I love these types for videos! I think it was ridiculous the fact the Grand Central staff member told your wife to move. Hidden disabilities are just as important as a wheelchair user or any other type of visible disability. I loved seeing your wife in this video and I hope we see her again soon!

There’s more to this. Price, comfort, mental health, preference due to these factors

@FreshTillDeath56

Жыл бұрын

HIGH QUALITY AIR CONDITIONING

@kwlkid85

Жыл бұрын

The car will win all 3 of those.

@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460

Жыл бұрын

@@kwlkid85 REALLY depends. Turns out that in most journeys, it’s a combination of multiple that have different results.

@kwlkid85

Жыл бұрын

@@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460 On realistic journeys (not station to station but place to place) the car will almost always win in the UK. If you already own a car it makes little financial sense to take the train.

@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460

Жыл бұрын

@@kwlkid85 Even London to Edinburgh or Glasgow?

Like you, I have very rarely seen the M25 that quiet, but also last time I drove down the A3 it was at little more than walking pace for miles in the Guildford area, so you were very lucky to do the journey that quickly.

@aaronlegg1702

Жыл бұрын

At the moment cobham junction is a ball ache because of the works on it, Guildford is always busy, rest of the A3 is alright

Very fascinating and insightful vid this, Would love to see more Dylan v Ellie races, plenty of potential in them

Making me think of TopGear with the races they used to do, love the videos and enjoy Bognor, my sister lives there and loves it

@driver288

Жыл бұрын

Top Gear was world class

The minute I heard Southern Trains were involved in a race there was always going to be 1 winner 😂I'm delayed so often with Southern that it always comes as a surprise when my train is ontime for the whole journey. I've had 3 journeys in the last 3 years that have taken 2 hours longer than planned due to delays and cancellations.

@code-on-Trip-app

Ай бұрын

It's really annoying to encounter this kind of thing, but there is no other choice. But I'm glad they have a coupon recently.

Thank you very much for this excellent video ! The time difference was surprising, and in most ways the car wins hands down. Your experience highlights the frequent delays of rail travel these days, and poor Ellie had a most unpleasant journey on Southern ! I thoroughly enjoy this type of video by the way !

Ellie is adorable! Love to see you give her speaking roles😊 How about coach vs train for you two?

@code-on-Trip-app

Ай бұрын

The bus is indeed an option, sometimes the time is similar to the train and the price is cheaper. But the train has a discount recently, so you can compare the price and time to make a decision.

I love seeing you got an assistant 😀 Unfortunately the car will win in most cases. In real life your car wait for you outside your house, while the train station is far away. Also you can leave exactly when you want with your car, while the train leaves every hour or half hour. Meaning you might end up way to early with the train. I have been balancing this for most of my life. For the moment I have situated myself in the middle of a city in walking distance to the railway station. Also car parking is so expensive I sold my car. And my work is just three stations down the line. So I am all in for trains for the moment 👍

I really enjoyed that Dylan, thank you Ellie for your contribution to a fantastic blog. I am glad that both of you express your thoughts during the journey and make it interesting. Your Chanel has come a long way over the last few years. I like your efforts to keep the Chanel fresh and not stale with the same old thing. It must be hard to think about fresh ideas for the Chanel . Well done to both of you, keep it up it’s working.

One thing i would change for this format, would be to both start the race from interchange with the car leaving the same time (yes i know this was addressed haha) but that hour wait really killed the drama, or at least have less of a wait in the station 😊

@TheSpotify95

Жыл бұрын

Maybe instead of going for what looked to be an Advance ticket (for the cheapest fare), getting an off peak (or anytime) ticket which allowed for travel on any train would be a good idea. That way, if there's a train ready to depart, just get on it without having to wait etc. Not that the 1 hour interchange at the train station would have mattered, when the trains were delayed in this instance.

@suek4918

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant want to see more of you together

@claircond1491

Жыл бұрын

D

@ChetNotJet

Жыл бұрын

I’m team train but not everyone lives right next to or in the station so it does make sense not to start at the interchange

@johnp139

Жыл бұрын

Start at your house.

