As an African woman I find this so embarrassing. It’s like they found the least educated Nigerians and put them on a stool and just told them to pull out of their empty heads. Imagine suggesting white people taught African women progress. I’m honestly appalled at the level of illiteracy on the subject. Women were movers and shakers in Africa and in fact colonialism set us back.

@girlbye4522

3 ай бұрын

Fr

@Naniso

3 ай бұрын

It’s sad how these people might not even know the definition of feminism

@israelgideon9066

3 ай бұрын

Dey whine yourself. What we call pace setting in this part of the world before the Europeans came to our shores are just a bunch of arbitrary and useless things. If our women are half of what people like you claim they were back in the day, we won't have so much depravity and societal failure as we do today. You guys fail to understand that over 90% of African Men were raised over 95% by African women. therefore whatever ills we experience in society today is as a result of the failure of women in raising adequate men.

@hehe8012

3 ай бұрын

If feminism was such a foreign concept to Africa, how did people like Queen Nzinga of the Congo come to be ? Or tribes of women warriors ? Both sides were nonsensical, honestly.

@marvellousachafu7827

3 ай бұрын

I mean the Eliza guy has to be the biggest mumu I have ever heard this year. Saying a white man are more superior to us because of their inventions. Internalized racism at its finest. Quite a shame

The amount of misinformation in this video is staggering

@epicgamer-cu7lp

3 ай бұрын

It’s is madness, 😢

@thedonutlady

3 ай бұрын

I can’t get over the girl in a short dress blonde hair and piercings talking

@koladeojo7060

3 ай бұрын

When most of the information about feminism comes straight from the pulpit

@olugboyeopeyemi2428

3 ай бұрын

​@@thedonutlady she's a walking embarrassment. No ounce of self worth.

@theCreativeSav

3 ай бұрын

Bruh. It’s insane. On both side.

“Women cannot handle power they tend to abuse it”…. Yet look at all patriarchal governments, especially Nigeria’s☠️☠️😭

@scpeddd

3 ай бұрын

Knowing that men are the ones who perpetuate abuse in households and politics aswell as being the leading starters of war. Men are literally know to abuse the power that they have given themselves. This is a tactic meant to benefit men by trying to make woman believe that they are not capable of making sound decisions. So it’s weird when women are on the opposing side because these people are fighting to make the world less comfortable and convenient for you BASED on your gender.

2 ай бұрын

Women can handle power. Nigeria like many African countries are not led by men. Transsexuals have more testerone than them.

@immaculatepeter5529

2 ай бұрын

Ikr all the corruption and they think women would be an issue.

@iduzeth5606

2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t mean it would have been any better in matriarchal rule

@immaculatepeter5529

2 ай бұрын

@@iduzeth5606 it might not be but it’s ridiculous to claim that the reason women cannot lead is about them not being able to handle power or abuse it when our reality with men ruling is abuse, corruption etc

Feminism is not a bad thing men are just scared women will leave them.

@Sophine

3 ай бұрын

Correct. The minute a man feels like he can't force a woman to be with him, his whole existence is challenged. Not all men but most want to be mediocre as possible and still have a woman to accept their standards. I heard a saying before that some don't want equality because they think the same barbaric practices they put into the world will be done to them.

@isaacisgud

3 ай бұрын

Women are leaving

@knix9014

3 ай бұрын

like we care

@sharonanthonique1255

3 ай бұрын

Feminism is the worst thing

@olugboyeopeyemi2428

3 ай бұрын

​@@knix9014if you're gay just say that. And WOMEN are the inspiration and role models for the Gays anyway ☺️🤷🏽‍♀️

Thinking a man is above a woman is so wilddd to me. In 2024 too?

@msaniitz5588

3 ай бұрын

The culprit is that book of theirs that came with the colonizers.

@girlbye4522

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to Africa my brother

@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv

3 ай бұрын

It’s wild to me thinking they are the same when the results show men surpassing women in almost every facet of life. There is a reason why they have separate competitions for men and women. Women can’t compete with men. Blame biology.

@nubian77

3 ай бұрын

It's also the fact that no one on this planet would even exist, if not for their mother's nutrients from the womb and the inevitable trauma of childbirth. They literally wouldn't exist, and yet they still try to make you believe that women are somehow beneath them.

@Slowed2perfection44

3 ай бұрын

they i think you should not believe that manual that came with the machines from your colonizers@@msaniitz5588

Saying things like "the man is the head, the woman is the neck" is the ultimate form of gaslighting. It's such an arbitrary example. Imagine justifying slavery by saying something similar. Ultimately, it's a matter of depriving women of that choice. And seeing relationships as something with "authority" is not a good sign.

@sophiatsaka5596

3 ай бұрын

It's like the feudal lords, who became land owners solely because of their bloodlines.

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@shukiivibez

3 ай бұрын

Absolute bs!! What in the world works as a unit without the acknowledgment of the presence of a leader in it? Be it in the office, place of worship, school, team work in sports and what have you there is always someone at the fore front and if this is a known fact already who should do it?? A man or a woman??

@benapeh854

3 ай бұрын

@@shukiivibez Relationships aren't organised institutions. There is no innate "hierarchy" present. And even if that were the case, why indeed should it be the man and not the woman?

@boochi7087

3 ай бұрын

​@@shukiivibezI see you're one of those men who can't control their emotions. The point of feminism is to say that women can be heads too. The man isn't always and shouldn't always be the head by default. When a male leader gets upset, he destroys his enemies and everything associated with them. Somehow, you guys have convinced the world that a woman being "emotional" is a weakness when it's quite opposite - it's what gives us the resilience to deal with the mess most men create in the world.

"His life is at risk in the living room where's watching football, while the woman is in the kitchen where is safe" is a crazy statement. I really need these men to touch grass, because how is the living room less safe than the kitchen.

@coumbiistaa

3 ай бұрын

Ahahahaha exactly!!! When I heard that I was like huhh?? Come again???

@adesolaadedeji6187

2 ай бұрын

That man in general was just talking too much like stfu

@ruthiyeke6436

2 ай бұрын

His example was damn lame😂😂

@increaseanim3463

2 ай бұрын

Yes it is!!!

@faith500ful

2 ай бұрын

Honestly! I cleaned my ears when I heard that and I was wondering why no one interrupted him. He was just saying rubbish! Made 0 sense whatsoever

Girl my African great grandmother was a feminist, she believed women needed to be treated the same as men as fought for that where she lived.

It's also very interesting how the conversation keeps going back to wives being in the kitchen cooking and cleaning - feminism is a much wider discussion than cooking and cleaning. Women want the authority to make decisions for their life - if a women wants to be a stay at home wife, thats great and if she doesn't, she should also be able to make that decision too.

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

👏🏾

@simplye.l.

2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!!

