Is Tekken 8 abandoning their fanbase for new players?

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  • @Flintc08
    @Flintc083 ай бұрын

    People who say the game is fine just play the top characters and do well. There’s skill in some aspects but the lack of character diversity says a lot about the games current state. People are adapting by just picking the same 10 characters and saying “I finally leveled up after switching characters” Yea the top 10 characters have a better time winning = more fun. As long as you just remain a “yes man(woman)” about the games current state nothing will change. The rest of us are just left getting pelted by the top tiers in the name of the grind. The game is a mess…

  • @user-uc7yd7fn5s
    @user-uc7yd7fn5s3 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 is raising the bar with the scrub-fest

  • @powerfury
    @powerfury3 ай бұрын

    i strongly disagree that the end of tekken 7 was better than the beginning, and i think most high-tier players will agree if they're being honest about the balance and skill expression. with the exception of akuma (especially the fact that he was underexplored at the time), the character balance was the best in season 1. season 2 is my personal peak for tekken 7, even though it was a lot wackier with the balance due to geese, i thought the way he was implemented was done so well i can forgive affecting the balance. but beyond season 2 it got increasingly trashy. wall bounces were added after namco had identified that players had too much combo and wall damage... so they added a mechanic that allowed even more damage in some situations. kunimitsu's entire design was a testing grounds for the system mechanics in tekken 8. long-range, canned approaches with 50/50 (heat dash), reversal power crush, projectiles, and everything is a built-in guessing game. either way, i actually loved tekken 7 at release. i've actually played all the non-tag tekkens since tekken 2. but, i have avoided buying tekken 8 as i saw the writing on the wall, and from what i've seen and been told by my friends, it's worse than i even feared. several of my friends have gone back to tekken 7 already and don't even boot up 8 anymore.

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    damn thats wild. Idk outside balance I personally liked the end of Tekken 7 but I see your points and appreciate them.

  • @loto7197
    @loto71973 ай бұрын

    They haven't abandoned their core fanbase but they have devalued high level play. What would be considered intermediate play in past tekkens (rush down and mix ups) would have gotten you killed against someone who knew what they were doing. That style of play is now optimal in t8 because it forces people to hold unsteppable mix ups, guessing is inevitable in those situations and often you can die while having a massive lead for two wrong guesses while the opponent has heat. All of this means defensive play and patience (which is much more difficult than offence) is just too risky, game knowledge and experience doesnt carry you as far as it once did because you're risking a lot on a duck due to heat engagers. Overall this reduces the skill ceiling of the game and will lead to a lot of people getting bored, part of tekken's main appeal to anyone who treats it as a hobby rather than a casual game is the sheer amount of time it takes to get even halfway good.

  • @j.i.nthenobody54
    @j.i.nthenobody543 ай бұрын

    In my opinion, if they treated Heat like an actual super meter, and made you build it up over the match, the game would be better.

  • @JPROP-vb7sv

    @JPROP-vb7sv

    3 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @burnpisces7733
    @burnpisces77333 ай бұрын

    I think it’s relevant to bring up what season 2 in Tekken 7 did to ranked. Mfs I know stuck in green made it to ruler overnight. And since then I’ve lost faith in rank being even close to a representation of skill. Any mf who grinds hard enough can get to high ranks on cheese alone (especially in this game)

  • @PixelSubstream
    @PixelSubstream3 ай бұрын

    Yes, for new players who spend money like crazy

  • @DctrBread
    @DctrBread3 ай бұрын

    so the level, i started with tekken 7, and i cared about it pretty deeply, but eventually i no longer found it rewarding to continue learning it. I would say that tekken 8's design ethos was actually telegraphed in tekken 7, but tekken 8 took it a step further. t7 Every character was getting their wall pressure improved, getting mid options added to their mid-high/high-high strings, buffing the tracking properties on so many moves, getting stronger combos and corner carry, ADDING JULIA. My issue is that damage was very high and rushdown was very good, and then in each update they just made rushdown even better and damage even higher. Now we have tekken 8, the game is exciting, but i would rather compete in almost any other fighting game LOL

  • @Nova_Afterglow
    @Nova_Afterglow3 ай бұрын

    last video ima click on like this, cause im tired of hearing all this "i was the best at t7, so this NEW GAME should be exactly like the old game, but even MORE slowed down (cause i like to block uwu)" cope, seethe, mald. im watchin twitch weeklies where everyone is really having a blast competing with the game. "oh hes been playin tekken since 1873 he knows what hes saying when he says the mechanics are trash" oh okay so when i watch absolute savages in weeklies expertly playing tekken EIGHT who are NOT complaining about this stuff, that their opinion is invalid because its the opposite and they havent been playing tekken since the great depression? anyway. ima keep having fun with this game.

