed? Cuz if it is seed based, it could be used for seed based speedruns

@ineophobe

4 ай бұрын

​@@Ben_202if it's random, get ready for some casino gameplay (piglins 2)

@BenjaminUltrakill

4 ай бұрын

@@ineophobecreature of slop spotted 👀

@xrafter

4 ай бұрын

​@Ben_202 Even if you were able to find a trial chamber and got the heavy core within competitive limits then you got the problem of actually getting up and hitting the dragon which cpuld lead to death

Wind charges should be loadable into the mace, allowing one you launch oneself up if the mace does not contact a hitbox. This way you can strike the ground with the mace first to up-launch yourself to hit on the comedown.

@ryanjohnson7757

4 ай бұрын

I think that'd make a lot of sense considering the heavy core seems to have a hole on 4 of its sides, as if there's space inside for something to be contained in.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

i think the mace should also double as an item to break glass-like blocks quickly

@kanimou

4 ай бұрын

real

I think cobwebs would be a pretty OP synergy here, not only can you trap your target in one spot for when you drop on them, but also even if you still miss, if you land in the cobwebs, you won’t take the fall damage.

@kevinaguirre9306

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I could see cobweb, wind charge, into mace lol

Anakin:I have the high ground other person: so it’s only 50% extra damage 🤓 Anakin:*pulls out mace

As a way of balancing out the Mace’s considerable power, and to make its behavior style more unique compared to the other melee weapons, I believe the Mace should need to be “charged up”, aka raised above the player’s head, and timed correctly in order to inflict critical damage, or in order to activate another specialized attack. If you look at how horse jumping works in Minecraft, where the player needs to charge up and time the jump correctly in order to reach maximum height, I think this same charging / timing system should be applied to the Mace attack. I think this would better fit the way a heavy Mace would be utilized in real life, a bit slow and lumbering but devastating, and would help make the Mace skill set more unique, unlike any other melee weapon.

@Ccubed92

4 ай бұрын

Lol really comparing real life to a block game

@xdsweatypalms5296

4 ай бұрын

I think the way it is is good. Though, I hate to say it, it will probably have a max damage of 250. You can't easily use it in pvp because your opponent can just move out of the way. I wonder if it can be blocked by the shield

@realtwovo

4 ай бұрын

​@xdsweatypalms5296 i dint thibk it should have a cap. Honestly its impractical pass a 10 block jump

@xdsweatypalms5296

4 ай бұрын

@@realtwovo breeze charges boost you up and negate fall damage, if you click fast enough you can summon enough to launch you 60 blocks high. Even if you miss you won't take damage

@rlachiecyce

4 ай бұрын

@@xdsweatypalms5296 wind charge fall damage cancellation is based on the last wind charge you used, so if you use multiple wind charge to scale up 60 blocks, and not use another when close to the ground, you will take fall damage.

I would love for someone to beat the Warden/Wither/Ender Dragon in survival. It would actually be impressive. Going through that much effort makes it balanced. Also, if you’re fighting a player, they’re usually smarter enough to avoid you. Getting in the hit won’t be easy. High risk high reward. A player can use a bow as a defense even.

@EmperorPenguin1217

4 ай бұрын

Nah it’s all risk minimal reward. The setup needed outweighs any benefit

@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180

4 ай бұрын

​@@EmperorPenguin1217no the reward for actually landing your hits is quite the big one.

@EmperorPenguin1217

4 ай бұрын

@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180 Problem is is that the reward isn’t worth finding a rare specific structure for a weapon that requires a very high amount of setup and even the mobs where it would’ve been most effective already have extremely easy ways to kill them

The mace is now my favourite weapon and it isnt even out yet

@SupersuMC

4 ай бұрын

It's out, just not out out. ;-)

@knulllord654

4 ай бұрын

Same

Has everyone in the world forgotten the Potion of leaping? That combo would be Devastation incarnate.

Wait, the heavy core would be an amazing boss drop. The boss of the trial chamber could have a chance of dropping it.

Because the mace hits so hard from just two blocks, an idea would be to brew Jump Boost 2 so you can always proc that 1-hit on mobs. Pair that with the new Density enchant, and you have yourself a weapon of mass destruction.

Considering hoe much potential time and efford u may need to get the items to make one mace it makes sense it has insane potential. Now for its enchants nothing on those yet but u would assume some would be maybe removed but unbreaking and mending likely being kept.

I think the best use for the mace are wither farms. Or maybe ender dragon grinding?

