"You can't build a bridge between your sheep and a wolf so the wolf can come in and eat your sheep." Amen, Alisa!

@richardrice1032

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Think about it. A young Shepherd boy named David had a LOT of practice with his Sling protecting his Flock of Sheep, before confronting Goliath. Google "what shepherds do". Their primary responsibility is the safety and welfare of the flock. Pastor is Latin for Shepherd. Think Psalm 23!

Coming from someone who was raised mormon let me make it clear that we must name the names of people who are not sound in their Biblical foundation. We have to! It’s too important!❤️

@BiblePsychology68

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this. I am aware of some false preachers and it is unclear what to do other than identify and avoid.

“You cannot be seeker friendly at the expense of the gospel!” Amen and amen. ❤️ Great convo ladies, thank you.

My mum - who is a Christian - called me hateful for calling out false teachers like the leaders of Bethel. I want the lord to correct me if I was hateful in any way, but I cannot be silent about false teachings and false teachers. If I do not have love, I have nothing. We are called to guard the Gospel.

Watering down the Truth is not keeping the unity in the end. Pastors have to dare to stand up

@richardrice1032

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Pastor is Latin for Shepherd. Shepherds are responsible for herding their Flocks to good forage, food. In this case Spiritual Nourishment. Logically Pastors need to know where the Spiritual Nourishment is so they can Feed their Flocks, in this case Hungry Believers.

The mega-church model is a hard problem to shake. Many pastors believe their numbers don't lie, "Look how many souls are being saved!" they say. At the expense of discipling those souls. Thirty years of my life has been spent in a mega-church and the last 6 months have been such a blessing to nourishing me in ways I've dreamed about for the last 7-10 years. Alisa, Krista, and Monique, you have each been a part of that process most recently and you need to know that what you are doing is making an impact for the Kingdom! Do not stop! Anytime you need a word of encouragement to counteract the world's hate, I've got your back! We are fighting a real enemy who wants us to quit and lay down our weapons - but our weapons are not of this world! Praise Jesus!

@donfout2830

2 жыл бұрын

"We are fighting a real enemy who wants us to quit and lay down our weapons - but our weapons are not of this world! Praise Jesus!" Said adversary ("...a real enemy...") also aims that we shall believe a lie, and love it and live it and wage warfare for it, as that would be enough to work against us and to work against the final population of The KINGDOM. So what lie? Any of them will work, perhaps some more vigorously than some others. Which lies need thrown out of our walk with Christ (deserving of all praise, honor and obedience) and how do we know what they are? Well, Emmanuel (God with us) said that he who keeps His commandments is he who loves Him. And He said that He and the FATHER are one, and that He kept His FATHERS' (HIS, by virtue of what was just related) commandments and that neither were they nor would they be canceled or changed. So, have the commandments of men come to be taught as doctrine? I'm not talking about ceremonial law. That is fulfilled by the life, death and resurrection of The CHRIST. I'm talking about the Ten Commandments. Gods' moral law, the list which so many of are used most by all in the world to keep a check on societies. (Yes, this one has been altered for so long now, and this other has been revised and another has been cast out for some imagined reason, that's sort of part of the point.) Have the commandments of men come to be taught as doctrine? It seems as if this is what has happened. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." and "Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness." Hosea 4:6 and Jeremiah 12:10 Care to know what verses this book I use references to? (Okay, I'll spill it.) Isaiah 5:13, with 2 for Jer 12:10; Isaiah 5:1 (and 2, because 1 ends with a colon instead of any full stop punctuation) & Jeremiah 6:3 What readings, what power! (I'm going to put this in the straight comments also, except for this line.)

Christ is divisive. not because He Himself is choosing to be divisive, instead of being unifying, but because His unity is divisive, if you are not unified to Him, you will be divided from Him.

@dearbrave4183

3 жыл бұрын

Or simply because the truth divides 🤷🏽‍♀️

@cryosteam3944

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Brave that’s...exactly what I said. Christ IS Truth. that part was inferred, considering this audience is Christian. so thanks...I guess?

@checkMe1011

3 жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏

@ctclardy

3 жыл бұрын

@@dearbrave4183 It divides the wheat from the chaff... a process that is necessary and critical to preserve the true biblical interpretation of the gospel.