  • @jjtjp2469
    @jjtjp24693 ай бұрын

    For me, it's just the usual behavior that you tend to see once the Honeymoon Phase comes to an end, tbh

  • @Synapzze

    @Synapzze

    3 ай бұрын

    it happened in SF6 as well, the honeymoon phase ends and people complain about drive rush and perfect parry. As much as it is oppressive having the offense be this strong rn, I do appreciate when fighting games let the meta simmer and not change it every few weeks because people are complaining. Exceptions to this are game breaking stuff that should be hotfixed asap. Fighting games have forever been the type of game not to release fixes and balance patches for years, patches were non-existent and you have to wait for the super or ultimate version with the balance patch. I think mindset has shifted though to more frequent patches now that it is possible to do so, but I'm not sure it's all that healthy or interesting if the game changes so often (imo).

  • @bignoob2726

    @bignoob2726

    3 ай бұрын

    Nah, it really depends. It's more so when stupid mechanics are added that ppl get so upset

  • @ItsDonBro
    @ItsDonBro3 ай бұрын

    Start each round with half meter. Make these casuals work for the Ws. Jesus everyone mashes and nobody wants to DEATHMATCH. THIS SHIT IS LAME. I LOSE HEALTH FOR BEING DEFENSIVELY SMART. NO POINT IN BLOCKING. YOU JUST LOSE.

  • @dyrexionofthesharingan
    @dyrexionofthesharingan3 ай бұрын

    i've been watching a lot of gameplay on youtube, and a lot of new players who clearly casual playing but i do see them with really high ranks.. even Raijin. the reason for that is because T8 just isn't the same as T7 when it comes to rank points. in T7, if you have a huge rank difference, its just equivalent to getting no points between both players. but not in T8. And with that, combined with the bloat of casual players, just imagine what happens when casual players just keep running into each other. They are definitely ranking up, no problem, a Raijin rank can rank up with a Warrior rank..

  • @user-wd5pg9us9r

    @user-wd5pg9us9r

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol that's not how it works at all. If they are too far under you, you only get like 99 points for winning as the higher rank while they will rank up if they win.

  • @dyrexionofthesharingan

    @dyrexionofthesharingan

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh, but is it more points as compared to T7 or its just the same? to me, T8 seems like its more points if you ask me. ( I haven't really played T8 Ranked by the way, i just see from KZread players)

  • @shaghilathar3588

    @shaghilathar3588

    3 ай бұрын

    @@dyrexionofthesharinganIts not that you get more points but the whole system of points has changed in a worse way, tons of players have talked about the point system but even outside that the number of ranks is less and you cant lose points until you reach warrior. So the actual ranks are literally not the same, fujin in t7 is simply not fujin in t8

  • @kennyulysse2163
    @kennyulysse21633 ай бұрын

    Support ya boy

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral6303 ай бұрын

    My hottest take ever is that we are in the “get the bag so the next game can be good” era

  • @priincelegiit
    @priincelegiit3 ай бұрын

    Game is super scrubby people who were hard stuck at red in t7 now Bush in to Tekken king too many carry characters like feng, DJ, dragonuv ling etc the skill gap is a lot smaller

  • @bignoob2726
    @bignoob27263 ай бұрын

    Dvj looks like he belongs in a different game now 😂

  • @shins3kai567
    @shins3kai5673 ай бұрын

    They're doing this to bring more casual and to make more money, just like they pulled off this battle pass update while the game being broken and has many connection issue

  • @jinpachichulo7561
    @jinpachichulo75613 ай бұрын

    Yes, but they've been doing that since Tekken 6 when they betrayed the loyal fans who bought an expensive PS3 only to release it on Xbox. Not only that but releasing trash characters like Lards, Bob, Leo, Alyssa and we can even go back to DR with Lili. Final Fantasy characters that are not martial artist and don't belong in Tekken. They've been trying to go mainstream for so long and they've sacrificed the integrity of the game. Dumbing the game down. "This ain't Tekken 7, it's a new game, you have to adapt." Scrub take. It should still be Tekken. Not Marvel vs Capcom Lite. When both pros and mid level legacy players are complaining, somethings wrong.

