Is Necrochasm The NEW Best Kinetic Primary? (Buffs, Changes & Powerful Synergies)

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In today's video we go over the buffs and changes made to Necrochasm with the release of The Final Shape!
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At the top of the list of weapons I wanted to try post Final Shape patch was undoubtedly Necrochasm, the Kinetic Exotic Auto Rifle from the Crota's End raid. With The Final Shape came a substantial change to it's catalyst, previously outlaw, that now makes it a top contender for one of the best Exotic Primaries in the game. The change gave it a new perk aptly named "One For Thrall", and if you think that sounds awfully similar to the regular weapon perk "One For All", well, you'd be right! Functionally, they behave identically, you get a sweet 35% weapon damage bonus for simply hitting 3 separate enemies, something that's incredibly easy to do with Necrochasm. The biggest thing pushing "One For Thrall" past "One For All" is the fact that it's REFRESHABLE, meaning scoring 3 more hits on 3 more enemies completely resets the buff timer, meaning that if you have ads to kill and ammo to spare, you've basically got yourself a permanent 35% damage buff! The benefits don't end there though, dear viewer, since because it's technically a Weapon of Sorrow, Cursed Thrall explosion kills while wearing the Warlock Exotic Gauntlets Necrotic Grip spread a poison burst to nearby enemies, and what's more, there's a sick interaction between this poison and the main perk itself, but I'll leave that one for you to discover in the video! Anyway, please enjoy the breakdown!
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Edited by Jude/heretomars!
0:00 - 0:23 Intro
0:23 - 1:24 Buffs & Changes
1:24 - 1:42 Buffed Damage
1:42 - 2:17 Perk Refreshability
2:17 - 2:42 The Kinetic Advantage
2:42 - 3:42 Dual Element Synergy (Arc/Kinetic)
3:42 - 4:26 Necrotic Grip Synergy
4:26 - 5:28 REALLY Cool Poison Tech
5:28 - 7:02 Build Synergy
7:02 - 8:26 Build Demo
8:26 - 9:19 Outro

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  • @jenarickman9215
    @jenarickman921528 күн бұрын

    So something interesting is that you can get necrotic to roll in the first column of solipsism and it does work with weapons of sorrow, and then you can also get verity in the second column and it gets procced by the cursed thrall explosions if you have storm grenades on. So you can roll around and have more cursed thrall procs while also throwing out storm grenades that do 100% more damage at max stacks.

  • @afri2n

    @afri2n

    28 күн бұрын

    new unrealistic roll to chase

  • @Erwin-ki3oh

    @Erwin-ki3oh

    28 күн бұрын

    I just got this EXACT roll yesterday and was like "what could this even be used for?". Now I know.

  • @beeman4266

    @beeman4266

    28 күн бұрын

    Hmm, can necrotic and synthoceps roll together?

  • @Sl0th150

    @Sl0th150

    28 күн бұрын

    @@beeman4266yea

  • @denji8700

    @denji8700

    28 күн бұрын

    Nice time to farm for my ice wall with unbreakable on my Titan so I can get the most out of my titan abilities

  • @marcant6223
    @marcant622328 күн бұрын

    Gotta love that bungie are taking good care of the most liked exotics but there are some exotics still without a catalyst just being left behind and forgotten. Xenophage catalyst when?

  • @gen8901

    @gen8901

    28 күн бұрын

    Devil’s Ruin Catalyst when?

  • @WHlSKYtx

    @WHlSKYtx

    28 күн бұрын

    It’s a bot gun it’s fine the way it is

  • @colewilliams3621

    @colewilliams3621

    28 күн бұрын

    Xeno gets used plenty

  • @G_F1

    @G_F1

    28 күн бұрын

    Gotta love the people that don't understand how or why Bungie use exotic catalysts as fun engagement tools on a seasonal or content-type basis. Would you like them to just release catalysts for everything all at once? And then people would complain when 80% of them are bad, or not what was expected, or OP, or whatever the flavor of the week is that the community wants to decide to complain about? They release plenty of new catalysts on a pretty regular basis now days. Just enjoy the ones that are fun and good... you'll get one eventually for whatever your precious little favorite gun is. Enjoy what exists instead of dwelling on what doesn't.