@ctclardy

3 жыл бұрын

What the church is up against is entire generations of children that have been indoctrinated within our education system (K-PhD) who have been programmed into social justice, critical theory, cultural Marxism, postmodernism, and unbridled sexual immorality… they have been conditioned for acceptance of these philosophies and ideas so as to easily reject the tenets of Biblical truth and adopt the progressive line of relativism and division along racial, ethnic, gender, sexuality, and a variety of victimized categories… the oppressed and oppressor. These divisions are the result of deconstruction theory that take every idea of cultural, societal, historical, and legal thought and deconstruct every line of belief, reconsider it under the umbrella of progressive or postmodern ideology, and then reconstruct a new belief system of progressive thought beside and within the old one so as not to shock people into the realization of the truth of its contradictions to biblical truth… then get them to accept the new false teachings while believing they are still in compliance with biblical truth. Friends, it is our education system we send our kids to that prepares the fertile grounds for them to reject what they are taught at home and church and accept false teachings… and, if we are not aware and vigilant of what is happening we have no ability to halt and reverse this seeming irreversible redirection of our society towards secular hedonism and new age heresies that are all too seductive… just like that forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden that was so enticing to Eve, the new thoughts of these humanistic self-virtuous utopias will seduce the indoctrinated into the unintended consequences of their own self-inflicted harm and eventually total destruction.

"That's not divisive. That's preserving the Unity of the Gospel". AMEN!

"Christianity is exclusive." Truth!! "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will. " Romans 21:2

@vb4935

3 жыл бұрын

Small Correction - Romans 12:2 not 21:2

I’ve heard a few people in my church say that they feel that our church isn’t showing enough “love” as they see some of our attendees go to the more “loving,” liberal churches. However, being sympathetic or empathic doesn’t mean you have to be apathetic. Apathy cannot serve in truth.

In order to be united, in true Spiritual unity - not a false, make-me-feel-good unity, we must stand our ground against false teachings, false interpretations, and misapplication of His Word. If people think or want to call that divisive, that is their problem. The Father said, of the Son: "This is My Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. HEAR HIM'" He told us to Hear the Son - not fallible men. The Lord & Saviour's teachings & commands are very plain and clear to those who have ears to hear, eyes to see, an opened mind, a willing heart, and earnestly seek the guidance & leading of the Spirit. They do not need any explanation or interpretation by any fallible men.

"Truth has no color" powerful

Oh look..... There we are.

@monks6766

3 жыл бұрын

Monique! You are on fire 🔥 with the holy spirit!

@elaniVR

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Monique! It's Elani! We were in Small Group together in Shofar Stellenbosch. It's so wonderful to see you again, and the work that you are doing for the Lord!! Soli De Gloria!

@KarisParadiseVintage

3 жыл бұрын

Monique, you don't know how much I appreciate your voice of truth. Thank you, precious sister, for standing strong and teaching us with grace and strength.

@centerforbiblicalunity

3 жыл бұрын

@@elaniVR!!! Hou gaan dit! (I think I spelled all that right, it's been a few years!) So good to hear from you!

@elaniVR

3 жыл бұрын

@@centerforbiblicalunity it's been quite few years, yes!! I've been married for about two years now and have a little (and very busy) little boy! We joined a wonderful, small reformed congregation here along the wild West Coast. Thank you for your ministry and your courage and I pray the Lord will continue to hold you fast!! Much love from all of us!

We need people who really love Jesus and His word who won’t compromise on truth! This is Gods command

“There is no such thing at all as Christian love (unity) without Christian Theology” -S. Lewis Johnson- Sermon “The Last Hour and the Doctrinal Test” 1 John 2:18-21

The Word has proven that it can withstand all our struggles and hardest questions

It is encouraging seeing fellow Christian sisters speak about true unity: unity in the Gospel / Good News and upholding and believing the Word of God.

Wow!! I have to say this us so refreshing to hear. I've been trained in Biblical theology and to hear this makes my heart sing. It's about time. I am getting flack on FB over this. I've even been told I'm not tolerant. I am grateful for your podcast. I've been listening since January 2022. I am just so excited to see someone speaking up. And yes you are apologist. I was shocked about two months ago when I wrote my first apologetic on FB. It sadden me when people from my own group called me out and tried to get me to come back to a group I was discerning was wrong Theology and it was Word of Faith, Prosperity doctrine. Tell God what you want and he will give it to you. I sat and told these people they were wrong for telling people they don't have to work for what God gives us. There was no stewardship in what they were teaching. No, theological basis and they were quoting Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Haggin, and Joel Olstine. None of it was scriptural based. They cherry pick. Yes, they came to me through what they would say is scripturally based, but how they did was not Biblically according to scripture.

