Is Free Will an Illusion?

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Philosophers have been making the controversial claim that free will is an illusion for hundreds of years, but is there proof? Are their conclusions well founded?
The idea that humans might not have complete autonomy over their lives brings into question what extent we do have control over. If free will is an illusion, and our control is actually limited, then things like criminal law and social status may be drawn into question.
To advance our collective understanding of free will, Dr. Uri Maoz is leading a collaborative research project that’s bringing together neuroscientists and philosophers from around the world. Here’s his take on the age-old debate.
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  • @freethink
    @freethink3 жыл бұрын

    Do you believe we have free will?

  • @joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490

    @joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490

    3 жыл бұрын

    But what is free will?

  • @TurdUnicorns

    @TurdUnicorns

    3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490

    @joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe in free will, whatever it turns out to be.

  • @HK-zc4xg

    @HK-zc4xg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Of course I do.

  • @silentfriend369

    @silentfriend369

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only the illusion.

  • @Blu1189
    @Blu11893 жыл бұрын

    Why did I read the title as 'Do you have free Wifi?" I was so confused 😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, it's clear you didn't choose to read it that way... (But did you have free wifi?)

  • @Stephonthefiresign
    @Stephonthefiresign3 жыл бұрын

    Once again I slipped in the dark depths of youtube

  • @MG-yf8jq

    @MG-yf8jq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its never an accident... g.co/kgs/aDTfB3

  • @KlarkMarquez

    @KlarkMarquez

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope, searched this for a topic in our philosophy class called pan determinism lol

  • @Hajdew

    @Hajdew

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MG-yf8jq kekw

  • @solomontruthlover5308

    @solomontruthlover5308

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MG-yf8jq kzread.info/dash/bejne/nH6izMSApLq0lZM.html

  • @StarryNightGazing
    @StarryNightGazing3 жыл бұрын

    0:00 Piazza Duomo, Milan. Immediately recognized the pattern!

  • @alionicle
    @alionicle3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot the other part of the Libet experiment, same as the first one, but in this case when they had the urge to press the button, the wouldn't, creating the will to not do. Also this was only seen in a muscular signal and we can't just resume the whole brain by that experiment, so further investigation is needed.

  • @slowanddeliberate6893
    @slowanddeliberate68933 жыл бұрын

    I believe there is a mixture of free will and uncontrollable reactions to our environment.

  • @Dana-ki6vs

    @Dana-ki6vs

    3 жыл бұрын

    some of the uncontrollable ones may be stimuli imbedded in us via biology

  • @kenpanderz672

    @kenpanderz672

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dana-ki6vs i dont really see a distinction between "free will" and "random chance", which is really just a lack of understanding of the factors involved in an event or a system. a puzzle might seem to be impossible, and thus the solution might seem effectively random (free will), until you understand the solution to the puzzle, at which point it becomes concrete (deterministic). for all intents and purposes, our minds are the same way: a puzzle that we simply dont know the solution to at any given moment, but if we did, we wouldnt have any room for the concept of free will anymore

  • @silentfriend369
    @silentfriend3693 жыл бұрын

    I love this. I tried to explain this idea to a friend once and he got really angry and called me stupid...

  • @chewbrocka6833

    @chewbrocka6833

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it's harder to accept no free will than people accepting the idea of no god. It strips psychological comforts. It's terror management theory. Go into your dreams and tell your dream people they are just a dream or will die, not real. It's all a mechanism to deny death.

  • @Willardandhiswiener
    @Willardandhiswiener3 жыл бұрын

    Will, Drive, Desire and Motivation (WDDM) share the same meaning. Choosing and deciding are determined by the strength and intensity of your WDDM to experience PLEASURE (the Purpose of Life); therefore, choosing and deciding are not 'freely willed': they are solely determined by - not free of, or free from - your WDDM to experience PLEASURE. It is not WDDM that is free or unfree; it is the PHYSICAL MOVEMENT caused and compelled by WDDM that is free or unfree. As puppets or marionettes are compelled (or 'willed') to MOVE by strings attached to their limbs, humans are INSTINCTUALLY compelled to MOVE by WDDM. We are 'Pleasure Puppets' in the Puppet Show of Life

  • @Cookie_DDD
    @Cookie_DDD3 жыл бұрын

    This subject is so interesting! Keep these videos coming

  • @chrisrus1965
    @chrisrus19653 жыл бұрын

    Why didn't you tell me earlier that I had no free will? If you had told me earlier, I would have done things differently.