This would be a good time to add an enchantment that reduces the damage taken from the mace. Make it a chest plate only enchantment since we don’t have any of those. Or better yet just add another item/armor piece that does that.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

As far as enchantments go, I think that something like channeling would work well. If they really want to lean into the risk/reward side of things, an enchantment that adds velocity to your fall (an only to the fall) on right click would work really well; especially if they add a tag that means that using the enchantment partially negates the fall damage resistance of feather falling, making sure that making that hit really matters if you use the downward burst.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

It could be

What does thorns do if you hit an entity??

I saw everyone talking about this being overpowered but I was just waiting to see what ibxtoycat thought. I’ve been waiting for this video!

I think they can make the Smithing table useful. Combine turtle helmet with any other helmet type that will halve the damage done to head gear (or just make it so the turtle helmet will shatter in place of the damage dealt by the Mace)

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

So does feather falling affect the outcome? Will you be able to get a critical hit

Learning the heavy core's drop chance was a trip for me after getting it on my 2nd vault. I think I've used up all my luck

obviously they will balance it, with a limit and possibly enchantments to increase max

If not it will be when I'm done with it

Gosh, I really hope they don't nerf it in the future. I say it's powerful, but very balanced already

By the time 1.21 releases, it has to be at least enchantable. Most likely yes

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

Since the mace is a heavy core and a breeze rod, will the blaze rod have a heavy core varient

@Bananax60

4 ай бұрын

Fire aspect mace with a fire shockwave

I feel like it'd be better used with the Elytra than just falling, because the former actually takes skill to land a hit. Also, it's not as precious a weapon as you make it out to be, since you can (bug or not) enchant it in the main version of Minecraft, Java.

It would be really cool if you could enchant it with Fire Aspect. Imagine if it deal fire damage in the Shockwave maybe setting leave on fire? That would be cool

Has anyone else realized in the video with Ulraf today the table behind the birch trapdoor that looks like the frying table!!! 😮

it needs a bit more rework like instead of having to time it to hit if u fall from like 20 blocks its a garenteed shockwave type of attack(just like sword having sweep attack) and it needs its own enchants or enchants in general and it SHOULD BE 3D in held hand

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

There’s definitely going to be a couple Mace advancements

Imagine an enchantment for the mace that gave you more mobility, like there's one for the trident. My thought could be a momentum enchantment that pulls you in the direction of your swings. I think that'd be pretty awesome.

I think it should stay as is because it's funny. Plus you need a proper setup for the big damage anyway. The big pillar falls onto players won't be as easy when they're running around

Flying downward with elytra causes the damage boost to be applied I think minimum you have to fly downward at an of 15 degrees from the horizon via my tests, i don’t know what the minimum flight speed needed is but there seems to be one I turned on subtitles to check for the “mace smashes” text The damage from the smash seems to scale exactly based off the starting Y level of the flight and at what Y level you attack at

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

How does the mace intercats with shields? I think by tweaking it from ignoring shields to blocked hit not counting and attacker dying can really change it impact on pvp.

Amazing 💯

I think the mace honestly needs to be a lesson to the community to let Mojang take their time. I'd appreciate if they would communicate with the community more, but honestly this shows we really do need to "let Mojang cook" to borrow ibxtoycat's phrase. I'm pretty excited to see this be implemented.

Toycat, how do shields work against the mace? Do they block it? If so, does the mace user still receive fall damage?

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

I wonder if it only registers the player swinging the mace's velocity or if it counts for other mobs/ players speed. Can you smack a mob falling from the sky for lethal damage? Can you yeet your friends as they fly near like a foul ball?

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

Mace + strength effect combo is going to be absolutely insane

I’m ready to watch the mlg mace clips

yes

Super jump charge or extreme knocknack enchatment would be OP

That thumbnail image is beautiful

So slow falling arrows would be a good pvp defence?

In java edition using the mace the elytra work fairly consistently if you fly strait down, but you lose the benefit of canceling fall damage.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes maybe

I have some ideas. 1. What if the Mace is unenchantable but... when it breaks its drops the " Heavy core " but has a slight chance of it breaking without dropping..( similar to that of a thrown eye of ender ) 2. If enchantable, I think it should be a enchantment that reduces the durability damage . ( the mace durabily decreases according to the Hieght or something like that. 3. enchant that gives more damage per block fall

what i would give for the mace to have an enchantment that allows to break 3x3 in front like in modded.

