I've noticed A LOT of Bears fans in the comments with many different opinions, which is awesome! Really glad to see so many new people get involved in the community and discuss something they're passionate about. Healthy, respectful debate is always encouraged around here and I'm working to get involved in each discussion in the comments section to give my thoughts! I wanted to share my brief thoughts on the debate. I genuinely think the Bears could do no wrong at their current stage as long as they get either Caleb Williams or Marvin Harrison Jr. At that point, it really becomes a balancing act of what you prefer: (a) Caleb Williams + resetting the rookie contract window + whatever resources they get from trading fields; or (b) Keeping and paying Fields + whatever resources they get from trading #1 + whatever they lose from trading back into 3 to get MHJ (if they need to/want to). Both are great options, but what do I prefer? At this stage, I lean towards option (a). By taking Caleb, you reset the rookie window, allowing a bit more time to continue to build up the team around him without having to spend extra money on Fields. Although I have been vocal in real life supporting Fields in the past, I don't think I've made it clear on my channel so far that I believed heavily in Fields after year 1. However, I recognize that he has continued to struggle with some of the same weaknesses that he came into the NFL with. At times he shows flashes of being an unbelievable player, but he has yet to put it together consistently for someone who has played 35 games and it's risky attempting to hold out hope that he'll be able to do it in year 4 right before you have to decide on his 5th year option and then pay him long term. Also, this is a fantastic (and very deep) WR class, so taking Caleb doesn't eliminate the choice to get another great WR. Especially since the class is not super deep in some of the areas that the Bears need most (#2 CB, #2 Edge Rusher, IOL). I think the Bears are better off restarting the learning curve with a new QB, with a ton of upside, and grabbing 1 or 2 WRs from this really deep class and supplementing the depth of other positions in free agency and later in the draft. This is not to say that option (b) isn't also great, it's just my preference. MHJr and DJ Moore would be a nasty WR core for Fields and would significantly increase his margin for error. His rushing ability, plus Khalil Herbert and Roschon Johnson (a RB tandem I really like), will put LBs in flux and allow MHJr and DJ Moore to win over the top and in the intermediate areas of the field (if Fields can progress to the point where he's finding and hitting those throws in between the LBs and Safeties). Obviously, the extra resources from trading #1 would set them up down the line to add guys in future draft classes that are better stocked at positions the Bears need. Anyways, my main point is that I think the Bears are in a great spot and I'm excited to see what happens! I hope you guys appreciate the nuanced take and my relative preference of one over the other, rather than just choosing one thing and refusing to acknowledge the potential of both options. I'd love to hear if you guys agree, disagree, don't really have an opinion, or think I'm missing something. Also, I'm very fine with people insulting me or making valid criticisms- there are quite a few on this video and I appreciate all who brought great perspectives on some of the video's flaws. However, to some of the others, if you're going to disagree or insult the video/me, atleast watch the whole video / read this whole paragraph first so we can have a substantive discussion 😉(I kid, everyone is entitled to post what they want - that's what the internet is for!). Thanks for watching, sharing your thoughts, and supporting the channel!

@tccrypto8392

6 ай бұрын

What worries me about Caleb as a Bears fan is that many of his flaws are the same thing people say about Justin Fields and he didn't look very good against some of the top defenses that he went up against such as ND and Oregon.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

@@tccrypto8392 I would agree that he has some very similar flaws, but I'd counter that, by resetting the rookie window, you're now taking a guy who has those flaws and more time to improve them over a guy who has those flaws and has struggled to make consistent improvement on them if that makes sense. My counter is really more for the sake of discussion though as, like I said, I think sticking with Fields could be a very good option for them too!