  • @ShinobuFN

    @ShinobuFN

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@G_F1xenophage was released in Shadowkeep which is years ago

  • @virtue9846
    @virtue984628 күн бұрын

    As someone who has almost exclusively been using Necrochasm since I got it day 1, it has been my absolute favorite weapon in D2, even before the Final Shape buffs. There are a couple things I would like to mention, on the Prismatic subclass Necrochasm is an absolute light meter battery, especially with Facet of Devotion meaning you can almost entirely invest into a darkness based build. Another notable fragment is the Facet of Solitude because severing targets will count towards Facet of Devotions bonus light energy on kills, Facet will also spawn tangles on severed target defeats and with the Cursed Thrall explosion it will cause the tangle to self detonate. Which may sound bad if your invested in a strand build, but this interaction can be taken advantage of, especially in harder content with beefier enemies because you will now be stacking the Cursed Thrall explosion WITH a tangle explosion as well, this helps greatly with keeping the add clear lethality in harder content. If you are running Necrochasm with Necrotic Grips DO NOT pass up on Facet of Balance this fragment will greatly help with melee regeneration from the Cursed Thrall explosion since they are Arc (light) damage. Getting good chunks of melee energy back just from using the gun helps when you have a 3 stack melee charge on Arcane Needle since you will be using them pretty frequently with priming targets (especially one farther away) and just using them with Necrotic melee capabilities. P.S you can double dip into orb generation with a kinetic and arc siphon on your helmet.

  • @KayronTho

    @KayronTho

    27 күн бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥 I just need to get the catalyst man

  • @goth_papi5167

    @goth_papi5167

    3 күн бұрын

    What would you recommend for a class item combo?

  • @literallyjustaglassofmilk3609
    @literallyjustaglassofmilk360928 күн бұрын

    One thing to note: Desperation is a 25% DPS increase going from 720 rpm to 900 rpm, but because it increases fire rate rather than just being a 25% damage buff, one for thrall combined with a 25% DPS buff becomes a 68.75% total DPS buff instead of just a 25+35=60% buff. Necrochasm cooks now and is in my opinion a top 3 PvE primary.

  • @jacktravis2718
    @jacktravis271825 күн бұрын

    Ran it for my entire Legend Campaign and was pleasantly surprised at how potent it is. I believe the cursed thrall explosion was also buffed so they chain quicker and so the poison ticks a little bit longer too. It’s SO good.

  • @Krypz
    @Krypz28 күн бұрын

    why am i still awake

  • @tym6959

    @tym6959

    28 күн бұрын

    Go to sleep lil bro

  • @bearlybearablebear

    @bearlybearablebear

    28 күн бұрын

    Fashion never sleeps. .. but you should, get some rest.

  • @DesignatedHealer

    @DesignatedHealer

    28 күн бұрын

    Llama is uploading, forget sleep.

  • @Blitzkrieg1012
    @Blitzkrieg101228 күн бұрын

    I used this with necrotic during Onslaught and its my fav sorrow weapon.

  • @kuri.
    @kuri.28 күн бұрын

    bro has a new favorite primary every week

  • @ForeverLaxx
    @ForeverLaxx28 күн бұрын

    The thing I hate about all this SIVA-themed ornaments is that they're just reminders that Bungie introduced something that was actually interesting and could lead to great stories just to throw it in the bin after Rise of Iron. Bring SIVA back.

  • @theSixPathsOfTrains

    @theSixPathsOfTrains

    28 күн бұрын

    Definitely you right. Lol

  • @jaygerrit2316

    @jaygerrit2316

    6 күн бұрын

    Siva will rise again i hope

  • @theSixPathsOfTrains

    @theSixPathsOfTrains

    6 күн бұрын

    @@jaygerrit2316 Actually there is a way for siva to come back in the lore of neomuna, way back when they colonized the planet they used siva to help them. this is about the only way now for it to come back. But a wrath of the machines neomuna version sounds awesome.

  • @LtheGlorious
    @LtheGlorious28 күн бұрын

    might as well get a combination with necrotics on the class iten since the perk on the class item will act the exact same, running it with star eaters and necrotics is a lot of fun

  • @life-destiny1196

    @life-destiny1196

    28 күн бұрын

    I believe Spirit of Necrotic is less damage on its own than Necrotic Grip. Dunno if Weapons of Sorrow care, but I doubt Necrochasm does.

  • @KoPT01
    @KoPT0128 күн бұрын

    I have been running a very similar build, with the solipsism that also has synthoceps. Using a glaive with close to melee as a special weapon.

  • @Flecco
    @Flecco28 күн бұрын

    Have been using it for a few weeks and having a blast.

  • @AcrossTheSea12
    @AcrossTheSea1228 күн бұрын

    I use necrogasm with necrotic + eater class item but didnt know about the poison enabling non-crit cursed thrall explosions. HUGE tech - thank you

  • @JKILftw
    @JKILftw28 күн бұрын

    If you can, I’d recommend farming out a Spirit of Necrotic and spirit of claws (I think) for +1 melee and necrotic poison

  • @batmobike1756
    @batmobike175628 күн бұрын

    Solid informed and quick. Great job!

  • @trevorlee6591

    @trevorlee6591

    28 күн бұрын

    where do you get thi s gun from?

  • @ballaxx3150

    @ballaxx3150

    28 күн бұрын

    @@trevorlee6591crotas end

  • @batmobike1756

    @batmobike1756

    28 күн бұрын

    @@trevorlee6591 new raid boss drop

  • @M4sn11

    @M4sn11

    28 күн бұрын

    @@batmobike1756no? It’s from crotas end it’s a quest in the raid

  • @batmidgey

    @batmidgey

    28 күн бұрын

    Definitely Crota’s end. Every time you kill crota (when farmable, if not once per character per week) you can get a “lottery” where you get the gun plus the catalyst.