  • @BeretBay
    @BeretBay3 ай бұрын

    8:08 They are exaggerating, but this is not what that means. When people say that low rank players are now blue ranks etc. they are referring to the fluff that this game offers. i.e. The no demotion below green + the fact that when you get demoted, you only lose points for the match and you don't actually reset the rank you got demoted to.

  • @kato093

    @kato093

    3 ай бұрын

    There's no exaggeration. Most rulers and blue ranks wouldn't be higher than warrior in Tekken 7. Green rank was the rank with most players in Tekken 7. Red ranks HAD the most players a month ago. Now most of those red ranks are rulers and blue ranks. So yes, green ranks are indeed rulers and blue ranks. I've played many of those. They have zero fundamentals and get entirely carried by strings, gimmicks and flowcharts with 30 to 50 defense. I don't play ranked so I'm ruler after 60 matches. I stick to quick play where people aren't as cancerous and don't use top tiers all the time. And my god, I find so many ruler and blue rank scrubs. In Tekken 7, ruler ranks meant you were in the top 1%. In Tekken 8 ruler is like 30%. And all the rulers in Tekken 7 are god of destruction or at least Tekken god in Tekken 8. Rank inflation is real. And they started it with Tekken 7 as well. In Tekken 7 for the first years, red ranks mean you were fkn GOOD. Most players would get stuck at brawler. Above average players were stuck at warrior and MAYBE get to destroyer. Pro players had trouble getting out of blue ranks. Only the very best were Tekken god prime

  • @shaghilathar3588

    @shaghilathar3588

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kato093I agree but youve skewed it way too much, the data doesnt lie, most players are not in blue ranks or even ruler in t8. Statiscally in t8 blue is the top 10 percent wheras it was higher ( like 13 in t7) but thats just due to more ranks in t7. You lose more points than you gain in blue t8 as opposed to t7. Also if rulers are GoDs in t8 where are the blues in t7 and higher in t8? Theres less than 2000 GoDs worldwide, they dont even make up half a percent of the playerbase so where is this coming from?

  • @BeretBay

    @BeretBay

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kato093 I must've misled you with my reply, but I was not saying that rank inflation is not real, only that Breezy was misinterpreting what the OP in the video was saying; however I did make the claim that they might have added some spice to the post by going as low as green ranks. I would've said yellow at least.

  • @kato093

    @kato093

    3 ай бұрын

    @@shaghilathar3588 that counts only people that tried online and didn't even get to brawler. It's a flawed system. In counting active players that got to at least green rank.

  • @shaghilathar3588

    @shaghilathar3588

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kato093 Which system are you referring to? The one I'm talking about has data on even the light blue ranks

  • @henryludvor6275
    @henryludvor62753 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 is abandoning its loyal fanbase for the lowest hanging fruit of gullible, vulnerable, ignorant gamers. You can only be a fool for so long that it will only be a matter of time before those gamers turn and realize Bamco's predatory nature via MTX and copyright striking harmless cosmetic mods. At the end of the day, no one will play the game.

  • @torysteller4475

    @torysteller4475

    3 ай бұрын

    Sure thing, buddy.

  • @JusticeAngel

    @JusticeAngel

    3 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @jinpachichulo7561

    @jinpachichulo7561

    3 ай бұрын

    They've been trying since T6. Yall just now noticing.