@tccrypto8392

6 ай бұрын

I would agree that it makes financial sense to reset the QB clock. However, I get a bit nervous as a Bears fan as the last draft they did have the opportunity to take the 1st QB in the draft they traded up for Trubisky in a draft that had Patrick Mahomes and the rest has been bad Bears history. Not to mention if you take a look at the QBs that have gone #1 overall the last 20 years, most have been a disappointment or at bare minimum have never lived up to the hype of being a #1 overall pick.@@TheJumboPackage

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

@@tccrypto8392 Totally get that. Very much a risk! I also totally understand being nervous about it too lol - I'm a Jets fan and they haven't developed a QB like ever so it's hard to believe that the QB will actually hit their ceiling if taken. However, I think either way they'll be good and there is a lot to look forward to for the Bears! The Trubisky pick definitely hurts though! haha

@hasanshaikh4463

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage I’ve never been more torn as a Bear fan. While I don’t think we can go wrong either way, to Roll the dice and think JF will become elite bc we add MHJR, is a bit odd to me. He stinks the 4thQ. We lose so many close games. The agony…

I see more Josh Allen than I do Mahomes or Kyler. Caleb lowers his head and fights for yards similar to Josh Allen. Mahomes and Kyler both avoid contact as much as possible. He also has similar issues that Josh Allen had to overcome.

This is the best Caleb Williams scouting report on KZread currently

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, that really means a lot!

Hey, great eval! I'm a Chicago Bears fan (suffering through the years.😤) Starting my homework now and love your observations. Keep 'em coming!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!

Maybe I’m off but I don’t see Mahomes when I watch him I see Kyler Murray

@TheJay1979

6 ай бұрын

What??? He doesn't run like that at all.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

I see a lot of similarities to Kyler Murray’s game in general, which is why I loved Murray as a pro comp!

@TheJay1979

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage Kyler ran for 1,000 yards his last year in college. Caleb ran for 100. Lol

@SynN-FuL

6 ай бұрын

You're blind my guy

@dreate780

6 ай бұрын

Why don't you show how many times he has shit the bed, against good teams.

As a Bears fan. Give me Williams he would fit in so nice

Remember how everyone saying Bryce Young was THE quarterback in the 2023 draft. Not a single first overall pick QB has won a superbowl since Payton Manning. That was a very long time ago. A top QB could get you wins but its a total team that gets you championships. The bears should just trade the pick again for even a bigger haul to rebuild their team

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

I would definitely agree that it's not just the QB who wins the championship, but I would push back against you a little bit in that I think the QB has a lot to do with a team's ability to get in position to win a championship in the first place. Great point about #1 picks though! Very hard to evaluate how these guys will pan out (Look at Brock Purdy!). Thanks for watching!

@richmargin6082

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage yes. Everyone is saying that purdy is on a very good team and that is the reason why he us doing well. But jimmy goropollo and trey lance was on the same team too but they NEVER played as well as Purdy. Very hard to evaluate QBs. I thought CJ Stroud was gonna be a bust cause he had the worst QB IQ test. But he is awesome! All i know is that marvin harison jr is a freak generational talent. No one is saying that about caleb Williams.

@lesontime

6 ай бұрын

Matt Stafford was first overall and won just recently

@richmargin6082

6 ай бұрын

@@lesontime this is true!! I forgot to mention a QB who was picked #1 overall AND won a championship with the team that picked him. We are assuming that if the Bears pick Caleb Williams and he wins a championship, that he is winning it as a Bear. I could see the Bears getting Caleb but they really need to fix the line. No QB is gonna do well behind that line. Plus they would miss out on MHJ then. And its a very good chance that he will be a top WR in the league. Imagine the reaction of the Bears fans if MHJ becomes the best WR in the league and hall of famer. Physically he is bigger than his dad. They also need a new offensive coordinator

@GG-cq3yh

4 ай бұрын

@@richmargin6082 we'll see on Harrison. Plenty of "generational" talents bust out. No guarantees. Garropollo also made a SB, pre McCaffrey.

I appreciate the objective, unbiased assessment. Hope you'll do one for Jayden Daniels soon!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it! Hoping to have a Jayden Daniels one out soon!

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

Daniels vid is now out- lemme know what ya think!

Great breakdown, I need to see more under center play... but over all he looks legit. Nice work.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Agreed on the point about working under center. Thank you, I appreciate it!

Amazing breakdown and details on each take! You gained a subscriber! Look forward for future content 💯.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that! Can't wait to talk ball with you in the future on this channel!

BEST ANAYLIS OF CW!! THANK YOU!