  • @nimmernomma8830

    @nimmernomma8830

    3 жыл бұрын

    ha

  • @marvinedwards737
    @marvinedwards7373 жыл бұрын

    The Ulysses versus the Sirens example helps clarify both conscious control and a freely chosen will. He knows that the Siren's call will subject him to an irresistible impulse to follow them. So, he chooses to fill his crew's ears with wax to prevent them from hearing the Sirens, and has them bind him to the mast, so that his impulse to follow the call will be thwarted. Planning involves conscious deliberation and choosing. Even in Libet's experiment we have conscious deliberation and choosing even before the experiment begins. The subjects have chosen to participate of their own free will, free of coercion, and free of any other undue influence that could compromise their control. Having set their conscious intent upon participating, they remain consciously aware as the experimenter explains the test equipment to them, and what they are expected to do with it. Free will is amply demonstrated before Libet's experiments even begin. The more interesting question is how the subject interprets instructions like squeeze your fist at random intervals over the next two minutes. How does the subject handle the contradiction between a deliberate decision versus a "random" decision? So, the video is a simple example of what free will is about: a deliberate decision free of coercion and undue influence. There is no reason to suggest it should also be free of our unconscious brain activity. Both conscious and unconscious brain activity is involved in our choices.

  • @Goryalight
    @Goryalight3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it says “Do you have Free WiFi?”

  • @thelastdaybreathinginetern1385
    @thelastdaybreathinginetern13853 жыл бұрын

    Free will to me is part true for example something small as saying I want to go to the store. You have the free will to go to the store. We don't have full free will over ourselves. If we collapse or faint sometimes it feels like you have no control over your body, another example is fear.. fear makes us do things that we wouldn't usually do. So the fear we have in us takes over like if we seen a scary monster, or a shark irl.

  • @ramsesrameez5430
    @ramsesrameez54303 жыл бұрын

    Our free decides how much limitless we are what kind of decisions and actions we can do..

  • @adityakiranaggarwal1317
    @adityakiranaggarwal13172 жыл бұрын

    Nani Palkiwala , the famous lawyer wrote that “ I believe in the existence of freewill but that is within pre ordained parameters. We are like a dog on leash. We can move but tied to a pole. “ The reach can be limited only

  • @xezazase
    @xezazase3 жыл бұрын

    NEED to know who did that very first piece of music. Credits say courtesy of APM Music. Gah!

  • @rayna6635
    @rayna663528 күн бұрын

    The evidence of freewill Is Character If you have one. Being a character, actor is void of freewill expression or fact.

  • @NoOne-oe3co
    @NoOne-oe3co3 жыл бұрын

    Yes been saying it forever. The illusion of free will, more recently in past several years has shifted to the delusion of free will.

  • @Flusterette

    @Flusterette

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. In so many ways, but definitely what you're alluding to.

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. What would you say the difference is?

