Is Russia proving today how China can win tomorrow? | Defence in Depth
China is learning all sorts of useful stuff from the war in Ukraine about how far to push against established international norms; how to inoculate one’s country from a global backlash against bad behaviour and how to drive a wedge between one’s adversaries.
All this has come at virtually no cost to Beijing as the Kremlin has copped most of the flak. So, as he casts a hungry eye at Taiwan, does Xi Jinping see Vladimir Putin as a very useful tool indeed?
In this episode of Defence in Depth, Dominic Nicholls, The Telegraph’s associate editor, explains how, by invading Ukraine, Putin has shown his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping where the edges of Western tolerance for aggression lie.
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@lockedandloaded6522
13 күн бұрын
YES, I DO...HOW ABOUT A REPORT ON HOW BORIS JOHNSON BROKE THE POSSIBLE PEACE TREATY THAT THE FUHRER ZELENSKY WAS ABOUT TO NEGOTIATE
@Nick-re8bq
13 күн бұрын
Turkey vs Iran as America disengages in Iraq and Syria
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
13 күн бұрын
Yes. The events leading up to the seizer of eastern Ukraine in 2014. In particular, Russia's use of Wagner mercenaries, 'little green men', regular troops, nationalist groups sent in from Russia, special forces, 'local' militias, Igor Girkin, MH17, and continued kremlin denials of involvement. That is a part of the war that incredibly gets very little focus.
@dukenukem993
13 күн бұрын
What kind of idiot is the presenter of this video? Useless? Nobody believes your lies!
@timpaull9340
12 күн бұрын
listening to a this guy talk about how claiming other people land through might is wrong is bloody comical. Do British people even read they’re own fking history?
The UK regime doesn’t even recognize Taiwhaaan as an independent country 😂
@hamish1309
13 күн бұрын
Even the US doesn't, still give weapons tho.
@cob571
13 күн бұрын
hey look, a useful idiot! hello :D
@Bradgilliswhammyman
13 күн бұрын
Taiwan is a free and independent nation...and should declare them selves as such.
@hamish1309
12 күн бұрын
@@Bradgilliswhammyman not according to international law. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to live under communism but those are facts.
@johannesschubert403
12 күн бұрын
Bots incoming. Hello Moscow! 🖕🏻
Taiwan is learning more than anyone
@chriflu
10 күн бұрын
I sure hope so!
@HTBP1888
9 күн бұрын
Lies
UK have a lot to worry about things internally that has nothing to do with china like cost of living and soaring electricity prices.
Accidentally :))) lmao, The Telegraph becoming more and more a comedy channel, the should rename themselves to "The Royal Comedy" 🤣
Propaganda has never been this obvious 😂
@retrodripsupport7510
7 күн бұрын
the irony of this guy on the video talking about useful idiots is hilarious. Might as well put the BAE watermark on the video
The Telegraph never ceases to smash my lowest expectations. "Useful idiot" was a *propaganda* term used during the cold war to smear activists, journalists, writers, etc., who deviated from the political status quo.
@johannesschubert403
12 күн бұрын
Source?
@davelowe1977
12 күн бұрын
Correct. I was all excited to listen to a sound analysis only to hear the useful idiot point of view all over again.
@prospectpeace1305
10 күн бұрын
As of this comment, 69 idiots gave a thumbs-up to the above disinformation, revisionist bullshit because they either were too lazy to look up the history themselves, want to believe what they want to believe or both. Given the context, useful idiots indeed. More information is at people's fingertips than ever before and yet self-assured Idiocracy is what we've made of ourselves. #nothingnewunderthesun
@moon_krendelsestate
9 күн бұрын
@@johannesschubert403 noone is debating, he just repeats video thesis
@bilalakhtar8916
9 күн бұрын
@@johannesschubert403thats what the video itself suffests
How to inoculate against bad behaviour, Beijing has long learned from the US.
One huge difference is that the US has said that it will defend Taiwan. It won't be sanctions. Whatever the truth of that, China has to consider the possibility of direct conflict with the US.
@samsungtap4183
12 күн бұрын
The US is just busting its arse to put a naval blockade on China....that's their big play ?
@m.morshedulhaque
9 күн бұрын
😂
@user-il2er3uo8h
8 күн бұрын
US just passed new sanctions on China . Europe will soon follow
Was the bombing of that embassy an accident?
@teosandev6116
10 күн бұрын
Yes, they were aiming for the hospital next door. 😉
@Booyaka9000
9 күн бұрын
Yeah, it failed mid-flight in the same way the 26 or so cruise missiles the russian navy fired into Iran from the Caspian Sea did during the russian intervention into the ISIS campaign in 2015. The major difference being that the US has only around a 7% failure with their cruise missiles, and the russians had a 65% fail rate at the time. It's about a 55% failure rate for russia now.