  • @Spartan-sz7km
    @Spartan-sz7km28 күн бұрын

    Finally someone covers this! I got the 35 lottery drop from the raid

  • @AuriMeansWind
    @AuriMeansWind27 күн бұрын

    I need to get the catalyst part of the raid done! I got so lucky with the 40x drop of the oversoul, got the gun and catalyst together, and now I need to get this done!

  • @lordkodie923
    @lordkodie92326 күн бұрын

    Currently chasing those essences of the oversoul. I am saving this video for when I fully unlock it.

  • @life-destiny1196
    @life-destiny119628 күн бұрын

    I loaded into TFS campaign the first day on Necrotic Grips/Necrochasm and it really just destroyed almost everything.

  • @aaaagcl
    @aaaagcl28 күн бұрын

    Thanks for carrying me on master challenge Llama, cheers

  • @dvnwllms
    @dvnwllms27 күн бұрын

    I just started doing weekly full crota runs in order to get it, & hopefully I get blessed with all of the oversouls needed in one drop soon. I've been using a similar build with Thorn but the add clear obviously just isn't as good. I can't wait until I have it!

  • @LeoVMBz
    @LeoVMBz28 күн бұрын

    OMG LLAMA!!! I don't know the melee interaction to get the explotion without the headshot... This is my fav weapon on the game, but now... IS THE MY FAV WEAPON IN THE WORLD!

  • @dimitri187227
    @dimitri18722728 күн бұрын

    Would galvanic armour and spark of resistance stack? 30% + 25% damage resist ontop of 100 resilience would be pretty tanky

  • @julianlak1017
    @julianlak101727 күн бұрын

    Friendship with thorn ended, necrochasm new best friend

  • @Vorrinn
    @Vorrinn25 күн бұрын

    I can test this myself later, but do you know off hand if the arc part of the cursed thrall explosions then also work for stacking up Death Throes on Veritys? I've got an Osmio / Verity class item I'd love to be able to use this with.

  • @groovydolph
    @groovydolph28 күн бұрын

    dude ive been using it recently and it's been soooo fun! unfortunately with the meta ive been struggling due to its lack of range (specifically in 6s). but when it works it WORKS!

  • @groovydolph

    @groovydolph

    28 күн бұрын

    also i meant in pvp. in pve it ROCKS. its my goto weapon for the dual destiny misson.

  • @InsomniacSrategies
    @InsomniacSrategies22 күн бұрын

    Such a great breakdown!!! My one question is how you feel about it in something like a GM? I saw in the video that it didn’t do a great job against the Minotaurs and I had the same experience. Would you rather have Thorn for extra chunky targets in a GM Necrotic build? Or can Necrochasm compete if you focus on using it just for the lower health adds to chain explosions and poison and mop up with your special/heavy?

  • @TimothyRisby
    @TimothyRisby28 күн бұрын

    Class item with Necro + Synto would be good on that build 😮

  • @ClassyAssassin0
    @ClassyAssassin024 күн бұрын

    I dont see any perk on necro that mentions explosions causing more explosions, is that new?

  • @jem3602
    @jem360228 күн бұрын

    Khvostov exist, if it ever gets nerfed i'll probably gravitate to it

  • @basednbearded6493

    @basednbearded6493

    28 күн бұрын

    Necro better because never reload and arc dmg synergy

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    They're very close for me, I've put about 10k kills on my Khvostov but I'm gonna be using Necro now for a bit, see how things go.

  • @jem3602

    @jem3602

    28 күн бұрын

    @LlamaD2 i was thinking about using nerco and giving it a chance and comparing the two for how my build is working and you making this video reminded me, so thank you for that

  • @literallyjustaglassofmilk3609

    @literallyjustaglassofmilk3609

    28 күн бұрын

    Khvostov is easier to use, but necrochasm has a drastically higher ceiling with the amount of build crafting you can do and also how the gun works. Out of the gate khvostov is better but if you put in some effort, IMO necrochasm destroys

  • @thetoolie5917

    @thetoolie5917

    28 күн бұрын

    @@literallyjustaglassofmilk3609necrochasm works with arc subclass+precios scars btw

  • @VorrtaX
    @VorrtaX27 күн бұрын

    cant wait for release of the solar rocket sidearm, Imma use that plus either necro or khvostov and Apex predator on heavy.

  • @SSD_Penumbra

    @SSD_Penumbra

    27 күн бұрын

    Indebted is still goated though.

  • @Alex-ug9wx

    @Alex-ug9wx

    27 күн бұрын

    @@SSD_Penumbrait’s gonna be pretty much dead in the water when this drops. HC/incan is just too good.