  • @Flusterette

    @Flusterette

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@freethink ty for asking; I hope this isn't too long. Our oppressed-by-influence-of-industry society, the globe over. This rant focuses on seeing the forest from the trees when it comes to what is SUPPOSED to be the reach & capacity of my autonomy & free will, vs reality. Free will is more than just what affects me immediately. *It's my free will that I care about ensuring the enhancement of others' free will in my country. & THAT free will cannot be exercised effectively.* I can pick a yogurt flavour. I have many brands to choose from. Different % milk fat. I can choose grass fed only. Or a vegan variation. Goats milk too. Sale items. When it expires. Natural ingredients or ones with gelatin & guar gum & additives added. Low sugar. High protein. I can eat it now. Or make freezepops. Use it in baking. Sure: lots of free choice. But that's myopic, & part of consumer culture where we sometimes have more options than needed to excite us to make up for life constricting & controlling us. In Canada we have a roughly 50% food waste problem. My free will is: giving up some yogurt varieties (a tiny example; I try to live humbly & not be wasteful in general) to hopefully reduce demand, to hopefully help reduce the harm all this "consumer free will" causes. I feel conflicted about most purchases. My options are the lesser of evils, not an ethical smorgasbord I'm happy to drop my $ on. Our Premier refused to commit to ending boil water advisories across Canada (particularly in Indigenous communities) by 2021. Which is the tip of the iceberg re: oppression to free will in marginalized communities. Thank goodness Canada is a lot better than in the States for many. Yet we have an imagination that we're a noble free country, but racism is also massively present on all fronts -what about that affront to free will. Our judicial system is hardly reformative, & some crimes just shouldn't be crimes, & that's if you're lucky & a cop doesn't shoot 1st & ask questions later (you may have not even committed a crime, let alone deserved a bullet). What about those lives' autonomy & free will? Think about all these issues as having a thread (or more, depending on how it interjects with your autonomy) like spider silk. How many spider silk threads stuck on you before are rather stuck? And it wasn't even your choice to enter that web. Obviously, that can be said of all culture/life. But it DOES oppress the psyche, with CONSEQUENCE, much of which we're oblivious to (& it DOES affect free will). We should all be aware that we'd probably be having existential crisis panic attacks on the regular if our brains didn't elect to dissociate us from thinking about the fact that: in a world where most of us just want to be good & ethical, why is it so impossible?! And then there's everything else... Our reliance on currency. Inaccessibility of acquiring education/training due to $. I mean, industry & capitalism is a huge component to restriction of free will. Essentially-2-party election systems & non-proportional representation causing strategic offensive voting instead of feeling like you really have a choice to "make your vote count." Heck, people getting into politics who want to change things CANNOT LIKELY EFFECTIVELY DO SO without really deferring to being part of the Big Two. A conglomerate of politicians working together to balance the beliefs, needs, desires & will of the countries we live in would be amazing, VS the current (extreme) polarization of many policies by partie, resulting in what was done for 4 years to be undone for another 4 & vice-versa without really considering the $ wasted & harm done in NOT trying to find the real solutions. Like a ping-pong match instead of a frickin' country changing & developing more organically. **********What gets impacted is our capacity to have our free will & autonomous actions in greater society matter as much as they were *intended* to (& could, & SHOULD).********** Thinking our media is honest warps our brains. We need better examples of objective, careful journalism. Many brains get warped for good, because critical thinking is harder to do when people are acting (& thus reacting) in traumatized ways... We can't handle truly FEELING; our brains force us to dissociate -- an excellent coping mechanism for survival. But many become reliant on survival rationale vs bringing a more relaxed broad-thinking idealistic approach to relating to each other. Polarized division of countries meant to be unified over things many of us truly feel rather centered on, but it's a war against right vs left 🙄 Many want to STOP this & improve it (it's all a product of the 2-party system), but good luck... The deck is stacked against your impact in trying to affect change in your own communities in large ways. So many try to find their niche to live with themselves & help others, but if we got to the root of