Is England's hooligan culture dead? | Times Reports
As thousands of English football fans travel to Germany for the European Championships, The Times reports from Gelsenkirchen to find out if the 'English disease' still exists.
The local authorities have ordered stadiums to serve only weak beer or shandy and have barred fans from drinking in the stands.
This week trouble had flared outside a restaurant in Gelsenkirchen and video on social media showed tables, chairs and bottles being thrown before riot officers arrived.
German police said a group of Serbia fans were eating inside when a large group of England fans tried to get in. Eight people were arrested and one fan was taken to hospital with a head injury.
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Is English hooligan culture dead? Let us know in the comments 👇
@Hannah-wy1jf
Ай бұрын
A big YES people are living in the past, and its almost like they want English fans to kick off just to point the finger.
@KarthikRajendran-sb4yo
Ай бұрын
Well,more gays and lesbians , weakened the manly spirit 😂😂😂
@waynenash6008
Ай бұрын
Its been dead since 1990, catch up
@markgreet3543
Ай бұрын
@@Hannah-wy1jf never trouble free, but media like to shitstir.
@markgreet3543
Ай бұрын
@@waynenash6008 football is the best sport, theres very little trouble nowdays just hype.
It died ages ago, we just like to drink sing and make friends these days.
@Oldhamfyc
13 күн бұрын
Not dead mate
@benbirch1497
Күн бұрын
Not mainstream at all. No high profile incidents these days compared to yesteryear. @@Oldhamfyc
Our hooligans are chilling in their slippers on their pensions!🏴
@EpicAelflaed
12 күн бұрын
They did their bit to put us on the map 😂
We are More Worried About Muslim Grooming Gang's , in The UK 🏴🏴🇮🇪🏴
@BOZ_11
Ай бұрын
stop reading the daily mail
@user-we1sv5ud3h
Ай бұрын
21 white english people convicted of peadophilia just the other day in the west midlands but go on
@consig1iere294
Ай бұрын
@BOZ_11 That is all these people have. Why take away the hate from them? What are they gonna live for? Get a Phd?
@dattatrayalimaye2756
Ай бұрын
But they are not grooming gang members ..kids are safer with them than pro Hamas folks.. I am Indian myself so no you calling me racist won't work..
@JohnSarks
Ай бұрын
@@BOZ_11 Didn't you hear about the grooming gangs all over the uk? The authorities covered it up for years. Its well documented. You probably didn't see it on the bbc.
In the 70s/80s everyone was into hooliganism.Todays youth are happy to sit behind a computer screen playing game.They do not have the same intent. So as the culture dies out the originals are pushing 60 or older now. The banning orders and cc cameras was also a big factor. For the uk I think you will always see bits of trouble but nothing like in the past. Most of these countries came to the sceen way after the English has packed in.
@lewismartin4306
Ай бұрын
Thanks police state
@Thai.Farang
3 күн бұрын
Your spelling and grammar is horrific
Yes about 20 years.the oldschool fans from the 90‘s are too old
@MrChristbait
29 күн бұрын
90's? Our hooligans were 70's and 80's!
@JD-hx7yd
22 күн бұрын
@@MrChristbait but that 90s was the last real generation of hooligans.
@IanGarstang-kb9lu
17 күн бұрын
3000 English fans were banned from travelling to Germany.
@user-vy5pv8tk8u
12 күн бұрын
💯🍻@@JD-hx7yd
@Combat-Mindset
11 күн бұрын
@@IanGarstang-kb9lu But not the old school. These 3000 are just drunktards nowadays.
Most of times England provoked ....
@harrovian2009
Ай бұрын
This is your British values. And their was a protest earlier in the month for British values . This is it.
@HaleyChain-vw8rr
Ай бұрын
Excuses Excuses
@hannamontana3
20 күн бұрын
Wait....didnt Amsterdam have a problem with english tourism
@AaronHadden-q8q
17 күн бұрын
Yesssss. 😂 we like to have a drink. Have fun but if a confrontation happens English don't back down 😂
Culture? Or a lack of it?
@luigicirelli2583
Ай бұрын
english, all the UK natives, have the best culture; why would people illegally immigrate there otherwise? is that good a culture
@santhanaraj5863
18 күн бұрын
@luigicirelli2583 English culture that is too good and tolerant .. that they're now being bullied by everyone!!