  • @VorrtaX

    @VorrtaX

    27 күн бұрын

    @@SSD_Penumbra yes sure, but I'd rather surge match to solar

  • @SSD_Penumbra

    @SSD_Penumbra

    27 күн бұрын

    @@Alex-ug9wx I mean, maybe? Voltshot is still hella good since it can stun overloads, and sidearms are also unstoppable this season, so you got a 2 for 1.

  • @Alex-ug9wx

    @Alex-ug9wx

    27 күн бұрын

    @@SSD_Penumbra true, but since kills are so easy on special sidearms and the ammo economy is so good for them, you could take it to GM level content and be healed to full health nearly instantly. It’s also the fact that enhancable perks will be on the new weapon. I really wish bungie would let me enhance dungeon weapons… they’re being mildly powercrept just by the fact they’re all standard perks. Still, I do love IK. But solar weapons just have way more use because arc is kind of meh. Imagine using it with ember of benevolence or ember of empyrean. It’s really gonna be potent in the right cases.

  • @saladgaming4339
    @saladgaming433928 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately i don't have the catalyst yet but i might take a look at it

  • @jaygerrit2316
    @jaygerrit23166 күн бұрын

    Absolutely love the necrochasm wish i was able to experience it in d1

  • @network2733
    @network273328 күн бұрын

    After seeing this I pulled Nechrocasm from collections. I havd previouslycompleted the catalyst, however it will not allow me to apply it. Have you heard of this problem?

  • @Bordi88
    @Bordi8828 күн бұрын

    Absolute favorite exotic in D1 and I love it even more in D2. Too bad i still don't have that caty and most likely never will now that I'm stuck playing solo

  • @jimmcmeen761
    @jimmcmeen76127 күн бұрын

    The tick damage was also increased 1.5 seconds which helps a lot

  • @groovydolph
    @groovydolph28 күн бұрын

    do you know if this works with the prismatic version of necros?

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes it does! Pairs well with Verity (if you're using Storm nade) for beefy nade damage!

  • @thehalfrekan2941
    @thehalfrekan294128 күн бұрын

    Clicked cause the thumbnail looked like an Aztecross video 😂 you got a like from me.

  • @jakubbercik6965
    @jakubbercik696528 күн бұрын

    My genuine reaction when he said "endgame content" and then dead ass said "the Neomuna lost sector":🗿

  • @SSD_Penumbra

    @SSD_Penumbra

    27 күн бұрын

    Legend lost sectors are endgame, yeah.

  • @hyperactivetendencies7054

    @hyperactivetendencies7054

    27 күн бұрын

    To be fair Master content is end game. If you can solo a master lost sector then the build is end game viable. Soloing a master dungeon is probably better, but once you hit that end game it's mostly a skill level thing versus a will my build do well thing.

  • @jakubbercik6965

    @jakubbercik6965

    26 күн бұрын

    If EITHER of you watched the fucking video, that wasn't a Legend OR Master lost sector... That was just the open world one...

  • @SSD_Penumbra

    @SSD_Penumbra

    26 күн бұрын

    @@jakubbercik6965 What's your point? Background gameplay doesn't mean shit. Its viable in endgame content, that includes master and legend lost sectors.

  • @jakubbercik6965

    @jakubbercik6965

    26 күн бұрын

    @@SSD_Penumbra then he should have shown its performance in said activities

  • @_-Tom-_
    @_-Tom-_26 күн бұрын

    Spirit of Necrotic + Spirit of Star Eater with Nechrocasm is 🔥🔥

  • @13576bard
    @13576bard28 күн бұрын

    Damn I gotta go back and do some crota runs

  • @IAmB0bW00t
    @IAmB0bW00t28 күн бұрын

    How did you manage to proc devour using arcane needle with necrotics on? Its bugged for me and i cant get devour to proc on empowered melee kill while i have necrotics on.

  • @samuelarave3319

    @samuelarave3319

    28 күн бұрын

    If you get the kill outright with arcane needle, it should proc. If the poison gets the kill, it won't proc devour. I was getting around the issue by deliberately getting an enemy's health down a bit prior to throwing the needle if I was trying to proc devour to start chaining it.

  • @IAmB0bW00t

    @IAmB0bW00t

    27 күн бұрын

    @@samuelarave3319 kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYeO09uIoa2nYcY.html

  • @cirme9460
    @cirme946028 күн бұрын

    I really need to get my last 8 Oversouls for the caty...

  • @thebapslaps
    @thebapslaps28 күн бұрын

    Wait did they fix necrotics with Touch of Malice? Last time I tried using it together it didn't do the spread of poison.

  • @noble3887

    @noble3887

    28 күн бұрын

    It was never broken. Touch spreads the poison on the charged with blight ball you shoot. Same way nechrochasm spreads it off the cursed thrall explosion.

  • @life-destiny1196

    @life-destiny1196

    28 күн бұрын

    I believe it spreads on the blight. Don't recall hearing about it being broken.