the problem it'd be exponentially more advantageous. Addiction to screen time, addictions in general... The obvious psychological armouring & numbing out contributing to mental health & physical diseases. We aren't living like healthy human animals. We're pathologically harmed by our lifestyles & culture often to the point of no return. Lack of adequate mental health resources, & also a general lack of understanding of psychology in our culture from birth to death (many people never seek help because they have no idea what they're missing. A giant, cognitively dissonant blind spot). A world where to survive, we are ants for a hive, not free. We are mandated when to wake, sleep, work, relax, eat... for many it's a glad choice & a safe trade vs being a hermit in the woods, but for many others it's very trapping due to wage stagnation/no benefits/high rent prices. No human being truly desires to be mainly a cog. But it becomes a survival response for many because there are too many individual facets to keepthe reigns on -- work-life balance is difficult for many not for lack of trying. But the deck's stacked even in 1st world nations for many. Let alone in poorer nations & one's affected by terrorism & war. And when refugees try to leave for a fair chance to experience living freely -- we culturally demonize them for not staying home to fix their own country instead of seeing they barely made it out alive, & never unscathed be it mentally or physically. Religious views being brought into politics oppresses everyone who doesn't conform, hell as a woman in general there's barriers to autonomy still... A man can get a vasectomy no questions asked, anytime... A woman, if married, must gain approval from husband AND be well past her birthing prime EVEN in extreme regular pain & distress. Think about how that pain affects many things -- especially when drugs aren't the answer, & cause side effects/dependency/can't drive when on some, can't do physical activities with ease like others so many find it controls their life & days. Child & Social Service systems do some good, but a lot of harm. A lot of orphaned or taken-from-home Indigenous children in Canada wind up abused/killed by that system. Did those lives have free will? Did they even have a chance? Not to mention, it's impossible to live ethically. Big Corporations do so many things we don't agree with, from deforestation, pollution, overuse of plastics, animal abuse, slave/poorly paid labour, unsafe worker conditions, water tainting, it goes on & on. And every purchase supports it. It's hard to find good alternatives. And it's so impossible to demand better. Look at Nestlé - how many petitions have done diddly squat? Because they don't think communities have a right to access to their own communities supply of clean freshwater. They'd sooner over-draw & not care about the harm to the local environments, toll of all the plastics, & that they rob a community to charge them exorbitant amounts for their own water back. Consider those who are purely artistic - try making a comfortable, rewarding living as an artist. For many, their dreams become just a hobby. Policing-to-death. I live in 🇨🇦, in Ontario. Consider that in my hometown of Toronto, in 2018 ~10% of the whole city budget went to policing this year (over $1B). Public health got 2%, children's services 5%, Fire Dept got 4.5% whereas Paramedics got 2% As a taxpayer, WANTING your tax $ to go to providing a better society, a better infrastructure for happier more enriched living, & we can't. And there's almost no place to go, without great difficulty, where it's not the case. Let alone all the other spiderwebs. We're indoctrinated on how to think. We have these false dichotomous reasonings that permeate culture making us oblivious to really looking at the issue as a whole from multiple perspectives. We don't choose to lose our empathy, it is psychologically robbed of many of us (in at least some capacity) because of how overwhelmingly oppressive our society is, that to survive & function we give up hope & shrug things off we become desensitized to & that becomes our MO: just get by. I want to be a hermit in the woods sometimes. B/c I dislike so much of the obstacles driving me nuts about the world. I have this great brain, but I'm healing from CPTSD & it's become useless to me. Why: issues with executive function. I should be doing a lot right now. I have been willing myself to for days. But I'm mentally ill. I had a few good days but now I'm low-functioning again. Not my choice to be abused & neglected in my life from infancy. I've been in on disability about a year now, 3 yrs into my nearly 6-figure career as a Paramedic b/c my brain is so broken. I'm 34. My plan was to settle down, start a family, enjoy life. I cannot. I'm working on it. I didn't willingly choose this. It's left me unable to live out the things I do want to do on most days. Sorry for the rant. 💕🇨🇦 Free will is an illusion.

