Is Levshunov The 2024 NHL Draft's Most Overrated Prospect? - Prospect Talk #53

On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Grant McCagg, Shayne Gaumond and Rocco Zappia discuss overrated and underrated prospects in the 2024 NHL draft, the trade between the Chicago Blackhawks and the New York Islanders, the Memorial Cup and more!

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  • @anvilcloud
    @anvilcloud22 күн бұрын

    My wish for the various SICK podcasts is some sort of a timeline where we can easily click on the topics that interest us most.

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    I'll pass this along and highlight the amount of "likes" it got. That said, hopefully the whole thing interests you 😂 Thanks for watching and the feedback!

  • @user-superf

    @user-superf

    22 күн бұрын

    I like the show the way it is but sure a portion related to topics suggested by the crowd could be nice ( like eye test sick podcast) ...

  • @spooley

    @spooley

    21 күн бұрын

    Thank you, Hockey Jesus. 😉 ​@@roccozappia1284

  • @user-superf
    @user-superf22 күн бұрын

    Congrats Rocco... One of your best show

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    Much appreciated, thanks for tuning in!

  • @doom1354
    @doom135422 күн бұрын

    If Chicago drafts Demidov that top 6 is gonna be so extremely tiny with Nazar, Moore, Bedard, Demidov, and Reichel for this reason I wouldn't be surprised if they end up drafting Lindstrom 2nd overall.

  • @GiovannisKitchen

    @GiovannisKitchen

    22 күн бұрын

    Too many back issues for such a young kid... as a chiropractor... that scares me away from Lindstrom.

  • @FUN-fy5dd

    @FUN-fy5dd

    22 күн бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @Sgt.Hairclub

    @Sgt.Hairclub

    22 күн бұрын

    The other day, a Chicago podcast was talking with an expert who actually talked with Lindstrom on the phone. Lindstrom admitted to him that he's still slowly getting back from that injury. Awfully scary for a big guy who throws himself around like Cayden.

  • @Sgt.Hairclub

    @Sgt.Hairclub

    22 күн бұрын

    I agree, but Bedard is built like a fire hydrant and has the work ethic to get better at D. Nazar actually showed in the few games he played, that he's a willing defender. You're right though, Hawks desperately need a power forward with some skill. Demidov was listed at 5'11"? Who knows. You look at the Lightning, they make it happen with Point and Kucherov on the same line. I'm just wishful thinking.😆

  • @moviestoshare813
    @moviestoshare81321 күн бұрын

    35:00 Rocco on Kiviharju : “He couldn’t pin a message to a group chat, let alone a 200lbs forward to the boards” I’m dying 😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @BedardsBurner
    @BedardsBurner22 күн бұрын

    Brilliant trade! Love it! We have #2, #18, #34, #50 through the first 2 rounds…coming right back with pick #67 & #72 in the 3rd

  • @seanmyers5703

    @seanmyers5703

    22 күн бұрын

    I bet its Brandsegg Nygaard

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    3rd rounders aren’t really relevant. But FOUR picks in the Top FIFTY !!! THAT’s where you can realistically have a decent chance at picking impact players

  • @dangshnizzle6929
    @dangshnizzle692922 күн бұрын

    Lol it's almost as if Levshunov was in Blerusian juniors just 2 years ago or something. Of course he's behind the curve

  • @recruteshockey9700

    @recruteshockey9700

    19 күн бұрын

    Not if he's 21....ha ha

  • @mattatr0n677
    @mattatr0n67721 күн бұрын

    Weird to knock levshunov for the same things parekh does (abandoning his post) or dickinson (questionable decision making). It's why everything after 1 is so up in the air: everyone has flaws that can result in busting out. I for one think levshunovs extremely high work ethic would lead him to at least he a ristolainen type of pro

  • @alexbarrette9762

    @alexbarrette9762

    21 күн бұрын

    Parekh has way more offensive upside. His IQ is gamebreaking. He has defensive lapse mainly because he gets stripped of the puck due to being to lanky . When this kid add up a few pounds of muscle he’s going to be a problem.

  • @Lebowski55
    @Lebowski5522 күн бұрын

    Rocco's analysis of the Chi/NYI trade is spot on. Grant's is from left field.

  • @Jean_Maurice

    @Jean_Maurice

    22 күн бұрын

    Grant "left field" "no hockey sense" McCagg

  • @pierredenonville8915
    @pierredenonville891522 күн бұрын

    Great show guys

  • @costa328
    @costa32819 күн бұрын

    The first D to go should be Sam Dickinson. If Montreal would pick him up, I would have no problem with it.