Thank you for tackling these difficult topics. I absolutely agree we need to protect the flock more than ever. It is a disservice to the church not discussing Biblical truth versus the world’s truth.

Thank you for your boldness and not backing away from proclaiming the truth.

You ladies are right on! I agree with everything that was said here.

@centerforbiblicalunity

3 жыл бұрын

Whaaaattt?? Did we just get love from the Khalid Snowden??? Thanks so much!! Blessings! -Monique

We can't be so afraid of not offending Man, that we allow ourselves to offend God! Thank you so much ladies for this ministry, such a good conversation, and something that I've struggled to get across to my other Christian friends, so many of them will not accept the fact, that so much of what have been digesting is the world's truth, and not biblical truth.

The unity factor is very important, but not at the expense of sound doctrine.

Thank you ladies. What an example you are to the world. Beautiful godly women who clearly articulate God's Word about unity with kindness, gentleness and compassion. You are an encouragement and blessing. Thank you!!

"Clarity about doctrine" (11:48) gives you a solid, hopeful, powerful place to stand! That is, in Christ.

Alisa Childers is the real deal!! love this womans courage and boldness to stand on God's word!!

It is wrong when you see lies and deceit to not call them out and expose them.

A couple things I would say to this as well is that unity is founded on the basis of what God says, not upon what we say. When people buck at disunity in this way it's because they generally do not honor God alone to have the authority. Meaning, God is the one who decides what is right and wrong, light and darkness-we are not the ones who are deciding these things. If we ARE deciding these things upon ourselves then that means we are deciding it upon our vanity, selfishness, pride, or something similar, and this would be wicked. It is this that people are accusing those who are walking in RIGHT disunity as doing. Ironically, that is exactly what so many of these things (critical race theory, progressive christianity) are basing THEIR divisions upon, not upon God's Word, but upon themselves. Deciding what is true out of themselves. THAT is what is wicked. To divide because of what is of God and what is not of God is righteous, to divide because of what is of our own selves, a selectivism is wicked. The difference is that one is OF God and one is OF self. It also means that people don't understand that God is FOR what is of Himself, and unity is ONLY founded in what is of Him. "I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours." (John 17:9) Unity is always based upon what is OF Christ. People ignore this and think themselves "loving" to reach outside of this. It is treason to Christ and it is also WEAKNESS in the person who does it. This is a very common error today, where we try to have some "unity" as a whole, when Christ Himself is against such things, showing that unity is only in that which is of Himself, and He rebukes all else: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters." (Matt 12:30) The real issue is that people are offended at Christ and HIS division. And they are offended at HIM having authority.

@BudandBloomWithBlossom

3 жыл бұрын

Mel AAAAAMEN!!!

@melblack7412

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-wq4xy5tf8x Hello! This is VERY true. I'm thinking on Romans 12:1-2 with what you're saying. It is only when we truly give ourselves to Christ in reading His Word and obeying Him that we are transformed. I think we often try to have "unity", even in Christ alone, but when we're not filled with Christ and brought into true submission to Him, then it's still fruitless. This is because as we can only have unity if it's in Christ alone, so can we also only have unity in Christ if each of us, individually, are wrestling fully into giving ourselves over to Christ (both in abiding and in obedience). Bless you, sister

I greatly appreciate the information you guys shared. It has helped me to be a bold ambassador of Jesus Christ and not worry about being cancelled for teaching scriptural truth 👍🏿

Thanks Ladies, we left our large church after serving there for about 7 years because they wanted to focus on BLM instead of the Gospel.

Amen! It's protecting the unity of the Church to rebuke unsound doctrine. I pray that leaders in the Body of Christ will courageously and faithfully guard against false teaching.

Thank you for talking about this! Pastors and church leaders need to be absolutely clear about what a Christian world view looks like. That is the path towards unity. I can see CRT creeping into the church I had been supporting under the guise of being empathetic. It broke my heart to step away.

@Based_Proletariat

2 жыл бұрын

You're a racist.

Praise the Lord for your faithfulness and obedience to His Word! Praying for you all.

So, so true about mega churches! They just can’t “afford” to have those discerning conversations.

Such a great and necessary talk. Thank you Monique for that great simple explanation of family and ground rules for family!

Thank you ladies for teaching clearly thru a muddy mess in our churches. God bless you!

Narrow is the way. Hallelujah. The truth is in our Lord's Word in context. Praying for you Ladies stay strong in Christ.