  • @Mary-xt5pe

    @Mary-xt5pe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes especially if you’re married 😂😂

  • @Willardandhiswiener

    @Willardandhiswiener

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@freethink (Simple disproof of 'free will'): Will, Drive, Desire and Motivation (WDDM) share the same meaning. Choosing and deciding are determined by the strength and intensity of your WDDM to experience PLEASURE; therefore, choosing and deciding are not free: they are solely determined by - not free of, or free from - your WDDM to experience PLEASURE. It is not WDDM that is free or unfree; it is the PHYSICAL MOVEMENT caused and compelled by WDDM that is either free or unfree. As puppets or marionettes are compelled (or 'willed') to MOVE by strings attached to their limbs, humans are INSTINCTUALLY compelled to MOVE by WDDM. You are a puppet in the Puppet Show of Life; an actor in the DVD Movie of Life

  • @kevinsaji6402
    @kevinsaji64023 жыл бұрын

    All there intros are great

  • @dianeschmidt17
    @dianeschmidt172 жыл бұрын

    This narrator’s voice always reminds me of the narrator for How It’s Made

  • @krm1248
    @krm12486 ай бұрын

    If our unconscious is still part of us, then isn’t it still “us” that makes the decision? Isn’t our unconscious something that has been programmed through our trial and error and does tries to do what is best for us by navigating is safely through life? MY unconscious is part of “I”, therefore “I” made the decision. Obviously it pulls from my past experiences to guide me to what would be most beneficial for ME. My subconscious has stored my wants, needs and desires. If we had to consciously think about every breath, heart beat, step we took, we’d be pretty busy and crazy. I definitely think that we are intelligently created and created well. I see Libeta experiment was in a very mundane task. Everything takes a few ms to travel. By the time he asks the question, you hear it and your unconscious picks it up before the few ms brings it to your awareness. Your brain then takes care of this minute task without bothering your conscious awareness. Big deal. Ask a complicated choice, and I’m sure the results show drastically more brain activity. The brain is probable the most complicated system in the universe, and we’ve only scratched the tip of the iceberg. We should not be so quick to dismiss its complexity.

  • @brandonloiacono2015
    @brandonloiacono20153 жыл бұрын

    Maybe that signal to move before we move is us deciding to move

  • @LateButGreat

    @LateButGreat

    2 жыл бұрын

    See "readiness potential"

  • @husnainanwaar1992
    @husnainanwaar19923 жыл бұрын

    the universe does what it does

  • @lancelotkillz
    @lancelotkillz3 жыл бұрын

    Could a serial killer argue that it isn't his fault that he kills? That although he understands the severity of killing a persons something in their brain allows them or makes them doit . Idk

  • @RobChapman-Smith

    @RobChapman-Smith

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hypothetically, could they argue it, sure. Is it an effective argument that will keep them out of prison or a mental institution? Probably not. Take the argument to the full extreme and assume that humans 100% don’t have free will. Lack of free will doesn’t mean humans who are more likely to harm others, like serial killers, escape responsibility for their propensity to harm people. In fact, it gives non-serial killers a better argument for locking those folks up and throwing away the key. In a world where there is no free will, it’s not the serial killer’s “fault” that their biology makes them murderous. It’s not “fair” to them either. But they still killed people, serially. Something society doesn’t want to have happen. And since the serial killer has “no free will” and cannot decide to dampen that tendency, the government would have an obligation to lock that person up; and probably for life. Especially since reforming the serial killer’s innate propensity for murder seems really unlikely. Now let’s bring the argument back to from the extremes and closer to reality; a world with some unspecified degree free will. In a world with some degree of free will, the serial killer could still argue that their brain made them do it, but they would have to prove it. Is it a Charles Whitman-like situation where a tumor near the amygdala (or some other region of the brain) may have caused an issue with how the brain processes information? If not, and the killer’s brain just process information like that normally, what recourse does society have at their disposal to definitively change the killer’s brain? Not much, we don’t know enough about the brain yet to do that. So even in this less extreme scenario, you lock up the serial killer and likely throw away the key. And probably scan their brains so we can understand what makes people commit serial murders.

  • @chewbrocka6833

    @chewbrocka6833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RobChapman-Smith one of our founding fathers knew this and had a quote like "men are not actually responsible for their actions, but we must still lock up criminals to stop the spread of Chaos in society"

  • @solomontruthlover5308

    @solomontruthlover5308

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @solomontruthlover5308

    @solomontruthlover5308

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @enquiryplay
    @enquiryplay3 жыл бұрын

    The very idea that the "subconscious" is in conflict with "free will" is flawed. What use are willful actions if they aren't deterministic? Our actions would be useless, and per definition random, if they were somehow independent of circumstances outside of our control.

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting point. It seems like what the video is illustrating is that while people perceive the decision chain as External event > Conscious evaluation > Decision > Action, the chain can also be External event > Subconscious decision > Action > Justification. But maybe the difference between subconscious and conscious decisions is immaterial if conscious decisions are always shaped by external events? Or is that just another way of saying there is no free will?