  • @kylepooyak4511
    @kylepooyak451122 күн бұрын

    Loved the grapes joke lmao

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    😂 I was pretty pleased with myself there for sure

  • @bijanravanbakhsh3530
    @bijanravanbakhsh353020 күн бұрын

    "crazy" ivan to the hawks at #2. would be very happy if the hawks are lucky enough to draft 1 or 2 of the following def. between #18 and #50 - emery, badinka, solberg, kleber, freij, and pulkkinen.

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale338922 күн бұрын

    I'm not a scout, but I do know that highlights can be used to prove anything. Its Like the "Jay Walking" segment on the Tonight Show. How many interviews with people giving the correct answers were not used because they weren't funny? You might believe that everyone in the country is uninformed if you watch that show. Same with highlights, you can select highlights that prove whatever you want.

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    Highlights are much like statistics in that way. They can certainly be used in different ways to try and prove different points. Unfortunately, in a one hour episode we only have so much time to work with, so highlights is what we have to rely on. That said, if you've seen full games (or other highlights) that might combat the points we made, I'm always up for a healthy debate, provided you took the time to watch the full games like we did. All that said, your original point is for sure true, but we do try our best to paint as accurate a picture as we can. Thanks for watching!

  • @malakaspawt3190

    @malakaspawt3190

    22 күн бұрын

    Man, that was some nightmarish highlights from Levshunov! I hope that his good highlights makes up for it. His skating is super slow. He's not doing it on purpose but he makes it look like he is over-handling the puck when he loses it like that or when he can't recover an easy puck. That makes him look clumsy! Before seeing him play, (going only with his age, size, height and stats), I thought he wouldn't "survive" the top 4, meaning he wouldn't be available for MTL. I was imagining him as a responsible D who could put points on the board. Now, I am not entirely sure. Those highlights sort of convinced me that he isn't worthy to be in the top 5 at all, but you are 100% correct that segments can portray only a fraction of one side of the coin sort of speak. Surely, there's more to his hockey than just that because what I just saw with those highlights makes it hard to believe that kid (Levshunov) is in the top 6 best D's and one of the best of this year's draft and if he is then it makes the whole draft look weak.

  • @rickroberts5401
    @rickroberts540122 күн бұрын

    Some Don Cherry stuff lol... Great show as always guys and I would pick Parekh and Buium ahead of Levshunov also... Owen Beck looked good last night against Moose Jaw...

  • @nicktsirmbas3637
    @nicktsirmbas363722 күн бұрын

    Great show

  • @nathanmulcahy2297
    @nathanmulcahy229722 күн бұрын

    I remember seeing buuim for first at the world juniors. It was early in the tournament. He looked like the best player on the states team by far. Was surprised when I looked at his rankings he was in the 20s. Glad to see he's climbed the ladder

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    He's a star in the making, IMO

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    @@roccozappia1284 ​​⁠ Agreed ! I have him 4th on my board ! Speaking of my board, would be curious to know your thoughts on it Rocco 1. Macklin Celebrini 2. Ivan Demidov 3. Zayne Parekh 4. Zeev Buium 5. Cayden Lindstrom 6. BECKETT SENNECKE 7. Berkly Catton 8. LIAM GREENTREE 9. Tij Iginla 10. STIAN SOLBERG 11. Carter Yakemchuk 12. Sam Dickinson 13. Michael Hage 14. HENRY MEWS 15. Teddy Stiga 16. JESSE PULKKINEN 17. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard (MBN) 18. Andrew Basha 19. Konsta Helenius 20. Anton Silayev 21. Cole Beaudoin 22. Terik Parascak 23. Cole Hutson 24. Igor Chernyshov 25. YEGOR SURIN 26. Ryder Ritchie 27. Alfons Freij Notes : -Connelly & Eiserman on a “No Draft” list for me -Levshunov I think is a future Phillip Broberg type of bust / disappointment -Silayev & Helenius are future disappointments for the teams that will be picking them imo. NOT because they will be bad players, but because I don’t see them becoming worthy of the high high picks they will be taken at. In other words, I don’t see them over-achieving vis-a-vis their selection rank, I actually see them UNDER-achieving their draft selection rank

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    20 күн бұрын

    We have the same Top 5, although in slightly different order. This class is wide open, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. At quick glance I think you have Yakemchuk and Dickinson a bit low, and Mews as your most "too high". I have time for Levshunov and Silayev as prospects, they're both going to play in the league, I just think you're leaving a lot of upside on the board with them in the Top 5. Anywhere outside the Top 5 if you get a sure-thing D with size who will play in the league it's never a "bad" pick. Conservative pick, yes, but bad, no. My thoughts on Eiserman I've been pretty open about, I don't want to sound like I'm always shitting on the kid. He's talented as hell and if he changes his game a bit he could make me look awfully silly for doubting the talent.