Hooliganism died 30 years ago in England
@markgreet3543
Ай бұрын
Still a few issues, but far less than the bad old days.
@harrovian2009
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 delusional. You must be on cocaine.
@harrovian2009
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You must be on cocaine.
@Fritz973
Ай бұрын
Premier league start in 92 and it was all but over, little bursts at France 98 and Euro 2020 but very little else on the level that it was at.
@Oldhamfyc
13 күн бұрын
Goes off every week still
I am sure the real ones are not allowed to travel to Germany this summer.
that trouble there 2:46 was no England involved it was Albanians attacking Serbians
@stevasteva4982
19 күн бұрын
Nije tačno Englezi i nesto malo Albanaca je napalo Srbe i dobili batine od srba .noc pre toga Srbi su u grupicama tukli Engleze i uzeli 40+ zastava
You will never get rid of it all together, it is in English DNA to get drunk and fight, it happens every weekend in towns and cities all over England.
@kevingreene853
15 күн бұрын
It happens all over the world , I was in a small Spanish town a few weeks back on holiday away from the major tourist spots and kicked off twice outside a couple of bars so don’t get caught up it’s British thing mark my words it happens everywhere
@Combat-Mindset
11 күн бұрын
Dude that stuff happens everywhere!
Occasionally maybe but not to the extent it was before and that is actually a shame since they would bring us ordinary folks some breathing room with dealing with todays travellers from the channel
How tf is singing about WW2 offensive?😂 it happened and we can sing about it
@peter_meyer
Ай бұрын
Oh, so you ´d be OK with foreign team fans chanting about February 6th 1958 when playing Manchester?
@waynenash6008
Ай бұрын
Yeh, other English teams do
@Tymmy777
Ай бұрын
Even the yanks have the common sense not to sing chants about nuking japan. Only the russians are as obsessed with the second world war as you are and it shows.
@Andre-kc9di
Ай бұрын
@@peter_meyerlol what's that got to do with ww2 😂😂 🤡
@BROKENLIZARD983
23 күн бұрын
@@peter_meyer an accident and ending WW2 is a bit different mate. And even if that did make sense, no I wouldn’t mind I quite like free speech.
I had missed English Hooligans so much and England flag is so beautiful for me.🥰😍🤗🙏✝
@BOZ_11
Ай бұрын
it's the flag of a Palestinian, but dont tell them that
@gunerashraf1634
Ай бұрын
If you ask me, what would I prefer between a "hooligan" and an Islamist? You can share a beer with the "hooligans", less so with the others. In this case, you choose which would be more agreeable.😂😂
More then 1600 English Hooligans had a travel ban for the european championships. So there was less violence.
Banning orders killed our hooligans..rest of Europe bk in 1990s😂
@Oldhamfyc
11 күн бұрын
@@robertwalker6023 were still very active just dont hear about it
German Team lives Rentfree in English Heads they still think we see them as Rivals.😂
"As a preventative measure the decision was made to sell low alcohol beer at the stadium". They must have had to import it especially for the game, no one in Germany had never previously ordered a low alcohol beer.
Islam has taken that mantle.
Those chants sound fun to chant in a group
@Andre-kc9di
Ай бұрын
That's what it's about
Think some people would like to see it kick off over there… well it sells news papers!!! 🤔 💭 … not the first little documentary on football fans by the Times … are people at the Times worried about their jobs no trouble nothing nasty to write… but maybe they could write something nice about us ENGLAND supporters and league fans … good luck tonight ENGLAND 🏴🇬🇧🏴
You get your lager louts and people will always hate us for being English as they did when England reached the Euro final so we’ll always be ambushed by some nation or another but largely the large fighting leagues of the 70s and 80s are a thing of the past in top flight English football. I saw this in a video where Real Madrid brought a large gang who were obviously walking through the back streets seeking a confrontation but the only people to oppose them were some women who they abused while standing in their back yards and the English Police had the audacity to reprimand the women. This would never have happened in the 80s as they would be met by a very aggressive mob. So yes it’s dead!
@Bueddenwarder-Aggerschnagger
Ай бұрын
No. We don't hate the English for being English, we dislike them for behaving the way they do.