  • @zukie8082
    @zukie808228 күн бұрын

    Does this work with the exotic class item, too? Or just the gloves?

  • @noble3887

    @noble3887

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes.

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes! Pairs quite nicely with Spirit of Verity for more Storm nade damage :)

  • @fetcher2583
    @fetcher258328 күн бұрын

    I started using Necro just a couple of hours before watching this viedeo lol

  • @zip-un5tz
    @zip-un5tz28 күн бұрын

    Been goated

  • @joesaunders84
    @joesaunders8427 күн бұрын

    ever since i got necro/stareater class item to drop i have taken this build off apart from nova instead of song of flame and the jolting grenades fragment

  • @Aj-py8en
    @Aj-py8en27 күн бұрын

    Something I feel like your massively underselling is just how much damage the Cursed Thrall explosions do. In the video you said they were better than Sunshot and Graviton because it's a kinetic weapon, but in actuality the explosions deal 122% more damage than a Sunshot explosion in a larger radius and 50% more than a Graviton explosion when you include One For Thrall. Before Final Shape Graviton had Necrocasm beat for damage (if every seeker hit the same target), and now that it got a 10% nerf and Necrocasm has a 35% buff its not even a competition anymore. It's hands down the best chain explosion exotic right now.

  • @QwannyMon
    @QwannyMon28 күн бұрын

    Just pointing something out rq. You mentioned it does extra dmg for being Kinetic but they actually removed that function recently as well. All elements and non elements deal the same damage

  • @chrisgeo6713

    @chrisgeo6713

    28 күн бұрын

    They only removed the extra damage to boss enemies

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    27 күн бұрын

    Incorrect, the 10% bonus remains for red bars but they DID remove it against bosses.

  • @Weiss1456
    @Weiss145628 күн бұрын

    My main issue with Nechrochasm is its efficiency on master/gm difficulty contents, you have to be at close range to get that precision kill against tanky red bars and it can be very frustrating to not proc a cursed thrall explosion.

  • @thebhoy8561

    @thebhoy8561

    26 күн бұрын

    Did you not watch the video? Note the synergy with necrotic grip melee

  • @Weiss1456

    @Weiss1456

    26 күн бұрын

    @@thebhoy8561 I watched it you see, you're not gonna have a melee for every red bar to have an easy explosion kill, + chances are that your teammates will kill the one you've poisoned. This is too much things to consider to bring this weapon for master/gm contents, there are better exotics primary for this, outbreak, osteo graviton, sunshot etc...

  • @atsukana1704
    @atsukana170428 күн бұрын

    Well that is another nerotic grips weapon for the warlocks. Good thing its my secondary

  • @masterjim666
    @masterjim66628 күн бұрын

    Guess I will give this a go with my Necrotic/Synthoceps class item. Good work!

  • @Hughes12
    @Hughes1227 күн бұрын

    Do you think the catalyst is necessary for Necro? I don't have have it and then you still need to farm the oversouls for it.

  • @StarWarsBatmanShow10

    @StarWarsBatmanShow10

    26 күн бұрын

    One for thrall is hard to pass up

  • @badvibez6602

    @badvibez6602

    25 күн бұрын

    Yes I went thru the pain to get it like 2 months ago it’s worth it

  • @badvibez6602

    @badvibez6602

    25 күн бұрын

    Turns it into a completely different weapon

  • @FeverSFM
    @FeverSFM28 күн бұрын

    YEAAAASSSIRR

  • @johnalbone30192
    @johnalbone3019228 күн бұрын

    I think the buff to necro is nutty and people haven’t even caught on yet.

  • @dennymartinez9938

    @dennymartinez9938

    28 күн бұрын

    It's what I used for legend story with my kids, just deleting!

  • @tylerviloria4699

    @tylerviloria4699

    28 күн бұрын

    Wish I had the time to finish the catalyst and get the damn thing

  • @marshallman402

    @marshallman402

    6 күн бұрын

    Nah it’s just this has no champion busting affect and autos are not meta rn. Even then it’s not even Remotely outshine khostov or quicksilver. The other thing to consider is how much of the player base has this exotic. The grind to get it is insane compared to the other 2 autos I mentioned.

  • @dennymartinez9938

    @dennymartinez9938

    6 күн бұрын

    @marshallman402 if you are radiant which most builds now take advantage of or the artifact mod that let's you become radiant. Allows you to easy pop barriers!

  • @dennymartinez9938

    @dennymartinez9938

    6 күн бұрын

    @@marshallman402 a

  • @mommy2471
    @mommy247128 күн бұрын

    *IF ONLY I HAD ONE!!!*

  • @phoenix5029

    @phoenix5029

    27 күн бұрын

    Necro, or the class item? most of the folks will mention having a Discord server and suggest joining them to find LFG groups for raids and such. not everyone is a crapshoot on LFG, though I can certainly sympathize that taking that first step is the toughest...