  • @JusticeAngel

    @JusticeAngel

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jinpachichulo7561 no

  • @smartcurry
    @smartcurry3 ай бұрын

    Honestly the top tiers just need to get toned down and grabs need to not be homing anymore and the game is fine it’s really a fact that everyone is too reliant on just standing there and blocking now I’m seeing more ppl do more than just stand a block I’m seeing ppl use evasive moves, side step more, grab more, wall jump more parry a hell of a lot more too, power crush more using stage breaks, rage arts etc bcuz the game rewards every action you take on these things than ever before in T7 it was really more bout playing neutral and pokes now in T8 it’s more bout moving correctly and using ur strikes to enforce ur will on the opponent which makes you be willing to take more risks and use more of the games mechanics to gain the upper hand or steal the momentum

  • @Oliver-et2ou
    @Oliver-et2ou3 ай бұрын

    TK luv u cuh but why you goin live on twitch at the same time as EE? don't make me choose cuhhh (plz)

  • @Quake2815

    @Quake2815

    3 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Oliver-et2ou

    @Oliver-et2ou

    3 ай бұрын

    @user-yu4en4wt9w naw

  • @marlinmurrell620
    @marlinmurrell6203 ай бұрын

    12:18 I'll still say give em time. I don't want quick patches back to back to back, like MK1.

  • @vanillafella4893
    @vanillafella48933 ай бұрын

    yea for me its nothing about "im losing because game bad" or anything. every time i lose my opponent bested me. it annoys me how strong it is to press the heat button in neutral. they said in presentations that lows are supposed to beat it but they are slower than the heat moves and heat moves have absurd range. on that same note there are power crushes that are supposed to be "beat by grab" but they have huge range and pushback so thats not really the answer there when its "intended" idk im not just bitching i got to the highest red rank or lowest purple rank and went back to melee bc ik how to beat most of the options that come my way in that game😂no win button there except ledge invincibility

  • @vanillafella4893

    @vanillafella4893

    3 ай бұрын

    and in t7 jab checking and then being able to block RA was a good idea idky they made RA beat jab😢

  • @marlinmurrell620

    @marlinmurrell620

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@vanillafella4893 Power crush does lose to grab. You just gotta counter hit them.

  • @vanillafella4893

    @vanillafella4893

    3 ай бұрын

    @@marlinmurrell620what about for example the King one (easy to mention bc everyone uses it) if youre not close to king even if you read the powercrush and input grab hes far away and you whiff your grab then get kicked

  • @marlinmurrell620

    @marlinmurrell620

    3 ай бұрын

    @vanillafella4893 Well at that point, I wouldn't whiff the grab if King is throwing out that kick power crush. (I'm assuming that's the one you mean.) Lows also beat power crush so you can do that. Tho, I don't remember how safe that power crush is. I wanna say you could punish it, but I don't come across a lot Kings on ranked.

  • @alexsanimeart5706
    @alexsanimeart57063 ай бұрын

    I started playing Tekken 7 several months before T8 came out so I could get me feet wet and understand some of the fundamentals of the game. I didn't even make it that high in ranked at all because I was still learning the game. I can definitely feel the aggressive lean of T8, but I've run into people who make an effort to play good defense too. I still ran into players in T7 where defense was non existent ans just played offense. People are going to lean to the strengths of T8 and play more offense. It is what it is. I've seen offensive minded players in T7 and defensive minded players in T8. I personally don't think you're forced into offense focused gameplay

  • @sayedomairsiam6344
    @sayedomairsiam63443 ай бұрын

    Yes. This version of Tekken fir beginners is easy af and it dumbed down almost everything. On top of that the balancing horrible and the system has flaws like its only offense. Without defence the game feels like a party game

  • @torysteller4475

    @torysteller4475

    3 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 is objectively easiler, but I don't know why that would be a bad thing. It let's more players do more with their characters. But it's still very hard to be good at the game, and it's very much skill based. The better player will always win.

  • @sayedomairsiam6344

    @sayedomairsiam6344

    3 ай бұрын

    @torysteller4475 It's not about being easier. It's more about being offensive with very little defence options unlike Tekken. Tekken was a game that had many defence options cuz of its high, mid, low hits and 3d movement. In T8 your playing almost 70% of your time guessing the opponents 50/50. They are pushing offense but defence is gone. T7 was a perfect balance of offense and defense that's why it stayed so long without having much of a content.