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Good Insight with videos to show off your points, really well done video. Would love to see a continuation of these in a series with the other top prospects in the draft, You earned a sub! Thank you! :)

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! Will be having more videos coming out soon!

Great video man I love it

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you- means a lot!

I see a more Aaron Rodgers than anything else. He does little stuff like Aaron. As a bears fan, I wish our fan base and would keep an open mind on our situation. We should be happy about this!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Definitely agreed about keeping an open mind - if you see my pinned comment I talk about how I feel like they're in a situation where they can almost do no wrong. Definitely agree that I see some Rodgers in his game as well. Thanks for watching!

@Vincemasta100

5 ай бұрын

As a bears fan I agree! We have the no 1 pick now, poles better make the right call here rather than listening to this fan base

@wentzr

5 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackagebears will figure out a way to screw this situation up. As a lifetime fan since the 70s im telling you so you wont be so disappointed

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

@@wentzr Haha, I'm a Jets fan so I'm never disappointed - I always expect disappointment so I won't be surprised 🤣

Phenomenal report, thank you!!!

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it!

I certainly don’t see generational talent. Looks like a solid NFL starter but not a guy who is the reason his team is always vying for playoff success

Subbed, loved your assessment on him. I honestly believe he played hero ball so much because he had the worst defense in college and they couldn't stop anyone

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that! Very possible. I’m curious to see if he’ll take the Mahomes path and cool it with the hero ball stuff a bit more once he gets into the NFL!

Just subscribed, I love this breakdown, I agree with you in the way people view him, I feel that most people online have a set opinion on him and judge him unfairly. I think he has very minor flaws but will be able to clean it up in the NFL, can’t wait to watch him!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for subscribing, I really appreciate it! I also agree - some people have hard set opinions for or against him without being able to just take a step back and look at his strengths and weaknesses as a whole.

Bears fan here…I’ve watched virtually EVERY scouting video on CW13 and this one’s the best! JF1 was my fav player, but you changed that. Immaculate breakdown.

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, that means a lot to me! I think Justin Fields still has a ton of upside, but I think the decision to move on from him shows just how good of a prospect Caleb Williams is. As an NFL fan, I'm super excited to see him with the Bears and all the new weapons they've brought in!

Would love to see a Jayden Daniels breakdown - maybe the biggest riser over the last season would like to see your take on how he'll translate to the NFL.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Glad you’re looking forward to it! I’ve watched the film I have of him, but it’s very early season tape and I want to see some of the later stuff. Need to wait for the all-22. Once I have it, I’ll be making a video!

@dmvbay2535

5 ай бұрын

Daniels has the best deep ball in the Draft (per Analytics) and has great field awareness and tremendous wheels. He is much further along than Lamar was when Lamar was drafted but as we see Lamar continue to shine as he has so far this year, it can only make the stock of Daniels rise as we approach Draft day.

@0xSpiff

5 ай бұрын

@@dmvbay2535 agreed the tough part though, is how safely can u project Daniels to improve his game the way Lamar has in every aspect? It's what has made him great at the level NFL

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

@@0xSpiff That's always the most difficult part with any evaluation - as an outside observer we don't know much about these guys as human beings. We don't know their capacity to learn, their willingness to learn, and how quick they can pick up complex concepts and implement them. So many of the greats are guys who are motivated by the desire to keep getting better, so hopefully that will be him and every other QB in this draft!

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

Jayden Daniels video is out now- Would love to hear your thoughts!

Amazing video sir .

@TheJumboPackage

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Curious as to where you get your game footage from, since it doesn’t appear to be televised footage. Great vid btw!