@danhobart4009
8 күн бұрын
Yeah it totally had nothing to do with serbia selling the wreckage of the nighthawk to china.
@andresfelipeod6819
8 күн бұрын
yes, and Invade Libia was an Accident, and invasion of Panama in 1989 was an Accidente Too. USA and his Terrorist organization NATO (meaning nort.ATl. Terrorist-Org) always do bad things by Accident.
Accidentally? lol
Its a very very complicated strategy called 'keep your industrial base'
@cristinaximera9663
11 күн бұрын
It is complicated indeed, since "my" industrial base isn't mine at all, but that of a bunch of international shareholders.
Yes they are .. just like the USA prooved how they can envade afganistan irak and all the middle east
@anthonyhulse1248
13 күн бұрын
Thanks for announcing yourself!
@edwardsnowden8821
13 күн бұрын
@@anthonyhulse1248how is Langley doing
@amyhall3617
12 күн бұрын
Lol same old garbage what about isim. Dont no how that at all justifys the bad actions of another.
@solinvictus7582
12 күн бұрын
But what about CCP invading ...? (pick a country that used to exist - or a neighbour who doesn't like them much anymore)
@Jason-io9zg
11 күн бұрын
@@amyhall3617 welp. We also have on going US Gaza drama.
😂😂😂 UK being US lapdog/probably US vassal taking order's directly from Washington. Calling othera Useful idiots??
@evilleader1991
8 күн бұрын
TRUE
😂😂😂😂 lies, propaganda from the telegraph
Dominic is so intelligent and on-the-ball it hurts!
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
10 күн бұрын
It's just a bloody good show eh wanka?
@AniMageNeBy
10 күн бұрын
Intelligent, on-the-balls, and very, very biased.
French and Radio Free Asia are two different stations yet serves and condones the same propaganda...
Civil war broke out in UK already 😂😂😂😂
@watermelon5896
10 күн бұрын
There's civil unrest, we'd know if it was war
Wow this was really biased. Even when he talks about how much gold has China bought, and not mentioning it’s still about 1/4 of US and behind the likes of Germany, France and even Italy. This guy is useful indeed
this video is capitalist propaganda
Yes.
Ukraine and Taiwan are fundamentally different situations. EU+UK reacted dramatically over war in Ukraine because of the potential of a "Hot War" on their doorsteps. Taiwan ... is not close geographically to any Western countries. One thing Xi learned from Ukraine is that Western Sanctions don't really work economically from domestic availability point of view (international banking and transfers yes, but resources no). Western allies have resisted any troop involvement in Ukraine, and it is extremely unlikely they would get involved in Taiwan. Taiwan is also about 1/20 size of Ukraine (actually only about 25% larger than Crimea). Xi knows he is playing with almost a full hand when it comes to Taiwan.
Uk cant produce a single tank, yet barks louder than everyone lmao.
@user-il2er3uo8h
8 күн бұрын
tanks are worthless with Drone technology . Have u not been watching the Ukraine/Russian war ?
@ramimbintybindu9840
4 күн бұрын
@@user-il2er3uo8hTanks are useful dumbs...
Accidentally? 😅😅… REMEMBER BELGRADE!!! 👊🏻
@dopeboy162dtp6
13 күн бұрын
Yea its hillarious. Western propaganda is getting out out of hand lmao
NATO can't win a war. International community. 😂😂😂 70% of world doesn't even know Ukraine exist 😂😂😂😂
the levels of irony here are surreal
Not so subtle propaganda
@NeostormXLMAX
8 күн бұрын
subtle? this is straight up gobbels tier lmao, at least radio free asia tries to be subtle
@NeostormXLMAX
8 күн бұрын
im starting to think this is reverse psychology
Europe is going down.
@stephenglover1818
12 күн бұрын
It's gone down and only themselves to blame
@solinvictus7582
12 күн бұрын
China economy STRONK
More crying 😂😂
Price worthy series! Greetings from Germany.
Love your work Sir. Always outstanding 👍
ROC recognizes Taiwan is China and PRC recognizes Taiwan as China. The only people that don't appears to be western colonialists of the new and old worlds.
@ttuliorancao
12 күн бұрын
Not even them. All Western governments agrees in official statements and treaties that Taiwan is part of China. That's what makes it even more hilarious...
i love how Putin is mocked using words in a very sly way 🙂
😂 😂😂 Chest Pains Chest Pains 😭😂😂😂
US was also “forced” to invade various nations…🤣🤣
What happened to real journalism in the west.
@abdirahmanahmadalifarah926
10 күн бұрын
Lies, and propaganda, The UK it's self is a Washington Vassal, but I guess they don't know it
@NeostormXLMAX
8 күн бұрын
its always been this bad, but they've been droping the ball lately with the obvious tone
Poor Francis Dearnley - the hazing continues at 1:01. Come on Team Dearnley!😊
@mlonderg
13 күн бұрын
I appreciate Dom and Francis equally for their viewpoints. I don't quite understand why Dom has beef?