  • @torysteller4475

    @torysteller4475

    3 ай бұрын

    @sayedomairsiam6344 Defense was way overturned in tekken 7, which is why players spent most of the game backdashing away because it was too disadvantageous to attack first. In T8 they fixed that by lowering the risk to attack. Low parries no longer give extended combos, they reduced the effectiveness of counter hit launchers, buffed throws so that they aren't completely useless, and added chip to reward attacking for both players, either taking health or getting it back. The only thing offensively oppressive is heat, and it was designed to be. If they just lessened the tracking on heat smashes, giving them risk to use, it would be a perfectly balanced game. I mean in theory you can stuff them with jab just like rage drives, but the risk reward is too highly in favor of the attacker.

  • @sayedomairsiam6344

    @sayedomairsiam6344

    3 ай бұрын

    @torysteller4475 I agree that the defense in T7 was a bit overturned that offense but the gap between defense and offense wasn't as.huge as it is in T8. Like I said, you are forced multiple times in a set to a 50/50 guessing situation. Harada has been saying it multiple times that they are more focused on offense. That's one of the reasons that new comers are having fun cuz pressing buttons is dun and defense is difficult but on top of that the offense is overturned so now the game only relies on 50/50 and chip damage. Overall the game is too offensive and unbalanced right now

  • @abeetmameet

    @abeetmameet

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​@@torysteller4475 Why people cry about backdashing in T7 is always confusing to me because the vast majority of players can't even kbd so idk what the issue is

  • @ItsDonBro
    @ItsDonBro3 ай бұрын

    Nah hes right. Blue rank is the new Green rank. None of these mfs want to run it back because they know the deathmatch players will eat them alive. You got some FT2 gods in ranked scared to actually play the game. .

  • @logand450
    @logand4503 ай бұрын

    You're allowed to like Tekken 8 and you shouldn't let any oldheads like myself stop you from having fun. That said, I feel like those of us who have been around longer have a unique position in this debate. Some of y'all will truly never know just how fun Tekken used to be. When movement was prioritized over 50/50's, you had a game that was not only more intuitive, but more rewarding. It's a shame there's no active scene for T5DR. It's by far the best Tekken has ever felt, and probably will ever feel.

  • @UNKNOWN-ci7fu

    @UNKNOWN-ci7fu

    3 ай бұрын

    Fans should petition namco to port some old titles like Capcom does. Namco is too mainstream to be so lackluster with their old titles and they don’t even have many

  • @bluemoonsipper
    @bluemoonsipper3 ай бұрын

    great video

  • @MYB2424
    @MYB24243 ай бұрын

    Its like capcom when they success and got big they turned into anti cosumer like fighting mods and shity microtransactions

  • @gooniergoon7321
    @gooniergoon73213 ай бұрын

    14:48 Same

  • @cha_21
    @cha_213 ай бұрын

    Most vet get burn out by pluggers. The only thing dev can do are making “Pluggers” get a “Low priority match” 5-10 games against their own clowns AND NEED TO WIN to play a normal ranked match. (Like Dota 2). Boyyy the gonna be pissed😂

  • @AFO666
    @AFO6663 ай бұрын

    not necessarily. it is just another game in a long ass series of games. changes get made and a series will make decisions and evolve through them. if people like tekken 7 more, it is still purchasable and playable on all platforms afaik.

  • @Tain_edReaper

    @Tain_edReaper

    3 ай бұрын

    That's not really the point. Compare to Tekken 7, Tekken 8 was a big deviation. And change for the sake of change is not the issue. Unhinged/ too much change is the issue. From Tekken 6 to Tekken 7 we went two steps up to something different. From Tekken 7 to Tekken 8 we went an entire staircase. The game now is just dumbed down, simple. Elo system boost players to blue, less punishing for playing badly (heat burst, rage art, comeback tools), legit casino style of 50/50s, Playstyles that used to have a lot of variety in the previous entries are now just mostly gone; less important. Aggression is the only thing that really matters. For perspective, people in Tekken 7 who mash brainlessly usually gets stuck at orange-Red ranks. Those who mash intelligently get stuck at purple ranks. Now In Tekken 8, with some characters, people can mash brainlessly straight to blue ranks.

  • @abeetmameet

    @abeetmameet

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Tain_edReaper Pretty much. It felt like the balance between playstyles was better, now you get punished for trying to play patient, and rewarded for constantly going on the offense, no spacing, movement or defense required. Feels weird to work so hard to be a more patient player in T7, just for T8 to incentivize the opposite.