I think we have in Germany a big Hooligan Problem. And East Europe is very aggressive Poland, Hungary, Croatia, Czech Republic, Bulgarian and Russian Hooligans. In Germany is i go alone to a Footballmatch without my son. Every City have a big Group of aggressive Ultras and Hooligans. This Year is the third League very dangerous. With Dynamo Dresden, Hansa Rostock, Alemannia Aachen und Energie Cottbus. In Germany are many Ultras and Hooligans are MMA Fighters and Kickboxer and fight very professional and don't drink alcohol and take drugs. The Situation is for families and normal a big Desaster. Nice Greet from Germany. 🇩🇪
@manuelwerner1546
19 күн бұрын
@Lisaaaa9888We have a hooligan problem our Hools fight not for our Nationalteam our Hools fight against the DFB our Hools fighting for our City Club
@manuelwerner1546
16 күн бұрын
The German Fans are not welcome in England, Italy, France, Belgium and Spain. The most English Supporter's drink to much alcohol. The Fans von West Ham United the popular „GSE " run and don't want fight with Eintracht Frankfurt. We have in our 3.Liga better Hooligans and Fighters as England in the Premier League. I hate football and crime. I want to go with my son to the stadium and enjoy the football match. Hooligans and Ultras destroy our Football and i hated that is not good. It's my opinion. Love football love support and hate violence and crime.
So uncivilized
Such a great day to be in Frankfort and enjoying English fans chanting, having fun, being respectful and just good company and entertainment, easy to talk to... And as a German I have to say 😂 sorry Scotland first of all Scotland get battered just has the best tune and second your fans are just too hard to understand.
Just attacked scarves fans ..and got repelled by office workers 🤣
The casual scene is still about
It was chaotically violent in the 70's, organised and nasty in the 80's, continuing into the 90's, rhen steadily calming down since, other than a little uplift post pandemic when bored teenagers had a go.
Millwall could not stop us, but our 20 cigs a day habit did😢
Passionate and well behave in 2006? No, you are wrong! Watch documentary about hooliganism in that world cup and the worst outbreaks of violence were caused or involved English fans.
If it were around now, they'd be blaming hillsborough and heysel on immigrants lool
There were over 2,000 banning orders enforced for these Euros. Imagine asking that question if these 2,000 had got over there.
@Combat-Mindset
11 күн бұрын
No real tough guys anymore among english hooligans.
It died because of social media and camera phones… obviously Football Factory and Green Street made it mainstream.. with all combining factors resulted in its downfall.
Doctors and engineers in their spare time , most of them
@BOZ_11
Ай бұрын
hahahaha. u made me laugh
@dattatrayalimaye2756
Ай бұрын
But they are not grooming gang members ..kids are safer with them than pro Hamas folks.. I am Indian myself so no you calling me racist won't work..
@BOZ_11
Ай бұрын
@@dattatrayalimaye2756 Indians are pro genocide and are volunteering for places in the IDF; but I'm sure the anti-genocide protestors are a criminal bunch 😂😂😂😂
The mighty Russia fans buried them in France
@JJJ-ok7nc
Ай бұрын
lol, they really did.
@mrannonymous4822
Ай бұрын
Uraaaaa 😂
@SJKWHU
Ай бұрын
Jackanory. Russia not won much in any format, especially wars. Bunch of absolute divs.
@Dan-lg4bs
Ай бұрын
Yeah after English hooliganism was dead it died after euro 2000. The Russians attacked normal fans having a drink, funny how they never tried it in the 70’s-90’s isn’t it?
@ivanexell-uz4mv
Ай бұрын
L Russia being banned. Deserved
Snow flake fans now , lads working in offices 😂
@Stephen-lx9nm
Ай бұрын
Middle class sport now
@Stephen-lx9nm
Ай бұрын
Middle class sport now
@Stephen-lx9nm
Ай бұрын
Middle class sport now
If all the media can drag up is so say GROSSLY offensive songs , there is obviously no violence / fights etc etc to report on , even though it’s not clever to sing offensive songs it seems like it actually offends our media more than the Germans itself ,
Lost our best fans there all banned 🤣
because it's not an english team
It's not dead. It's part of football culture and folklore.
hooligan NEVER DEAD, NEVER STOP
Seen some fans in east europe still wearing doc martins,bleached jeans and listening to sham 69
@sirapos6550
11 күн бұрын
sham69 ffs !!!
