pulled from the archives. its available in the USA now as well.

@gangstargash

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say, I thought you’d run back after your 5K, quick shave, swapped cars back! I have just purchased the DA8 machine with Koch P6.01 based off your previous recommendations. All from in2detailing. Also using your code 👌🏽 I am super excited to correct the paint on the E92 next weekend! Fingers crossed for good weather!

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

@@gangstargash awesome take your time mate and enjoy the process, love a nice E92. if you have any questions on the day ping me here I will do my best to help

@gangstargash

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing I really appreciate that Jon. It was you who has given me the confidence to go for it! I was originally going to pay a local company but after watching your video tutorials thought I’d give it a go myself!

@gary7323

3 жыл бұрын

Jon can them purple Flex pads be used on a 4.5inch backing plate or would there be too much over hang . Really struggling getting pads to suit this machine , ideally a 5 inch pad would be perfect

@gary7323

3 жыл бұрын

This is for the flex 3401 with the 4.5inch backing plate

I looked at that and thought I have just been outside for 5 hours working on 2 cars (1 absolute state in and out), I am now defrosting in the bath, and there are you in your shorts! Then I saw the comment on this being from the archives... 😁

I have been using this beast for over three years and I still cant find anything better...good job Jon!!!

A great compound, used it last year on my wife car to remove all the swirls and some imperfections. Done a great job, then used F6 and didn’t feel the need to use a M3 or P3. Car still looks good now. I am a big fan of these compounds and polish. Also have the Koch pads for my DA. Would recommend them to anyone.

I can only speak for the H9, but I can confirm, it is a fantastic product, even using their heavy cut red backed pad it still finishes up amazingly. It removes the majority of swirls, anything that doesn’t get removed usually needs a wet sand and the finish, to most people’s eyes, is perfect. I usually finish with their M3 micro cut and purple backed pad and the differences are visible but only slightly. It just adds to that extra wet look.

The H9 is truly a brilliant product. I combine it with a wool pad, it takes cutting to a new height on a DA. Thanks for a good review.

These are great compounds 👍 been using these since they first came to the U.K. and I still use them both to date. Work fantastic on all paints depending on what pads you choose

so weird i’ve just sat down from using this exact compund. Fantastic heavy cutting polish - got to be one of the best out there. The gloss it leaves despite it’s high cut is amazing. Can dust up if you hammer it hard on a rotary but a for DA it’s a sublime polish. Cuts so quick and easy, breaks down nice and predictably

@forensicDetailingChannel not been here for a while but now iv got a mk6 golf R and wanting to really look after it “I’m back” and got to say fella your looking very well,i see you running & getting fit,really happy for you,keep it up and the great content 👊

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome back tony

Been using H9 for a good time now and is my go compound 👍🏻

Used this very product today as a single stage on the rotary with a black pad Jon, great gloss levels but can be a little oily, Koch Cheme by far my favourite abrasive 👍

The gopro shot on the polisher is awesome. I wish there was some spotlight at an angle to see through the compound on the paint surface

Koch ChemiH8 is all I use at Aston Martin, amazing product. The H9 I've used for a seriously bad swirled and pig tailed roof on a DB11, it's just got the extra cut.

@danlc95

3 жыл бұрын

Those exotics always seem to come in with serious pigtails. I used 3D501 on the last DB11 I did. I have the KC now. I'll give it a shot the next time around.

Great video....im gonna have to try it now

Used it on an Astra with a severe case of Bush rash. I then refined it with Koch chemie micro cut and sealant with spectacular results. So it's a bit pricey but with spectacular results I'm prepared to live with it. Love and peace ✌

Great channel jon. A video on using that Koch on black paint work that has orange peel would be great.

Got the heavy medium and anti hologram. They're awesome.

Thanks for the Video! I have H8 and H9 here but actually I feel that Carpro Clearcut is more fast to do a good cutting process... I don't know if the clima here in Brazil have anything to do with it... I will test the Koch Chemie cutting compounds a little more for now on in different kinds os clearcoats... Sorry for my bad english!😁

Iv also seen a guy on fb use h9 on Tesla with rupes blue wool pad and he was debating to refine it or not imo it’s a very good one step

Did you use it on your stubble Jon?