  • @Dana-ki6vs
    @Dana-ki6vs3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if you could use this theology with seismology

  • @angeldiaz7801

    @angeldiaz7801

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well if “free will” were logical, it would assert that seismology can be independently random with no real way of determining when to detect such seismic activity. However, the deterministic (opposite) viewpoint would assert under that it would be possible to detect seismic activity, the only constraint would be the ability to determine what are the factors that play into it and how can we empirically measure that activity to predict seismic outcomes. Under what we know as science, the logistics behind the scientific method would support the deterministic viewpoint since technically there are factors that contribute to the events by which seismic activity is produced. Like I said, we need to know what those factors are and how to measure it.

  • @Dana-ki6vs

    @Dana-ki6vs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@angeldiaz7801 wow this was an amazing response. I love it. The most important part is knowing and measuring those factors.

  • @solomontruthlover5308

    @solomontruthlover5308

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nH6izMSApLq0lZM.html

  • @amargamentedoce
    @amargamentedoce3 жыл бұрын

    Isn t possíble that the delayed is because the decision is made on the Brain but actually takes a delay to, trought the nervous system, takes the information to mouth, body, etc?

  • @Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum
    @Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum3 жыл бұрын

    We don't have free will. We have a will, but it's not completely "free". We are constrained by reality, in all its complexity. We have a limited range of freedom within those constraints. The confusion many have is based on a misunderstanding of how the brain operates. That which is consciously learned by day is embedded into the subconscious at night, during sleep. As a result, the subconscious is slowly molded by consciousness. Objections to "free will" that point to the extent our subconscious seems to have control over our actions always seem to leave out this reality.

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting points!

  • @redmen2822

    @redmen2822

    3 жыл бұрын

    Our will isn't free whatsoever. Our will is entirely controlled by our wants, and you cannot choose your wants, nor can you change them.

  • @Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum

    @Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@redmen2822 Our wants are a part of our human nature, which is one of reality's constraints on our will. They are not the only constraint.

  • @redmen2822

    @redmen2822

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum our wants already determine every single decision we ever make. There need not be any other constraints to disprove free will

  • @redmen2822

    @redmen2822

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Confusione_Infinito_Absurdum but if you are saying the 'laws of the universe' (should they indeed exist) also constrict our free will, then I understand your point

  • @Hallands.
    @Hallands.3 жыл бұрын

    Why do you talk about people as "they" instead of "we"? I have more questions for you, but there's no rush...

  • @sandrojimena9237
    @sandrojimena9237 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I know. that is just an illusion, we're manipulated bay our environment and circumtances.

  • @angeldiaz7801
    @angeldiaz78013 жыл бұрын

    That last statement of desired choice and the ability to make such a decision could be proven false. A desire stems from preference, a preference stems from the influence of external and internal factors that constitute a likelihood or a mathematical probability that each factor may influence a preferential affinity that affects the likelihood of making a decision. Based on those constraints, there is a mathematical probability that affects the unconscious cognitive processes that in turn affect conscious decision making abilities. So his ability to make that desired choice really wasn’t a “choice” but a calculated, subconscious process, in which an infinite amount of factors affect the possibilities of choice. This may support a deterministic viewpoint, but taking account of logistics, is the concept of free will and determinism an illusion?

  • @ashleyblanchard6713
    @ashleyblanchard67133 жыл бұрын

    What? dialectic/algorithms to actions? haha, Priming?

  • @armandoleyvas3547
    @armandoleyvas35473 жыл бұрын

    Alan watts

  • @sh0shin
    @sh0shin3 жыл бұрын

    re-uploaded???

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, we originally uploaded an earlier edit - apologies!

  • @caricue
    @caricue3 жыл бұрын

    The idea that your unconscious mind is somehow different than your conscious mind is only a matter of perspective. From the inside, you feel yourself able to control you actions, mostly, while you don't feel in control of things that just pop into your mind or happen without thinking. From the outside, you are a complete unit, an organism that displays behaviors and there's no distinction between conscious and unconscious. I think the second one is more useful, and unless a person is pathologically narcissistic, it isn't too hard to adopt.

  • @LateButGreat

    @LateButGreat

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is the difference between free will in the practical sense, at the self level, and the ultimate sense, at the physical and biological level. The latter is not possible and the former is determined by the latter level.