You're both brave to be taking this race. I don't envy Dylan driving all that way in the small Nissan while Ellie's plans would have stalled at the start had GC had to cancel the London train (owing to the 180's unreliability). But well done !

@TheSpotify95

10 ай бұрын

The 180s have never been a reliable unit, even EMR are no longer using them. I believe there were also plans (at one stage) for Grand Central to use ex-Avanti 221s to improve their reliability. Smaller cars can still drive at motorway/highway speeds, they're just not as comfortable doing so (even Dylan noted that the Micra was noisy at 70mph).

@Danse_Macabre_125

9 ай бұрын

​@@TheSpotify95kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2eWy6hpqLG_dso.htmlsi=d9SsLISgmKs4CSGE Grand Central is actually running one or two ex-AWC 221s

I don’t think I’ve ever heard lovely Mrs say a word in your videos until this one BUT I may well have missed some. But it’s a nice addition!

@stewartbrodie1720

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaGbk61plbyte6w.html :-)

worth mentioning for purposes of races the Brighton mainline out of London is fairly notorious for delays- you might have been better off going down the Portsmouth direct line from Waterloo, then changing onto the coastway at Havant

@TheSpotify95

Жыл бұрын

But at least by submitting a Delay Repay claim, you'll get some off your ticket, meaning that the train beats the car (in terms of price) even more so.

@kwlkid85

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSpotify95 Relying on delay repay to beat the price is pretty funny.

@robblake8999

Жыл бұрын

@@kwlkid85 certainly makes crosscountry fares less absurd, since somehow i'm always seemingly delayed by them lol

@carlisroy6666

Жыл бұрын

@@robblake8999 I'd take an hour late in exchange for half the fare back most times!

@TheSpotify95

10 ай бұрын

@@kwlkid85 The good thing is that most train companies will refund part of the ticket cost if the delay is long enough. If you book in advance, train journey prices can actually be reasonable, but get an Anytime Day Return on the day and you may well be stung.

Loved it. Me. & Mrs. Travel Report, both speaking. Driving in the U.K. is confusing for many Americans. I wish we had your travel options

*casually picks up a car key from underneath a tree*

This video had an excellent premise, so I commend you for making it! It did well at characterising a non-savvy public transport user, but it would be more entertaining at least to do a proper race with planned shortest journey times. Some suggestions for future (hopefully!) episodes might be trying to minimise the journey time - theoretically you could do the trip here in 5h 15m ish (trains only). This route seemed long and the initial hour wait seemed a bit excessive. The second point is perhaps more controversial - costs. I think that car travel costs should factor an element of maintenance, insurance, and tax. Owning a car is not free, and I think you should amortise the cost per mile. Going by car means paying for parking and all sorts of hidden costs, so this could be a major drawback. Good luck with future videos!

@andrewreynolds4949

10 ай бұрын

I would say if you have the car anyway there’s not much point to adding the maintenance costs unless there’s some sort of notable regular issue

@TheSpotify95

10 ай бұрын

I suppose it depends on if you're actually making regular car journeys. If you're regularly using the car for other purposes, then adding an extra trip on for a car vs train video won't make much difference, but if you're using a car purely for a certain purpose (e.g. driving to work instead of taking the train/public transport) then road tax, insurance and MOTs have to be taken into consideration. Plus you have to take into account maintenance costs of making sure the car will actually pass its MOT.

That was a fun vid. Great job by both of you. Thanks. :)

Great video, Dylan and Ellie! It's always good to see these sorts of comparisons between car and public transport.

Invisible disabilities can be very difficult! You never know what a person is dealing with, always be kind!

Love this format. You should definitely do more

THANKS both of you for a lovely video! ❤

Hope to see more of these races. I reckon a race to Paris would be very interesting and close especially with the start being a bit further out of Bradford like Haworth for example.

Sample journey comparisons like this are always interesting, but to truly get useful data would probably require taking many samples. Fun video

I would always opt for the train as it maybe slower but you have all your amenities in one place and compared to a car you can go for a walk

Good stuff, mate. Loved the vid. I live in London but have family in Glasgow so make the trip regularly. When I'm on my own I take the train but when I have kids I drive as the cost is prohibitive. Now I know the emissions difference is also in favour of a full car.