  • @Lebowski55
    @Lebowski5522 күн бұрын

    Kurashev had great chemistry with Bedard in the NHL and he was a 4th round pick. Kurashev is a much more talented player than Tanner Howe and the Blackhawks would've been crazy to give up 3 draft picks to draft Kurashev. They aren't drafting Tanner Howe.

  • @loukdare2904
    @loukdare290422 күн бұрын

    You do realize Grant that the only reason the Isles and Blackhawks made this trade was to eff you up.

  • @lucasolive6379
    @lucasolive637922 күн бұрын

    Grant doesn't read the comments but I appreciate his SCTV 3D House of Pancakes mug to camera move lololol

  • @GiovannisKitchen
    @GiovannisKitchen22 күн бұрын

    I couldn't agree more with your analysis on Buium and Parekh. If Davidson doesn't feel intimidated into making either a 2nd pick,... then that is the route you go. I just don't know if he has that gumption as a new GM to not go with the picks everyone is touting as a top defenseman. This is why I think he could try 31:20 trading down to the 6-9 position if either is willing to not only swap...but give them a 2nd or even a first in 2026.

  • @kannonballz
    @kannonballz22 күн бұрын

    Is there a chance that maybe someone put a bug in Chicagos ear that Vegas (19th pick), was really interested in a player that Chicago wanted at 20th

  • @BedardsBurner

    @BedardsBurner

    22 күн бұрын

    Could be that, or playing defense to keep someone from trading up to spot 18 or 19 ahead of them to snipe their pick. Harder for a team behind them to stretch that much further and give up that much more 🤷🏻‍♂️ we know players fall every year. Smart to start moving up before teams get excited with who is still left on the board

  • @rafaelluizmeneses7527
    @rafaelluizmeneses752721 күн бұрын

    Only 30% of second rounders plays more than 100 NHL games historically

  • @michaels2502
    @michaels250219 күн бұрын

    Would be helpful if you put the prospect's name as a lower third during a segment. If Grant/Rocco don't repeat the name... listeners (who are multi-tasking) can get lost with who is being talked about when segments go on for a decent amount of time.

  • @Lebowski55
    @Lebowski5522 күн бұрын

    They Blackhawks are not trading 3 draft picks for Tanner Howe LOL. Tanner Howe is a 5'10" 3rd - 4th line player in the NHL.

  • @spooley
    @spooley21 күн бұрын

    Still don't get the Chicago angle. There are always teams making picks out of left field and nearing the end of rd 1 the commentary becomes "how are Smith and Jones still available?" Odds are your pick will be there, esp if its some lesser rated prospect no one has scouted heavily.

  • @tonytitani410
    @tonytitani41022 күн бұрын

    Probably not a good idea to release this video trashing him before Habs pick, when we NEED a top 4 team before to pick him! 🥴

  • @moviestoshare813
    @moviestoshare81321 күн бұрын

    Props to Grant for spotting & praising Solberg EARLY ON !!! But Grant, re-listen to how you described him… Forget where you ranked him. Just focus on how you DESCRIBED him. Given what you said (with the kid’s play BACKING your words), I think your description deserves an BETTER rank than Top-20. To me, what you said & what the kid showed… It’s Top-10 all day. He reminds me of a mix between Miro Heiskanen & Simon Nemec. PLUS : I think he’s more physical than BOTH of them

  • @greateveryday22
    @greateveryday2210 күн бұрын

    Can someone rank, these leagues, WHL, USHL, NCAA DIV I, OHL, QMJHL, and MHL from most competitive- best to least competitive - worst league.

  • @viclevis
    @viclevis20 күн бұрын

    How does Reinbacher fare against the Levshunov standard here?

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    20 күн бұрын

    MUCH better defensively !!! (Reinbacher)

  • @habinations
    @habinations22 күн бұрын

    thats cool.

  • @davey989
    @davey98920 күн бұрын

    Until he gets drafted by the Habs, then he'll be great.

  • @nicktsirmbas3637
    @nicktsirmbas363722 күн бұрын

    Great show Zayne parekh is going top 5 no doubt about it he was unbelievable in first game of the Memorial cup tournament

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    Shhhhh he's going to Ottawa at 7

  • @bsu88

    @bsu88

    20 күн бұрын

    Parekh is one of the worst defending junior players I've ever tracked.