  • @caricue

    @caricue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LateButGreat One thing that always gets in the way of me accepting the idea that the physical interactions of the constituent particles determines the higher level output is that virtually all human choices and decisions are informed by information and knowledge. These things only exist at the highest levels of cognition, so how do mindless particles make informed decisions?

  • @LateButGreat

    @LateButGreat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caricue @Steve C That's a good question and I can say modern science is in progress to decribe this. Now I would like to read from you what is the progress in describing the other way? How are these high level output we call councious and cognition not outputs at all? And why should counciouness as property of atoms be required to make it happen in the right combination in a much more complex thing as an organism? That's a property wich arises from the interaction (justs as eyes and legs doesn't exists in atoms) and evolutionary process made it common at the complex life level that makes this questions be made.

  • @caricue

    @caricue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LateButGreat That was a rhetorical question my friend. It's nonsensical to say that particle interactions control your mind. This doesn't mean that there is some sort of mystical freedom from all prior causes, but just that the universe does not work from the bottom up in terms of decision and control. In terms of why consciousness evolved, if you have ever tried to interact with a bot you know that a little consciousness would definitely make them a lot more sensible. Cleverbot is free online and is dumb as a box of rocks.

  • @Hallands.
    @Hallands.3 жыл бұрын

    Please answer the question "what is free will?" In the video you avoid giving anything resembling a definition. Perhaps you're demonstrating one example on how to exercise free will - but you could also be unable to define free will because you're driven by your subconscious to avoid disclosing the limitations of your pet philosophy. Now listen: If you chose to answer this comment without defining free will, you have, willy-nilly, confirmed my hypothesis. Did you get that?

  • @cusswordsayer3558

    @cusswordsayer3558

    3 жыл бұрын

    I tried typing my own little definition but it just kinda got lost in translation. Maybe you’re on to something.

  • @Hallands.

    @Hallands.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cusswordsayer3558 Perhaps you can freely decide to stop using cuss words and thereby learn what energy is behind the urge?

  • @Hallands.

    @Hallands.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Syed Rafsan Imam No! Your mind minding its business of processing sensory inputs while you’re aware of witnessing the result (not the processing) is means you’re fully conscious for however brief a moment. The reaction to the processed input, if such is manifested, is not free will, since re-action is a learned or built in action. None of this entails »free *_will«._* But were you to expand your awareness beyond the initial conscious perception and witness what urges might prompt you to re-act, you might be said to teether on the verge of an act of free will imo…

  • @Hallands.

    @Hallands.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Syed Rafsan Imam Yes, the consciousness doesn’t react. No, I do not identify with the mind. So what is »free will«?

  • @Hallands.

    @Hallands.

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Syed Rafsan Imam No, and that was not my initial point. I asked the uploader to preface his video with some kind of definition of »free will«; you chose to attempt an answer for reasons of your own. We can debate the concept, but that wasn’t my purpose and I doubt there’s anything to learn from you, although you seem to think so, being all condescending and didactic to someone you don’t know.

  • @Agent47316
    @Agent473165 күн бұрын

    No i don't have free will considering i was born against my will

  • @_shadow_1
    @_shadow_13 жыл бұрын

    We are creatures of habit, not of free will. Edit: I chose not to watch the video because why not.

  • @tobiasfischer7921

    @tobiasfischer7921

    3 жыл бұрын

    As of today, free will is virtually impossible to achieve. Most probably, never even existed

  • @thetruthofmadness7911

    @thetruthofmadness7911

    3 жыл бұрын

    Acting off our instincts

  • @mactastic144
    @mactastic1443 жыл бұрын

    Yes, because we are products of environment and genetics. If time was reset and everyone’s memories from that time period were erased, they’d repeat the same actions they’ve previously done.

  • @chrisbishop6928
    @chrisbishop69283 жыл бұрын

    What did my sub conscious say 200ms before I decided to typed this?