1. Comfortable car! 2. Do another race! It's great! 3. I suggest you to do Edinburgh to Glasgow! 4. Unlucky Eli, better luck next time! I hope you win! 5. Another suggestion, Edinburgh to Kings Cross via the A1! I'm so excited if you do another race! Loved it!

These kind of videos are fantastic! Definitely more. Maybe even could do some Collabs with other travel Vloggers (ideas lol) and do some races

@isaactimmins8959

Жыл бұрын

Something With someone like Jen on the move, a girls vs boys race, not sure which youtuber you could pair up with Dylan though,

Excellent video Dylan and Ellie well done. Hope we see more stuff like this soon.

I'm not gonna say that you should have set off at the same time as the train, but you could have chosen a different starting point rather than one that left Ellie about an hour behind from the moment her first train left the station

@johnp139

Жыл бұрын

But that is the point. You can leave in your car ANYTIME YOU WANT, not true for trains.

@carlisroy6666

Жыл бұрын

I'm also never at the station nearly an hour in advance. Perhaps the next bus would have been cutting it fine, but the car certainly seemed to have an excessive head start in this example.

Great video you two, more please!

I too, would like to see more videos like this, it was fascinating. I envy you two and your experiences. Don't stop! 👍♥

Really enjoyed that one Dylan, best of luck with your move to Bognor, was good to see Ellie more involved as well!

Hey Dylan, I really enjoyed this video and it was lovely to see more of Ellie in this one. More of these please :)

Nice change of pace. I had no idea it ever got that hot in England. It was a fair race as the fact that trains can be delayed and cars can get stuck in traffic are always possible.

You should do Bognor to Wick, and do the beautiful Inverness to Wick Train journey. Ellie should complain about the conductor assuming she wasn't disabled. I also have a hidden disability, and I have complained twice about staff at Euston to Avanti West Coast.

@DylansTravelReports

Жыл бұрын

Bognor Wick would be some drive too 😂

@simonc7947

Жыл бұрын

​@@DylansTravelReportsthe Inverness to Wick section would definitely be faster by car. I would like to do it by train sometime though. You've done Inverness to Golspie (nice place) twice I think. It would be nice to see a report on the line north of Golspie.

Absolutely brilliant video both...definitely would like to see more videos like this

Excellent video! Can we please have more of this sort of stuff? Well done Elle!

For emissions you should also take into account the fact that a Class 180 is a diesel train and not an electric train… if you took LNER from Forster Square for example, you’d be doing electric most of the time. There are differentiated figures I think for diesel and electric trains but of course running for miles on diesel under wires doesn’t favor you in this case!

would love to see more races like this on the channel ☺

That was an interesting challenge and typical of real-world conditions for people living in the UK too. Perhaps you could do something similar one day but from the point of view of a visitor to this country arriving at Heathrow? Make a trip comparing a Hire Car and a Train from a Hotel in London to St. Ives in Cornwall. Non-boring scenic bits for the train from Exeter to Plymouth and on the short train trip from the mainline to St Ives. For more interest the car would go M3, A303, A30, little bit of M5 and then A30 again. The M4,M5,A30 route would be like 40 miles longer and quite boring.

Loved it, so wholesome

Fantastic video and very interesting!

Great trip, and yeah it's great to see Elie comeback as co-trip reporter in this video. For next suggestions of trip like this is from London to Paris, between direct bus and train (not the Eurostar). That speed camera sign is definitely killjoy, maybe I haven't driving yet IRL, but when i play truck simulator and entering UK territory, that speed camera sign is coming as a sudden.

Really loved you chatting while driving actually!

Had she not waited an hour and instead caught the next train into Leeds and changed there she would’ve landed in London earlier and faster. Obviously the issues with Southern would have delayed her anyway but the outcome would’ve been miles closer. Otherwise, she’d have easily won by a long shot

I live just off the A3. Always a nice road to drive, and the landscape from Guildford to Liss is lovely.