@chriflu
10 күн бұрын
@@mlonderg I think it's rather tongue-in-cheek.
@mlonderg
10 күн бұрын
@@chriflu Ok, glad someone else can clarify.
@chriflu
10 күн бұрын
@@mlonderg Yeah, it seems that way to me. Then again, I mean I'm just guessing - much like Francis Dearnley when he chooses what to wear at the office, according to Dom 😉
@mlonderg
9 күн бұрын
@@chriflu Haha Francophile Francis is my fav
Ten minutes of total conjecture
"The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on" its about pathetic England
Pure propaganda from the Daily Telegraph. 👆 trash journalism
@johannesschubert403
12 күн бұрын
Trash comment imo
@zjpdarkblaze
11 күн бұрын
@@johannesschubert403 shhhh stop embarrassing yourself
8:31 did she just admit that Ukraine is fighting for the collective west 😬
@PhillyKid07
7 күн бұрын
The true slips out sometimes 😂😂
Wars and gold…such an awful combination.
Kinda liberating that even westners now begin to understand that they can not lecture others on anything, yet alone morality! They are now trying really hard to seem kinda logical, but deep down they know that 80% of the world think otherwise and that they are not the center of the universe anymore. Hilarious
Rather too many unstated assumptions here. First, the USA recognises that Taiwan is part of China yet all the talk is of Chinese aggression and essentially yellow peril rhetoric. As for Russia’s useful idiots, the problem here is that these people (Mearsheiner etc) predicted the Russian aggression back in 2008- which Georgia soon discovered. NATO allowed itself to become an evangelical force pushing liberal democracy rather than sticking to defending its members. Putin has of course overreacted but even an overreaction requires a provocation yet there is no acknowledgement of this in the video.
@danhobart4009
8 күн бұрын
As always left wingers are the problem whether its the bolshevik revolution or germany in the 30s and 40s.
"Claiming land that does not belong to them". Where exactly did the USA and Israel come from if they were not carved out of other peoples land. Is the Telegraph not such a useful idiot spouting such hubris and hypocrisy? “The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” Athenians telling the Melians.
@user-il2er3uo8h
8 күн бұрын
are u truly still living in Colonial Era ? Where do u live ? US obviously needs to donate to such tribes .
hypocrisy
Is U.S. proving form past until today how Russia can win Ukraine today? Ha , ha.
I love Doms humour!
Very interesting. I would love to hear your thoughts on elite capture.
@solinvictus7582
12 күн бұрын
💊
The Chinese company CATL are producing a battery not in the future but right now that is going to change the world. They have already run tests on commercial airliners...yes battery powered airliners.
😂
eyy Domingo 🤙🤙
Hahahaha this propaganda might work in 1960. Now it just a comedy
What are the best responses to the statements "the war was only started because of nato expansion" and "Ukraine isn't a real country anyways"?
@God-ub8fn
12 күн бұрын
And one more questionn from me why was Zeleensky honouring an SS Killer in the Canadian parliament?
@AniMageNeBy
10 күн бұрын
That there is a slight inkling the guy might have some wee bit bias seeping into his "arguments". Looking at it a bit more neutral, the first sentence has the word "only" too much in it. While NATO expansion certainly was a red line for Russia - one we've been ignoring for years, it's certainly not the only reason. But, hey, more nuance might have tempered the narrative he was trying to spin.... The latter is actually something the West came up with themselves. No Russian official actually said that. At most, they said they had a common history and many there were culturally or ethnically Russians - which is true, certainly in the Eastern and southern parts (not so much in the Western part of Ukraine). Again, that sort of more nuanced and objective reflection of reality might come into his way of his narrative, and thus he prefers to keep it black-and-white, as anyone trying to influence people with propaganda will do. Russia does it too, for sure, but it's always funny to see how we, the West, condemn their propaganda, but do not bat an eye when we're doing it. We're almost literally blind to our own biases.
Yes
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At least he's not pretending to be a journalist.
@anthonyhulse1248
13 күн бұрын
Thanks for announcing yourself.
@prajwal1341
13 күн бұрын
@@anthonyhulse1248not a problem.
@AniMageNeBy
10 күн бұрын
Though he didn't announce himself as the propagandist he is neither... well, not directly, anyway.
@peterwu1872
8 күн бұрын
@@anthonyhulse1248 Thanks for announcing yourself
Slava Ukraine ❤️
Ukraine also has to lowered the age of the draft.
