Omg hi, I'm ravenfaerie(now oceansoulart) lmao. This video was very well put with a lot of valid points. I 100% believe Diaval is in love with her. The first Maleficent novel hinted, and the new Maleficent book called Heart of The Moors confirmed that. Even Sam Riley confirmed that he loves her in a recent interview

@joyholmes254

4 жыл бұрын

Coffee Cat I saw that interview! In another, an interviewer asked him if he thought about what the characters were doing in the years between the end of the first and the beginning of the second when he was going into shooting the second and he admitted that he did. He said that he wondered if Diaval was still her servant and if she had noticed him yet. Safe to say that Sam is 100% all for their characters to be in a relationship

@CoffeeCatIris

4 жыл бұрын

@@joyholmes254 I'll believe his words because who know's the character better than the person who plays that character? haha. Him and Angie are totally a Maleval shipper and I love it.

@imjustlucy_29

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I follow you on Tumblr. Who would’ve thought? We even chatted about a fan art😅 I’m musicmoviefangirl.

@CoffeeCatIris

4 жыл бұрын

@@imjustlucy_29 I'm so happy you made this video! I hope it blows up so one of the staff's who worked on Maleficent can see this and let the director know we love Maleval lol

@saharasatori7590

4 жыл бұрын

wait where can i read those books?

I DIED in MALEFECENT 2 BECUASE MALEFICENT SAID "i missed you" TO DIAVAL I WAS SO CUTEEEEE

@ralu7561

4 жыл бұрын

did she pock her head

@Pluto_00

4 жыл бұрын

Mister Doggy Films Same me to

@bellsiesss

3 жыл бұрын

Even heartless Maleficent had something nice to say to Diaval because he saved everyone as risked his own life.

In Maleficent: Mistress of Evil, at the wedding of Aurora, he looks at her and she looks at him and he looks away and there is that little bit of romance. I died

@estherestia590

4 жыл бұрын

SAME OMGGG

@FanyusAnonymous

4 жыл бұрын

Hey!☆ if someone starts a petition for them to get together I will advertise it like crazy. Unfortunately, I can't make one for various reasons, but I really love Diaval and my little fan girl heart will die If my birdie isn't happy xD

@AVRAfailed

3 жыл бұрын

@@FanyusAnonymous I definetly also will die if my birdie isn't happy L.O.L.

@thatskykid342

Жыл бұрын

Also WHEN THE PART WHERE THEY LOOKED AT EACH OTHER, (WEDDING) AURORA IS LOOKING AT PHILIP TOO MEANING THEY'RE BOTH LOOKING AT THE PERSON THEY LOVE AACKKKK 😭😭🤩🤩🤩🤍🤍🤍😍😍

I think they would be a good couple

@guitarmeow1980

4 жыл бұрын

::BreeDraw’s:: I agree😂🥰

@koda_7054

4 жыл бұрын

They act like it off set and on set soo yea plus we can all kinda see that Diaval has a small little crush on her plus in the script they were gonna add something about them having a little romantic tension between them but they never added that part for some reason

@xalizaconfused12x98

4 жыл бұрын

Ah~ imagine them flying through the clouds together 😍

@xalizaconfused12x98

4 жыл бұрын

I discovered that they did 😂

I mean, he is one of the few who cares about her

@iigamer_simplylpanda8912

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

I ship them soooo much they have to end up together.

@idontcareaboutcanon9706

4 жыл бұрын

Saaaaaame

@ma.cristinafucio2650

4 жыл бұрын

Agree

@madisonnn7697

4 жыл бұрын

Multi Shipper agree

@seaturtlesrcute

4 жыл бұрын

hell to the YES

@seaturtlesrcute

4 жыл бұрын

@@FanyusAnonymous 1. ? 2. ? 3. ???????

There’s a part in the movie where he’s standing awfully close to her. When they deliver Phillip to the palace and drop him in front of the door, you can see them hiding so the pixies won’t see them and he’s standing right in front of her. I can’t see Maleficent letting anyone stand that close to her, but she lets him do it. Even when she brought Aurora to the Moors for the first time and she got a little too close, she ended up putting her to sleep. But Diaval was literally standing almost cheek to cheek with her. He didn’t have to be that close, he could have stood beside her against the wall, but he didn’t.