Hi Alisa, I have really appreciated your channel and especially your discussion of progressive Christianity. I mostly like that you are careful and not overly combative in the way you talk. I am a pastor in a church. In recent months, we have dealt with what I might call "incipient CRT" or "proto-CRT". Perhaps you have heard people talk about Paul and John's letters that deal with incipient or protognosticism. Paul and John don't call it out directly, but the beginnings of it are visible to the trained eye. In my church, I am the one seminary trained guy, the youngest pastor, and the one who preaches the most. I also went to a college that discussed Marxism, 3rd wave feminism, postmodernism, and critical theory quite a bit. I'm writing because I just want to share my approach for dealing with this kind of thing in a church. Basically, I do not "call out" CRT using any of my sermons or my writings for the church. But from time to time, I write things that specifically address some of the core issues at stake: 1) evangelism and discipleship are our priorities from Matthew 28, not becoming activists for social change, 2) our source for spiritual truth about ourselves and the world is the Bible, and nothing else, 3) the gospel is Jesus' death for sins, resurrection, and ascension to the Father until he returns to rule the world, not anything else that people might want to reshape it into, 4) Christians are called to respect authority, obey them, even when they are unjust, and not resist them, 5) like you and your guests said, true unity is coming together around truth, not just trying to get along and tolerate every opinion. Even doing these things, it has brought up very intense conversations and people have left the church. I never tried to make an argument against intersectionality, systemic racism, or dismantling structures. I simply exposited clear Bible truths that I knew for certain would bother someone who began to believe something beyond the Bible's teaching in these issues. I am really saddened by the fact that people have left; but I don't regret anything I have preached or written. On the other hand, I did have a meeting with the other elders to talk about the Marxist ideology in black lives matter and a few other related issues. We are all completely on the same page, praise the Lord! Time will tell if I am wrong for not calling out CRT more "openly". My goal is to follow the example of Paul and Peter in addressing the underlying truths that are incompatible with human philosophy, rather than trying to exposit and rebuke the entire flawed philosophy of CRT. I have no issues with those who do; but I am trying to be cautious not to move the focus away from God's word as I lead others in our church. Again, thanks for this great conversation. All the best to you, David

@BudandBloomWithBlossom

3 жыл бұрын

David The Bible tells us that there is a time and a place for everything. There is a time to resist, because we are to resist the devil. German Christians resisted the law of Nazism and sheltered Jews- which was against the law. Please dont tell people that they are to "obey authority even when they are unjust."

@davidrobinson5180

3 жыл бұрын

@@BudandBloomWithBlossom Thanks for your encouragement. I agree there are times when Christians need to resist. But I believe those times are only when government is asking us to disobey the Bible. In Paul's day, the Roman government did many things to him which were unjust, as did Pharoah with Joseph in Genesis, but their respect and compliance toward unjust rulers was still there.

@BudandBloomWithBlossom

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidrobinson5180 MLK was a pastor who was an activist for social change. There is a problem that you separate everyday life from the church, from Jesus. Im not saying that you do this: but the church seems to only "stand up" for the abolishment of abortion, not the abolishment of the oppression and murder of post-birth men, women, and children.

@davidrobinson5180

3 жыл бұрын

@@BudandBloomWithBlossom Do you think MLK is the standard for what a pastor must be like?

@BudandBloomWithBlossom

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidrobinson5180 You should be addressing what I said about pastors and churches shouting about abortion and silent about post born people being oppressed, abused, and brutalized.

Thanks again another brilliant discussion. "Unity only comes through maturity". Reminds me of Greg Koukl in his book tactics speaking about superficial unity. He highlighted that if we don't argue (in the sense of respectful dialogue) as Christian's the unity we espouse is "artificial". We have to be unified on truth.

This was absolutely brilliant. Thank you for sharing. Im in that place now. Where I've heard from the elders mouth non biblical statements and my brethren too. We spoke to an elder, who instead of exploring the concerns, speaks of judgment and wheat and tares. God bless you this is encouraging.

I enjoyed the conversation so much! It definitely brought some clarity for me into the topic! Alisa, I also wanted to tell you that I love how beautiful you look with our greys :)

How wonderful to hear this, I’m so proud of you sisters! Keep getting the word out. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Thank you for the drumming metaphor; that will be so helpful for me as my boyfriend and I sort through our very different denominational backgrounds and know what way to move forward.

Wow 15:00 megachurch model you just went there! 💥 💥 💥

@mkshffr4936

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on Alisa!