Great vlog, good idea, very enjoyable

Loved this. Like the old top gear challenges. I'd love to do something like this myself. Live near Bath so something like Bath or Bristol to Edinburgh train Vs Coach be a good 👍

Great vlog. Congratulations on you and Ellie getting married. I really enjoy your vlogs, very informative and always interesting.😉👍

@DylansTravelReports

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

I still found it cool that he was nerding out about his car and the motorway

I'm a bit late commenting on this one, Dylan; because of other issues in the last month, have only just caught up with an incredible backlog of KZread viewing. Well! This is a great revelation of the differences between car travel and use of public transport to achieve a given journey. All the comparisons aside, it was great to see both you and Eli giving a very chirpy conversation about aspects of the journey on what was, apparently, a rather warm summer's day (just a normal late spring, mild summer, early autumn day for me downunder in Melbourne). You lucked out with forgetting to re-gas the air conditioning in the car but kept your spirits high throughout the journey, so congratulations on that! Looks like a trip to the shearing shed (err... I mean hairdresser) could be in order to relieve some of the summer heat. Eli really shone with her description of the rail journey. I think I might have had an issue with the Grand Central Conductor though on having to move from the seat of choice to one that gave a crap view through the window. Throughout her journey, she showed remarkable grace, considering the delays, etc. Whilst you appear to have enjoyed the car trip and have done several such journeys from Bradford to Bognor Regis, I don't think I would like such a long motorway journey in unfamiliar surroundings (unfamiliar to me, that is). I was fortunate not to have any major problems using rail when I visited Britain five years ago, but I understand there have been a lot of strikes, unexpected diversions and reliability issues since my visit and I'm sure extreme heat conditions haven't helped the average traveller's mood. While a fairly lengthy video to watch, it was very well compiled and edited and a credit to both of you. Thank you for the experience and hope you can continue to involve Eli in your productions. Well done!🙂🙂🙂

Loved this .👍🇬🇧

To make it fair, you probably should have left as the train left. Essentially, you had a pre planned one hour head start. I accept it made for a closer finish, but it also beats the point of the video too. Nonetheless, I really enjoyed the video. Great to see Ellie, too. Cheers guys!

Epic video!

When I decide on how to travel, I also consider how much mobility I need at my destination. When I visit a large city with expensive parking and decent public transport, that favours the train. When I visit my family in their small town, I'd get there reasonably well but have very limited mobility once I'm there, so I drive there. For rural travel destinations, I always liked the combo of flying or taking a fast train to the area and hiring a car to get around - but current rental prices have thrown that option out of the window.

In my case it is. I live in Malaysia. From Penang to Kuala Lumpur via the highway driving at 100-110km/h, it'll take around 4++ hours. Via train = 3++ hours.

This was a fun video!

Awesome video both from Alan in Lowestoft buddy 👍

not bad! That rain trip was pretty brutal, I bet. i guess sometimes you have to plan ahead for something like this.

@TheSpotify95

10 ай бұрын

Sometimes, with the issues that can arise with train trips, you think you're better off driving instead. For example, I've recently (as in since the start of the pandemic) made 2 reasonably long train journeys. One was Wellingborough to St Pancras and the other was Wellingborough to Hull (requiring a change at Leicester and Sheffield). Both train journeys went well, but had there been any cancellations or delays, I would have been left wishing I'd have taken the car instead!

Hubby and I thoroughly enjoyed this challenge. More please😊

another great video

The North-South divide is wherever the Waitrose store finder stops 😂

The M25 around there especially heathrow and chertsy is always like a car park when I'm there! I hope you had aircon in the car and stopped a few times. Also thanks to you GF for taking part and helping out.

It really helped the automobile driver that the normally awful traffic around Heathrow Airport was avoided.

Cars for the win! 😎💪🏻 Greatly amusing video by the was.