@akinolaomotola7019

2 ай бұрын

thank you, they just put uneducated people on the sit, its more than cooking and cleaning. education nko, right to choices nko

I feel for the auntie that’s had a bad experience in her marriage and everyone just disregarding her point of view and experience; I pray God allows her to heal from it 🙏🏾

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

🙏🏽❤️

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

The way that pick me Christian woman spoke to her was appalling. I’m a Christian myself and it frustrated me seeing how the anti feminists treated her

@NanaLia_18

2 ай бұрын

❤❤

@Aquigirlie

Ай бұрын

@@jointhecruiseabeg shut up! U are bringing heavily uneduacte people who are stuck with old century mentality. U say this is entertainment purposes or just opinion. This is just pure foolishness any stupidity. Wake up and realize more women are getting into uni than men.

@Aquigirlie

Ай бұрын

@@jointhecruisethis so why no one can be better than jubilee. Stop trying to be them cuz y'all lack intelligence. There a difference with opinion and pure insult. This is the 21st century. Think more wisely before posting these things. This video needs to be taken down. This is why africa will be considered irrelevant in the western world. Y'all are Centuries behind Wake up.

The anti-feminist side is not very enlightened on a lot of things. Two out of four were just misogynists. If you have to use "but the Bible says..." in a debate about human rights, despite knowing the Bible doesn't dictate human rights, you've already lost the argument. It's very clear they didn't watch Barbie, because if they did, they'd know the goal of Barbie was the exact opposite of what they thought it was. The point of Barbie land being matriarchal is to draw parallels between the real world to show how it is to be subjugated because of your gender. At the end, they realized the error of their ways and decided everyone, men and women, has a say. So, Barbie land didn't remain matriarchal. Also, the goal of feminism is to dismantle the patriarchy, and once you take out the patriarchy, it doesn't leave a matriarchy but instead an egalitarian society. Also, when feminists proclaim "men and women are equal," they're arguing that men and women are deserving of equal rights in respect and dignity, not that they're the same. That man was also being very dishonest when he said he's okay with being looked down upon by white men just to stand by his point. He knows well the reason why Africans weren't inventing much was because there were barriers and they weren't given opportunities, just like women weren't. Relationships should not be hierarchical; it poses a power imbalance. You can be equals in a relationship; you're both committing to each other. The antifeminists countered their own point occasionally. Anyone, feminist or not, can tell society privileges men over women; that's basic knowledge. Antifeminists whole argument is all about men being stronger than women, despite pro feminists never claiming otherwise because we know, generally men are stronger than women, and this doesn't mean any given man would automatically be stronger than a woman. The last thing, men are not transitioning into women to dominate women's sports; that's simply not happening. Only one trans woman has ever won a national title. No one is upending their life to transition just to dominate sports. I really wished they let the feminists speak more, and they had better counterarguments for the misogynists they were up against.

@samarahthorpe1184

3 ай бұрын

😊😊😊 thank the heavens for this comment 😢

@Gundice_the_cryomancer

3 ай бұрын

Dismantle patriarchy or dismantle men?

@HealRelaxBreakfree

2 ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏

@KEEPINGITREALAi

2 ай бұрын

You're the first sensible comment I've read. Wow

@oreoluwasofolahan9775

2 ай бұрын

This comment needs to be pinned

Did this guy literally just call watching football risking your life? Gaslighting 101

@wealthjohnson6462

3 ай бұрын

Did you watch the Nigerian match on Wednesday, do you know how many men that died that day?

@stamzthehuman897

3 ай бұрын

@@wealthjohnson6462 Only South African men died that day

@georgeemmanuella5502

3 ай бұрын

@@wealthjohnson6462watching ball is not a need. So if you want ball and you die because of it then that’s on you😂 if when you are actually saving your family from something like armed robbery that’s when you are risking your life 😂😂😂

@georgeemmanuella5502

3 ай бұрын

Or let’s say you are a footballer and you die on pitch Ehen I can say you died cause you were trying to provide for your family so you are actually risking your life. Not sitting down and watching ball then you die

@stillfitz9749

3 ай бұрын

This is what i hate about feminist you get an argument debunked and you choose to start selecting faults in hs example

But if I say that Christianity is a Western concept 😶

@boochi7087

3 ай бұрын

They will ask God to strike you down lol. 😂

@baptistkotalo6790

3 ай бұрын

Christianity actually started in Africa do your research

@chantelnatalya6433

3 ай бұрын

@@baptistkotalo6790no it didn’t

@chantelnatalya6433

3 ай бұрын

@@baptistkotalo6790 The Christian religion began following the crucifixion of Jesus in the 1st century AD. The movement began with Jewish people from a region called Judea, in what is modern-day Israel and Palestine, so Christianity came from the Middle East

@KingofgraceSARA

3 ай бұрын

​@@chantelnatalya6433 When there was a bounty placed on Jesus' head, he came up Africa. His presence couldn't be hidden because if so, why did the wise men come from the East to worship Him and why did His parents have to go into Egypt to keep Him safe?

I noticed that the anti-feminist viewpoints lacked a lot educational depth and most of it seemed to stem from “women shouldn’t be better than men” . Also just to address the notion of the prompt that said “the world favours men…” ; The patriarchal system wasn't established to favor women but men ;so yes the world was designed to favour men and In fact, it creates problems for both men and women by sticking to old-fashioned gender roles. And right now as time has progressed , those same expectations that were created by MEN are causing difficulties for men in this modern day, affecting their mental health and how they're seen in society. - And the guy towards the end talking about how the most successful people in the world are Men, like what do you expect, the patriarchal society was designed to favour men so obviously they got to benefit more, because women started a later stage. It’s like colonisation, the whites that colonised Africa are ahead because they had leverage and it doesn’t speak on the incompetence of African countries. I think it’s important to acknowledge these issues to work towards a fairer and more equal community.

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

Speak on it!!!

@onokorame

3 ай бұрын

​@@viggieokAriana what're you doing here? 🤣

@justinuwaidia5873

3 ай бұрын

The Patriarchal system also includes prior to our current civilised world. The patriarchal system can also be depicted as the time where there was danger in the world, dangers in hunting and gathering, dangers through war. Men didn’t always benefit from the patriarchal system and were once seen to be expendable during times of war. I do agree that we should work towards a more equal society but we’ve come a long way and to just completely do away with traditional values in patriarchy may have unintended consequences. Women need to take pride in the household and men need to take pride in leadership without abusing their position.

@jeanrewss

3 ай бұрын

@@justinuwaidia5873 While it's acknowledged that the patriarchal system has historical roots, claiming that men were always expendable during times of war oversimplifies the complex dynamics of historical societies. The evolution of societal norms doesn't negate the need for progress. While maintaining certain values, it's crucial to address the limitations and inequalities inherent in traditional gender roles. Striving for a more equal society doesn't necessarily mean abandoning all traditional values; rather, it involves adapting and reshaping them to better suit the needs and aspirations of all individuals, irrespective of gender.