Loved this conversation 👏👏👏you three ladies are wise. Going to check out your podcast.

I've really learned and been relieved by this discussion. Truth isn't popular but sets free

If it is another Gospel ,we are told ,by Jesus,to mark and avoid such. My heart broke to see those who stood on solid Truth join ( for the sake of love/unity) with false teachers at The Return.

I’m thankful your channel came up in my recommendation. I really enjoy this real talk content.

Loved every minute of this. Thanks Sisters!!

I self-select out, against the doctrines of men, glad I did. I see this killing Christ all over again. It should be acknowledged that it is not just a group issue but an individual issue that they must let go of the hatred they were taught. Another excellent video.

What a wonderful video. Three beautiful women of God having a very important conversation. Thank you.

Fantasic episode on how to call out false teachings in a graceful and Christ loving way. Side note: Monique is phenominal! I am eager to go listen to more of her videos!

Thank you for this! Great video that more need to hear this message.

Public teachings have to be addressed publicly, because of the harm that is done to the people affected by them. To make a public profession to be a teacher, means that you have made yourself publicly accountable. It is not for the purpose of hurting the false teacher, but of upholding the truth against error that will be many times more destructive than the hurt the teacher has to endure by being called out about being wrong.

Keep up the great work all of you!

This is when Church Leadership can legitimately say “Not today satan...” 🤣🤣🤣

When Jesus prayed we would all be one, he wasn't necessarily praying for unity. He was praying for integrity. Integrity to the truth, the Gospel, is what unites diverse backgrounds and makes us like-minded.

That statement about "THE BRIDGE" !!!!!! Epic!!!!! Simple put in my humble opinion..... Light and Darkness will NEVER EVER UNITE!!!!!!! JESUS IS THE WAY.. THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT..... PERIOD!!!!!

This was great. I am ordering your book. Truth spoken. Not seeker friendly at all. Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom and He preached repentance.

Praise God for speaking truth

Thank you so much! I'm a new listener and so appreciate your stand and your guests stand for biblical truth.

Keep doing what you are doing! It’s appreciated!

Well said ladies !! I'm on board as you 3 are ! In total agreement 🙂🙏

Pastors should consider that as shepherds, their one primary job is to protect their sheep from wolves, and any other predator that could do harm. Problem is there are more hirelings than those who are truly called. For what it’s worth this is what I have seen throughout my 36 years in the body of Christ. It makes my heart truly heavy!

Love the shopping mall comment, i so agree. Love the music analogy. Always live a. Ew podcast to follow. :) thanks ladies for your ministry!

Love this. Really really love every bit of this talk.

I loved this!♥️ No solution can come at the expense of the word of God

Love this. Bless you sisters!

That was a really great discussion. It was interesting to see three ladies tackling the same problems of unity from their unique perspectives. I was especially interested with Monique's explanation that it has to be the Gospel first, the doctrine first, then you can come and have the hard discussions. She really impressed me. Well, you all did, but she just grabbed the bull by the horns so to speak and wrestled it to the ground. This is something all Christians need to learn to do, get the Gospel fixed right in their heart, then taking these hard questions and wrestling them to the ground. We don't need to fear, for "Greater is He who is in you than He who is in the world." (1 John 4:4c)

You ladies are tackling some very serious stuff. You go girls! God go with you. ❤

I thank you all for standing for the truth of Gods word. Me & my husband were in leadership at the church that we attended & the false prosperity gospel crept in and my husband was an elder and confronted the pastor & his wife and it turned out that WE were in the wrong and that we were being divisive . It hurt us both that they treated us that way. We ended up leaving there and the church there remains under that false doctrine.

@randsollie7921

3 жыл бұрын

What is the "false prosperity Gospel?"

@lauradavidson2955

3 жыл бұрын

Rand that is where so called preachers use the name of God for their own selfish gain . They have people to give them thousands of dollars in the name of Christ .

This is a great conversation. I love it.

Our unity is in the truth. Unity is not from unity.

Don't you think that part of the problem is that our church leadership isn't qualified for the job? Or they aren't rising to meet the qualifications? Pastors aren't studying as they should. Leaders don't even know what they really should be doing.

"Jezebel" in Revelation is an Old Testament reference, not a human individual. Excellent video though sisters. Thanks for contributing rightfully to this important discussion. I'm almost at the end of the video now. Those analogies about music and dance, and the appreciation of clarity; so very excellent sisters.

THANK YOU!