Should Minecraft ever have a Geneva Convention this will be a banned weapon

If you are in the rain, use a Riptide Trident to fly up and strike mobs with the Mace when you fall down. You can kill the Warden in three hits without even needing to build a large tower. It is literally a god combo, using the two special weapons Minecraft released.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

Actually, the strongest weapon before the mace was a fully drawn power 5 flame bow 1 bow.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

I like the little joke in reference to getting your ear cleaned, clever.

with the elytra in java it is incredibly easy to just fly into the air, take off your elytra in one click, use the mace, then put the elytra back on in one click again so the mace doesn't really negate elytra at all

Can't wait to use this in skywars when I do a sneak attack from above lol

finally now you can literally say, "Haha! Its's over bro I have the high ground"

Like I suggested, in echoes live stream of this, I think they should add a gravity enchantment, send out a shockwave that launches mobs or player into the air certain amount of blocks gravity level three will be five blocks gravity level two will be 2.5 gravity level one will be one. Five. blocks or maybe add an enchantment, cold thunder where you literally send out a shockwave of electricity and it shocks the enemies around where you hit the mace something to that effect

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yep

The Mace might become my main weapon. I have a wither skeleton farm, so I already have strength and jump boost beacons all over my world. I can already one-shot a lot of things with Strength + Smite V axe, but the mace will allow me to one-shot endermen too. Plus, I won't have the long attack cooldown of the Netherite Axe (Java obviously)

its balanced out by the rarity of the heavy core and risk of going to the trial chambers (question can you put mending on it?)

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

You can

Add Channeling to Mace and raise base normal damage (similar to Trident damage maybe). Would just be a possibly more fun, unique way to use a weapon than how the trident does. Or maybe do like more damage to just Undead mobs than the base damage when enchanted with Channeling. Only Channeling - not able to use Mending or Unbreaking.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

Keep the damage output, modify the recipe to require 7 netherite blocks around it, and also require a new smelter that operates at a "higher temp" to smelt the netherite and the heavy core.

Perhaps decreasing its reach to less than that of a sword while decreasing the damage boost per block and capping off the max damage possible might be the way to go. In turn, add two unique enchants like the trident: one to increase its shockwave power (call it something like "microburst") and one to increase its damage build up per block fallen ("freefall / weighted" maybe?). Make the latter enchant mutually exclusive to sharpness.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

That true

Fun fact: this video was uploaded an hour ago for me. It is currently 6:27 AM in the morning for me.

@catsdogswoof3968

4 ай бұрын

Ok?

The fact that we can use the Ender Dragon's launch attack against her is amazing, but also sad. I feel bad about crushing Jean's skull with a heavy metal hammer 😥

is it posible the horses were surviving bc of the feather falling? maybe the enchantment is messing with the formula somehow

10:03 Toycat next to an ocelot is so cute

I believe the amount of damage a creature takes from the mace is partly dependent on how much they take from fall damage. Horses are built for fall damage, which explains their resiliance.

@catsdogswoof3968

4 ай бұрын

That doesnt really make sense

I think there should be a penalty for spam swinging it. Like cool down like there is on the wind charge sk that if you swing to early you can't swing again.

I would love to see a mobility enchantment for the mace. Like a riptide equivalent.

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Yes

i think one think they could do is remove the crit mechanic for the mace, the de damage doesn't scale so fast. As it is i think it has the potential to remove a lot of use for the axe. The axe already had that kind of damage from critical hits, plus enchantmens to raise the damage, so i think the mace being able to hit kill from so low steal some use of the axe. If the crit is not aplied to the mace, you don't really loose it's damage potential, but you'd have to go a bit higher (and risk a bit fall damage), so the axe would still be better than one block jump attacks from the mace

@dandsw9750

4 ай бұрын

Maybe

:O Your render distance is large enouph to see the outer end islands from the main end island?!?!?!?!?!

13:30 correction: Either your doing it wrong or is different on java. Eltyra does work with mace (maybe it connected to flying speed instead of change of height, since you were only doing slow passes)

@catsdogswoof3968

4 ай бұрын

Only fall speed

I want the next weapon they add to be a lance that gets more damage when used while sprinting with a horse.

I’m glad that’s it’s OP. I don’t think it should be nerfed.

I think theres a new step in pvp i think every opening to fight always starts with an elytra then swapping to chestplate to fall then land a hit

I think if pvp is a concern and I don't think it should be considering the amount of setup needed, instead of changing the mace you could have a helmet enchantment that reduces the damage from falling anvils and the mace. Though a common complaint at least on java is that the player is too hard to kill with full gear.

Does it hit through shields?😅

I mean can't you just watch the inside of the vaults until the core shows up then time the unlock?

Can’t a sharpness 5 netherite sword also one hit a player on a crit or am I doing my math wrong?

Imagine if it gets its own exclusive repair enchantment.