  • @kassaken6521
    @kassaken652128 күн бұрын

    I want this weapon...but no one is playing the raid lol

  • @shahrozekhan9131
    @shahrozekhan913128 күн бұрын

    I wish titans had an exotic like necrotics would love more synergy with this gun

  • @Flecco

    @Flecco

    28 күн бұрын

    Precious scars. Rock arc special and heavy of your choice. Helps with arc Titans big problem, sustain.

  • @life-destiny1196

    @life-destiny1196

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Flecco wait do the cursed thrall explosions proc that since they do arc damage? that's sick

  • @jimmcmeen761
    @jimmcmeen76127 күн бұрын

    Warlocks have it all… would have been nice to make It part of the exotic class items like Bungie did taking Inmost light from Titan.

  • @qlALPHAlp
    @qlALPHAlp27 күн бұрын

    Didn’t Bungie wipe the intrinsic kinetic damage multiplier?

  • @jamesl9174
    @jamesl917428 күн бұрын

    Llama will you with 6 friends test wolf pack caster frames (ergo Polaris if you have) vs witness? Totally viable. But lfg won’t do it if they don’t see it. It’s 3rd person and don’t need crits. So you can focus on witness beams and not waste four lives in a damage phase lololol

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Noted!

  • @life-destiny1196

    @life-destiny1196

    28 күн бұрын

    @@LlamaD2 a friend of a friend fell for the caster frame April Fool's video like a month after the fact, so it'll be extremely funny if it turns out to be reasonable damage to just ergo heavy -> caster heavy -> repeat

  • @gnd111
    @gnd11127 күн бұрын

    Ive never had Necro and ive played since D1

  • @thealoofhermit
    @thealoofhermit26 күн бұрын

    didnt they take away the 10% buff for kinetics

  • @johnscott9936
    @johnscott993623 күн бұрын

    they removed the 10% kinetic damage buff with TFS

  • @TWIN.HTX4
    @TWIN.HTX428 күн бұрын

    Does this build work with the spirit Of necrotic?

  • @kingkurasaki4095

    @kingkurasaki4095

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes!

  • @TWIN.HTX4

    @TWIN.HTX4

    28 күн бұрын

    @@LlamaD2 btw Llama don't let G know you use Necrocosm😂 He's anal for sunshot....

  • @1124spawn
    @1124spawn28 күн бұрын

    I wish it wasnt a slog to get oversouls

  • @cjburch24
    @cjburch2424 күн бұрын

    Does anyone else think that necro feels more like an SMG and striga feels more like an AR?

  • @GDHdow
    @GDHdow27 күн бұрын

    i thought the kinetic 10% buff was removed? am i silly?

  • @user-eu9tl9ji2y
    @user-eu9tl9ji2y28 күн бұрын

    Can necro be competitive against outbreak because its so just insanely strong at everything

  • @phoenix5029

    @phoenix5029

    27 күн бұрын

    I'd imagine it's dependant on what you're using it for... both have good add clear, though this video might suggest it Necro edges out against Outbreak on that with the thrall explosions. for stopping power, though, Outbreak likely beats Necro, as the nanites enable the shots to do more damage... and it adds up faster with a team of them.

  • @_theloremaster
    @_theloremaster28 күн бұрын

    I just… don’t want to do crota that many times lol

  • @SSD_Penumbra

    @SSD_Penumbra

    27 күн бұрын

    They changed it months ago so that you have the potential to get all the souls at once like a normal exotic drop.

  • @ralpharambe163
    @ralpharambe16324 күн бұрын

    Pretty sure they removed the Kinettic damage bonus over other elements.

  • @daycejohnson
    @daycejohnson28 күн бұрын

    Wish hunters and titans got some synergy with weapons of sorrow, really lame that only one class gets this kind of synergy with so many weapons...

  • @thetoolie5917

    @thetoolie5917

    28 күн бұрын

    they do you just need to understand how to pair stuff, like necrochasm procs precious scars healing

  • @phoenix5029

    @phoenix5029

    27 күн бұрын

    Hunters also make use of Lucky Pants with Thorn, especially since the remnants from thorn kills can overflow the mag and let you stack damage without reloading.

  • @Ineednthelp
    @Ineednthelp27 күн бұрын

    Honestly the base look is still cooler tho.

  • @Meping385
    @Meping38528 күн бұрын

    Khvostov

  • @arjunbaweja7755

    @arjunbaweja7755

    28 күн бұрын

    bro that's better than.... HUH??

  • @gametozzzzz
    @gametozzzzz28 күн бұрын

    kinetic don't deal 10% more damage no more

  • @AmyrSkadi
    @AmyrSkadi28 күн бұрын

    Why couldnt spirit of necrotic been for everyone. Woulda been cool

  • @Johnatin
    @Johnatin28 күн бұрын

    Didn’t they get rid of the kinetic damage buff since it contributes to both light and dark transcendence?

