I was a kinesiology major in college and when I watched your video of this it brought back the trauma from the Bruce protocol lol. That vo2 max test is rough
@musikmuzik87733 ай бұрын
Most probably its because you tend to go all out when supervised vs when doing it by yourself using just watch to measure.
@nealklachky610
Ай бұрын
This isn’t how it works.. the watches use a formula based upon a sub maximal effort. It can even use a walk for the estimate
@CS_AK_WIESEL4 ай бұрын
Typically you do diagnostics in your daily trainiers not in your race shoes;)
@mxw6573 ай бұрын
My tested in a lab VO2 max is 59.5 and my Garmin watch usually says my VO2 max is 46-49.
@zechariahsmith17644 ай бұрын
12 points is a huge percentage off. How much do those tests cost?
@RuairiOTuathail4 ай бұрын
My vo2max is 50 on my watch. I'm moderately fit. I ran a marathon recently in 4h10 (really hilly though). I run a sub 22 min 5K. So nothing too crazy. I think 57 seemed a bit low to me then since you're much more fit.
@jamesbooth23612 ай бұрын
The most annoying thing is that after getting a lab test done you can update your HR zones but you can’t update your VO2 max 😔 you’re stuck with the Garmin estimate
@markhill85904 ай бұрын
Mines 61 im happy enough with that
@MorganZimmerman-qw9rk4 ай бұрын
so would it be more likely that the number given by a watch is lower than what a lab test would say?
@jacobtaylor2850
4 ай бұрын
Yes but other factors could play into this, the fact that a he knows a team of people have taken time and effort to rig him up in the lab could perhaps make him prone to pushing himself further on the test, for example, there is no doubt in my mind that the Lab-based test Is more accurate though.
@jamesbooth2361
2 ай бұрын
My watch vo2 is 52 and my lab vo2 is 48
@jamesbooth2361
2 ай бұрын
But it’s based on your bodyweight too. The easiest way to increase vo2 max is to reduce your body weight
@Finnspin_unicycles
2 ай бұрын
No, the watch gives you a result based on an average across all runners, you could be on either side of that average.
@zechariahsmith17644 ай бұрын
How much did the lab test cost?
@illlagitamit4 ай бұрын
How much do these test usually cost?
@tyhigby4345
4 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@kshizzle63
3 ай бұрын
$100-150 usually
@jamesbooth2361
2 ай бұрын
I’m in the U.K. and have had them done for £130
@Gelaarsderat3 ай бұрын
It's inaccurate because if ur training for endurance the data on ur garmin will be 80% easy/slow runs
@catmanfpv92134 ай бұрын
Running 10k and my watch showed 68 "professional level", meanwhile I feel like I'm a potato.
@Finnspin_unicycles
3 ай бұрын
Are your heartrate zones set and your watch reading heartrate properly? Because if it thinks you are at lower % of your max heartrate than you actually are, it will overestimate VO2 max.
@SuperColeman8818 күн бұрын
Yeah, but did you push yourself on your watch the same way that you pushed yourself in that training lab probably not
@TungNguyen-mx6zd4 ай бұрын
My Garmin watch shows mine is 53. So the lab test should be higher?
@Yachinni
4 ай бұрын
It is not accurate, and probably too low Competitive sportsmen don’t take numbers from garmin seriously. Only lab test can verify your real vo2 max If your garmin says that you have 53 you are in range of like 50-65
@TungNguyen-mx6zd
Ай бұрын
@@Yachinni thanks so much. Now my Garmin increases to 55 already 😎
@ichbin_infinity3 ай бұрын
my garmin says i got a 57 too maybe i got a 69 but im 99.99% sure its not if anything it’s probably 57 or lower
@Ben-yw8be4 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t believe mine at all on Garmin because it has been the same number yet I am getting faster and running longer. Yeahh…. Not accurate at all. I’m probably in the low 50s range. it takes into account your weight, sleep, and other factors that affects VO2 max.
@Finnspin_unicycles3 ай бұрын
I don't really understand why they give you a VO2 max estimate. It's a fairly useless number, other than having something to brag about..
@mohare134
2 ай бұрын
All things being equal, you can use your VO2 estimate as a guide for workouts and race paces. The Jack Daniels Running Guide (no, not the liquor-for those that don't know, he was a very successful running coach) uses the VO2 number to establish paces for structured workouts. As your fitness/VO2 increases, the workouts adjust accordingly.
@Finnspin_unicycles
2 ай бұрын
@@mohare134 The Vdot number Jack Daniels uses is not quite VO2max. Either way, I think using the garmin vo2 max estimate in place of the standard: timetrial/race -> look at table for paces -> dial in the paces slightly as you progress through your training block only introduces one more uncertainty.
@ejquezad4 ай бұрын
Yeah right, 69 is a professional athlete winning races. I call this B.S.
@jeremy.miller
4 ай бұрын
I’m assuming yours is lower than 69?