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that! Its all-22 footage offered by some people on patreon. I'm not entirely sure how they get the footage tbh and I think that's why people don't very loosely throw around their names, but if you do a google search for a few minutes they'll come up haha

I think what makes Williams short coming more of a big deal than just nitpicks is many of those short comings have to be trained out and fixed as early as possible by good NFL coaching which I doubt he will find being a top 3 pick and if he has any lack of passion for football he may not be driven enough to reinvent himself for NFL style football. He's clearly very athletic and could be a very dangerous QB but I think if he doesnt have good coaches around him (which is most likely going to be the case) he will be the next Justin Fields or especially Zach Wilson who was very athletic and talented in college but didnt transition to the pros very well and his confidence has never recovered and he plays like he's terrified and over thinks everything. Also seeing how good CJ Stroud has been this year shows that throwing with anticipation is the most important QB skill at the NFL level. Williams really only throws to wide open dudes which will almost never happen in the pros, so he is gonna turn into Justin Fields 2.0 holding on to the ball for too long getting sacked waiting for guys to be wide open. Whereas CJ Stroud releases the ball before guys have even made their cut. That is the only way to survive as a rookie QB in totals NFL and with how much Williams plays a run and gun style I think he will struggle to change his playing style to be able to throw with anticipation more often than not instead of running a scramble drill offense.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Very possible! That's the unfortunate balance that needs to be struck to create a successful QB: good coaching combined with a coachable player who is willing to learn. Harder to find than it seems because of all the tiny factors that go into it (personalities, learning styles, surrounding situation, etc). I think you have some legitimate concerns, but I have a bit more faith than you do that his problems will be fixed in the NFL. But we both agree they need to be fixed!

He misses a lot more reads than you think. Youve automatically assumed theyre turned down... thats not necessarily the case. The other factor, and its one crippling Bryce Young, is that your pockets have much less space in the NFL. Meaning defenders will close off a lot of those last second launches to the middle.

Alright, who's here after the Bears got beat by the Packers? Love Fields, but I have a feeling the FO is drafting a QB at 1 this year. I might as well enjoy the ride.

I mean I don’t watch a lot of college football, just watch his clips basically, but when they said this guy is one in a generation, I was like he scrambles way too much sometimes even runs 20 yards back like he’s playing Madden.

Wonderful!!! Can you do one on Jayden Daniels, Michael Pennix Jr., and Bo Nix!?

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Definitely will - Working on it as we speak!

The real question is who would you rather have: Williams or Justin Fields + a ton of extra picks. I’d rather keep fields and flip #1 overall for a ton of picks

@TB17-

6 ай бұрын

caleb and a 2nd and 4th or something like that that you get for fields.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

At the moment, I’d rather have Caleb for the contract reset and the rookie window restarting. You have a few years to bring him along on a cheap deal and surround him with talent, whereas with Fields you need to pay him soon. I think Caleb also has a higher ceiling at the moment, given what we’ve seen from Fields. I don’t really hate either decision!

@Icebgriz

6 ай бұрын

I rather have Caleb

@Kentuckybearsfan

6 ай бұрын

Would you rather have a potential great QB or a shitty one and some extra draft picks?

@anthonygreen127

6 ай бұрын

Reset the QB contract Bring in another rookie Watch him get wrecked because bears fans forget the rest of the squad is hot garbage See him keep and develop bad habits watch the window flow away because current talent ages Reset roster again, and need new QB because in 3-4 years you'll hate this one and cry about how much he sucks. Go back to the top and repeat cycle. The bears will ruin Caleb Williams

Great video bro. I’m sending this to the Falcons

@TheJumboPackage

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Great and informative breakdown. As a Bears fan, I'd love to get your breakdown of Justin Fields, compared to Williams and Maye (especially if you've studied Fields in college). Based on your assessment of Williams and Maye, it sounds like they have a lot of similar issues that Fields had/has (footwork, not seeing open receivers sometimes, etc) - and I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on if you believe either Williams or Maye show clear signs of being significantly better in the NFL than Fields.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! Honestly, I wish I could provide that type of assessment, but I didn't scout Fields coming out of college so it would be difficult for me to give you a substantive answer without just making something up for the sake of giving an answer. From what I've seen from Fields in the NFL, I'd agree that it's a lot of the same issues w/these prospects + the fact that he still makes a lot of the same mistakes (e.g., missing open receivers, holding the ball too long, struggling to make it through his reads at times, inconsistent accuracy) after three seasons. He shows some incredible flashes of playmaking ability and accuracy so it's not impossible for him to be "the guy" for Chicago, but it's concerning that he hasn't been able to polish up his game in the 35 games he's played in the NFL. I was a pretty big believer in Fields after year one, so I still see the same upside in him - it's really more the fact that he's going into year 4 and making some of the same mistakes that concerns me about his future. Let me know if you agree or disagree!