John, you used to love the S3 Gold. How you compare these two?

Where is he getting his haircut during lockdown? ;) love the video!!

@lewiskennedy5152

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashterfadgadget817 to late!! I shaved my hair off about a month ago and now it’s starting to grow back I’m looking like a proper scruff!!..

Have you done a review on Rupes compound/polish/pads?

I can attest that H8.02 ( predecessor ) is amazing

Hi Jon. Quality vid as always. Quick question. I have a das6 pro with orange and white CG hex pads. Need a cutting compound and polish. Was looking at the DK 1.1 and finale. Is this koch stuff any better? Looking at using on my e92 and on a fiat 500. 🙏🏻

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

the difference in these products are very very very small. DK 1.1 and finale will work great. I recomend Koch H9 F6 M3 teamed up with Flex purple and orange pads. The pads will last a LOT longer that the hex logics but they are more expensive. I would just go ahead with DK1.1 and finale I know these products are they will work great...

@ianroblin2933

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing That's from Jon so that's good enough for me. Thanks mate.👍 Going to finish it off with either in2detailing ceramic wax or bilt hamber dsw

Would you recommend a combination of Koch abrasives and Koch pads on a short throw forced rotation machine (e.g. the Makita offering)? Or would you normally go for a different pad on that kind of machine in 5"/125mm format?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

I recomend koch abrasives with flex pads. these pads just last up longer and can take a hammering before the surface start breaking down. flex purples and flex oranges for 99% of normal cuttting and finishing.

@serenahansen2394

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing thank you x

rupes uno protect is my go to product......I’ve used the them all and this stuff blows them out the water buy far......Different pad different cut but works on what ever pad is needed.....paint work is mirror central.= WINNER.

Another interesting video. I'm planning on detailing correcting my bmw carbon black paintwork using a da polisher for the first time. I'm going to follow up with tac systems moonlight, what compound and refining polish would u recommend?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom H9 M3 flex purples to cut oranges to polishing.

@tomashton5117

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing Thankyou for the advice

Hi I have 30 year Audi 80 single stage paint in white and has some deep marks and was wondering if this product would work, great video by the way 👌👍

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

yes m8 it will be great

Maybe a new compound test is due? Lost of new cutting compounds on the market now. Atm I’m running with the new DA course for my cutting with the DA and cut max ultimate for the rotary. DA fine for finishing. The new Rupes compounds have very good lubrication for the DA or gear driven.

The KCx explanation for the slightly higher cuts on the abrasive line released in America is because of the high rate of random orbit machines being used in the US. The higher cut rating is to make up for the cutting ability of the machine being used.

@AmirAbdullah

3 жыл бұрын

Probably the most valuable comment of them all I’ve seen here. Good info.

@scottmattern482

3 жыл бұрын

@@AmirAbdullah I'm happy I can help

@danlc95

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent intel.

hello good afternoon, i have a seat ibiza 6j fr in white color ... Recently polished my car with polish koch chemie h9 and microfiber pad for cutting ... At the end of the cut I went through the finishing phase, I used a sonax perfect finish with a white rupee beret, and I didn't see any differences .... So I experimented with the essence of carpro, it was the same ..... I didn't notice no difference from polishing to finishing .... Did the k9 chemie h9 cut and finish ?! it's possible ?! it only has a 5 finish, and a 10 cut .... Somebody help me ?!

Jon, I have the P06 and M03 for use with the Flex, which was would you go with H8 or H9 as a complement to my other two?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

H9 is using the most modern offering of abrasive tech but sheesh honestly H8 never ever lets me down. Im really tempted to buy H8 when I run out. but I think you have to trust the companies so I would recomend you go with H9.

@martin1649

3 жыл бұрын

If you're fine with the 20% price increase, you might aswell get the H9. But the H8 is already good as is, just a little bit cheaper.

Kock Chemie is highly spoken if from everyone I know. Nice show.

What pad would you go with to correct a 2020 Audi finished Mythos black using this compound?