  • @glenncampbell2493
    @glenncampbell249321 күн бұрын

    Habs trade the 5th pick to Black hawks 2nd,along with Barron and Harris

  • @tomslick2058
    @tomslick205821 күн бұрын

    Im thinking Hawks take Demitov. 18 gets them a better defenseman. Would not complain if Hawks went off board at 2 and took Iginla. I think hes a sure thing with no drama. Hate a Levshunov pick. His being right handed is making him desirerable. Last year they tried hard to move from 20 for Moore. They got him anyway.

  • @GiovannisKitchen
    @GiovannisKitchen22 күн бұрын

    I believe he is. I believe the Hawks are in the most undesirable position at #2 this year. They are expected to take Demidov or Levshunov. I am not high on either prospect. They Hawks should TRADE DOWN and grab a first from 2026

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    No one is gonna trade an unprotected 1st rounder 2 years in advance In a draft with a GENERATIONAL player like Gavin McKenna lmao

  • @GiovannisKitchen

    @GiovannisKitchen

    20 күн бұрын

    @@moviestoshare813 Unless they don't plan on tanking in two years.🤔

  • @nicktsirmbas3637
    @nicktsirmbas363722 күн бұрын

    They draft connelly at 18 overall no doubt

  • @dparis2172

    @dparis2172

    22 күн бұрын

    Not happening.

  • @fubartotale3389

    @fubartotale3389

    22 күн бұрын

    Who, the Hawks? No way Jose, too much baggage. After recent history, the Hawks are baggage averse.

  • @moviestoshare813
    @moviestoshare81321 күн бұрын

    I’ve said it for a while now and I’ll die on that hill : Artyom Levshunov reminds me of PHILLIP. BROBERG !!! Big & Can skate like the wind. But poor hockey IQ.

  • @Sgt.Hairclub
    @Sgt.Hairclub22 күн бұрын

    I certainly hope the Hawks pass on Levshunov. Not because he's possibly twenty, but because the Hawks have enough prospects at D. Anyone who watched that record-breaking turd of a season knows the Hawks need star prospects at forward.

  • @mikegravel5310
    @mikegravel531016 күн бұрын

    Demidov is not 5,11 is not True he are 6,1

  • @Jean_Maurice
    @Jean_Maurice22 күн бұрын

    I really like your podcast to know how to not think and act. How to throw down players to get higher others. Thanks to show me the way to not act and think. 🙌🏻

  • @TrendyTopiques
    @TrendyTopiques22 күн бұрын

    Yea why couldn't you just trade 20 for 18 😜

  • @BaneOfV
    @BaneOfV22 күн бұрын

    Would you guys agree Sam Dickinson is a better D than Levshunov?

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    Can I answer this after the Memorial Cup? 😂

  • @BaneOfV

    @BaneOfV

    22 күн бұрын

    @@roccozappia1284 fair haha yeah forward core I'm set on my views but these D, so hard to compare

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@BaneOfV they're all slightly different from one another. I've had them in just about every possible order at points this year. Going to make for a fun draft day

  • @royanderson3478
    @royanderson347822 күн бұрын

    Button likes 👍 this Finnish player at #3. Does anyone know 🤔 about his skills set? #3 pick are generally can't miss .

  • @Jean_Maurice

    @Jean_Maurice

    22 күн бұрын

    Click bait stuff.

  • @xsakic1772

    @xsakic1772

    22 күн бұрын

    He's really good two way C. Floor is 2C and could become a 1C. Probably a 70-80 pts guy. Reminds me of Hischier a little bit. I'd have him more between 8-10th pick tho.

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@xsakic1772 good take

  • @KamilBarwinski-kv8gt
    @KamilBarwinski-kv8gt22 күн бұрын

    cayden lindstrom most overated prospect for me

  • @CanadianChiGuy23

    @CanadianChiGuy23

    22 күн бұрын

    Here's hoping he's available at #18.

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale338922 күн бұрын

    A word of advice, dont try to predict what "Mr Anonymous" has in mind. His name is Kyle Davidson BTW. The Hawks had seven picks in the first three rounds, now they have six. Stay tuned.

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    Predictions make for entertaining debate and discussion, which is what we hope to provide each week. We will almost certainly be wrong, and that's okay, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what the Hawks have up their sleeve!

  • @stevequtaq
    @stevequtaq22 күн бұрын

    That seems right Grant. Maybe don't interrupt Hockey Jesus so often. That has been happening a bunch lately, yet your disciple doesn't ever return the pleasure. You are the guru, be calm.