@WarriorsRespiteTherapy

6 ай бұрын

Switch teams

@KierstenWhite-ww2vf

4 ай бұрын

While I really like Fields, his ability to make anticipatory throws is far worse than Williams. Also, William's ablility to feel pressure in the pocket and respond is significantly better than Fields. Also, while Fields makes some really athletic moves to extend plays, William's comfort and movement in the pocket is much more natural, and buys time more consistnetly. That, and the fact that William's release is SO much faster than Fields make this comparison really difficult for Fields to match up. Realize that Field's best year, he had 41 touchdowns, but still only threw for 3200 yards (233 per game). That is a crazy amount of TD's for yards that low. Williams had 4600 yards last yr when he played 14 games, and 3600 with 12 games this year. Fields is never going to average much over 200 yards in the NFL. It is not realistic that his stats will get better than they were in college. Williams averaged over 325 last yr, and 302 this year.

Excellent thorough evaluation, well done.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that!

I just want to say thank you for this video and the one on Drake Maye. I’ve watched both several times. They were both very helpful to me. So I know it’s a lot of work you put in to make these videos, but I was wondering/hoping you might do ones on Olu Fashanu, Joe Alt, Marvin Harrison Jr., Michael Penix Jr., and Jayden Daniels. If not, or if you only have time for one of them my #1 seed would be Fashanu.

@FatherJosh1

5 ай бұрын

You must be a Washington fan

@homereap

5 ай бұрын

@@FatherJosh1 Yes sir. I’m reping Ravens gear out of respect for my nephew. Plus the fact that my season was over 10 weeks ago. 😁

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, that means a lot to me! Marvin Harrison Jr video coming out soon and I can't wait for you to watch!

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Marvin Harrison Jr video is out! I'd love to hear what you think!

The game he didn’t play was incredible,his back up was amazing, but it can’t be the system?

Older Pats fan here who saw them draft Jim Plunkett and Drew Bledsoe. We’ll never see another Brady but it looks like we will have an opportunity to get a good one after this dreadful season. Thanks for the vid!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@aaronbreeds758

5 ай бұрын

you mean the pats will come away with caleb williams?

@GG-cq3yh

4 ай бұрын

You guys have had a lifetime of success in the past 20. No disrespect, but no mercy for you guys.

@VALxTheEpicGamer

4 ай бұрын

@@aaronbreeds758 this casablanca guy can dream on... its either the Bears or Commanders who will come away with Williams

surprised you didn't mention his dropback. going through his (early) tape and he has some funky timing

Can’t wait for him in Chicago

It's the pocket presence. Caleb's got it. He knows how to navigate within the pocket and go thru his progressions. He keeps his head up and eyes scanning. Drake Maye and even Justin Fields don't have the same pocket presence. Fields just ducks and bails out with the slightest pressure. That's the difference.

@TheJumboPackage

4 ай бұрын

I'd tend to agree with much of what you wrote here. Caleb's pocket presence is high-level, if not elite, and he does a really excellent job working through his reads - probably one of the best QBs I've watched in that area!

Thank you for a thorough analysis. Sad to say, as a Bear fan I hadn't even looked at any of Caleb Williams highlights or breakdowns. I think the biggest concern is operating in structure with the most glaring aspect being his failure to direct the ball to specific spots. You can get your receivers destroyed with such a callous approach. And I feel his freewheeling style allows him to make the throws he makes on the run, but it will lead to heartbreaking fumbles and interceptions in the NFL. He will have to adjust quickly or go through a painful transformation. I'd love to see your analysis of Justn Fields coming out of Ohio State and see how accurate you are in your breakdowns.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I think he'll reel it in a little bit at the NFL level, but obviously there is no way to know for sure. As for Fields, I unfortunately didn't watch his college tape coming out so I can't say for sure if I would've accurately predicted his NFL play. However, every single person who watches draft tape is going to have hits and misses, so I don't think one hit or miss will make or break their credibility!