@imjustlucy_29

4 жыл бұрын

Good eye. I didn't notice that.

@joyholmes254

4 жыл бұрын

I'm Just Lucy I noticed that for the first time the other day when it came on TV

@thethirdbesthufflepuff9056

4 жыл бұрын

i just watched the second part......now i want to watch the first one again

@MrackLord

21 күн бұрын

😂 она могла его вообще в мышь превратить))) но не сделала

Finally someone has said loudly what I have been thinking for 5 years. There’s more than a friendship bound between DEAVAL and MALEFICENT

@ma.cristinafucio2650

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's a love they couldn't realise at the beginning

@JustM4Rii

4 жыл бұрын

Nathalie CAPITAINE but they are real people and Angie said she isn’t comfortable kissing anyone yet

@madisonnn7697

4 жыл бұрын

itz Mari I guess we're going to be waiting till Maleficent 3

@JustM4Rii

4 жыл бұрын

Madison Davis OMG FR????

@sophiawahdan

Жыл бұрын

Yesss!

As far as I know, they were meant to be together in the script but they decided to focus on that mother and daughter relationship, Sam and Angelina themselves LOVE the ship and want them to marry or something by the third movie tho, so don't lose hopes, dear fandom!

@dianagardo4150

2 жыл бұрын

Really??? In the third one? If it is a third one jajaja... That maybe is going to happen?

@dibanhyvalladares2480

2 жыл бұрын

@@dianagardo4150 it’s not confirmed yet tho but in interviews they actually talk about a “third one”

@dianagardo4150

2 жыл бұрын

@@dibanhyvalladares2480 omfg I hope they are going to make a third one🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤❤️❤️that would be awesome!!!

@yournightmare4904

Жыл бұрын

My dear it's been a year and we still be waiting for the third one 😔😔

@deshomasho7206

Жыл бұрын

THERES GOING TO BE A THIRD MOVIEEEE

The moment when I realised Diaval was in love with Maleficent was after she woke Aurora and Diaval whispered: her true love’s kiss. He chuckled and smiled awkwardly. He looked happy for her and extremely sad at the same time

@theamericanyoutuber

3 жыл бұрын

Ow...

At the end of the first one during Aurora's coronation. Instead of looking at Aurora as she is being crowned, Diaval's eyes were on Maleficent. He was also looking at her that night when Aurora met Maleficent. She was put to 'sleep' and again Diaval looked at Maleficent as they walked away. Also they have matching rings.

When they meet Philip’s parents they come in and they look like the perfect couple. Like it or not not Maleficent loves him too. I just finished Heart of the moors today and it’s like they both love each other.

MALEFICENT 2.. "i missed you""did you bump your head?""i did" ARR THIS SCENE MAKE ME DIEE ... diaval is cutee

I love that there's an interview where they were an interview where Elle said “You killed my Dad!” referring to Maleficent and King Stefan, then Ms. Jolie said a statement saying “Yeah, and her(Aurora) father's a bird(referring to Diaval) now” And she's the mom 😍

@dibanhyvalladares2480

3 жыл бұрын

omg which one?? 🥺

@stephannypereira9449

3 жыл бұрын

😭😭

0:40 he briefly looks at her lips when they talk about true loves kiss 😍

@ryleeroc

3 жыл бұрын

yeaaahhh

@user-sy2pj8pf3j

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah 😍

let's remember that by that scene where aurora is playing in the mud, when Maleficent receives a shot of mud, EVERYONE is quiet and is actually shaking for how scared they are but Diaval is the only one that has the guts and CONFIDENCE to laugh so freely in front of her...old married couple, what can I say?

@nicholasgoeddeke8805

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I don’t ship em. Theres just a certain line between Diaval and Maleficent. Diaval has changed from a servant to a dear friend/companion but I think love is taking it a little bit to far. Just an opinion...