  • @jahipalmer8782
    @jahipalmer87823 ай бұрын

    So, I'm just making this comment because I want to tell someone. I've been playing Tekken since Tekken 1; it's my favorite game series. Last night, playing Ranked Tekken 8 online was the first time in thirty years that I wasn't sure if I was having fun playing Tekken. I don't know why yet. I still need to investigate the reason. I don't think it's cause I'm 'bad' because that has never kept me from enjoying the games before. I'm just not sure...

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    thats a good outlook you have and its dope to hear you played since the very first one.

  • @jahipalmer8782

    @jahipalmer8782

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TKbreezy I'll be honest, I may just be mad that I fought four Jins in a row...

  • @Pelimatic
    @Pelimatic3 ай бұрын

    24:22 I see you haven't been to the Tekken subreddit lmao, literally all they ever do is complain about how Tekken 8 is the worst game ever made

  • @nx47

    @nx47

    3 ай бұрын

    Ngl the past month has been very entertaining over there 😂 lurkers paradise fr

  • @Pelimatic

    @Pelimatic

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nx47 Honestly it's been really bad for me. All the negativity associated with Tekken got me feeling really down whenever I booted up the game, and I stopped playing for a while, because it was just bad for my mental health. It's just the last few days that I've been getting back into it again.

  • @hideharu-xiii8852
    @hideharu-xiii88523 ай бұрын

    It sounds like it’s following the same mindset as Strive. Honestly I feel like Strive is doing more harm than good in regards to the development of fighting games nowadays.

  • @JPROP-vb7sv
    @JPROP-vb7sv3 ай бұрын

    Short answer is yes

  • @maxwortel8986
    @maxwortel89863 ай бұрын

    What you mean echo chamber? most skilled players and tek ken fans have been saying that: the aggression, lack of defensive options and pandering to casuals has been an Issue way before the top players had the balls to open their moves but low and behold..the unwashed smash bros fan with the colored hair Is projecting

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    The echo chamber is exactly that. The “skilled players” and even the scrubs will feel justified now that the top players are outwardly saying it. It’s just a blame shift for SOME people not all of them. I’m specifically talking about the people who won’t study or practice and just blame the game before anything else. And I’m not even disagreeing with either of the negative takes I’m just saying I know how people are Also 🥱 “unwashed smash fan” got me very original.

  • @jejetube7667
    @jejetube76673 ай бұрын

    Tekken talk Pog

  • @Nekro9000
    @Nekro90003 ай бұрын

    if you want to make a game with chip dmg and a ton of aggression you need strings that the defending player can interrupt so they can become active as well, its so boring, especially in soul calibur to have someone mashing a safe block string into your guard, building up guard break or chip dmg or w/e and you just have to take it. the game would be a better form of aggression if it was about turn stealing

  • @pfuze_5775

    @pfuze_5775

    3 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 literally is about turn stealing with heat and armored moves. Tekken also has strings you can interrupt you just need to lab and know the gaps.

  • @j.i.nthenobody54

    @j.i.nthenobody54

    3 ай бұрын

    You can interrupt so many strings. You just need to learn them.

  • @Nekro9000

    @Nekro9000

    3 ай бұрын

    @@pfuze_5775 then why arent pro players just constantly turn stealing from each other? there are a ton of strings where if u try to challenge and they finish the string you lose out. but they should just remove those so the defending player can transition to being the attacking player or add some out

  • @pfuze_5775

    @pfuze_5775

    3 ай бұрын

    @Nekro9000 the game as a whole is about turn stealing and pros do it all the time lol you been living under a rock if you don't think doing a power crush or popping heat after doing something negative is turn stealing

  • @Str8EdgeJesse
    @Str8EdgeJesse3 ай бұрын

    Not the LTG cosign lol

  • @Sticks_of_Truth
    @Sticks_of_Truth3 ай бұрын

    People need to get used to what the game is. As long as they figure out the balancing in the long run everything is fine. If you are a defensively heavy player then you have some huge adjusting to do. Defensive strategies are there and I think they'll come to light when they balance out some of the heat moves and overpowered characters.