German Bombers , grossly offensive ? FFS , Its a bloody nursery rhyme
England get batterd by everyone these days ..the England fans in the 80s would never be batterd ?
Heard and saw some stuff in benedorm so see what would need to be avoided and not provoked
Hooligans are dying out definitely. There still are some but most fans now just want a good piss up and a laugh with mates.
@wor53lg50
16 күн бұрын
They're preparing for the real cause, which is gonna be biblical and make history...
joke ! call this new generation hooligans
Now they want ... families too go games game tax them rather than have lads who wanna good piss up and a tear up....thats all it is
Smart phones happened😮
It's in the channel oldson
Singing songs about the battle of Britain is now 'racist'?
@ArmandoBellagio
16 күн бұрын
Not fascist, but provocative for sure. Why always bring up WW2 during football games? It's like they have nothing else going on for them...but ok, the last time England won something in football was back in '66. So maybe that's why
English hooligans have respect like usa national footbal team 😂
Its alive and well in the british police and government.
since 21 wembley???
Only about 30 years ago. Call yourselves journalists 😂😂
It isn't dead just sleeping......🚬😎
@gunerashraf1634
Ай бұрын
People are preoccupied with something else now, the cost of living has increased 2-3 times in the last decade, plus there are problems forced by "multiculturalism", which have almost eliminated the white-English from the big cities. The real English can still be found only in rural areas.😂🇬🇧✌️
Been dead for 20 years.
The more people are oppressed and driven to poverty no.
Are you joking?
Yes It should be long time ago ...Daaah !!!!
Russia fans buried ex England's hoologan in Russia 2018 and recently in France.. :D
Vote reform......there is a different enemy within
Потерять Знамя - это потерять 1.000 человек а вы свои знамёна ради кружки пива потеряли и убежали
Come too England and have it .....🚬😎👌
Dega el poderoso. Todavía. El todo ermosillo
what else do they have in there life!
Serbia ended it here in germany
@Guitarpeacepic
Ай бұрын
Ended what? They were fighting between themselves first and then got arrested.
@jeffmackie547
Ай бұрын
All trouble came from the hooligan Serbs
@djordjedjuricic3879
Ай бұрын
@@jeffmackie547 they were sitting in a serbian pub ,then albos and brits attacked them in their pub and then run like cowards ahahahah
@jeffmackie547
Ай бұрын
@@djordjedjuricic3879 That's rubbish and you know it. Serb thugs were arrested
@vukaleksic1654
Ай бұрын
@@jeffmackie547No they not..Albanians are arrested bc they atacked serbian fans in serbian box and run away like girls but police menage to arrest them
The drink is not the problem, irish drink a lot to.
Nooooo 😢
English Hooligans were a myth. Posturing and throwing a few beer bottles. Only real British hooligans abroad were Rangers fans.
Gammons of the world unite
The Russians ended it in Marseilles
if you English really like Ware come over to the Dutch Side we Give You ware
@waynenash6008
Ай бұрын
We have been to the Dutch side, and the only ,,ware,, you gave us, was ware are the fuckin dutch
@kevinwallace962
Ай бұрын
@@waynenash6008 Ware ! 🤣🤣
@MarkBishop-rt3zl
Ай бұрын
England are certainly allergic to silver'ware.
A lot of em went for the safe effective stops transmission fully tested lowers testosterone.
Er, no.
Avanti hooligans inglese
Favourites ...???
Yes
CAM ON INGERLAND
The English fans ran faster than the English forwards.