@oceanbell3376

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasgoeddeke8805 in an interview apparently the actor says himself the character is in love with Maleficent though

@dianagardo4150

2 жыл бұрын

@@oceanbell3376 I agree

This is late but in the 2nd movie right before the dinner scene, when they arrive and the king makes small talk but she talks it as insult, Diaval steps really close to her to calm her down. But that's not all. I hadn't noticed it before, but a servant was walking up to Maleficent to take her cloak, but Diaval shooed them away and Tok it off himself. Throughout both films he is very protective and doesn't let people invade her personal space as he knows that makes her feel uncomfortable, yet she lets him get that close. She trusts him completely.

There's actually a book about Maleficent, a novel version of the movie and believe me, Diaval certainly has a crush on Maleficent. I can't explain it because it's a little long but it has it in the novel and as a Maleval fan (Diaval and Maleficent) my shipping heart literally smiled with happiness :3 ♡♡♡ EDIT: FIND SAM RILEY'S INTERVIEW. He literally explained that Diaval is in love with Maleficent!!! MY SHIPPING HEART IS BURSTING WITH HAPPINESS!!

@CoffeeCatIris

4 жыл бұрын

Yasss that book is so full of Maleval

@Evar0se

4 жыл бұрын

whatsit called??

@CoffeeCatIris

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evar0se it's called Maleficent by Elizabeth Rudnick. There's another one called Heart of the Moors by Holly Black as well.

@Evar0se

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoffeeCatIris thanks!

@fatimagutierrezparedes5335

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoffeeCatIris hi! I tried to download the book but I can't find it. How did you do to read it?

3:53 *"She's looking right at him. But she can't see the love in his eyes."* ... damn.

If you didn’t realize in part two the dinner scene when maleficent said bird & delicious while looking at Diaval In away she have a thing for Diaval

@Leo18rodz

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, it was only cause' it was bird and he was an bird in real

@diavalx7639

4 жыл бұрын

Harley Quinn then why Maleficent says delicious while looking at him? Can you please explain that

@Leo18rodz

4 жыл бұрын

@@diavalx7639 Dumb? I explain it aigain. Cause' Diaval is a bird and they gave Maleficent and Diaval a bird to eat and she only wanted to told with "bird, delicious" how she hates it to be in the castle with all the humans and i think a little bit joking

@diavalx7639

4 жыл бұрын

• Freya • Ah Makes sense

Petition to make their connection more intimate on the third movie!!! that would hit fans harder than Philip's and Aurora's love!!

I can't get over the way he looks at her, and briefly glances at her lips every now and then, the hidden love is real :)

Alright here's gonna be some spoilers as I've watched Maleficent 2 over 10 times already. This ship still continues in the new one. Although the trailer of the movie doesn't show what happens when Diaval tells Maleficent about Aurora and Phillip getting engaged, he does say "please. stay calm" to Maleficent after she flies off and says "Don't ruin my morning." He also helps her learn her greeting when they go to visit Phillip's parents. As well as him walking past Maleficent and standing in front of her almost completely when Aurora comes to them about Maleficent wearing the scarf to dinner. As well as Maleficent saying "It's more than I can bare", he does a chuckle laugh, knowing she's lying. He as well stays very close with her when they cross the tree roots bridge to Ulstead (also saying "mhm" after Maleficent saying "Humans are hilarious" along with saying "it's getting better" and looking at Maleficent after she nods at some kids). He does look at her quite a lot still in the new one, but also help her out with the humans. As shown in the trailer of Diaval and Maleficent walking in to the dinner room to meet Phillip's parents, he does stay close to her and then go in front of her after Maleficent saying "why would I have trouble" and mentions small talk and explaining it later to her, also fixing her scarf too then speaking for her once he's done and goes back next to her. There's a lot more, but what really got me in the new one is Ingrith's cat shown following her but also at the dinner scene. When the cat comes onto the table and jumps to Diaval, Maleficent does use magic to freeze the cat as Diaval does jump and tilt towards Maleficent as well. I also saw someone mention somewhere in the comments here of Maleficent telling Diaval she missed him. As that is true, they as well both smile at each other throughout that dialogue. Lastly, at the wedding scene he does touch Maleficent's arm softly and tells her to let Aurora go. He also wipes away tears with his thumb when he looks at the two walk down the aisle. He also does it after Maleficent stands next to him. He does also look at Maleficent put her fingers to an eye to stop tears and does this mini laugh smile a bit. As well as Diaval looking at her again during the wedding scene, he mentions her smiling and they both exchange smiles, Maleficent showing a smile with teeth + fangs instead of the one she was doing. One more thing, there is a video of Angelina and Sam in their costumes of BTS of making Maleficent 2 where they both stop looking at each other after Angie does this gesture with her hand and does a face with hit. They look back at each other and Angie puts her hand up and stops looking at him again and they both smile (can find the video).