  • @Hypercube1729
    @Hypercube17293 ай бұрын

    I'm definetly enjoying the game. In fact, Tekken 8 is the most fun I've had with any fighting game ever! Yeah, some characters are truly badly balanced (Feng, Dragunov, King, Azucena etc.) but they can be nerfed. And some characters truly needs buff. But also with the new matching system, the Prowess, I'm meetng far more people at my own skill-level than before. Not a Tekken God on his 5th character who obviously knows more Tekken. I love Tekken 8 so far.

  • @al8704
    @al87043 ай бұрын

    All facts you spittin all vid

  • @gorguts6667
    @gorguts66673 ай бұрын

    LOL the ltg comment

  • @rabbyd542
    @rabbyd5423 ай бұрын

    What if Heat burst wasn't available until like ten seconds into a round? That would be perfect in my opinion.

  • @badgger13
    @badgger133 ай бұрын

    Keep it cool

  • @NYCKZ360
    @NYCKZ3603 ай бұрын

    You kinda sound like Mandark from Dexter’s Laboratory

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    First time I’ve ever heard this lmao

  • @itzdcx7991
    @itzdcx79913 ай бұрын

    they're doing to for M O N E Y😂

  • @WARLORD626
    @WARLORD6263 ай бұрын

    Capcom look'n.

  • @Sticks_of_Truth
    @Sticks_of_Truth3 ай бұрын

    "Three months is enough." I don't think that's a logical statement at all when this is the first Tekken with no arcade.

  • @mitchiegotmovesy7635

    @mitchiegotmovesy7635

    3 ай бұрын

    People keep forgetting this lol. I’m conflicted. On one hand, you can definitely form an opinion on what we have now but is that a final verdict on the game? Of course not

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    That’s a good point

  • @user-ui3jo1um8b
    @user-ui3jo1um8b3 ай бұрын

    "One of, if not my favorite" is all you need to hear to know this guy is just gonna say the safe opinion - can't even admit its his favorite, im out

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    What a stupid nitpick lmao I just like a lot of fighting games, Tekken is the newest and it’s fun but I also liked Granblue a bunch when it came out and SF6 just don’t know what is my favorite of the 3 fully. But as of right now it’s def Tekken

  • @user-ui3jo1um8b

    @user-ui3jo1um8b

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TKbreezy shoulda said that in the video, its a nit pick cause so many content creators say this and they always just say the safe opinion

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    @@user-ui3jo1um8b bro. No lmao I’m still saying I like the game a lot??? I have aligned positively with the game and that point got across. I think you just being overly negative over a moot point. I like the game end of story

  • @user-ui3jo1um8b

    @user-ui3jo1um8b

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TKbreezy alright, your the content creator not me, just letting you know the vibe u gave off, alot of people like a creator who just rides the waves

  • @VictorColli
    @VictorColli3 ай бұрын

    Why not dynamic balancing? The higher in rank you go the more conservative the game becomes, with new balance introduced with each rank color. Less heat meter, Heat burst damage* scales to heat meter, rage art once per set, rage art beaten by lows/grabs, less chip, less +frames, heat moves use more meter, *non-homing grabs Casuals get the more aggressively gameplay, the skilled players get the more skill-based gameplay, maybe custom rule sets??* Wildcard: reset rank every season like COD prestige and you get to keep a record of your ranks as part of your profile *ok I'll yield on this idea lol

  • @championredd

    @championredd

    3 ай бұрын

    Ass idea

  • @TooSweaty7

    @TooSweaty7

    3 ай бұрын

    We're not trying to change this into a party fighter

  • @smartcurry

    @smartcurry

    3 ай бұрын

    Nobody likes it in cod why would anyone like that in a fighting game where there’s 3D movement n 32 characters with over 100 moves ur just adding more factors that’s gonna overwhelm the player

  • @smartcurry

    @smartcurry

    3 ай бұрын

    Plus there are moves that burn your heat meter faster n heat dash burns through all of it

  • @VictorColli

    @VictorColli

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@TooSweaty7 idk, the game already feels very party fighter like with how wacky its mechanics are. Maybe custom rulesets could be a thing. I just say dynamic balancing so casuals can have the super overtuned game we got now and high ranks can have the more conservative skill based gameplay they want. There's no overlap, casuals and skilled players get their own lanes

  • @strettoasino9006
    @strettoasino90063 ай бұрын

    So a bunch of high level players can't beat a bunch of NOOBS...?