@justinuwaidia5873

3 ай бұрын

@@jeanrewss I just disagreed with the prompt that it benefitted men, that’s all. I’m neither for or against feminism, I’m more critical of the attempt to convince women that the patriarchy is oppressive. I think choice is what we’re all fighting for. I’d even argue that there’s actually an over correction in regard to what women are fighting for. If women would focus on choice in opposed to actually fighting to be men, society would benefit more. Men are better built to be career driven as it makes them more attractive to women and more valuable in status. Women don’t benefit from this whatsoever. I find it funny that a lot of women don’t want to work 40 hours a week. A lot of women don’t like the stresses of the work place, and would rather be stay in their feminine and take care of the home and family… unfortunately the nature of the patriarchy is really a psyop which benefits governments more than it does the average woman’s mental health and happiness. In the least sexist way, in a way I think men make better choices for women than women do for themselves. Play the game to your strengths and you’ll likely win more often than not.

The fact that the anti-feminists started contradicting themselves and arguing with each other is so funny and says alot😂😂

@saidzueke4782

3 ай бұрын

Because in feminism you cant! You get canceled

@immaculatepeter5529

2 ай бұрын

@@saidzueke4782that’s not true.

The reason why men were the primary inventors was largely due to the fact most cultures around the world during most of human history emphasized that women only needed to learn how to cook, clean, serve their husband, have children, serve the husband's family, and have children. At most, women would learn how to make clothes, blankets, cloths, sing, dance, play instruments, read a little, write a little, and perhaps learn some home remedies from the other women in the family. Women were largely barred from places that taught about the science of this world, government, and other subjects not entirely connected to the home, to a brothel, or could be used for entertainment for males. I also want it to be known that the "men built the world argument" shouldn't be used if we can't also say that "women built you and gave you life". We can't downplay one thing and uphold the other.

@minmin-mv5fu

3 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!

@honestgenz4413

3 ай бұрын

@jww0007 And that's why y'all asses are weak because you think it's all about physical strength. At most, you'll be a bodyguard and fertilizer, but for science, math, rulership, and progression, you're relatively useless

@afeezsthirstymind

3 ай бұрын

@@jww0007in bonobos the males are larger and stronger but the females rule…

@BrassMagician

3 ай бұрын

And I also think "women built you and gave you life" shouldn't be used if we can't also say that "you need a man and a woman to create life". But except from that i do agree with you

@msaniitz5588

3 ай бұрын

@@jww0007 It's amazing how many men feed into their own insecurities and egos and only see their worth based on how they can inflict violence. Using your logic, any man who has a larger muscle mass than you personally, would make you less significant in comparison. And by the way, hyenas, like lions, are matriarchal. The females rule those groups.

Why didnt they call more knowledgeable people to participate in this discussion?? 😭 The anti feminists were saying rubbish as usual and the feminists werent doing a good job at countering the ignorance and misinformation from the other side..Cruise, is there a way to sign up for subsequent discussions?

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your interest, please see the link in the description....

@onokorame

3 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts!! The feminists weren't even rebutting what the anti-feminists were saying, especially the female anti-feminist Amaka. Rubbish 🗑️

@lemondropzs

3 ай бұрын

I was so frustrated watching this too. So many points missed that would have countered the nonsense.

@jeffersonhassan4558

3 ай бұрын

Same here,I was just mad watching this

@boochi7087

3 ай бұрын

​@@jointhecruiseEh! Is Ade single?! Asking for a friend 😂

Feminism is not just about marriage & relationships - the Bible also says wives, submit to your husbands and husbands, love your wives as Christ loves the church as Christ gave himself up for the church. It goes both ways, it also does not say women should submit to any man they come across, its in the context of marriage. Feminism is about fighting for equal rights, equal pay, for women to have a voice, not to push men down. The barbie movie was a great display of how women have been treated for centuries & it was satire. Men and women are equal and have been created equally, we both have strengths that help each other

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

Bless you dear. My colleague in a school teaches CRS. This man in the name of trying to motivate the only boy in the class, said that he can't let them beat him and that he's the head of the family 😮😮😮 which family? A boy of 13 years, someone that has barely touched puberty 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I'm not under any man without my consent. Even my father, it's because of respect and he raised me, I'm also under my mother so it's not a gender issue. One day, I believe God will lead me to a man whose life and heart is fully submitted to Him alone.

@shukiivibez

3 ай бұрын

You both make good points but contradict yourselves at the same time…sweetheart like it or not you are under the submission of your father because he was your father and he played the role of a father to you, how would you feel if your father said he is not under obligation to you just because you’re his daughter?? (That’s were your mistake was lol)

@AdelaideAnn

3 ай бұрын

@shukiivibez oh 100%, agree with you! I'm referring to the scripture reference that was made in the video. I'm under obligation to my father because of the relationship that I have with him - he also has obligations to me as I am his child, not just morally but also legally. If a parent is neglectful to their child, there are legal ramifications! I'm referring to how we are not under submission to any man, but the Bible specifically references husbands and wives. The Bible also says we should honor our mother and father! :) hence why I would be under submission in my Father's house as well, not to any man that I have an interaction with. Of course there are the general societal rules that we follow such as following the rules your manager gives you, listening to your teacher at school, etc etc but a women is not to be under full submission of any man she encounters.

@dammieoflagos280

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, Men being offended about Barbie is just a visual representation of “put yourself in their shoes” 😂😂

@shukiivibez

3 ай бұрын

@@AdelaideAnn oh yes I see your point now and I agree with you

4:49 why are you ok for men to dominate women, but the possibility of the tables being turned scares you. maybe you don't agree with the status quo much after all

@titisammisule6434

3 ай бұрын

Exactly 😭

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

Their argument is "there can not be to captains on a ship" then let women lead then? All of a sudden they recognize the problem of subjugation.

@benapeh854

3 ай бұрын

It's so bullshit. They know it's unfair but they enjoy the privilege.

Elisha sha! His views are so misogynistic. Who says feminism is about women dominating men? We’re calling for equal rights. Barbie is just a movie. Rest IJN!

@onokorame

3 ай бұрын

Thank youuuuuu!!!!

@tonyeffik6781

3 ай бұрын

yes that’s what’s called for but that isn’t how it’s being practiced nowadays, especially third wave feminism. there’s extremists to every ideology and a lot of feminists nowadays aren’t calling for equal rights but domination and misandry

@tonyeffik6781

3 ай бұрын

that’s what’s called for but a lot of the times that isn’t how it’s practiced, especially third wave femnism

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

He clearly didn't watch the Barbie movie, cause he'd have known that's not what the Barbie movie was preaching

@nsodnsod

3 ай бұрын

the barbie was the worst example to use to explain women dominating men, the movie had good points, but was not it, and as man i found it laughable of view of men in the movie

I like how the guy in black put things into perspective. That the goal of feminism just as democracy; is good but practiced wrongly doesn’t change the goal. Meanwhile the arguments made by the guy in green (with spectacles) were too vague and irrational

That man elisha needs to stop watching all those red pill videos

@Enkaybe

3 ай бұрын

Exactlyyyy , the sad thing is that those people just want to capture the attention, and get the views of their target which is mostly men so they’ll say what you want to hear😂😂 At the end of the day it’s their market niche and theyre profiting from the views lol They may not even think like that in real life, and supposing they do those people’s lives are nothing to emulate and dumb men are taking advice from someone who has barely got their life together and you may even be better than them 😂

@TheBid

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@imikanunwana3148

3 ай бұрын

hes not totally wrong sha, red pill has a lot of facts in it

@adilamusicTV

3 ай бұрын

Have you ever heard of social engineering?