  • @AstriaTheFox372

    @AstriaTheFox372

    28 күн бұрын

    Only on boss damage. On red bars it still does

  • @noble3887

    @noble3887

    28 күн бұрын

    No kinetics keep their damage buff towards red / orange bars. The only thing that was changed was they removed it against bosses.

  • @AnnaEh30
    @AnnaEh3028 күн бұрын

    I am still stuck on the stupid quest bc I am a solo player

  • @tylerviloria4699
    @tylerviloria469928 күн бұрын

    Wish I could finish the quest to get the gun and catalyst, just don’t have the time

  • @kannaharuka

    @kannaharuka

    23 күн бұрын

    No time for 1 raid a week? Rip

  • @tylerviloria4699

    @tylerviloria4699

    23 күн бұрын

    @@kannaharuka that’s what’s cool about having a life outside of video games and a very irregular work schedule👌🏻

  • @kannaharuka

    @kannaharuka

    23 күн бұрын

    @@tylerviloria4699 like not an hour or two over the course of a weekend or anything like that? For something you wish to obtain? My median clear time for crota is around 1:15:00 over 19 clears so i think if you reaally want it you could get it :)

  • @tylerviloria4699

    @tylerviloria4699

    23 күн бұрын

    @@kannaharuka the time I do get to spend on the game I spend trying to catch up on other things

  • @kannaharuka

    @kannaharuka

    23 күн бұрын

    @@tylerviloria4699 fair enough im just saying if you wish to get it you could 🤪

  • @sadclovvn
    @sadclovvn27 күн бұрын

    sadly getting nobody wants to fucking run crotas 😢

  • @germanchokolat1
    @germanchokolat121 күн бұрын

    Also the thrall explosion perk isnt even unique to the Necrochasm so im not even sure what makes this weapon special AND Excotic... i have that perk on a legendary hand cannon and auto rifle.... my auto rifle also has incandescent which is an insane combo...

  • @johnnywalker8282

    @johnnywalker8282

    11 күн бұрын

    The legendary auto is a garbage archatype and does 30% less damage than Necro.

  • @standupmoko9618
    @standupmoko961828 күн бұрын

    Watching you reload after getting a cursed thrall kill is painful since it autoloads you to 50 every time anyway

  • @noble3887

    @noble3887

    28 күн бұрын

    You reload to proc desperation

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    I was reproccing desperation!

  • @Dragonnd2

    @Dragonnd2

    28 күн бұрын

    @@LlamaD2 desperation procs of a cursed thrall kill

  • @noble3887

    @noble3887

    28 күн бұрын

    @@Dragonnd2 yes the perk can activate off that but to actually get the benefit you still have to reload. Once proc’d and reloaded the first time you can keep proc’ing it and not have to reload.

  • @TokyoLeee
    @TokyoLeee4 күн бұрын

    I got necrotic & star eaters tho :/

  • @Corndog-
    @Corndog-28 күн бұрын

    … was the kinetic 10% changed or just removed?

  • @sequoia7284

    @sequoia7284

    28 күн бұрын

    Removed from bosses, as the patch notes said.

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Still applies to red bars but NOT bosses :)

  • @noble3887
    @noble388728 күн бұрын

    Little tip. If your gonna use any necrotic build you should use the class item over the original gauntlets if you can as it does the same exact thing but has another exotic perk so it’s just better. **EDIT** Thanks for bringing up the fact that the damage doesn’t increase over time with the spirit of necrotic, I wasn’t aware of this. I retract my previous statement, spirit of necrotic is NOT better than the original. It by itself will only deal the lowest amount of tick damage regular necrotic does and will spread poison via weapons of sorrow. Probably still better if you’re going for a poison build to just use the original imo.

  • @GuardiosK

    @GuardiosK

    28 күн бұрын

    The exotic class item poison has less damage, probably a 45% drop from what I read.

  • @sequoia7284

    @sequoia7284

    28 күн бұрын

    The class item version does a LOT less damage.

  • @Flajukas
    @Flajukas27 күн бұрын

    Osteo 2.0

  • @AyyFuji
    @AyyFuji28 күн бұрын

    2:30 Didn't that get nerfed going into TFS?

  • @sequoia7284

    @sequoia7284

    28 күн бұрын

    No.

  • @icytor1150

    @icytor1150

    28 күн бұрын

    Against bosses yes. Against other enemies it's still there.

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Only against bosses, for red bars it still remains.

  • @AyyFuji

    @AyyFuji

    28 күн бұрын

    @@LlamaD2 I remembered the nerf, but forgot the specifics. Cheers

  • @limpyleg1570
    @limpyleg157028 күн бұрын

    Sorry but I’m not running the raid 40 times to get the gun and Catylyst.