@Alexa-eo4tf

Жыл бұрын

I want to see the video. Send me a link please

I soooooo ship them! 💟❤💝 Even into the new movie their relationship seems to be so casual but you can't ignore that there is something there with them two, something deep.

The pet stroke and touch is very true in the second movie THEY SHOULD OF KISSED OR SOMETHIN

They act like it off set and on set soo yea plus we can all kinda see that Diaval has a small little crush on her plus in the script they were gonna add something about them having a little romantic tension between them but they never added that part for some reason

If they make a sequel and then pair her up with Borra instead of Diaval I'm gonna be so pissed !

They'll be so good couple please give their kiss at the third movie

In script it is in black and white, and also she in in love with Diaval AF ;) they are standing next to eachother and she grabs his hand and they struggles in their emotions:) ooo but I see you know the script also :)

@thethirdbesthufflepuff9056

4 жыл бұрын

when when whennnn did she grab his hand

@justalangusta260

4 жыл бұрын

In the original script. At the end :)

@thethirdbesthufflepuff9056

4 жыл бұрын

Justa Langusta ooooo.....so it wasnt a scene? huh....would have been a nice scene

@justalangusta260

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to find a Produktion Script Not a first version I read - different story, very different.

I ship them soooo muchh!! For me was cute,when Diaval was horse and Maleficent was riding him,i when she realize it was too late to Save Aurora,she putted her head on him. I don't care that he was horse,it was cute

Also, another point is just the way he looks at her in the scene before they go through the iron vines. Maleficent and Diaval lock eyes and neither look away until like 5 seconds later. There were in perfect sink with each other and were enjoying each other's company.

@bellsiesss

3 жыл бұрын

Another way I thought of was in the second movie when they are at the table and Maleficent saves Diaval from the cat. She saves him. Also she transforms him to get out of the castle and he jumps up, like he knows she will transform him because he trusts that she won’t leave him.

Theses two NEED to be a couple. I️ don’t care how it happens be it NEEDS to happen!!

Actually, your very first piece of proof is rather solid if ravens in the moors act like ravens in real life. Birds often get romantically and sexually frustrated if a human pets their back because it's a way that mated birds groom and bond. It's why professional bird caretakers most often pet the head if they pet their birds at all

@imjustlucy_29

2 жыл бұрын

I- I did not knew that.

@morganitegem5581

2 жыл бұрын

@@imjustlucy_29 I only know it because I tried for years to get my mom convinced I was able to care for a pet raven so I could teach it to say Nevermore at my uncle who hates Quothe the Raven

lol i wat this to happen plz hope they kiss at the third movie aahahaha

@dirtydiana623

4 жыл бұрын

I really ship them, however dunno what will happen now that maleficent is no longer alone.

@angelpalacios3170

4 жыл бұрын

@@dirtydiana623 what do you mean???

@dirtydiana623

4 жыл бұрын

@@angelpalacios3170 if you have seen the new 2nd movie you'd understand. Maleficent is not alone.

@thethirdbesthufflepuff9056

4 жыл бұрын

what if there isnt a third? i hope so tho...

@michellepaillet8092

4 жыл бұрын

Kiss? Never please. I like them together, they would be agood couple...but for me it doesn't fit to Maleficent's character to prove the love this way

Are there any fanfictions on Wattpad? I am coming Wattpad squad!!

I KNOW I KNOW IM REALLY LATE- this movie can out last year yes yes YES.... ughhhhh I ship them so much 🥺 they are like parents figures for Aurora and I love it! This ship needs more attention! Like they deserve people to cosplay as them like SERIOUSLY and they need more drawing on them! This ship needs more LOVE!!!