Excellent breakdown! I'm a Bears fan and I'm struggling with wanting the Bears to draft him. I feel that Justin is making progress, but I am often hollering for Justin to "throw the ball, Justin!" I also feel that the play calling was subpar this season. What I liked about your analysis of Caleb's strengths is that he is always looking to throw the ball, whereas Justin may look to run. He has improved in this area though. On the other hand, your analysis of his weaknesses is giving me a lot of pause. I also think about the potential draft haul that we could get for trading out of the first pick and potentially getting a Marvin Harrison Jr. and maybe Latu or Verse. Your breakdown did too good of a job, lol! You have a new subscriber though!

@pierceliu9914

5 ай бұрын

I mean, you don’t pass up generational talent because you have a solid player on your team. This is like you don’t want Mahomes on your team because you have Dak. Not to mention Fields is actually very mid and y’all would have to swap him in the future anyways

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that! I'm glad to have you join the community! He's definitely one of these guys with really high-highs and he can definitely have low-lows. MHJ and Latu would be awesome in my opinion. I haven't been able to watch much of Latu yet, but I really liked what I've seen from him!

Well this video made me ask myself, “would I rather have Kyler Murray or Justin Fields?” 🤔 I think Fields…

Nice breakdown of Caleb and Mayes in your other video. Bears sitting at #1 pick so far. Justin has the same positives of these quarterbacks, but also all of the negatives. The problem with Justin is he is going into the 4th year and still retains the negatives---holding ball too long, lack of anticipation, turnover, seeing open receivers, suspect mechanics, lack of awareness in the pocket; whether due to poor coaching (that is obvious) , lack of weapons and protection, or just plainly does not have it.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that! I'd agree that Fields and Caleb especially share some of the same big weaknesses. The point you made about Fields too is kind of why I lean towards going w/Caleb, as I mentioned in my pinned comments... because he seems to not be able to consistently overcome his weaknesses and there hasn't been that much of a change since year 1 after over 35 starts. But I still see the upside with him!

@dmvbay2535

5 ай бұрын

I see Justin's glass 1/2 full and not 1/2 empty. Even though he has had a lot of negatives, I see definite improvement with him this year. He has not regressed like other QBs (Mac Jones, Sam Howell) but is actually making strides. He has a lot of untapped potential and I just think proper coaching could eliminate many of the bad habits he has. He many never be as polished as fans want him to but if they can accept his flaws like Buffalo fans accept Josh Allen's faults, everything should be okay. I mean, after all, Chicago has won 4 out of the last 5 games so we should always look at these little but significant things.

@byronscherer5098

5 ай бұрын

Why is it Justin makes insane anticipatory throws to DJ but not others? ROUTE RUNNING CRISPNESS by receivers. Other than DJ the routes by Bears rec are not crisp. Now kmet has dramatically improved on this during the last 1/2 of this year.

@VictoriaColmenares-rv5dq

5 ай бұрын

@@byronscherer5098 wr coach and oc fired . Hmmmmmmmmmmm

@VictoriaColmenares-rv5dq

5 ай бұрын

I’m not sure how to look at this . He has the same flaws as Fields but in a level lower . How does that translate to the nfl?

He has played against some of the worst defenses in college. NOTRE-DAME EMBRASSED HIM

@ceeebo

6 ай бұрын

its one game....name a QB that hasnt had a really bad game at some point

@tkamm

6 ай бұрын

He was pedestrian vs Oregon. Same vs Washington where he cried with his mom. He lost a lot at SC despite being stacked offensively. His mental makeup bothered me.

His problems begin when you look at the area above his shoulders.

He looks a lot like Aaron Rodgers. Like Rodgers he doesn’t look to run but he moves around while continuing to look down field.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

I could see parts of Rodgers in his game for sure!

@jonathanfrimerman8855

6 ай бұрын

Honestly the Bears should have BOTH HIM and Fields in the team 2023 taught us one thing You need a quality backup qb and Caleb will be goid for him to sit and wait for his chance

@jonathanfrimerman8855

6 ай бұрын

​@@TheJumboPackageIf hes The next Aaron rodgers the bears have to take hik because rodgers was bears rival

Great video‼️Always looking for up incoming draft analysts. It gets tiring listening to the same old voices

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that!

