So yea, there's a typo in the drive section. Oops.. More like "under $70K"

@hardeyshinanurudeen446

2 жыл бұрын

Which mercedes suv is the best to buy

@ChristianGiorgioToronto

2 жыл бұрын

There's also a typo in your title "... E 450 Reveiw"

@itguru2037

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChristianGiorgioToronto 😂

At the risk of sounding like an old fogey, I will say I remember a time when the E-Class and S-Class both had tremendous presence on the road (or even when parked). Now, I feel like both sedans are designed to look smaller than they actually are, and distinguishing the E-Class in particular from the smaller C-Class is nearly impossible if you're not close enough to read the badge. Also, the interior of the S-class looks like a pachinko parlor.

@s50201

2 жыл бұрын

Weirdly the CLA has a really nice, upscale look. The E-class design is kinda doughy, pudgy, not too attractive imo. The S-class is stately enough, but it could use a little more edge.

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

Having had a C32 AMG the styling today is too ovid and not very distinctive. My CT6 turns more heads than any MB sedan today.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

I like the overall shape, but the front end is much too bland and soft. The Audi is similarly conservative, but they've given it some edges that make it much more interesting. The 5-Series is attractive, but generic BMW. I suppose that kind of clear family look is good, but does it have to be so predictable?

@whereisthedollar

2 жыл бұрын

@@s50201 Bland as toast bread.

@dailystriver2727

2 жыл бұрын

No it’s not impossible to tell the difference between the c and a. Especially in terms of size you should be able to just look at the car and tell if it’s a c or e based on its width and chunkyness since the e is bigger than c in body shape

the front end just doesn’t look like an E-class to me. Looks like a first gen CLA meets a C-class. They should have given it the S-class grill with hood ornament so it would live up to previous E-Classes from the 90s.

@b1uezea1ot

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wish they kept the double line LED strip thing on front that pre-refreshed model had, so there's more distinction from C/CLA.

@terribrad24

2 жыл бұрын

you know, depending on the line you can get the hood ornament or not.

@Uninfluenceable

2 жыл бұрын

@@terribrad24 not anymore

@ClaGaCla

2 жыл бұрын

@@b1uezea1ot I feel the same! In addition to making the models harder to tell apart I also think that the jagged DRLs don't fit the otherwise smooth curve design on the rest of the exterior as well as the former 'eyebrow' look did. I found that to be really beautiful. The jagged DRLs look less elegant and more angry, which I know it what is in right now, but still... And on top of all that, the jagged DRLs look more similar to some other brands' DRLs, like some Audis and Lexuses and Fords, for example, which I just think is a pity. The previous DRLs made the Mercedes stand out (in a good way!), and these new ones....don't.

@spock949

17 күн бұрын

yeah it looks too plain.

Merc's decision to eliminate the option of traditional "luxury styling" of front grill and stand-up hood ornament really stinks.

@bobbbobb4663

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but hope is not lost. The option is still there for European cars. I don’t see why one wouldn’t fit a US spec car.

@AutoEnthusiastJC

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. This new E-class looks like a first gen CLA (and i don’t mean that as compliment). Thank God the S-Class still attempts to look like luxury rather than a sports GT-R or something.

Much prefer the regular size horizontal infotainment screen in the E class as opposed to the tablet size vertical ones that we’re seeing in the S and C class.

@PassportBrosBusinessClass

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I have a 2015 S-class Nicest interior ever.

@damilolaakanni

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. The new screens make the S class look like a Tesla inside.

@seannewill5520

2 жыл бұрын

I have found the vertical screens much more appealing and useful if properly designed. I also prefer the ld Tesla's vertical to their new horizontal one.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's an excellent design, and I suspect more cars will move that way. It's right up at eye level and integrates well with the instrument panel. It's also the correct orientation for displaying the backup camera image. Nobody needs a humongous display on a moving vehicle, at least not before they're truly self-driving.

@benjaminsmith2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni Not really. The Tesla has a horizontal screen and basically nothing else (at least the 3 and Y). The S class still has a ton of lux in terms of trim and it's not really minimalist/stark like the Tesla. It's just different and not quite as elegant as its predecessor. The E will go in the same direction as the S when it is updated in 2 years or so.

I have watched several videos in my research on the Mercedes E class sedan. Yours is by far the best I’ve watched, delivering the details I want clearly and objectively. Thank you!