Quite nice different video, enjoying it so far! :D P.S. The M62 is horrible atm, i travel on it like every week and the speed limits are stupid slow

I love the integration of your wife in your videos! Love this video, really original :D

@DylansTravelReports

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

It was a surprise that on the particular journey from Yorkshire down to the extreme south of England, driving beat taking the train on the time-o-meter although part of that had had to do with a delayed train heading south from London.

Great video 👍

Wonderful Compilation

@DylansTravelReports

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Suprised Ellie didn't take Thameslink from St Pancras to East Croydon or Gatwick to avoid using the tube to Victoria. Having said that on the particular day of your journey with the Southern disruption it probably wouldn't have made any difference. Love your videos Dylan. Keep up the good work!

Watch out Dylan. Ellie looks like she is set to take over you travel videos. Ellie you have a great voice. Thanks to you both for this interesting video.

Nice video 6:03 reminds me why I hate traveling by bus. The Q to pay, then the general people in the way as you try to get on and them faffing about to sit down and then the noise of the traveling public.

Enjoyed this ‘race’. I think it was a more honest race than some of the others I’ve seen on KZread. They are always always biased towards the train, starting and ending somewhere close to the railway stations. This goes for train v plane videos in particular. They also time them so that a train is leaving a few minutes after the ‘race’ begins which means they have to run for it which makes for a better video but isn’t really fair on the opposition who may have to wait for a later flight and hope to catch up. I travel from Glasgow to London a fair bit. Going from, say, George Square in Glasgow to Piccadilly Circus would be quicker by train but I nearly always fly as I live nearer the airport than central station and am visiting somewhere nearer Stansted Airport than Euston Station.

Enjoyed this one, and definitely would have also been interesting if the emissions were less if Eli went from Bradford Forster Square via LNER to London Kings Cross (electric train) instead of the diesel of Grand Central - because according to the ORR stats, the electric emissions are around one quarter of diesel. The 47 gram figure on ORR's main page is all traction which will include diesel. It's a shame that Southern did a Southern and there were delays, and the M25 was amazingly quiet, which is a minor miracle. Definitely an interesting watch and well worth noting the pluses and minuses of each mode of travel. The Bognor Regis - Littlehampton shuttle service definitely is worth a video on its own when you get chance to do it. There's also two fab crazy golf courses at Littlehampton too (and the two of you must do the Bognor one by the pier) and it's a good little day out.

This is brilliant Dylan. Thank you. Glad that Ellie is involved now. You've come a long way from subtitles and desperately trying to stay off camera

@DylansTravelReports

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😁

@simonc7947

Жыл бұрын

I did like the those videos though.

Sorry to the Mrs for getting the worse end of the deal with the race. Enjoyed this video and Ellie was really good on camera. Would like to see more of both of you doing videos together. Dylan has got more confident in front of camera also

I enjoy both driving and getting the train but both have their downfalls- You were incredibly lucky to do that journey without being stuck in M25 traffic, and being able to whizz down the A3 without getting stuck behind the many people who hog the outside lane!

I hope you enjoyed it overall! When it comes to working out the numbers, there are many variations. When it comes to expenses, some will know that there are established HMRC guidelines for working out running costs for business tax allowances that cover a range of different expenses, not just fuel consumption. W.r.t. the CO2 emissions numbers, the old official rate of that model is probably out of date, given that the fuel used now has changed c.f. how it was back then - assuming you were using E10. You could do the sums based on your actual fuel used for that trip and look up the CO2 produced by buying that amount, taking into account that a proportion of it is not oil (as the other part is renewable). Have fun with that.

Very enjoyable video 😎👍🏽🎉🎉👀

its not about time, its about comfort, low stress, safety and the scenery

When at Bognor, you could do the Coastliner 700 - Dylan’s bus reports

@code-on-Trip-app

Ай бұрын

Whenever I have a train coupon I ignore the bus option because the train is more comfortable.