@imikanunwana3148

3 ай бұрын

@@adilamusicTV yeah it's a team we use here in cybersecurity especially if you're preparing for security + exams

The anti feminists agreeing that feminism came from European culture but try to use a European religion to base their “African tradition” is so stupid. Like that bible is European, what is the actual African culture please

If Nigeria doesn’t respect its women, then it will be destroyed.

@rhe987

3 ай бұрын

Traditionalists respect women they have. The strongest features to that religion is women. The aspect of the divine mother takes care of everyone where everyone feels accepted. Christianity is definitely a cause for the imbalance . “Women is the neck and man is the head” .

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

Preach!

@prettyhollypolly7553

3 ай бұрын

@@rhe987maybe you and I are on the same page.

@marthangafor6414

3 ай бұрын

​@@rhe987I respectfully disagree. Many of these traditions are also responsible for traumatising widowhood rituals, discriminatory inheritance laws, FGM etc (depending on where you are in Africa). Many Christians have misinterpreted the Bible to suit their vested interests. That same book has stories of heroic women who worked with God to break social norms. Jesus' attitude towards women is the standard.

@WilliamWoolf-bs9uv

3 ай бұрын

Everyone should be respected, women and men. But I don’t see how it will be destroyed if men are the builders of society.

Make them no bring this Chiamaka come again 😭 She's closeminded and doesn't allow people to air their views before talking. You can't go anywhere having a conversation with that type of person. See how she was yelling at that older woman because she was simply airing her views which she didn't allow her to say.

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

I agree. She was horrible to the older woman and made weak points. Aggressive and insufferable

@amarachiigboeli6651

2 ай бұрын

Honestly I feel ashamed of the Chiamaka girl . Serious messop 👎🏻

Man said that while a woman is in the kitchen cooking he is out there providing security 😂😂😂

It’s so funny how they missed the whole point of the Barbie movie, that Barbie world where men were subordinate to women and women were in charge is literally what life is like for the average woman TODAY

I’m sorry but Chiamaka- why? A man is superior to a woman? So, a danfo driver is superior to Ngozi Okonjo Iweala because of his third leg?

@denatora7142

3 ай бұрын

lmaoooooooooo

@elaineariolu1140

3 ай бұрын

don’t mind the mugu😂💔

@47thecreator

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@olugboyeopeyemi2428

3 ай бұрын

She no get sense of self worth at all😂

@dabless4744

3 ай бұрын

Serious pick me

It’s hilarious that mister “men are protecting the family by watching football while women slave away in the kitchen” doesn’t think it’s important if a man kills a snake when it comes in 🙄

@patrickrumbu2902

3 ай бұрын

I am anti feminist (in it current state, at least) & even i found that wild!

@essyisjustreacting

3 ай бұрын

Most of them want to be traditional without being fully traditional.

@xolalianaglate6803

3 ай бұрын

They only want to be traditional when it fully benefits them!!

@immaculatepeter5529

2 ай бұрын

@@patrickrumbu2902anyone who says they are anti feminist is not a feminist in anyway not in its “ current state” not in any way. Feminism just means equal right for men and women.

@oliviaojpg

Ай бұрын

@@essyisjustreactingyup In reality they act like children but want to make all decision. Mchewwww

you won't find any anti feminist who make good points, because people who are educate don't buy into such a stupid idea. it takes both genders to bring life into the world, so both genders should be respected.

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

Thank you all anti feminists repeat the same talking points that can be easily debunked

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Barbie, a Satire, was a very good reference. Do people understand abstract art, dystopian concepts and thought provoking concepts at all?

@Adventures-of-a-roadie

3 ай бұрын

How is that a good explain when Barbie was made from the premise that women too could be these things that where one male dominated.

I feel that a lot of people view feminism through a colonial white Christian lens, which makes feminism same as a threat. I fear that a lot of traditional African values were lost a long. We forget that a lot of traditional African cultures were led or advised by women once upon a time. They always want to say that feminism was a western invention but they also forget to acknowledge that their ideas of patriarchy are also ideas of Western and Christian influence. They want to talk about European and white men brought feminism but they're not mentioning who brought them their particular form of Christianity. It's the same people. People always want to quote the part in the Bible where it says women submitting to their husbands but forget the part that comes right after that! Reminding husbands to love their wives like they love God how he loved the church, which I feel is even stronger and deeper. And let's not quote the Barbie movie if you haven't watched the movie. I can tell a lot of their talking points were just from what they heard from conservatives, who also didn't sit and watch the movie. But don't get me wrong I'm glad these conversations are being had, but sometimes I feel that people come in only to push their view and not to find middle ground. Anecdotal stories are not facts, and empirical data is is without emotion. However both are necessary to have an effective conversation and productive communication.

Feminism didn't come out of nowhere, if those women were treated well they wouldn't have done all those things. Unfortunately nowadays feminism is nothing like the original one, just like Nietzsche said when you fight something beware that you yourself do not become that thing.

@marthangafor6414

3 ай бұрын

Spot on! I'd never go near the monstrosity that is feminism today but I will always be pro the humanity and dignity of women (and men).

I am in physical pain watching this video 😭

@oghorodioghenerukevwe7179

2 ай бұрын

Me too. I can't stand the stupidity. I keep on taking breaks and I am almost crying 😭

Why is he referencing a Barbie movie to contextualise the goal of feminism?

@adilamusicTV

3 ай бұрын

Have you ever heard of social engineering?

@lemondropzs

3 ай бұрын

@@adilamusicTV no but I think I can deduce what that means

@chloe111able

2 ай бұрын

Everyone the higher-ups tell you what they going to do in movies so it's not a surprise to you. That Barbie movie is very relevant in today's world

@mikesenesie8430

2 ай бұрын

Every movie has a message, the role of the feminist movement is to emasculate men, not for a fare treatment. Men are being disqualified from a potential positions because the other candidate is a woman, but society can't discuss that as well.

@B_addie

2 ай бұрын

@@chloe111ableWhat about when the higher ups try to convince our men that denying women’s rights is somehow going to help us as a people? There is no way for a weakened uneducated parent, regardless of gender, to raise a child better than someone who can give their kids the tools to actually be successful in life.

I wish more people knew about how many inventors were women. They made a lot of the things we use today Edit- y’all’s misogyny is showing💀 men have been getting credit for their inventions for centuries. All I said was “hey there were women who were inventors. They should get credit too” and y’all are bothered💀 I’m done responding to any of y’all this is honestly eye opening and disappointing.

@benapeh854

3 ай бұрын

Often the same people would say that the patriarchy isn't a real thing.