@jdisdetermined

3 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to one step or two? I'd try a 50/50, if you're lucky, it'll do it all in one trip. Otherwise, use the Koch pads, they work great. 👍

If H8.02 is more oily does it goes also longer? I use H8.02 and agree that it's excellent!

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

Im not sure if saying its more oily is right but its just a little bit different. hard to say

I’ve been using h9 for about 2 years now. I found h8 has a slightly longer working time. H9 is better I’ve found on newer cars as they is a lot less residue come back where as h8 with its oilier consistency allows a safer and easier removal of hazed or uv damaged paint. In my opinion Koch don’t make a bad product they are my go to brand for everything

Jon, H8 / H9 or Scholl G3 XXL Gold?

Time warp - Summer heat, the M140’s back and Koch isn’t in the U.S yet!

Hi there, i have a pair of uv damaged (clear coat has gone foggy) headlights that i wet flatted, polished and ceramic coated with the old version of CQuartz UK ceramic coating but it's only lasted just over a year and now needs redoing. Do you have any better solutions that may be more permanent? i was thinking about getting the In2Detailing aerosol primer and clear coat but i was under the impression clear coats effect the light pattern?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

boom. I wish I could frame this. when you take the factory clear off your lens you will be forever needing to repolish. You better off seeing if you can get some new chinese lens that clip on to your existing headlights. using a clearcoat solution will be more perminant make sure you key the surface then degrease and tack cloth it then you can use a plastic primer and a clearcoat. But you will find you will only get a year out of it, at least in my experience.

@K2edg

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing Ahh ok, i was just reading up and saw the Detailing Kingdom kit on In2detailing that they say has a 3 year life or the SprayMax 684099 kit which looks very similar. Might give that a go......

Hi Jon. Even though the Koch Chemie H9 and the whole range is solvent based not water and thicker than i would like, it and the range are amazing. If anyone has a car with a paint finish lacking clarity, it will make it Super clear really quickly. I love F6 too. The pads are excellent for DA machines, not tried them on rotary. h9 is far better than alot of other compounds. great for single stage paint as it can break down the coloured paint residue better than a water based one can. This keeps the pad from turning that colour and clogging the fibres or foam cells and reducing the effectiveness of the abrasives. I follow h9 with a water based polish for maximum colour richness and gloss. I give koch a 9.5/10

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

Are you 100% sure theres no water in it matt? would not surprise me but it just breaks down under water so I thought it was an emulsion.

@matthewgibb2640

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing oh yes it has water in it and is still an emulsion but is it an oil in water formula or water in oil. Oil in water is better usually. The way it handles single stage paint residue so much better than the water based stuff i mainly use, thats why i feel it is solvent/oil based not a true waterborne. Though perhaps its just different solvents. Im no chemist but i was mentored by one but i can always be wrong. Regardless, koch is a great lineup

odd question i know, but as my back and knees are knackered what is that stool on wheels youve got as that would be a blessing for working on car when machine polishing etc. Many thanks

@Rob.Coleman

3 жыл бұрын

It's called a mechanics stool 👍.

@Kentish9494

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rob.Coleman many thanks

I have an 04 year ford focus metallic black where the paint is dull and lost its shine, almost matt like in some areas would you recommend koch h9? Is this an all in one product?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

I totally recomend H9 F6 and M3. the only caviat to this is picking a high cutting compound might not always been suitable approach for your cars specific issues and I can give general advice on whats best for your car without seeing it. This is not a AIO this is a high cut pure abrasives with a really good level of finish. But this trio of products are really all you need. If you have a machine polisher you should have these 3 abrasives.

What’s the best pads to use with each of the compounds ? I’ve got all 3 and I want to find the best pads for each plz reply , I have a rotary polisher btw

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

I recomend flex purples and flex oranges. have a watch of my video the DA15 and DA12 review I talk about them.

@larns9054

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing okay thanks John

Can you tell me a good and long lasting back to black on the plastic trim round my wheel arches thanks

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

solution finish is a full on pigmented trim restorer steve. for a more casual dressing that also darkens then try carpro perl (follow exact dilution rations with perl)

@stevencollins4981

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing thanks I will give it a try love the Chanel my car and wife’s are looking brilliant

S2 Black is my current favorite. Never tried H9.