It seems that we want to build bridges to span the chasm between races, genders, sexuality, politics etc. We do this in an effort to create a way to unity. We have forgotten that JESUS is the WAY. He is the bridge. Our job is not to build bridges but to point people to the WAY. Only when we (sinners and the saved) recognize that this is THE ONLY WAY can we cross the chasm between sin and life. God has already provided the bridge!

“We are now having an inter-faith conversation” EXACTLY!

Yes, moral courage to stand with 2000 years of church history against new doctrines is definitely needed!

The best way to help people spot lies and false teachings is by teaching them and saturating them in the truth. Otherwise, they will never really know truth for themselves and will have to keep asking us "how about so and so, are there false teachers too". Also our own motive could be impure as we might just be pointing at people we don't like personally or people who we wrongly think are false teachers But if we teach people truth, they will be able to spot a lie from a mile away. That is a way of Jesus.

Truth is paramount.

That was excellent!

"To present the bait and hide the hook; to present the golden cup, and hide the poison; to present the sweet, the pleasure, and the profit that may flow in upon the soul by yielding to sin, and by hiding from the soul the wrath and misery that will certainly follow the committing of sin." - Thomas Brooks, Precious Remedies Against Satan's Devices

So good ladies ❤️

““They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.” ‭‭John‬ ‭17:16-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Yes, every other conversation proceeds FIRST from correct doctrine… yes!!

Well said ladies ❣❣

I had the misfortune of singing a song I knew with a band who did not know the song. The drummer set the tempo and rhythm and I sang words to a completely unrecognizable melody and tempo. ZERO unity! What a disaster! Such a great analogy Alisa! You know a knife cuts, it divides. God's Word is sharper than a two edged sword. It is meant to divide Truth from lies. When the true Gospel is taught, false teaching is cut out and unity occurs.

You keep up the great work my dear sisters!!! To those who call you “divisive” please lovingly remind them of scripture! We are to CONTEND FOR THE FAITH! It says: “Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ (Jude 1:3 - 1:4 NASB)”

Hello. A guy here🙂 I love your videos. This is very good conversation. The only thing I would like to ask is why do we tall about unity based on 2000 years of tradition? Why not to talk about unity based on the scriptures and unity in Holy Spirit?

I’ve had this problem.

I really appreciate your desire to stand for truth no matter the cost. I’m wondering how we determine “historical Christianity”. I like the idea of RE-discovering our roots doctrinally, but I also don’t believe that the most commonly held doctrines are always a clear indication of truth. Do you have any videos or podcasts you’d recommend that help clarify how historical doctrines are selected?

Very good!

We must always call out false preachers/prophets, and stand against them.

I one time tried creating unity with a wolf. I allowed him to destroy all but his own inner circle of our worship team, sending multiple people away from the ministry entirely, maybe for life, and leading others into a narcissistic prosperity Gospel. When I read through how Jesus addressed the Pharisees, the Apostles addressed Simon the sorcerer, or how the church fathers addressed the heiratics, I realize that it is sometimes necessary to oppose those who seek to exploit the church and lead them astray.

Preach it sister's!!!!

I am so thankful for each of you! My question is...each of these instances of calling out were done within the local church body, weren't they? Call out poor doctrine publicly... absolutely. Call out Christian leaders by name... Should we not go the Matthew 18 route on a personal, one to one level? I'm just tired of hearing Christians calling others false prophets/teachers simply because of certain doctrinal differences ie. Calvin v Armenian. Gifts v cessation. Women Church leader v. No way.

@jonathandavid9720

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, true, due process is a forgotten word with many heresy hunters, who slander people who disagree with their pet doctrine. Little evaluative discipline in many who "cry wolf" over every doctrinal disagreement. Yes, private correction is a wise biblical way to correct people in effective conversation, like Priscilla and Aquilla correcting Apollos error in Acts 17.

Alisa good morning . How can i deal with a oneness pentecostal friend on the topic of the Trinity ?

Paul said in Philippians it made him glad Jesus was being mentioned but at the same time, he was writing letters of correction which just goes to show the necessity of context and reading the WHOLE BIBLE. Scary for me was the Furtick cult getting crazy on me. I try to dialogue regarding some of the issues and they get crazy. Cult of personality crazy…..

I attend a church where the only unity is if you are a member. No CRT there, but since we are not members we cannot serve, have support of pastor or deacons etc. They have cut a hand off. We disagree with how membership is handled and how scripture is being used to justify membership and being taken out of context. Any ideas?