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Favourite show on internet👍🏋️♀️🇳🇿
Most politically motivated media analysis I have seen Expected better from u guys Tough surely can see ur frustration from the results in ukraine😂
China will eventually reunify with Taiwan usimg the Hong Kong model of administration, gradually moving towards just being a part of China. No military actions are necessary. China already has more than half their trade. China could blockade the Island as a last resort.
@samsungtap4183
12 күн бұрын
Over 2 million Taiwanese work on the mainland 20% of their workforce because there is little meaningful work in Taiwan itself...this is a universal problem of over educating your population ask Libya
@keithchao9101
10 күн бұрын
China is doomed!
Good coverage and update - Thanks.
The telegraph is funded by kgb ccp fbi
"Useful idiot" is actually a term that Stalin himself coined to describe Western leftists who ignored his atrocities - the Holodomor, the Show Trials, the Great Terror - in the 1930's.
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
10 күн бұрын
Go ship more of ur industry to China dummy its ok
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China is elephant not tiger , if not attack Taiwan now while Russia fight NATO , and palestenian are attacked in rafah by usa support , so , it will never the elephant will move forward
Yawn
Thanks. !!
Yes, by showing that all those expensive NATO weapons are dog isht....
@anthonyhulse1248
13 күн бұрын
Thanks for announcing yourself.
Tucker Carlson.
BZ Dom👍 That’s navy speak for well done mate 👌
Thanks, Dom! Incisive as always.
Let’s not forget that China and Russia were holding joint military operations when they announced their “no-limit partnership” - just days before the invasion. I think the plan was for putin to quickly take Ukraine and then xi would quickly take Taiwan. The world got very lucky that this didn’t happen because Xi and Putin would have become exponentially more powerful had Ukraine not been such a smart and tough country 🇺🇦💪🙏🫶🇺🇸
@user-rz5zk6nl3q
10 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
To call someone who has won 20% of another country's land idiot is delusional.
Excellent analysis, thanks!
I notice the orcs got here early lol
@max_skim-pontoon-cough
13 күн бұрын
Hello comrade. Putin bucks are easy to earn, I’m about to buy my third submarine
This video is a joke...
Big difference between boycotting Russian energy, which the west needs, and boycotting the manufactured goods of China, an industrial competitor. If China attacks Taiwan they can expect their exports to come to a screeching halt causing an economic collapse.
Nice one Dom.
Fair and Balanced. :D
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first comment
This is just one reason why the good guys mustn't let Russia win in Ukraine. And it really is a case of "let".
@iprofox3758
11 күн бұрын
There arr no good guys in this conflict....the US are not the good guys.
@1Know1tHurts
9 күн бұрын
Collective west are the bad guys.
Beware of Putin rent boys crying in the comments.
Very good report!
could have been good video the script is awful
Ji would want to keep his Taiwan ambitions local? Then why is he beating the drum of grievance politics like Moskow? The big bad world has contained China's greatness, he needs to end the century of "China's humiliation", and more such nonsense.
What!?
🤣poor Francise
UKRAINES WINNING!! 😂 Z!
I often wonder how much these foolish people in the comments need to see before they start to question their beliefs on great Putin is.
😂😂😂 to much propaganda
Omg watch all these pro chinese, pro ruski bots 😂😂😂
I see the Russian bots are quite active in the comments. Slava Ukraini!
@Fyrd-Fareld
12 күн бұрын
And Wumaos. Слава Україні!
What bizarre, inane commentary "China casts a hungry eye at Taiwan" 😁
@john_in_phoenix
13 күн бұрын
Useful idiots everywhere.
انَا اختكمَ مَن اليمَن وّالَلَه ماتكلمتَ الَا من جوّع وًّمن الفقر انَا وًّامَيَ وًّخَوًّاتَيَ تَشَرَدَنَا مَنَ بَيَوًّتَنَا بَسَبَبَ الَحَرَبَ نَحَنَ فَيَ حَالَهَ لَايَعَلَمَ بَهَا الَا الَلَهَ حَسَبَنَا الَلَهَ وًّنَعَمَ الَوكيَلَ فَيَ مَنَ اوًّصَلَنَا الَى هَاذا الَحَالَ 💔💔وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ خَوًّاتيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 6 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين من الحرب انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 15 الف يمني والان علينا 45 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي وخواتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه خواتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967717415667 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير ساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيرا،.،.،:^:؛^:🎉°~°~^~°^π√^π√~π~√~√~π^~^~π~π~√√~~ππ~π√~~^^°^°€€لب🎉🎉❤❤🎉.......
@davidbrancaleone3039
13 күн бұрын
Dear sister from Yemen. Ever heard of editing process? We can praise the Prophet, no probs. But nowadays, nobody is going to bother reading your post. It's just too long.
@NelsonZAPTM
13 күн бұрын
Scam
If Ukraine falls Taiwan will fall in line with
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