Honestly the E 450 is the only sedan I'd ever want. There's just something about it that makes it the perfect combo of sport, luxury and elegance that just no other manufacturer has met. Hell even MB hasn't met this blend in any of their other vehicles. The S class is just an executive transport, the C class is just a sports car. Really if money is no object, you can not go wrong with an E class, but you can with just about anything else.

@spock949

17 күн бұрын

I had a 2016 E 400, sold it 2 years ago for a Tesla 3 LR. I miss the MB all the time... it's just such an awesome car.

Have to say that hybrid electric motor driven air conditioner is the most ingenious bit of Mercedes engineering introduced in modern times. Regardless of engine speed [on or off], the A/C blows a consistent volume of cool air. That is the supernatural driving insight Mercedes was built on. And your explanation was delivered with Alex on Auto's classic comprehension.

@mikeicee

2 жыл бұрын

lol just like a 2004 Toyota Prius? LMAO

@LawrenceMarkFearon

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeicee Priuses were for plebeians.

@mikeicee

2 жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceMarkFearon LOL 2.0L 4 cylinder E-Class man has spoken.

@cizzlen07

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly and so eloquently well said

Without the sense of scale, everything about this car looks like a C Class

@mikeicee

2 жыл бұрын

It actually shares the same platform and so does the new S-Class. MB has gone crazy

I have owned and driven the 2021 E450 for 9 months now. The 2022 model was not in stock due to Covid at the time. Infact, I had to wait for two months for the Hermes communications Module to arrive and be subsequently retrofitted due to supply chain issues. With the extra options that I purchased, the retail price should have been $71,060, but I had to pay an extra $17,500 on top of the MSP because the lot was empty. The car has been a blessing and it definitely meet up to expectation in terms of performance, comfort, convenience, and safety. It is my fourth Mercedes Benz and the best so far. Am loving it!

26 MPG combined is very impressive, for something with almost 400 HP May be the world's best daily driver

@normt430

2 жыл бұрын

My CT6 2.0E plug-in sees 36-38 mpg when the 40 miles of battery is used up. It makes 335 hp and 432 lb-ft of torque.

I really love the “ off road “ wagon version....(Volvo XC70 owner)....I need to rewatch your review. On that..

You did a superb job. VERY Detail oriented hitting every aspect of the car! You give more details and info than my sales rep.

Thanks Alex. I’ve learned so much from your channel over the years.

I am with you Alex. The Mercedes E450 is the best luxury sedan in my opinion. The last Mercedes that I had featured a 3.0 liter in-line six, and it's sound was described as "tearing silk".

Best review and comparison out there . This needs to be a a training video for Mercedes dealer sales personnel.

I would go with the MB 450 4matic.

Great review. Can’t wait for your assessment of the EQS. I’m slightly obsessed with it.

@Luma_29

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Georgeos vehicle

Nice to see a great review from you on an MBZ.

alex, thanks for your in depth reviews, this one is no exception, your commitment to the cause is highlighted at 8:25.

You had me at amber turn signals

I’ve had 3 benzs since 2014 and they depreciate like a rock.

@itguru2037

2 жыл бұрын

This is why you always lease a Mercedes Benz

I have an E300 and love the pep and handling. Plus at 70 on a flat interstate highway, I get as much as 42 MPG. Prior I had. a 2005 E500 wagon with 190,000 miles on it and a 2010 E350 with 89,000 miles on it and this 2019 E300 is my favorite. I tied to buy a new E350 but none were available because of the chip shortage. I found this 2019 with only 2,782 on it and I snapped it up. The Volvo S80 did not handle like an E Class.

I recently bought a new 2023 E450. No regrets. It is a fantastic car with a sublime power plant. I can get 32 mpg on the highway in eco mode. The straight six is silky smooth! MB was blowing out the last of the 23’s and it was a good price, as well. I couldn’t be happier with it.

Love you reviews Alex. Two points: 1. The A6 is roomier than it's German causins and should have a mention. 2. Can't help wondering how a non-air suspension E class would feel like to drive. Four corner air suspension in any vehicle in my own experience makes it a lot more relaxing and likable.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Air suspensions may be lovely, but they age poorly and are very expensive to repair, often leading to premature crushing of otherwise nice cars.

Alex, you mentioned in your video that you might do a video of the MUBX infotainment. What is the Golden standard every rate off of? Also, I am starting to look at the E-Class wagon vs.XC90 cross country wagon. Who has the better infotainment connectivity system, which might be a good video for the viewers?