  • @algar6616
    @algar66163 ай бұрын

    18:02 I am a newbie to the scene, but.. to me it seems like the vid creator is straight up lying when he says that everyone loves newly introduced tekken 7 mechanics

  • @algar6616

    @algar6616

    3 ай бұрын

    Does the hardcore tekken 7 community celebrate this “rage” system or is it mainly players like this who joined recently(af)

  • @algar6616

    @algar6616

    3 ай бұрын

    Idk as a tkbreeezy fan I appreciated his smash knowledge, but when he tries to parley the taste of his uncompetitive balls into my mouth I misss a pro player talking

  • @caliber5965

    @caliber5965

    3 ай бұрын

    @@algar6616 As someone who strongly prefers Tekken7 to Tekken8 and has over 1,000 hours in it. I have heard nothing but complaints about the Rage art system in T7. I have heard not one single person say they like it or that it's a good system. I personally know people that consider even using Rage arts to be disrespectful.

  • @Ravemaster620

    @Ravemaster620

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@algar6616I think I can say with 99% certainty that everyone either hated or were neutral on Rage Arts in T7. No one liked them after the initial novelty wore off, which lasted a couple games

  • @TKbreezy

    @TKbreezy

    3 ай бұрын

    Time stamp was wrong but “I’m sure there was complaints about rage arts and rage drives too” was literally the first thing said about 7s mechanics. If you’re gonna criticize at least be correct. Saying they came to love them might have been a stretch for sure but it’s just a bit of a ramble to get to the next topic is all.

  • @Seducier
    @Seducier3 ай бұрын

    mash mash go go mash armor mash unblockable mash mash go go go run up go press buttons nonstop aggressive annoying anxiety inducing annoying go go mash press press mash rage art unblockable throw mash mash go go mash

  • @rocketman093
    @rocketman0933 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 is the way, loving it

  • @BCannonThaMc
    @BCannonThaMc3 ай бұрын

    Get rid of RA armor Get rid of heat burst Get rid of Azucena Get rid of simple ass characters lmao BUFF KAZUYA 🤣

  • @rubberwoody

    @rubberwoody

    3 ай бұрын

    Counterpoint. Azucena is cool and fun and cute

  • @Xerochimaru
    @Xerochimaru3 ай бұрын

    Not yo Tekken no more! OUR TIME IS NOOOOOOW!!!

  • @GrzyMckneezy
    @GrzyMckneezy3 ай бұрын

    I uninstalled. Why am I gonna bash my face into the wall playing against the same stupid characters over and over again who now also have this stupid "heat" system. Take a hike games stupid.

  • @eproductions5115
    @eproductions51153 ай бұрын

    no.

  • @DirtyShishKabob
    @DirtyShishKabob3 ай бұрын

    Is tekken gaining new players?😂

  • @-feonix48-47

    @-feonix48-47

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m new to tekken and I’ve played quite a bit and plan on sticking with it

  • @BeretBay

    @BeretBay

    3 ай бұрын

    That's what the goal was with Tekken8

  • @obadboy

    @obadboy

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes! 3 of my friends finally started playing Tekken with me. They love it and are now taking it seriously.

  • @JusticeAngel
    @JusticeAngel3 ай бұрын

    It's garbage

  • @Fac0999
    @Fac09993 ай бұрын

    No they are not it's still Tekken you literally just have to get better than you were in 7 ppl are just lazy af

  • @yeahno555
    @yeahno5553 ай бұрын

    Tekken 8 is baller, having aggression-based gameplay is a good thing in my book. Oldhead players hate change, that's on them.

  • @abeetmameet

    @abeetmameet

    3 ай бұрын

    Tekken has been played a variety of ways in the past, INCLUDING aggressive styles. 80% of T7 players mash all day anyway. But now the game actively punishes you for being patient, which forces an aggressive playstyle on everyone, even characters that don't benefit much from aggression mechanics.

  • @obadboy
    @obadboy3 ай бұрын

    Ive made this point on few other channels, begging Tekken 8 to be Tekken 4 or 5 or 7 isn't logical. If you miss the old game play, go play those games. They still exists. This is the new direction they are going with, and it just the vanilla version. Im coming from the Tekken 2 arcade scene, none of this is Tekken to me but i enjoy it all none the less.

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