@nairaamira9556

2 жыл бұрын

no worries, I just found this fandom lately too *sobs* thought I was the only one but NAH I'm wronggg

I actually never even thought about it, but you make some very good points. Thank you Lucy for giving us a really nice video and a lot to think about! When I first saw this movie with the child going over the cliff I knew she wouldn't let her die because there is something about Maleficent. The only humans she seems to truly hate are the king who cut her wings off and of course more royalty in the second movie. She is far from a monster just broken and needs someone. I loved how Diaval even let Aurora pet him when she was small. Wanna Know One Thing: You notice how the further the first movie is and the second he seems to stay in human form a lot so I have a feeling she is starting to feel for Diaval.

If they get children they'll be looking pretty akward😂😂

@doctoroftheplague6260

4 жыл бұрын

And cute at the same time

@ronglin9169

4 жыл бұрын

they might have winged kids :>

@JustEdgeOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps a bunch of shape-shifters, who knows lol

@shizukagozen777

4 жыл бұрын

@@JustEdgeOfficial Why ? Diaval isn't a shape shifter so why would they have this power ?

@JustEdgeOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

@@shizukagozen777 He might not be a shapeshifter, but seeing as their children would be half-fairy, half-raven, their children might be.

Dieval definitely has that crush on her but what about her? - it's really seems like she is not in love even after years (thanks to the extraordinary performance of Angelina) she really seems that she is still broken.... Her smile looks brilliant but u can't deny that even after that bright smile u can see broken heart

Well I'll love to see them together ❤

When I saw the title I was like no way but after I watched it I was like ok yea he loves her

well... I saw that from the beggining. My favorite part is when she reunaites with her wings and Diaval sees it with the adoring look like she was the most beautiful thing he ever saw)))) (sorry for my english, it's not my native language)

I think it is possible. However I don't know if dival would tell her or act on his feelings as he probably knows about Stefan and doesn't want to make her uncomfortable and understands love is not what she wants

"she's looking right at him. but she can't see the love in his eyes" "she hated him for talking to her like that. hated him for making her feel guilty. yet if she hated him so much, why was she so upset to see him go?"

Diaval is 100 ％ love with you know who

I remember watching this in 3D at the theater

Pleassssss part 3😣😣😣😣

spoilers: a phoenix and her crow.

that is acually really good 😳✨

The whole video, I was like IKRRRR

I love them together😍😍

in the second movie, not only does it sound like he says misses instead of mistress the first time hes turned into a human, but maleficent also says she missed him

of course he love her...

The first film of maleficent I thought about this that their going to be a couple the scene that they both enter to the castle diaval said to maleficent makes me shivering hoping if maleficent having trilogy let them be together so that Aurora having a complete family

OK I M QUESTIONING WHOS SEE MALEFICENT 2HERE?!?!

@ralu7561

4 жыл бұрын

MEMEME

I haven't believed in these relationships before I watched it. Now I really can see that there is something between them.

I always Knew he loved her!😘 He was Very Sweet to her.😏Since The Scene they Know Each other,he's been Fascinated by her.😌Hosnetly and a litlle sad,she was The only being who loved him.🥵 He showed compassion !-Read saved his life.😭😭😭

Diaval was a way better lover than King Stefan imo!! Maleficent deserves so much better

For those curious, the background music is "All I Ask of You" from The Phantom of the Opera. Although i'd rather put Music of the Night for Maleval, because Raoul/Christine is such a terrible couple 😂

Strong agree. A queen and her consort. Good video. Great proofs.

Phantom of the Opera music plays in background.

Although people ship them, I can only see them as really close friends. However I don't mind that people ship them, everybody has his own opinion 😊

oh, look. it's matpat from game theory

@acecorazón

4 жыл бұрын

YESSSS LMAO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE the first time i ever looked at sam/diaval i just couldn't unsee matpat😂😂

@user-gt2bn5el2f

4 жыл бұрын

@@acecorazón no one can convince me that he is not matpat

Diaval would've treated her better than King Stefan I mean come on she even rode on him as a horse when they were trying to save Aurora

There is no problem, she can turn into a dragon and she can turn it into a dragon too, and they can make little dragon.

I started shipping them the moment he insisted on becoming her servant. Then, after watching the entire movie and all of the other couples? Diaval X Maleficent was my OTP and favorite ship.

Come on Man! If someone who looks like that was constantly copping a feel and smiling seductively, eventually it's gonna start something. Case in point: at 1:42 of this video I'm pretty sure he was saying "oh baby!' in Raven.