@azerogliev6520

2 жыл бұрын

BMW is the gold standard

i'm usually annoyed by reviewers but this is an excellent and informative review

Where would you put the coupe version of this car, and is it worth looking at off-lease E450 coupes coming onto the market based on your impressions between the cabriolet and now the sedan? Reliability seems to be better when it's optioned without the air cushion suspension but then is it even the same ride anymore haha

Bigger batteries to drive air conditioning and starting the engine is the way to go if you want the start-stop system to be worth it in hot climates. Which is why I've disable it all the time since here is summer all year long.

I wish Mercedes offered the option of rear wheel drive in more trims and models. There’s too much mandatory AWD in the Mercedes lineup. Choice is better.

I really love the "off road" wagon version....( Rolls-Royce Cullinan owner).... I need to rewatch your review. On that..

So I have the 2020 MB E450 and I love it. Got it way, way below $65k MSRP because of Covid pricing and even with 1.9% interest after $20k down. Would have loved the hybrid model, cuz I’m in Texas and run the A/C about 7 months a year. But I absolutely love this car, and everything Alex pointed out is spot on. I did go a year with only putting 400 miles on it because of quarantine and WFH. But now that it’s my daily driver, I can’t do anything be feel comfort and confidence while pushing this baby.

@ryanwilliams1536

2 жыл бұрын

How much do you pay a month? Just got mine yesterday in love 🥵

@DariusSinclair

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanwilliams1536 Around $500 a month!!! My payments are only like $425 for 72 months, but I should be able to have it paid off in 4 years.

@Karma-hy6ki

Жыл бұрын

@@DariusSinclair now can u please share how maintenance and repair has been? I have heard horrible stories about the expensive bills and it’s making me second guess buying one. Do u pay alot, cuz if so imma go switch to a Lexus

@DariusSinclair

Жыл бұрын

@@Karma-hy6ki hey. So I've had the car for all this time. And have had no issues. Just getting regular maintenance. Apple CarPlay seems to be the only problem for me, since I have an iPhone 14 Pro. But it's very rare. Basically have to restart Apple CarPlay. I'm at around 50k miles now, because now I'm driving to work daily in a big city. Im this isn't my first Benz. So I'm used to maintenance prices. It's like $300 for A service and $600-650 for B service. I also got the 120k mile extended warranty. But I do like the Lexus LS 500. My wife works at Toyota, so I can get a good deal on it. But I do absolutely love my E class.

@Karma-hy6ki

Жыл бұрын

@@DariusSinclair Thank you so much for responding, i appreciate ur input. I have an 800 credit score and 30k set aside. I will save up another 10k and I’m TORN between a brand new Lexus F sport ES 350 for 60k out the door or a decent jacked up E class for 70k out the door. I can’t justify that much in a Lexus aka better Toyota and the benz maintenace got me scared. I really want the benz cuz I don’t wanna get it in my 30s and 40s and want it in my 20s. But I want to get atleast 70k miles out of it without major issues. I’d prob drive 8k miles a year. What do u think? Should I just go the safer route? I def want a new car regardless. It will be my first fully owned personal car at 26, I been driving my dads beaters since 19. And how much is the 120l warranty, I’d 1000% get it.

Father in law has one, it's one of the finest sedans on the market. Roommate had one from a couple gens ago, perhaps 2011 or 2013...I forget. That too was a great car, built to last. I doubted it for a while, but the E class is the standard. It may not have the athletic form the CT5/CTS, BMW 5 series, but it is a proper RWD, longitudinal engine built with quality and minus the overly teched' out issues that come in the form of Audis.

Isn't it Burr meyester audio. Not Burr Mister. :0). I'm sure I'm not the first to say that. I love the E450. The leather is so nice. Love your videos, Alex. You do a fantastic job cutting through the hype.

great review Alex

That trunk lid motor doesn't mess around!

Sounds like It’s My Taste as well Alex!

Honestly Mercedes has watered down their brand image IMO. They don’t try to go above and beyond, as far as exterior design. Pump out a basic sedan body, and slap a star on it. But I guess it’s about the driving experience nowadays

Even when I dislike the car I still watch the videos you make Alex. Your videos are so informative and entertaining! I am just not feeling the new Mercs. Something is missing.

From mild to wild. Smoothly said my friend

8:25 the car tried to slice Alex in half

@bassandtrebleclef

2 жыл бұрын

That's a fast trunk. I still don't understand why you need yet another superfluous motor for such a thing, but the fact that you could cause bodily harm to someone is a plus.