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

He forgot that in the matter of invention, women and Africans are in the same boat. It's because of the denial of higher education and even the right to speak sef that delayed certain things. There have been controversy about stolen credit from black inventors due to slavery and racism. I bet that there are some inventions by women that were released under pen names like the case of female authors for the same reason and some who just let men take the credit so that the invention can at least see the light of day.

@shukiivibez

3 ай бұрын

Women have definitely invented things in this world for sure but can you compare the numbers to that of men??

@chimmychimchim6143

3 ай бұрын

@@shukiivibez men were given more opportunities in the past. Some of the top universities didn’t allow women to attend until 1961. So yea men did make more inventions but it wasn’t because women didn’t try or didn’t want to. They weren’t even given the opportunity to nor were they even given the knowledge to.

@chimmychimchim6143

3 ай бұрын

@@shukiivibez but just so you know, because I doubt you do, here is a list of inventions that women have made. Dishwasher, icecream maker, home security system, foot pedal trash can, disposable diapers, Kevlar, polonium and radium, circular saw, windshield wiper, car heater, life raft- there’s more than that

I find it insane that the woman with blonde hair and a septum is so against feminism, when I’m the west she would be perceived as a feminist. 😅

@faithkerubo8357

3 ай бұрын

She's probably a pick-me

@Enkaybe

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@faithkerubo8357She issss! She was pandering to the men ,it’s soo funny😂

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

Same 🤣

I disagree with that guy that said feminism is for total dominance over the men. It's absolutely false. Feminism is about choice. Don't just take away our choices, that's all we are asking for, it's not that hard to comprehend.

@ThereWasHope

3 ай бұрын

Yes and in the Barbie movie, neither society actually worked well and that shows equality is better.

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

👏🏾

@angeleyes3396

3 ай бұрын

Goes to show you a woman’s choice makes the man powerless because they can no longer control her

@24:00 I’m shocked at guy in the green indirectly saying that the BM is lesser than the WM. African Americans would have ripped him a new one talking like that. He’s insane.

@ozzeghi

3 ай бұрын

HONESTLY!! That part got me so irritated

@gloriaokonye341

3 ай бұрын

​@@jww0007What makes you say that?

@MisizToni

3 ай бұрын

Honestly, such a disgusting opinion 🤮

@ozzeghi

3 ай бұрын

@@jww0007pls explain why you think the skin colour of an individual should be the basis of determining if they are lesser or not

@ozzeghi

3 ай бұрын

@@jww0007i honestly want to know why u think so

Hey Cruise. Cool videos, please keep it up. However, I would like to suggest if you can thoroughly screen guests that come on your show. Some people don’t seem to understand the prompts and tend to become too sentimental without trying to listen or understand the other side. I feel like if you’re coming to a show like this, you should be able to understand that you’re coming to discuss with people with different beliefs from you, not coming with serious bias with the aim to instill your own beliefs… ‘Cause it seriously got tiring while watching the video. Other than that, I think you guys are doing a great job. The first time I saw your videos I thought it was jubilee lol. Really nice quality, just the casting that might need more attention.

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. We totally agree with you. We've started some more critical screening and hopefully the casting for future episodes would be way better than this.

@AP-pm9qy

2 ай бұрын

Let us not be deceived if this is how the average African thinks we need to know. Sometimes I wonder why our country is so dilapidated but seeing videos like this reminds me. I’m surrounded by smart people but now I know that most of them are like this - so it makes sense why our continent is the way it is.

Feminism is not a western idea its been going on for thousands of years in different countries including Africa, what about the equally yoked verse in the bible

@elpistol8980

3 ай бұрын

Africa isn’t a country

@homeixgx

3 ай бұрын

I don't think that's what they implied.@@elpistol8980

@soloyolo904

3 ай бұрын

​@@elpistol8980 Thank you

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

Thousands of years 😂😂😂😂 so when exactly? How many years before Christ? 😂😂😂😂

@abcminime

3 ай бұрын

Stop talking none sense. Feminism is european.

I had to pause again. So while the woman is cooking. The husband is security. Do these people think before talking? So people just randomly breaking into the house while your wife cooks. Common sense isn't so common.

@iremiposiajayi122

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 It's so funny. Security ko exco ni.

@sweetlemonade6925

3 ай бұрын

Worst part of it, if men are expected to go out and provide, how will they “protect” the woman when he’s away? Most households I’ve seen are protected by the woman. Even in the animal kingdom it is the mother that protects her babies, the fathers are usually not around when the attacks come.

@NDR-hu8wh

3 ай бұрын

@iremiposiajayi122 When men say they are providers and protecters, I laugh. I ask, "What are you providing and protecting?" Reply, "I pay the bills, and if someone breaks into the house." Sir, you need to do better than that. If you don't provide 100% of the bills, you are a co-provider. What about emotionally, mentally, spiritually, sexully (I mean more than dick), and the rest of them. I have been in my house for x years and never a break in. All of a sudden, I marry you, and then someone is going to break in to prove you can protect your family. These dudes need to stfu. It is funny and sad at the same time.

@djidjine5082

3 ай бұрын

The women’s lives are in more danger cooking. The fire, the hot oil are more dangerous

@YourMadam

3 ай бұрын

😅😅What if a burglar breaks in via the kitchen?!😁

africa needed this channel. shout out from south africa

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

❤️

For me feminism is just about giving women choice. We are all human beings and equal and if someone tells you that u can't do something cause you're a woman even if that's the case, I think you should let her the choice to actually decide that.

@sophiatsaka5596

3 ай бұрын

All adult humans should have the choice to live their dreams.

@abcminime

3 ай бұрын

Women always had choices , we even have female gods, who are powerful. This feminism is european

@afeezsthirstymind

3 ай бұрын

@@abcminimenope they didn’t look at history or middle eastern societies 200 years ago Educate yourself.

@abcminime

3 ай бұрын

@Bluehead485 what are you talking about. I defn study more history then you. Feminism is a western concept, there no name for Feminism in any African language, or Arabic or punjab cause it never existed. Feminism is introduced by the west just like Christianity was introduced by the west.

@gloriananor1428

3 ай бұрын

Athena, Cleopatra, Aphrodite, Artemis, Minerva etc educate yourself first@@afeezsthirstymind

Did he really say he’s inferior to the white man???

@denatora7142

3 ай бұрын

Walai talai. na so I hear am... dem dey gba. I am glad he made himself into a meme before the whole world. Internet dont forget.

@gloriaokonye341

3 ай бұрын

What? I haven't even watched that part. Huh? That's crazy. Such a colonized mindset 🤦🏽‍♀️ I won't even try to argue with that kind of person that will say such.