Way better than Mafra Corrector and Meznerna 400. Nearly no dusting and just great cutting capabilities and pretty good finish. Think this product triggered my love with Koch Chemie and made me abandon other commercial brands like Meguiar's

Hay can you do a video for IGL products please 🙏

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

its unlikely I can do a brand review there just isnt the interest to merrit the time it takes to test out like a whole load of products and film videos on them. ITs a few days work for like 20 quid view revenue or something. but I will try and get some IGL products in our comparisons I appreciate its good stuff.

should you always use a hard/heavy pad with it?

@ForensicDetailing

22 күн бұрын

To cut use high cut pad. But you could single stage it on softer pad

H9 or S20 black or 3D ACA 510 or roar 610 plus?

New subscriber here

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!!

Double uploads 😀😀

Hey Jon do you know what’s the difference between H7 and H8

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

quesiton for koch really buddy.

4th Sir Jon, try to do lots of stretching today and abs excercises. Lots of routines with apps. Keep going strong.

CarPro Ultracut is a badass

@danlc95

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is!

Can it be used by hand rather than machine?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

hey buddy, you dont really correct car paintwork by hand as such. you would use like a hand polish glaze thing where the fillers can help you. So yes you "could" use by hand but really its a machine polisher compound

If Koch is your compound winner what is your go to 1-step? K6 or maybe Scholl S20 black?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

I will be trying to answer this soon on the channel with a "best of.. " test.

@marksafady5986

3 жыл бұрын

S2 Black is the best!!!!

@marksafady5986

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing please use a DA in this test.

I know this might be a stupid question, but why the hell does H9 dust up and sometimes ball up on me? What am I doing wrong? It's an amazing product and I want to continue to use it.

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

you have to manage the spent polish the pad more. dusting is just the carrier drying out. If you keep going with one pad and dont remove residues eventually you get dust.. if you run the DA on a high speed you can get too much dusting. But koch h9 is pretty good on dustying H8 to.. but they definetly can be made to dust. Ball up , im not sure what you mean. some polishing I see bed down on the panel but ive not seen this with H9. But if you try koch and dont like it you can try Scholl s2 black heavy cutting if you like. you might prefer this? some do but Ive literally not found anything with the koch products that makes me want to change.

@barrygwilliam5367

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your imput. I've saved up and bought a XFE 15 and PXE 80. I'll try the XFE on speed 3-4. Ball up. If you imagine you have flower on your kitchen side, move your hand around and around over it, it clumps up into balls. I've tried Scholls but swaped it for Koch due to your recommendations :-)

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

@@barrygwilliam5367 Ive not really seen polish do this barry. what pads are you running mate.

@barrygwilliam5367

3 жыл бұрын

I was impatient so got some yellow Hex Logic pads. I wanted to get some purple/violet flex pads but in2detailing were out of stock and still are.

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

@@barrygwilliam5367 slims have some barry. but yellow hex should be ok though.

H9 or Meguiar's G17216EU Ultimate Compound Colour & Clarity Restorer, for first time rough job turn around a pink car

@ForensicDetailing

2 жыл бұрын

H9 for me mate.

@zzhughesd

2 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing I can imagine Jon, you're a pro and it's a pro product, Meguiar's remind me of mass consumerism, or Turtle Wax or hoover for hoovering. Enjoyed you on the POD the other day

Can this rescue to red car gone Pink, Vauxhall, and save money from the Plus Renovator £45 product by AutoGlym? Thanks Dan

the best indeed.

Jon could I be cheeky and request a wax recipie. A glossy show wax to brew at home.

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

we done many videos gregg on making waxes and on lots of these videos the receipes are in the description.

@greggsmith5391

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing thanks Jon i have watched them all lol was just wondering what your final recipe was after all the testing and research. I see the autoglaze kit is no longer available.

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

@@greggsmith5391 gregg you have to understand since doing this wax stuff I get about 20 people a week asking me for a final wax recipe. if I told it to you I would have told it now to thousands of people. you have to put in the hard yards mate and that means having the passion for wax making and devoting years to it. just fast track to an endgame nothing good will happen. but from passion and hours spent failing and trying recipes then cool journeys, friendships, innovation etc and things can happen.