@garrettw99

2 жыл бұрын

@@bassandtrebleclef the power trunk, even on SUVs, is something I’ve never understood. Maybe it’s because I’m not old and don’t have back pain. Seems like another thing to break, and I’m usually a fan of gimmicky motorized things.

@joeb4294

2 жыл бұрын

I was afraid that his hand was about to get crushed

@garrettw99

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeb4294 “Hey Mercedes, crush my hand”

That front definitely does not look like a 70k car. The previous gen looked better

Why is it "compared to -40K competitors"? A typo? What I would get in this category 5-series. If I am cheap, the Genesis. The E-series styling is very much MEH.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

2 жыл бұрын

oops. Typo!

Really good review for this kind of car.

Is there an option for second row climate? Here in Australia, I can't find any mention at all - major fail IMHO if it's limited to dual zone. Once again Alex, you fail to mention Audi - why??? The A6 has tri-zone climate as standard, and decent toe room. What have you got against Audi?

What suv have you test that has the best ride quality on bad roads and less cabin noise?

Would have been interested in you expounding on why the Lexus ES Hybrid isn’t comparable, as a mid size luxury hybrid sedan. At $55k in upper trim w/ optional headlights, it’s quite a bit cheaper, but are the vehicles really in that different a class?

@gregsullivan7408

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, and additionally, the ES has more rear leg and toe room IMHO. (the E-class has a better trunk though). As a chauffeur, I place high importance on space. 😉

@doctorisout

2 жыл бұрын

ES is fwd only right? Verboten!

@competitiveautomotive5457

2 жыл бұрын

Dude a Lexus ES front wheel drive vs a RWD German vehicle? 😆😆🤣🤣😂😂. It’s not even close to competitive. The RWD options are better no two ways about it The Es is a complete joke since it’s literally a Camry that’s more expensive. If you place high importance on space go buy a Honda Accord lol

@johnthomas3863

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@competitiveautomotive5457 They are different cars, but judging whether the e class is really better is a huge question. The Lexus has more room inside everywhere PERIOD!!! The Trunk space in the Lexus is much bigger PERIOD.!!! The motor and transmissions, although not having the same power, are miles better in quality, dependability, and reliability (No question about it). The Lexus is damn near bulletproof. Now the Mercedes sells technology (which has a reputation to fail and need fixing) Mercedes marketing wows with lighting, engine power options, constant reminding of the heritage of years past and a life style. Mercedes fails at delivering the Best or Nothing, they charge for their name but their service department often lags behind that of Lexus. So yes the two vehicles are different cars that price in at 55,000 up and down, but only one can get you to 300,000 miles without emptying your bank account, and that would be Lexus

On a serious note: I like the E450 reviewed here, I'm just not sure I pick it over the competition. I like the dual LCD displays, the seat comfort, the driving dynamics, and most of the interior styling (not sure about the 4 big circular air vents). I just like little things in the others better. Audi interior tech is better. BMW may have better driving vehicles especially if you go into the M5 range. Lexus grill and interior styling is just ugly, so NO! And the Genesis does well enough in driving and looks great inside and out. I might lean toward the G80 here (or really the G90 but that's a different class of cars then this review). Great review Alex!

The rear seat room is probably the deal killer for me on this E series. I’ve always liked the Volvo S90 (had a S70 in the late 90s) but also think the GV70/80 is quite interesting after watching your reviews. But, probably waiting another year or two for things to settle down.

the honeymoon is over after 3 years with my wife Mercedes. She breaks my heart and I have to settle for $10k to get her out of my life

@itguru2037

2 жыл бұрын

Should have leased

1:40 honestly could pass as a Kia K900

Unlike the always changing interiors that date lineups…I like how Audi and Mercedes move slowly in exterior designs…even if a touch boring

Maybe it’s just me but I think that the face just looks too basic? Like for over 100k I think it could have more extravagant headlights/taillights.

You didn’t compare the 530e to this car. The plug in hybrid of the 530e seems to have much more capability compared to the the Mercedes that you tested.

Thanks For Sharing...

How about Leasing a E450 Alex?

i love these

E Class or 5 Series...with the inline 6s?

Downside of the 48 volts hybrid systems is that it dies when the car sits in showrooms. Plenty of dead brand new cars on MB World discussion board. They got rid of the analog clock. Apple Carplay and Android Auto are smaller than before. The touch buttons on the steering wheel are a downgrade from the previous steering wheels where it was easier to use and not cultured.