My favorite otp :')

Yeah so if they make a third movie if they don’t get married/get together I will literally riot the studio

OMG I LOVE CLIP

Thanks man i totally agree with it

Diaval must be in love…

i love the video although reason number three is not valid because about a year ago i was granted special access to the original script for the movie and i will say that it was in the script before they decided to rewrite the script for the movie due to the disliking of certain parts from the directors point if view. so sadly number 3 is inaccurate. how did i get access to it well my uncle is the CEO of one of the company's that helped make the movie.

Found the interview of where Sam Riley says they're like a bickering couple. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoWKxpSpfMe9kdY.html

@imjustlucy_29

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

If they were a couple, then I would want them to be a couple no kids thank you. Cause Aurora is the ultimate Child.

@whatreallymatters571

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah right? She basically threw the women who raised out and choose people who were insulting ML. Perfect daughter my butt. She never even spoke up for her through out the whole second movie.

You know what? I make roleplay in a maleficent team in Instagram . I'm maleficent in the tchat room . The boy who have the rolplay of Diaval,he wants to make a New ship '' Maleficent x Diaval '' 😂😂 ( So in the tchat room ,me like maleficent,i'm in relationship with...Aurora 😂 So i play Malora in the rolplay 😂😍

Absolutely.

I ship them so hard!!!

I'm asking myself the same.

do another one for mistress of evil!

@jaiwalker2820

3 жыл бұрын

yess!

I THOUGHT IM THE ONLY WHO SHIPS THEM TOGETHER 🤧😭

Phantom of the opera 2004 music!!

Am I the only one who has a crush on Diaval?

They would make a amazing couple

As a Hollywood movie lover in fantasy league . 1. Malfeicient 2. Beuty and the beast. 3. Oz the great and powerfull

Who doesn’t have romantic feelings for Angelina Jolie.

ITS THEHHEHE PETT AND STROKE FA MEE!!! LOL yes I think they most def have a romance going on and i want them to be a couple so bad!!!! XD

Can a Dark Fairy and a Raven fall in Love? My Mother tells me Love is not a Flower in the Garden of perfection. Its is a wild thing a Weed. The more it is stepped upon the stronger it returns. It is meant to breakout and Free itself of any who would try to impose Order upon it.And it cannot be denied forever....or for good.

Where I can watch maleficent 2?

Yes.

If they don't end up together

he loves her but she doesn’t love him.

As I see it, he may love her, at least he really admires her and cares about her. And she might like him, like a best friend. They've been together for long time, so it would be weird if there wasn't any relationship between them. But I dont want to make a real couple of them, it would ruin many of the basic imaginations about Maleficent

I guess you settled on turning him into a cockroach everybody needs love... are you serious this is part of the movie a lot of twists and turns I'd still watch maleficents little mystery and magic sounds like a love song 🌞👍

Ok, I see I'am the only one, who thinks Maleficent should be with Borra and not with Diaval. I think, they're just friends. (Borra is Fey in part 2). Before you say anything, check out a second part, please. 🔹🔹❤️❤️❤️❤️🔹🔹

👏👏👏👌👌👌🌟🌟🌟🌟

There in love 😂🤭😏😹💟💞💗💓💝💖💘🤟

Petting is normal wtf you tryna do ruin the movie?

Diabal y malefica

i ship Maleficent and Diaval . Ship name Dalfient

@shizukagozen777

4 жыл бұрын

Maleval sounds way better imo.

@imjustlucy_29

4 жыл бұрын

The ship name is actually Maleval.

@shizukagozen777

4 жыл бұрын

@@imjustlucy_29 If you're telling that to me, I actually didn't know it was the official ship name since it's been only one day since I've heard about people shipping Maleficient and Diaval (sorry but wtf...) and I have seen this name only once (but the name is quite easy to guess I think).

@imjustlucy_29

4 жыл бұрын

@@shizukagozen777 I was not replying to you but welcome to the fandom.

@shizukagozen777

4 жыл бұрын

@@imjustlucy_29 Oh, that's what I thought but I wanted to be clear anyway. Thank you but I'm not part of the fandom. ^^'