@cormac7880
4 ай бұрын
@jeremy.miller lol he prob just sits on his couch and is jealous people can actually run
@Finnspin_unicycles
3 ай бұрын
VO2 max in itself is a fairly useless measurement when it comes to predicting performance. High VO2 does not mean winning races at all.
@V.I1-pe2ki3 ай бұрын
My watch gives me 53 but I believe it’s much higher like in the 60’s
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I was a kinesiology major in college and when I watched your video of this it brought back the trauma from the Bruce protocol lol. That vo2 max test is rough
Most probably its because you tend to go all out when supervised vs when doing it by yourself using just watch to measure.
@nealklachky610
Ай бұрын
This isn’t how it works.. the watches use a formula based upon a sub maximal effort. It can even use a walk for the estimate
Typically you do diagnostics in your daily trainiers not in your race shoes;)
My tested in a lab VO2 max is 59.5 and my Garmin watch usually says my VO2 max is 46-49.
12 points is a huge percentage off. How much do those tests cost?
My vo2max is 50 on my watch. I'm moderately fit. I ran a marathon recently in 4h10 (really hilly though). I run a sub 22 min 5K. So nothing too crazy. I think 57 seemed a bit low to me then since you're much more fit.
The most annoying thing is that after getting a lab test done you can update your HR zones but you can’t update your VO2 max 😔 you’re stuck with the Garmin estimate
Mines 61 im happy enough with that
so would it be more likely that the number given by a watch is lower than what a lab test would say?
@jacobtaylor2850
4 ай бұрын
Yes but other factors could play into this, the fact that a he knows a team of people have taken time and effort to rig him up in the lab could perhaps make him prone to pushing himself further on the test, for example, there is no doubt in my mind that the Lab-based test Is more accurate though.
@jamesbooth2361
2 ай бұрын
My watch vo2 is 52 and my lab vo2 is 48
@jamesbooth2361
2 ай бұрын
But it’s based on your bodyweight too. The easiest way to increase vo2 max is to reduce your body weight
@Finnspin_unicycles
2 ай бұрын
No, the watch gives you a result based on an average across all runners, you could be on either side of that average.
How much did the lab test cost?
How much do these test usually cost?
@tyhigby4345
4 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@kshizzle63
3 ай бұрын
$100-150 usually
@jamesbooth2361
2 ай бұрын
I’m in the U.K. and have had them done for £130
It's inaccurate because if ur training for endurance the data on ur garmin will be 80% easy/slow runs
Running 10k and my watch showed 68 "professional level", meanwhile I feel like I'm a potato.
@Finnspin_unicycles
3 ай бұрын
Are your heartrate zones set and your watch reading heartrate properly? Because if it thinks you are at lower % of your max heartrate than you actually are, it will overestimate VO2 max.
Yeah, but did you push yourself on your watch the same way that you pushed yourself in that training lab probably not
My Garmin watch shows mine is 53. So the lab test should be higher?
@Yachinni
4 ай бұрын
It is not accurate, and probably too low Competitive sportsmen don’t take numbers from garmin seriously. Only lab test can verify your real vo2 max If your garmin says that you have 53 you are in range of like 50-65
@TungNguyen-mx6zd
Ай бұрын
@@Yachinni thanks so much. Now my Garmin increases to 55 already 😎
my garmin says i got a 57 too maybe i got a 69 but im 99.99% sure its not if anything it’s probably 57 or lower
Yeah I don’t believe mine at all on Garmin because it has been the same number yet I am getting faster and running longer. Yeahh…. Not accurate at all. I’m probably in the low 50s range. it takes into account your weight, sleep, and other factors that affects VO2 max.
I don't really understand why they give you a VO2 max estimate. It's a fairly useless number, other than having something to brag about..
@mohare134
2 ай бұрын
All things being equal, you can use your VO2 estimate as a guide for workouts and race paces. The Jack Daniels Running Guide (no, not the liquor-for those that don't know, he was a very successful running coach) uses the VO2 number to establish paces for structured workouts. As your fitness/VO2 increases, the workouts adjust accordingly.
@Finnspin_unicycles
2 ай бұрын
@@mohare134 The Vdot number Jack Daniels uses is not quite VO2max. Either way, I think using the garmin vo2 max estimate in place of the standard: timetrial/race -> look at table for paces -> dial in the paces slightly as you progress through your training block only introduces one more uncertainty.
Yeah right, 69 is a professional athlete winning races. I call this B.S.
@jeremy.miller
4 ай бұрын
I’m assuming yours is lower than 69?
@cormac7880
4 ай бұрын
@jeremy.miller lol he prob just sits on his couch and is jealous people can actually run
@Finnspin_unicycles
3 ай бұрын
VO2 max in itself is a fairly useless measurement when it comes to predicting performance. High VO2 does not mean winning races at all.
My watch gives me 53 but I believe it’s much higher like in the 60’s