@greggsmith5391

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply Jon. Yea you are 100% right I won't learn anything if u give me the end awnser. I have ordered sum waxes and carrier oils sum grap seed and nut oils. Going down the odorless kerosene route. What about lamp oil ? I take it that's roughly the same. Cant wait to give it a try. My end goal is a nice glossy show wax that hazes in a maximum of 20mins. Oo and with a hint of bananna smell lol. Again thanks for the reply your a gent. 🤙

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

@@greggsmith5391 my advice to you is to spend a year working on a simple organic wax using Nuba/Montan/Parafin keep your overal wax % at around 25-35% of the total product.. so your running 25-35% waxes to carrier and solvent. Use mainly nuba so of you 30% of wax for example you could go 70% nuba, 25 montan, 5% parrafin. NEver go much more than 2-3% parafin in the overall blend. try and reduce the oil amount down. Coconut oil is a good thing to use. Solvents. You need to use a combo of a light fast vaping solving with a heavier slower vaping solvent at around 50-50 light to heavy. Eventually you should look to remove organic oil from your waxes. Oil in the wax will make your wax not competative with modern waxes. by trying to make an oily organic show wax you are treading a path millions have trod before and that path was trod by people better than use decades ago. Try and find a way to make the wax formula not use oil. Oil stop a proper cure occuring you only get a partial cure. so you need a strong solvent mixed with a lighter one to do this. tiny amounts of synthetic carrier can be good or the wax will be too hard and unspreadable. make friends with other wax makers. dont try and focus on making SI02 wax or any clever additives focus on trying to make a wax which does not use oil, and dry cures within 5-10 minutes. if you can achieve this you can add the clever stuff later on.

Is it me or does John have a milk mustache? 😅

@StuntmanMike555

3 жыл бұрын

Confirmed,

Yes and finishes down well. Jon you look much younger. Just saying.

Is this an old video? Didn't you sell that car?

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

yes m8

@fordyford

3 жыл бұрын

@@ForensicDetailing good honest review as usual. It is strange when there is such a price hike on a product with no real obvious improvement over another in their lineup.

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

@@fordyford it is. And the old product H8 really is superb. theres a slight difference in the products thats hard to explain. But they are so very subtle. Its a case of do you put your faith in the brand because Ive heard its using a new abrasive tech that was a much more modern developement. Or do you just say Im happy with H8 and I can save money. Im not sure what the answer is but Im certainly not going to buy H9 until my H8 is used up. After this I will go with H9 prolly. Koch are a brand I rate highly, the chem regs in germany are really strict so they are environmentall safe, they have some real high value stuff as well, but they are geneuine market leaders when it comes to OEM abrasive development.

The predecessors are being phased out Iv hered on the Koch group

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

oh wow, thats great info thanks hakim.

H8.02 is better than H9.01 as far as cut and gloss for me is concerned.

@ForensicDetailing

3 жыл бұрын

H8 feels like its cutting more doesnt it. But Im not convinced it does. It does raise up the temps quicker, its a bit more oily than H8. but yer H8 results are so good its hard to ever stop using it.

It is very good but there are better ones.

@AmirAbdullah

3 жыл бұрын

For a heavy step ? Which one , I’ll try it.

@derrick8064

3 жыл бұрын

@@AmirAbdullah Maybe 3d aca 500/501

@AmirAbdullah

3 жыл бұрын

@@derrick8064 I’m not so sure , I’ll have to run a back to back I have some. They may cut better on some paints but not all. But I’m not gonna say either way till I try it myself I have some of each.

@jtm1979

3 жыл бұрын

Rupes new coarse cuts faster and finish better. Same goes with the TLC+. Carpro ultra cut must be better since its better than clear cut which cuts bit more than h9. Gyeon Compound+ is amazing but it dusts.

@AmirAbdullah

3 жыл бұрын

@@jtm1979 I’ll definitely try , I have most of these and as far as finishing better I’m not so sure at all. H9 finishes down really good. TLC+ I haven’t tried yet but I will , the new CarPro ultra cut is gonna be similar because clear coat cut was good .