Minor nitpick: at 6:26, you put the 5 Series in the wrong spot for combined legroom. It should be just above the E-Class.

(My apologies, I think, therefore critique) Tour de force. Brilliant. Benchmark. I got giddy watching this review. This form is Archetype - multi-sensory - I now know what the 2021 E 450 'means.' Content made me feel smart. Realization of how much effort and knowledge goes into producing a review of this 'portend,' utility, value, again made me think "he likes us, he really likes us" (car buyers). I imagine manufactures are recognizing or should that you are or should be 'the' rising star in car buyer influencers. I am an above average consumers of auto reviews (I'm 72). For me no one does it better at this moment in time, at this momentous inflection point in 'car life', at this moment in the joy of driving as freedom. I trust your reviews, Alex. Well-done. I want one to give to a loved one. My true love is S Class.

Alex equates Genesis cars to Thanos when talking about luxury cars!! Genesis (Thanos): "And where did your review take you, right back to ME!!" 🤣

@mikeicee

2 жыл бұрын

my 2012 E-Class has factory Hyundia parts in it. So Genesis can't be bad.

Much like the 5 series, this E class is/has become our (American) drivers car! The S class and 7 series (same as the A-8) are the mini-limos for the Chinese marketplace these days. I'd take the E450/E53 or the 5 series (540) instead of the other BIG/HUGE players in this segment/market. The E class is the E ticket for my ride!

1990s Blackberries? I was using a blackberry in 2012! :D

The E-Class is still beautiful! Wow, it’s hot out there!! Stay cool, Alex!!

The Porsche inline 6 is pretty sweet too.

How does E-Class reliability and long term maintenance costs compare with competitors?

@competitiveautomotive5457

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously? 🤦‍♂️ if you have to ask you can’t afford it

@good.do.8

2 жыл бұрын

​@@competitiveautomotive5457 Well, if you're cross shopping Mercedes with Audi, BMW, Lexus (maybe even a Genesis) you're probably not concerned about affordability. However, ownership experience is what you're paying a premium for and reliability and long-term maintenance costs are a big part of that.

@competitiveautomotive5457

2 жыл бұрын

@@good.do.8 if you want reliability why would you buy a luxury car? Why not get a Toyota or Honda and save tens of thousands of dollars? Ownership experience will be inexpensive and maintenance costs will be lower

@good.do.8

2 жыл бұрын

​@@competitiveautomotive5457 You keep missing the point. Toyota and Honda are not Mercedes competitors. The question is amongst *competitors*.

@timw2083

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately Lexus no longer makes the GS. With a European an extended warranty would be a wise selection if you plan to keep it beyond the base warranty. The G80 from Genesis should be on your list. I have a GLE450 and looking to replace it this summer with a GV70 3.5TT

MB burning doing excellent job with GLx series but this E-class headlights are fugly but each to own

All though elegant, the E450's exterior is somewhat nondescript. The G80 has a more eye-catching exterior and maybe even the interior as well. My preference is the G80 for a variety of reasons.

@SpaceZeee

2 жыл бұрын

E class looks like a bigger A class lol Genesis is killing it

@12pm59

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceZeee my money is on the g80

@gregsullivan7408

2 жыл бұрын

As a chauffeur, I'd actually go for the Audi A6 over the E-Class or G80. Here in Australia, the base A6 is priced very well indeed, and unlike the E-Class, has tri-zone climate as standard. For the G80, one has to option a very expensive "luxury pack" to get second row climate. Also, the G80 has a small trunk, and no folding seats - the A6 has a large trunk, with folding seats. (I know the E-Class also has folding seats) I think "Audi" is a dirty word for Alex - he never seems to mention them. I'm perplexed.

So the logo not being as 'snazzy' as Mercedes' is a con for Volvo and not for Genesis? LOL, Volvo's logo may not be as snazzy as that of Mercedes but it's sure as heck snazzier that of Genesis!

@miraphycs7377

2 жыл бұрын

i noticed he seem to be very pro-Hyundai...