  • @sequoia7284

    @sequoia7284

    28 күн бұрын

    Got it on my 2nd run

  • @jenarickman9215

    @jenarickman9215

    28 күн бұрын

    There is a chance to get all the stuff you need randomly on a clear per character. Also if you join a team on a final checkpoint and that team never left the raid, you will still get the two essence at the end

  • @life-destiny1196

    @life-destiny1196

    28 күн бұрын

    This is probably the least random raid exotic other than Divinity--you're guaranteed to get at least some progress every run. I got it from the bug where they forgot to turn off auto-drops on it after contest mode, so not sure exactly how many on average. It's also just not a super hard raid. Just gotta pay attention to the chalice meter and turn your ingame brightness up for encounter 1 and you'll be fine.

  • @mikethepublisher7910

    @mikethepublisher7910

    28 күн бұрын

    40 times? Brother it does NOT take that long

  • @alonilin
    @alonilin28 күн бұрын

    Give me auto rifle with passive barrier rounds..

  • @SSD_Penumbra

    @SSD_Penumbra

    27 күн бұрын

    Radiant from the seasonal artefact makes all your weapons anti-barrier.

  • @phoenix5029

    @phoenix5029

    27 күн бұрын

    there's also Facet of Dawn, which makes you Radiant on a melee ability hit

  • @alonilin

    @alonilin

    27 күн бұрын

    @@SSD_Penumbra oh.. Thank you

  • @gen8901
    @gen890128 күн бұрын

    Left, bye girls

  • @germanchokolat1
    @germanchokolat121 күн бұрын

    Hmmm... seems like graviton lance does the same thing but with no prerequisites and you can use any Excotic...

  • @heretolearn1354
    @heretolearn135427 күн бұрын

    yes its great no shhhh

  • @BoilingOrang
    @BoilingOrang28 күн бұрын

    they removed the 10% kenetic damage bonus when removing the spec mods, they said theyll also remove that dmg bonus so darkness kenetic weapons dont get overshadowef

  • @elegy8187

    @elegy8187

    28 күн бұрын

    They only removed the damage bonus against bosses, it still does 10% more damage to minor and major enemies.

  • @golddagger1276

    @golddagger1276

    28 күн бұрын

    This nerf was only for boss type enemy’s so unless you are dpsing with a kinetic auto rifle I think you’ll live

  • @BoilingOrang

    @BoilingOrang

    28 күн бұрын

    @@golddagger1276 oh my bad

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    It remains for red bars, they only removed the bonus on bosses.

  • @jupiterbupiter
    @jupiterbupiter28 күн бұрын

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought they removed the kinetic damage bonus for ALL weapons.

  • @luciosun9823

    @luciosun9823

    28 күн бұрын

    you are very correct. And this youtuber clearly forgot about this one.

  • @VorrtaX

    @VorrtaX

    27 күн бұрын

    only to bosses - reading is hard^^

  • @jupiterbupiter

    @jupiterbupiter

    26 күн бұрын

    @@VorrtaX Ohhhh is it? I never read TFS patch notes so LOL thank you for the info

  • @Justaduck456
    @Justaduck45628 күн бұрын

    Shame I’ll never get it cause I don’t have friends

  • @TrumanC

    @TrumanC

    28 күн бұрын

    bruh, i swear solo player never think of trying to step out their first step towards other human beings

  • @ballaxx3150

    @ballaxx3150

    28 күн бұрын

    @@TrumanCfr bro, I’ve been lfging since d1 and I’ve just never understood these people. It ain’t that hard to interact with people and this is coming from someone with social anxiety

  • @yet1muffin956
    @yet1muffin95628 күн бұрын

    2:44 kinetic weapons no longer have the damage buff over energy weapons btw. Changed with final shape😊

  • @BrainCellsTimelost

    @BrainCellsTimelost

    28 күн бұрын

    What did you read lol. It clearly said that damage buff against BOSS enemies. It still deals more against minors and majors.

  • @sequoia7284

    @sequoia7284

    28 күн бұрын

    Not correct. Read the patch notes.

  • @LlamaD2

    @LlamaD2

    28 күн бұрын

    Only against bosses my friend, the bonus remains for red bars.

  • @anthonywayne474
    @anthonywayne47427 күн бұрын

    imagine stealing Aztecross thumbnails 😭😭😭

  • @andrewmills3848
    @andrewmills384828 күн бұрын

    Heard you mention it a couple times, so you must have missed it. Kinetics no longer get the damage bonus against unshielded targets as of final shape.

  • @phoenix5029

    @phoenix5029

    27 күн бұрын

    and as mentioned frequently in the comments, you'll likely be made aware that this nerf only applies to Boss enemies, Red/Orange bars still get this damage boost on them.

  • @DB55Gaming
    @DB55Gaming28 күн бұрын

    Kinetics no longer have an intrinsic 10% or 15% damage bonus fyi

  • @thatguythere1750

    @thatguythere1750

    28 күн бұрын

    I believe they still do, but that bonus was removed for bosses. Not sure about mini bosses or elites.

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