@tonyeffik6781

3 ай бұрын

he’s a fool for that statement, he didn’t know how to retort to what the guy next to him said so he conceded to foolishness in order to stand strong in his point

@Maithebandit

3 ай бұрын

Where 😭

@gloriaokonye341

3 ай бұрын

​@@MaithebanditIt was implied

20:00 - 21:40 This kind of logic is just mind blowing...wetin you dey on the look out for every day?...lmaoooo

@47thecreator

3 ай бұрын

Such a stupid point 😭

Bringing religion to prove your point also shows a lot of ignorance

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

!!!!

@KushQueen9

2 ай бұрын

That woman is severely brainwashed and all she could do was quote the bible😂

i don't like how on the anti feminist side, it was the men who talked more than the women.

@honestfriend767

3 ай бұрын

Stop, they had valid points. I loved that they got to speak it shows that feminism is not just something that woman see as important but something that some men also see as important.

@koladeojo7060

3 ай бұрын

Toxic mascs and pick me women

@olugboyeopeyemi2428

3 ай бұрын

​@@koladeojo7060YESSS I was just saying "pickmeisha" when that Chiamaka girl was talking 😂

@angeleyes3396

3 ай бұрын

Well I mean it’s par for the course right

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

Im surprised that anti feminist women exists and I’m Christian

Lool, Feminism is not a Western idea. The principles have always been present in our culture/society. Western people gave it a name, and that's it.

Why are we platforming misogynists???

@boochi7087

3 ай бұрын

They platform religious bigots so I'm not surprised at all.

@denatora7142

3 ай бұрын

Sometimes you need them to air themselves out on the internet. Remember Internet never forgets.

@alienarist0crat

3 ай бұрын

It’s important to not only show "ideal" people in media, in the real world we will always encounter people with different opinions than our own, it’s giving everybody fair chance to see where the opposite sites are coming from. Ironically enough, alienating people will only further create division amongst all of us as a society.

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

As much as you think we are, we are not. We reached out to as many feminists as we could and made do with the ones we had available to us.

@zolac9732

3 ай бұрын

Yes we are. Why do you think they shouldn't have a platform. This is a debate. Are you afraid of ideas.

The guy in black on the feminist side is very smart. I liked how he answered the “what a man can do a woman can do better” . As a woman I agree with his answer, the saying should be about the fact that a woman can obviously do what a man can do because she is equally a humanbeing however when it comes to doing it better, she has the potential to do it better . Not any woman will be able to step up in a difficult role , and not any man would be able to step up in a difficult role. It all comes down to how good the person is regardless of their gender. It’s the potential of doing better than men as a fellow human counterpart is what should be the focus.

@Phriffo

3 ай бұрын

Not true😂😂😂. We are biologically and instinctively different. We are not equal. The west is brainwashing you.

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

Very true

It’s honestly disappointing to see the mentality some Nigerians have towards their women. I expected better from the giants of Africa

@Enkaybe

3 ай бұрын

Yeahh, I heard in Nigeria a lot of the men are misogynistic and all. I’m also African but most of the men in my country don’t think like that, I think in my country women have a lot of rights and don’t face this from the men because the men in my country are caring and care for us the women and don’t think they’re above us. It’s so sad most Nigerian men think like this

@sweetlemonade6925

3 ай бұрын

This is honestly not a Nigerian problem. If you noticed these people come from different tribes. The feminists men and women were Yoruba, the Yoruba culture (and other cultures found in the South West and South South) have always respected women and given them positions of power. I am Edo and we have always respected women, majority of landlords in my state are women. Women are the ones owning and inheriting lands, houses etc. Same for Yoruba people. The people on the anti feminist side were mostly Igbo and Hausa, those tribes tend to believe in dominating women and not seeing them as equal to hold high positions. They even have high bride prices because they believe women are commodities. It really depends on the tribe.

@Dee-ux4vq

3 ай бұрын

@@Enkaybewhat country are you from?

I hate how the topic is gender equality and they keep bringing Jesus into the conversation 🙄

@abcminime

3 ай бұрын

It's what they believe in, they are Christians and the bible guide their lives. How could they leave Jesus out

@benapeh854

3 ай бұрын

Lol, that's what religion does to people's minds.

@KingofgraceSARA

3 ай бұрын

He's the Creator of ALL things😊

@SprinkleSprinkle44

3 ай бұрын

Sleep😂😂😂​@@KingofgraceSARA

@justinrogers8166

2 ай бұрын

They always have to bring the religions their colonizers gave them.

Also i worked a job as a law enforcement officer for 12 years. I worked with men who would never be brave enough to jump in a fight. They cant type a report nor can they take down someone with a knife actively stabbing someone. But had all the smoke for me about letting an inmate put her feet in a chair. By the time i get them together about us applying for the same job, with the same responsibilities, but yet they cant do two percent of what they are hired to do will i can do 100%... I dont agree with that men protect us. Because those same men will be closer to said danger and stand there and do nothing. It was a whole group of us female officers who were always the ones to handle things to the point where they gave us each nicknames. One of my social media handles is supposed to be an insult to me because i did my job and still looked good doing it.

almost everything the anti-fems said was complete wass💀 lmao

This has to be one of the most unintelligent discussions I've ever listned to

Please pick well knowledgeable people for these videos, cause the misinformation is soo annoying. I couldn’t even finish the whole video

“Madam I am very sorry about your experience, you are strong” well said brother👏🏽👍🏼

Im sorry, i died when they used barbie as a reference point 😂😂😂😂 was it woke, yes but was it a movie that talks about dominating men, nope please 😂😂

11:13 the issue with this area is that people mix the hierarchy within marriage and in society. I'm equal to any man, including my future husband. However, I'm going to choose to be under his leadership in obedience to God, so it's not about the man, it's about God. Also, don't submit to a man who hasn't submitted to God. I mean we choose to be under the authority of the men we elect into government, our pastors and religious leaders, you can always decide to do otherwise but we choose to stay under their leadership. And if they disappoint us, we always revolt against them

@msaniitz5588

3 ай бұрын

I will never understand how a woman can willingly subject herself to her male partner, as if she has no autonomy of her own .... and all of this is determined by something as arbitrary as his anatomy. I get that that's what written in that book, but the logic just isn't there for me.

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

@@msaniitz5588 subjecting is more forceful. That's why I used the example of government. Even in other spaces, we vote for one person to lead, now these people aren't Autocratic either. As a wife you still have your agency, for me it's more of a figure head thing. The same verse that says a woman should submit also says that like Christ died for the church the man should do so and also be ready to forgive her no matter what: before Christ, men could divorce their wives as they liked but the woman didn't have a reason to leave. Also, the man has to submit to his wife too and God. That means you have to choose a person who fears God

@msaniitz5588

3 ай бұрын

@@tamiausten873 By stating that "subjecting is more forceful," you're recognizing how extreme this hierarchical structure can be. "Subjecting," "person to lead," "figure head," "submit to" ... it's all the same topic of a power imbalance. An image of force or control would never be evoked within a relationship of partnership and cooperation, which amazes me how it's not even a preferred option. Your book of reference was written thousands of years ago, BY MEN, FOR MEN, during a very misogynistic time. It ignored the real source of nature, where one can also see the true value of women. It flipped the script (women came from men? Really?!!) & doubled down on men's insecurities & egos, telling them they had to constantly feel superior to feel good. Men need to control themselves, NOT women. The book tells you not to challenge its logic, so I get that's where you're coming from. I just find it sad to witness my fellow sisters still succumbing to such a world.