Mercedes uses the VDA-Norm(Verband Der Automobilindustrie) for the volume of the Car

I think i would get a lightly used Lexus ls500 for around 55-60k ! That thing will last forever and hold value. The e is nice tho but lacking presence to me😩

Ever since Lexus discontinued the GS model, I've been looking for alternatives. I'm torn between the E-Class and the 5 Series. Anyone else having a similar dilemma? Really disappointed with Lexus' decision.

my 48v battery just died last week. I just got my e450 4matic only 3month

It’s an icon. Unfortunately, the well known creaks are unacceptable at that price range. The 5 we had from 2006-2019 improved mildly on that issue. During that time, the 5’s and Macan’s felt like vaults, even on terrible Texas roads.

@SeanC773

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Something you don’t see in Audi’s or Porsche’s.

@KC-bv9kf

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeanC773 I think their typical clients like the flash of new tech, constant design changes, and name brand. We got the last 4 E’s on great lease deals through a dealer’s management. Even then, it became too annoying to keep getting. Maybe going to electric in the future will provide more rigidity with the heavy battery and lower center of gravity. By the way, I can’t wait until the day Brady has to pay the devil.

It's a benchmark for high depreciation and high repair expenses after 100K or so.

@itguru2037

2 жыл бұрын

Always lease a Mercedes.

Wish a car at this level would go back to analog speedometers/RPM instead of computer screen…the center screen is fine for tech bit imo going analog would make it look retro classy..

The pre-facelift one looks better imo

Compared to compact luxury sedans under $40,000?

The E class S class G class and gle and GLS ain’t no joke . They dominate the segment

German engineered, classy style! I'd buy one if I have the money!

You could be standing in front of a c for all I can tell

i really don't like the way the E class looks on the outside but like the interior and the lights. that genesis is very good looking all around....

Very nice car but be prepared to pay quite a bit for maintenance & repairs. And does the interior still squeak and creak? That was my biggest turnoff.

Mercedes is not about looks is really about tech and ride comfort

Compared to under $40,000 class?

Would love to have massaging seats. The rear bumper likes like a front bumper but in the back. More headroom than most but your head still almost touches the ceiling? Does that mean that in other vehicles you can’t sit upright? Rear seat backs are too upright for long comfort. Accord rear seating space looks cavernous compared to this car. Are they both classified as midsized? You would want to touch those panels under extreme cold or heat 🔥 conditions. Those 🦋 headrests are primo 👌. That brown leather looks like……. pudding. That wasted space on the infotainment screen is a waste of space and diminishes the usefulness of that space. Those steering wheel buttons look like something you’re likely to accidentally hit on a pretty regular basis.

BMW 530i has a plug in hybrid

@doctorisout

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. But its pretty weak. Unlike the x5 hybrid here

For me the capacitive steering "buttons" are a huge downgrade from pre-facelift as well the headlight design. They should have kept the old light shape.Looks like a sad hippo or something

Alex, Sedan, coupe, wagon and convertible, sounds like the 72 Chevy Chevelle.

I think I prefer either the BMW or Genesis. Maybe the Audi depending on the deal. Mercedes external look is too close to the C series, IMO, and that front is very much "meh". Interior is super nice though but those capacitive buttons on the wheel are not my jam.

I want to order the 450 but the 350s on the lot are tempting me..

I still think 5 series are better overall. But I agree that E class 6 cylinder models are one of the best midsize. Just rule out those 4 cylinder E class trims.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

True, because in this case the four isn't even more fuel efficient. Not much reason to get one when such a fine powertrain is offered.

Why did they get rid of the hood star? Now it looks like a CLA!

E450 or E350 anytime for me because I used a C classes 😂

Any voice commands? Miss the Hammer with each new E-Class.

Reliability and depreciation compared to the competition?

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Consumer Reports has been giving the last few years of the E-Class its top reliability rating. The first year after that generation was redesigned was bad, as is often the case, but the last few years of the model before that were better than average. Ones older than seven years or so have seriously poor reliability. That's pretty typical of German cars now, which can be fine for the first owner, but suffer expensive problems when they get older. That tends to cause serious depreciation, as well as making the older cars more trouble than they're worth.

@competitiveautomotive5457

2 жыл бұрын

If you have to ask, you can’t afford it

Not sure how “high roofline” equates to 1/2” of headroom. Sounds dangerous. Tight footwell and luxury vehicle don’t really sound like they belong in the same descriptive pot. I think we can include the G80 in the conversation with the S90 right? The motor and fuel economy are impressive. The room in the S90 says luxury while the compactness of the E450 does not. The Genesis and Volvo would be my considerations.

Genesis for me in this segment.

needs a proper grill with star on bonnet, not the amg design.