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    22 күн бұрын

    😂😂 I am really enjoying the Hockey Jesus thing, makes me laugh every time. Grant is actually a great guy, I wish he'd get a bit more credit. Say what you will about his old school mannerisms, the guy works as hard as anyone in the biz. Wakes up, scouts, goes to bed. Day in, day out. Gotta respect that, I think

  • @stevequtaq

    @stevequtaq

    21 күн бұрын

    @@roccozappia1284 Absolutely Rocco. I 100% agree with you. I love Grant and his hard earned expertise, knowledge and insight. He should be supremely confident of his knowledge and place on the podcast. So why does he feel so insecure that he has to lash out?

  • @roccozappia1284

    @roccozappia1284

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@stevequtaq Makes for an entertaining episode. Sometimes we will like to bicker for the sake of it. I'm all for it, we're big boys!

  • @royanderson3478
    @royanderson347822 күн бұрын

    Don't read comments. 😊

  • @spencerchaisson4741
    @spencerchaisson474122 күн бұрын

    I dont like the Solberg comment because im almost confident he goes 14 to the Sharks. Hes basing "underrated" based on old twitter lists IMO

  • @judistzoinkiski3395
    @judistzoinkiski339522 күн бұрын

    There alot of over rated prospect but than again noone know what that word means.

  • @Jean_Maurice
    @Jean_Maurice22 күн бұрын

    27:06 yeah yeah. This is good for Levshunov but not for Michkov and Demidov? Stupid comment. Secondly, Levshunov is not Russian. Know your stuff damn!

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    Go cry somewhere else

  • @Robert-wy5so
    @Robert-wy5so22 күн бұрын

    If the guy doesn't even know the name of the Hawks GM do I need to hear his opinion the draft?

  • @fourwinged
    @fourwinged22 күн бұрын

    Last year, most overrated = Reinbacher This year, most overrated = Lindstrom

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    Respecfully disagree. Last year would be Nate Danielson imo. This year 100% Levshunov. And then : Silayev, Helenius & MBN

  • @QRM00
    @QRM0022 күн бұрын

    Sorry boys, dropping a dislike. As soon as I heard that trash conspiracy theory about Levshunov being 20, I realized this was the wrong source to go to for opinions on prospects.

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeahhhh… Because these things NEVER happened, am I right ? Mikahil Grigorenko… does that ring a bell ????

  • @TheSDC81
    @TheSDC8121 күн бұрын

    Always gross to shit on kids trying to succeed. Not sorry. Be better.

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    They talk about prospects. If they think they should go lower than what they are projected to go… Of course you have to mention negative points, of why that is. L take from you on that one.

  • @Jean_Maurice
    @Jean_Maurice22 күн бұрын

    Grant "No hockey sense" McCagg. We all know why he was not a great scout for the Habs and why he do a click bait podcast. Man this guy is so overrated and nonsense guy.

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    You DO know… you don’t have to watch the channel, right ??? Keep the hate to yourself, and go find other channels if you dislike this one

  • @Jean_Maurice

    @Jean_Maurice

    20 күн бұрын

    @@moviestoshare813this guy have a platform to put his strange ideas, I have the rights to counter them. Thanks for that suggestion. 👍🏻

  • @Jean_Maurice
    @Jean_Maurice22 күн бұрын

    Can you tell me how a player is overrated before he even play a single NHL game?!? You are not serious. Better say, you are less and less serious. Few days ago, Laine, now this strange stuff. This podcast is maybe the most overrated in all hockey ones.

  • @rgh021

    @rgh021

    20 күн бұрын

    Your argument is flawed from the start. They're talking about the body of work that the player has shown up to now and how people are missing the weaknesses in his game. If we use your logic then nobody should have Celebrini as a lock for first overall because he has never played an NHL game. They are saying "If he continues to follow this play style his game likely won't translate to the NHL." If you don't like the content don't watch it.

  • @Dcheen
    @Dcheen22 күн бұрын

    Grant is that old white uncle on Facebook who stirs up conspiracy theories to get reactions from his younger nieces and nephews. Thumbs down on this episode for me. Just brutal to throw this much shade at an 18 year old. Shameful.

  • @moviestoshare813

    @moviestoshare813

    21 күн бұрын

    If anything, I’d say Grant is not into conspiracy theories ENOUGH 😂🤷‍♂️ Grant is amazing. So are Rocco & Shayne. They talk about prospects. If they think they should go lower than what they are projected to go… Of course you have to mention negative points, of why that is. L take from you on that one.

  • @beelzeebub1
    @beelzeebub122 күн бұрын

    Levshunov sure seems to be .Eiserman was early on . Good show, nice points made .

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