Look, I love driving and I love my sexy beast of a car. But I wish there were more train options available in the US. MARC here in the east coast is very comfortable.

love the car v train video. nice change

watford gap has the best MacDonalds. Of course there are vast differences that can occur dependant on many variables. I think for example if you'd done bradford to somewhere in london city itself the car would have been at a disadvantage. If i'm going to London on my own I would always choose to got by train for convenience an d cost, I drive a transit btw so fuel costs are greater and we have different speed limits on certain A roads, unless they are classed as A/M eg stretches of the A1, I also had to do a speed awareness course lol. Anyway great video, really entertaining.

Can't believe you said the Chichester bypass is in Bognor. How dare you!😂 Great video mate

Good video, Dylan. Suggestion: You and your wife would enjoy the 5 day 4 night luxury train from Toronto to Vancouver. Either summer or winter travel is nice. Also, travel train journey throughout the Scottish highlands or Scandinavia. I sm planning my summer trip later this summer to London.

@McGubbins42

Жыл бұрын

4 days / 4 nights is too long to be spending on a train. Sure, you can get out and stretch your legs at the main station stops but it's still too long for a single journey.

@alivinghuman1

Жыл бұрын

theres a 7 day sleeper journey in russia

@McGubbins42

Жыл бұрын

@@alivinghuman1 Russia is kina off-limits right now

@alivinghuman1

Жыл бұрын

kind of

@tonymcdonnly6492

Жыл бұрын

@@McGubbins42 It's a nice way for some to travel.

A couple of days ago I travelled by train from Bath Somerset to Great Malvern Worcestershire, a distance of 75 miles. It involved 2 changes and took nearly 4 hours. Next time it's going to be the car.

very interesting video. car beats the train mostly depending on traffic of cause.

You forgot the Dart crossing toll and any parking charges at Bognor. It was a great video well done ✅

Having looked at various train lines in Yorkshire, I would have looked at a different route. A northern train to Leeds, then a LNER to King’s Cross. The LNER are more often and quicker even allowing for the additional time to Leeds station. Especially as Grand Central is only 4 trains a day. Then at London I would have used Thameslink to East Croydon or Clapham Junction. Then switched there. It would have been less congested at the start of the train from Victoria. Though nothing would have prevented the problems on the train that day.

@stewartbrodie1720

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't go that way on balance, although it depends whether you arrive into King's Cross or St Pancras International. It's quite a walk from KGX platforms 0-8 (where she was, as all the long distance traints tend to use) to the Thameslink platforms A&B. KGX concourse to VIC concourse I reckon is 20 minutes by Victoria Line if you know the quick way (although I'd allow 25-30 if it was important to make the connection) You'd get a seat on the train at Victoria, plus there's a lot more facilities at Victoria. If it's a race, I'd also get the Gatwick Express and change at Gatwick Airport. You have to be careful about which tickets are valid for GX though.

I would love another race!

Hopefully youve not scared her off the trains, at least she'd get her delay repay. Prehaps you should try a Southend trip pier to pier with one of you on C2C and the other on Greater Anglia.

so I have questions. Like how do you get a train ticket that cheap? Cheapest I could find for the same route was £84.90 > OK Thats without railcard fares or any other discounts. Also at a guess, your wife's disability may be Fibromyalgia? I totally understand that, my wife has the same with added chronic fatigue. But I still love her as she is! Also also, you were incredibly lucky on the day with traffic, and you drove past both my work place (by about 1/8th of a mile away) and my house (about a 1/2 of a mile away!) Lastly, you REALLY need a dashcam, it would do the work of the go pro without needing charging and save all the video for you! I liked this video! Nice race!

Hi Dylan, I dip in and out of your content so you may have already answered this but what made you move to Bognor? (I grew up there and moved away in 2019 but have my work down there still so go back a few times a year.)

So nice to meet your lovely wife! Great teamwork

The real north/south divide is Hadrian's Wall!🤣

Great video please do more races car vs trains

I have to say a very interesting video to make given the distance and locations. In my early years of driving and owing a car I wouldn’t have thought anything of doing that. However, now and 12 years without owning a car and occasionally hiring a car (if two of us are making a journey, say, to a remote part of Norfolk from Yorkshire), I find driving tedious, draining and often stressful, particularly alone, and watching your driving footage reinforce that! So, as much as it’s been interesting, no more please!