  • @angeldiaz7801

    @angeldiaz7801

    3 жыл бұрын

    Possible interplay between your temporal lobe and frontal lobe. The neuronal activity would theoretically transfer from one cortical structure to another. Primarily the Prefrontal Cortex (pfc), specifically the dorsal-lateral PFC and ventral medial PFC, would be used in the decision making process to choose to type out the statement you produced. Also lots of activity in your parietal lobe as well as some parts control motor movement (think of how you move your fingers). All of that information would shot down to the thalamus were it relay that information and shot it down to your CNS and commanded your muscles to contract and produce the words that were typed and sent at that very moment. Yes, it’s 2:06 am in the morning. No I don’t feel like I’ve wasted my time.

  • @solomontruthlover5308

    @solomontruthlover5308

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nH6izMSApLq0lZM.html

  • @rythecatlover_yt
    @rythecatlover_yt3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you liked it!

  • @dsoular
    @dsoular3 ай бұрын

    No. The universe is one space and one mind.

  • @virgilioblanco5374
    @virgilioblanco53743 жыл бұрын

    The most pointless discussion yet!!! The basis of "free will" is "individualism", that is gauged and "instructed" by ones "inner self", the belief or not of which has no effect on it's influence. When "free will" is based on ego, it is counterproductive, ones "instincts" obeys a higher station. The intentions of today's academic instruction is aimed at perpetuating the confusions. The "ocult" is only the opposite of an "established" lies-based curriculum, to fulfill a millennials old agenda, and the guessing game will go nonstop.

  • @bereket-xx4dn

    @bereket-xx4dn

    10 ай бұрын

    I agree with you

  • @rayna6635
    @rayna663528 күн бұрын

    Hmmm Only an fully abled body would not understand the concentration of walking (adult, having long forgotten infancy trials to walk) but anyone who's broken a leg, or had one amputated would know well the efforts. Intelligence is the intellect, the brain. Consciousness is physical. Duality. The temple of God is within the body not the head. Amateurs!

  • @jackdolah2031
    @jackdolah20313 жыл бұрын

    Just watch true detective season 1

  • @freethink

    @freethink

    3 жыл бұрын

    "I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight - brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal." - Detective Rust Cohle

  • @jackdolah2031

    @jackdolah2031

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@freethink ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHT! GREATEST SHOW EVER MADE

  • @Wartooth6
    @Wartooth62 жыл бұрын

    just look at john MacAfee's life, free will for sure exists

  • @TheHated0ne
    @TheHated0ne3 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe I was the first like and comment. Great video once again freethink.

  • @joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490

    @joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490

    3 жыл бұрын

    You flex whenever you want.

  • @TheHated0ne

    @TheHated0ne

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuaadamstithakayoutubel2490 yeah thanks for your approval mate

  • @x_gosie

    @x_gosie

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think I was, the first.

  • @TheHated0ne

    @TheHated0ne

    3 жыл бұрын

    You don't even have a comment?

  • @x_gosie

    @x_gosie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHated0ne How would you suppose to know, I deleted it. To gave you the opportunity to comment this.

  • @cusswordsayer3558
    @cusswordsayer35583 жыл бұрын

    You can have any color you like, so long as it’s black

  • @governm3nt697
    @governm3nt6973 жыл бұрын

    I did not write this comment. A large structure of cells did.

  • @Willardandhiswiener
    @Willardandhiswiener3 жыл бұрын

    (Simple disproof of 'free will'): Will, Drive, Desire and Motivation (WDDM) share the same meaning. Choosing and deciding are determined by the strength and intensity of your WDDM to experience PLEASURE; therefore, choosing and deciding are not free: they are solely determined by - not free of, or free from - your WDDM to experience PLEASURE. It is not WDDM that is free or unfree; it is the PHYSICAL MOVEMENT caused and compelled by WDDM that is either free or unfree. As puppets or marionettes are compelled (or 'willed') to MOVE by strings attached to their limbs, humans are INSTINCTUALLY compelled to MOVE by WDDM. You are a puppet in the Puppet Show of Life; an actor in the DVD Movie of Life

  • @benzgaudiano6799
    @benzgaudiano67993 жыл бұрын

    Free will is ONLY the will of the FREE. Are you really free?

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