@Subconscious-serenity

2 ай бұрын

​@@msaniitz5588conditioning will do that to ya. It breaks my heart that they see themselves so low that they believe they need a man to lead them. Intelligence, wisdom, being logical isn't inherent to men. But because of socialization and conditioning u see statements like hers.

If it wasn’t for a BLACK WOMEN we would still be using maps, if it wasn’t for a BLACK WOMEN we would have taken a lot longer to go into space, if it wasn’t for a BLACK WOMEN. Just to name some people who changed the world. I am disappointed that these people were selected for this conversation. It was not informative at all and very backwards in thought. There are some amazing black people who could have sat in them seats. Women who did ted talks on black culture, race, women’s rights etc. FIND THEM WOMEN! This was a waste of filming. Please do better when selecting in this category of panellists

20:48 is the greatest gaslighting ever 😂😂 Men naturally don’t like house chores, cooking, washing plates, sweeping etc. But saying as the woman is cooking you’re putting your life on the line by watching football is the highest from the of gaslighting from an educated person. We all cannot be perfect, admit your incompetencies and find a partner that can match with you.

@marthangafor6414

3 ай бұрын

I don't think women naturally like house chores either. It's a matter of socialisation and expectations

@boochi7087

3 ай бұрын

​@@marthangafor6414I hate cooking so when I was dating, as soon as the man asked if I could cook, I said no thank you, and left. 😂

@dammieoflagos280

3 ай бұрын

@@marthangafor6414 You have a point but according to society, we’ve been sold that women often take more responsibility for house chores.

@viggieok

3 ай бұрын

I understand where you're coming from, but I do my agree that men don't "naturally" like chores. It's not a natural thing, we're just socialized into it. We've been so indoctrinated into believing chores are for women, that's why we feel that way. Clearly, there are also women who don't like chores, doesn't mean it's "natural", it's just how people are from different backgrounds.

@TheBid

3 ай бұрын

Ya it’s a weird analogy but I get what he saying he basically saying men are also in the watch to protect their family in case danger comes lol so, his role his very important although ur not often used 😅

20:16 my guy said men are on the lookout while women are cooking. What kind of lie is this 😂 Person wey go run first if thief burst him house 😭

@iremiposiajayi122

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

People really need context when talking about the bible.

Critical thinking is far from a lot of people sha. Meanwhile, Ade, you are whoever you think you are. Your critical thinking skills are superb!!!

That oga talking about Barbie did you actually watch it at all. One of the main themes was when the kens came together to realize that were equally as important ans the Barbies so what exactly was your point.

Lol it’s actually funny to think about because when you realize that the head can not move without the neck, you’ll realize that saying that the man is the head and woman is the neck really means that they have to work together.

@msaniitz5588

3 ай бұрын

And heaven forbid they should just advocate for team-work, collaboration, and partnership, instead of catering to these type of men who have to punch down in order to feel good about themselves.

@scpeddd

3 ай бұрын

@@msaniitz5588it all boils down to the male fragile ego :/

All I hear is.. We liked the way it was. We want it to stay that way.Men are leading and women stay quiet and do what your told and I hate that for y'all

@Kingofthenet2

3 ай бұрын

Same

So isnt Christianity brought to Nigeria via the White European Missionaries a Western Concept but you Nigerians still follow it dont you?

@jasonc2407

3 ай бұрын

Christianity is not a western concept buddy😂

@benapeh854

3 ай бұрын

@jasonc2407 Christianity IS a western concept and the spread of Christianity is largely tied to colonialism by European powers.

@fantasma8253

3 ай бұрын

Africans weren’t taught Christianity by the white man lol, it existed in africa way before they came and conquered and white washed everything. Do you actual research

@KingofgraceSARA

3 ай бұрын

​@@benapeh854 The westerners were the 1st to weaponized Christianity.

I really wish i could be part of the creative and content strategy department of cruise. There are a lot of prompts that could've been asked but were for some reason left out. Is there a way I can apply?

Feminism is not solely about women’s empowerment, feminist activism goes both ways for males and females… the main goal is equality for all. We respect our men and the role they play however feminism seeks to draw more light on the recognition of women capabilities, equal treatment regardless of the gender.

@phinaseven-pn5ke

3 ай бұрын

I totally agree with Ade on how the goal of feminism is being practiced wrongly nevertheless the goal of feminism is equal right for all.

@phinaseven-pn5ke

3 ай бұрын

And what is this thing Maxwell is saying about women in the kitchen where it’s safe whiles men are on the lookout🤦‍♀️ please…

There shouldnt be a timer that short. The guy in the beginning couldn't even get to his point that i wanted to hear because of the timer. Change that

My blood is boiling and it's not even 10 minutes yet.

A round of applause👏... I especially love the speaker in black. I love your mindset, valid points.

I hate people who think that men and women aren’t equal due to their physical attributes and capabilities. Like obviously we have physical differences but when we are talking about equality we are referring to being treated as equals in society like men and women being offered the same opportunities, pay, equity etc.

I feel for this subject to reach its height, qualified professionals from psychology, gender studies, and other relevant fields should be added to all discussions held, all I see is ignorance halfway through the video, the biases of these individuals do no justice to this debate. But great job cruise 🎉

Yoruba culture is feminist at the beginning but now it's partially feminist

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, just because we didn't have a name for it doesn't mean it didn't exist here. I read that Queen Amina who never married, had male lovers anywhere she went and even killed them as she left. That's literally extreme feminism. And stupid Netflix chose Cleopatra who had to commit s@#cide to escape disgrace in Rome, she even left her children to suffer alone, after not being claimed by 2 men.

@prettyhollypolly7553

3 ай бұрын

Yes! I’m an Igbo woman but identify with Yoruba culture because of its femininity. 😊

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

This is interesting. Please can you expound on this?

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

@@prettyhollypolly7553 even Igbo had some too. Women worked as well as men, infact everyone had a job. The idea of housewife came from rich Europeans, the poor ones couldn't afford to not work. The rich women didn't even take care of their children, poor men's wives were the nannies, cooks, maids. Today in Nigeria, some misguided folk want women to stay home and do all the housekeeping with no benefits or social life, which isn't done anywhere. Even the Americans probably reacted because of this, housewives weren't intially doing much. Then the issue of being involved in politics, the Yoruba women were influential.

@tgl_e9829

3 ай бұрын

Women were respect in africa before religion came

The kitchen and Football Analogy is the most stupid thing I've heard all year

Men should view feminism as a woman's right not woman lowering their self esteem. Empower women so we can build together. And as men are you not tired of having all this responsibility on ur head. As for me I want to do 50/50 with my husband so he and I both have healthy relationship with our kids that they actually see him and love him and his not some working machine that just brings money , we both work and support each other and we have our paths inline his happy for my success because it benefits him and same for me and his success. . It's good for ur mental health for both genders to live long happy lives.