Yes it is abroad anyway ...its a case of travel bans and the fact that most of us are grandads now 😅.....also english football culture abroad has changed unfortunately though because of past events so called ultras from wherever seem to think otherwise and are sadly at times taking liberties....i can assure you they would not be if England had a proper old skool firm from the eighties out there ...i e...the i.c.f., zulus, bushwhackers ,657, the list was endless....🏴
Ultras Is real culture in Europe
Сколько вы знамён потеряли Знамя потерять это Дивизии или полк потерять
This is a kindergarten brawl compared to India and Pakistan cricket post game street fights. Some kind of war is declared using fireworks, arson, and violent beatings
Tories and Labour are two heads of the same monster. Save the UK, vote reform 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧
1:08
They are peaceful after meeting the Serbs 😂
@Jack-jz5kt
Ай бұрын
But it wasn’t England fans fighting with the Serbs they was fighting with themselves and a few Albanians lol
@bgdabg6769
Ай бұрын
@@Jack-jz5kt You're wrong
@Jack-jz5kt
Ай бұрын
@@bgdabg6769 I’m actually not lol the media says it was England fans if you watch interviews of people who was there no england fans were involved 😂 some of the England fans were watching
@bgdabg6769
Ай бұрын
@@Jack-jz5kt Go live your life in media and leave others alone, ok? Out of media... English fans, together with Albanians were attacking Serbs in fight you want to talk about. There were injured English fans a lot. You can find them even in your media, same as pics of England stuff they were wearing, or tattoos of English clubs. My point is that they were suffering in many more occasions than those from media.
@Jack-jz5kt
Ай бұрын
@@bgdabg6769 bro ur talking gibberish u can’t see none of that in any of the videos seems like ur the one living life in the media it was clearly Albanians and English fans were videoing it and the guy who was injured was wearing a black coat how can u tell he was English? lol
Are they taking the piss.😂
Invitamos a dar un like alejandro lechuga music gracias amigos y cantsr en la final. Imagina walk
Hello
As an English man who has been going the match since the 80s.yes we are an embarrassment.The rest of Europe have overtaken us.
England fans 6 pints equals fight.......Scotland fans ....dance, laugh, respect, Germans love us, Swiss fans want to party with us....I can go on
@henkmagnetic3103
Ай бұрын
@dscott1392 - Go Scotland! Go Scots! Wonder what future for UUK (Un-United Kingdom)? Cheers, enjoy.
@guywarrior7834
Ай бұрын
Glasgow rangers. 🇬🇧🇬🇧
@mickw3952
Ай бұрын
More Scottish than English arrests in Germany, doesn't suit the media though.
@Andre-kc9di
Ай бұрын
How's your freedom going 😂😂😂😂 🏴 🤡
No. When these gentlemen are abroad they do what they are famous for. Getting drunk, fighting and causing trouble. Nothing new from that beautiful country.
@callumhughes6448
Ай бұрын
When has there bin any trouble from any English fans in the last 20 years. Other than france in 2016. But English fans were provoked in that incident so name me another time when English fans started trouble in the last 20 years and do not bring up the euro final in 2021. Where people jumped the fences the exact same thing happened in the Champions League final in 2022.
It was a bit difficult for them in the last two World Cups, being in Russia and Qatar. Repressive regimes prevent it...
@user-eu8pe5jy2t
Ай бұрын
can't imagine this sort is going to be any more willing in 2026. as hard as these boys think they are they definitely won't like county jail in america. it's a bit different than the drunk pen in benidorm
@user-jn6td3cp2n
Ай бұрын
Do you remember how Russian hooligans smashed English hooligans at Euro 2016 in France?)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYaj0qSwdqnLYMY.html
@xodus_sys
Ай бұрын
Repressive regimes never got such a great compliment...
@dattatrayalimaye2756
Ай бұрын
But they are not grooming gang members ..kids are safer with them than pro Hamas folks.. I am Indian myself so no you calling me racist won't work..
@rewdwarf123
Ай бұрын
Absolutely no relation to my post..@@dattatrayalimaye2756
super cringe!
Что оно этооооо. Какая ДЕГРАДАЦИЯ.🤡😱😴🤒🤕🤢☻😷😴😫👿👹👺💀☻☠☠☠☠☠👻☻
Invitamos a dar un like. Alejandro lechuga music. Todo a. Sido. Felecidad. WALK.
Nema prevoda na srpski.
Nothing says failed attachments and social and economic inequity quite like mixing nationalism, alcohol, and competitive sport. Shocking really that Europe has learned so very little two millennia after those revolting Roman chariot races. I think teams (and managers) should be randomly drawn from qualifying players (preferably all amateurs) and we can be done with this noxious nationalistic vicarious war-making masquerading as sport but designed to distract folks from root causes. Absolutely shameful!
@Andre-kc9di
Ай бұрын
😂 you liked your own comment 😂 ,🤡