@boochi7087

3 ай бұрын

I don't even think men understand that feminism will be more beneficial to them vs the patriarchy. The patriarchy is what forces men to believe that they have to be this difficult, emotionally immature, disposable brainless group of people. Women are supposed to be a yin to the yang of men, but men want women to be the stepping stone. It's sad for men, but I am glad that women are experiencing the liberation feminism offers.

We may have different financial situations, different experiences, different capabilities both physically and mentally, all this means is that no two human are the same but we are equals. There are men and women that have done things that we may have not done, people who have invented things that maybe we couldn’t have possibly fathom in a lifetime, individuals who have accomplished great feats that we could perhaps only dream of accomplishing, yes it is undeniable that we are all different, but this difference doesn’t make one superior or inferior to the other. In truth there isn’t any way of objectively measuring who’s life or what individual is superior or inferior to the other.

Since time memorial, men as a collective, have never respected women or given women a chance. In my opinion, it comes down to the absolute basics, respect.

I'm Nigerian and this is embarrassing to watch. Who vetted these people ?. For the love of God the educational standards in Nigeria have dropped to the barest minimum .I'm hearing a lot of Western this and that . We have had strong women of substance in this country .Queen Amina , Dora Akunyili, Chimamanda Adiche , Funmilayo-Ransom Kuti etc . What is important is what do you define as feminism .

Femenism simply means a woman should have the choice to so what is best for her without men’s or patriarchal influence.

I would honestly love to contribute given my background in history

I really wish there was a moderator for each prompt because none of the prompts were answered

Men and women are equal human beings in society. In marriage, especially as a Christian, it’s different, the husband leads the relationship, he is the head of the home. The wife follows the leadership of her HUSBAND! In society, no one should tell me that I can’t run for president because I’m a woman or something ridiculous like that.

I think the show needs to fact check some of the responses as people aren’t necessarily being factual. People must back up their claims with legit references.

Is it so hard to have a mutual connection rather than fighting for who's the head?

@msaniitz5588

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. I believe the most effective leadership skills involve empathy and concern for all involve (skills which can be shared), rather than wanting to win a competition of superiority and operating out of feeding the ego.

please Cruise, let us do a part 2 on this topic, i would be there like mad

@jointhecruise

3 ай бұрын

Part 2 coming soon 👌🏾

Elisha is very short sighted and ignorant. Refering to barbie as an example of encouraging female dominace even though the movie literally ended in the breakfown of that society is insane. Then he said "when we break down thw patriarchy we have the matriarchy" why is there no in-between ?

Hi Cruise. It will be great to have people bring on intellectually stimulating conversations on here. Some of these people were putting out baseless facts and it was just sad to see. Well done though

Bro, this episode gave me a headache. No intellectual discuss here.

20:19 he's on the lookout like security. Uncle if you don't have anything to say please don't talk 😭

It's the fact that this guy Elisha keeps bringing up the fact that men are physically stronger than women as an argument why men are better. That's a scientific and biological fact we are already aware of. That does in fact not equal to his last statement "everything a woman can do, a man will do it better". That's exactly what feminism fights against. We are looking for a world, in which your gender doesn't determine the amount of success you have. It's really saddening to see that to this day people think this way. The thought of having in the future a daughter, whom someone's gonna tell that no matter what she does, she will always be below men just for the fact that she has a different genitalia. Women are powerful, women are thinkers, founders, leaders, mothers, fighters. No matter what anyone tells you believe in your dreams and fight for them. Don't let anyone tell you that just because of your gender you cannot possibly be better. The goal is not to humble or diminish men. The goal is to create a society, in which all genders can coexist and make this world a better place, where everyone has the free will to chose which role works better for them, instead of it just being assigned in birth by your gender. Needless to say we have a lot of work to do.

both sides are incredibly undeducated and lack articulation. Next time there should be a selection of intelligent people with critical thinking skills

The ignorance in this debate is alarminggggg

@Chicken_noodle_soup20

2 ай бұрын

Very

You should come to Ghana, would love to engage in the banter

I love you Cruise cause this is about my home, I mean Nigeria, p.s I'm coming from a place that I watch jubilee which is foreign and having this for Nigerian debates is soooooo necessary

Always an interesting watch seeing how other cultures react to the same and different issues. I can't image a world where it is normal for anyone to think woman are "weaker in the mind". Also Barbie was a movie about what it looks like when one group of people has absolute power females (Barbie) and males (Ken) (Edit) oh and it's also so strange to see how much a Western religion plays such a huge role in Nigerian society. Lol no offense but makes me very great for learning about other cultures but also very happy to be a black American, feels like its 1850 watching this debate 😅 but still a good watch

@preciousangel9848

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! This is literally how I feel. Not just how I feel, but it's true.

Barbie is a satire. Seems like these men don't know that

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

They have a point though. Unfortunately for them, the point doesn't even favor them😂😂😂. Look into Barbie history, even just remember any Barbie you've watched before. Ken was never the star of the show, infact the pets had more lines and importance in the old cartoons. Ken has always been just an accessory Barbie can do without. There's probably an old agenda, however that just means that these men are the ones with weak minds because it's now after over 30 years of Barbie that they are seeing it😂😂😂😂

@gloriaokonye341

3 ай бұрын

​@@tamiausten873There are other movies where men are the main characters too. And when women are even in the movie, it's just to be hypersexualized with no real substance. Also keep in mind that Barbie was marketed towards LITTLE GIRLS. So, I see no need for Ken to be the star. Some Barbies I watched growing up sometimes had no Ken. It was just all about her building friendships and doing magic. I didn't enjoy the Barbie movie, personally but I don't think there was any agenda. It's just something like "haha, if the roles were reversed, how would you like that"?

@gloriaokonye341

3 ай бұрын

​​@@tamiausten873And Barbie being able to do without ken is realistic in the sense that in her world she can just do magic and everything will be good. And also realistically, Women are more likely to thrive without a man than men are without women. Women are status symbols for men but women can be the symbols themselves. Do you understand where I am coming from?

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

@@gloriaokonye341 I think it's naive to think Hollywood has no bad agenda. But I even spoke in a hypothetical manner. My point is that Barbie world has been this way from the beginning but the men in the video acted like it's a 2023 issue. I'm a Barbie stan, I was so overjoyed when it came out and I was a bit worried it might be ruined like every other live action nostalgia movie. It wasn't perfect but I guess only Barbie fans liked it as it is.

@tamiausten873

3 ай бұрын

@@gloriaokonye341 I know that there are movies of women being just ornaments. I'm referring to the Barbie universe. That's how it had been, the male characters weren't so important to the story. But people just see the 2023 version like it's brand new and they missed the idea. Ken eventually tried to find an identity outside Barbie. In other movies, women never go on to find any purpose, just another man. Except in movies by women like the Color Purple and Mean Girls.