That underhand pass was fucking Insane i never seen that😂 Love the way he steps into his throws, the release, playmaking, accuracy, goes through progressions Yeah welcome to Chicago Caleb💯

@datboirai7326

5 ай бұрын

He literally has rodgers type pocket manipulation

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Yep, he has some excellent traits - his ability to play in structure, when he chooses to, is underrated imo - He just needs to be more consistent with it!

I did the math and Caleb Williams college numbers are better than most - if not all - college QB’s. which explains why he is so highly rated. Tom Brady: 4 years college = 30 TD / 17 Int / 4,773 Yards / 134 Rating + Rushing: -150 Yards / 3 TD Brock Purdy: 4 years college = 81 TD / 33 Int / 12,170 Yards / 151 Rating + Rushing: 1,177 Yards / 19 TD Patrick Mahomes: 3 years college = 93 TD / 29 Int / 11,252 Yards / 152 Rating + Rushing: 845 Yards / 22 TD Caleb Williams: 3 years college = 93 TD / 14 Int / 10,082 Yards / 169 Rating + Rushing: 966 Yards / 27 TD Justin Fields: 3 years college = 67 TD / 9 Int / 5,701 Yards / 178 Rating + Rushing: 1,123 Yards / 19 TD Trevor Lawrence: 3 years college = 90 TD / 17 Int / 10,098 Yards / 164 Rating + Rushing: 943 Yards / 18 TD Andrew Luck: 3 years college = 82 TD / 22 Int / 9,430 Yards / 162 Rating + Rushing: 957 Yards / 7 TD Drake Maye: 3 years college = 63 TD / 16 Int / 7,764 Yards / 154 Rating + Rushing: 1,209 Yards / 16 TD J.J. McCarthy: 3 years college = 45 TD / 11 Int / 5,570 Yards / 163 Rating + Rushing: 594 Yards / 10 TD Carson Beck = 3 years college = 27 TD / 7 Int / 3,806 Yards / 168 Rating + Rushing: 163 Yards / 3 TD Jayden Daniels = 5 years college = 85 TD / 20 Int / 12,515 Yards / 157 Rating + Rushing: 3,187 Yards / 34 TD Bo Nix: 5 years college = 103 TD / 25 Int / 14,383 Yards / 147 Rating + Rushing: 1,507 Yards / 37 TD Micheal Penix: 6 years college = 91 TD / 32 Int / 12,788 Yards / 148 Rating + Rushing: 247 Yards / 13 TD

Go to exactly 4:20 sec of the video and pause the video. Zoom in on the pocket Clean. Look at Caleb's eyes are down the field. There is a receiver in the back of the e zone. He been open. Now play the rest. He's not perfect, and I'm a USC fan. He misses wide open receivers often. He is great. But we will see on the next level

How is he a generational talent when hes coming out only 7 years after the guy everyone wants to compare him to ?

With the right coaching staff and time to develop, there's all the potential in the world for Caleb to be a dominant NFL force. If he's another young QB flung into the starting job a month into his NFL career, he could just as easily be another Mitch Trubisky.

@rthraitor

5 ай бұрын

He's a much better prospect than mitch

@yosolo6463

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if the Patriots would be a great fit for him? Or if they would even make the jump to get him in the draft?

@richj011

5 ай бұрын

@@rthraitor Ya think? lol

No. Him being soft and living off of backyard football is going to fail big time in the NFL. He is being hyped beyond reason at this point.

Caleb reminds me of Aaron Rodgers in terms of his game. Moves to throw, makes full field reads, throws into windows with different arm angles. My only issue with his game is I doubt he will be able to have some of the longer extended throws in the NFL the rush gets there in the NFL. Luckily though he doesn’t rely solely on extending the play. He can throw with timing and deliver from the pocket when he needs to.

@TheJumboPackage

4 ай бұрын

I could definitely see a bit of Rodgers in there!

One of the major criticism of Fields is he holds the ball too long. Williams holds the ball too long in majority of his highlights and will not be doing all this scrambling around in the NFL.

@tomtsu5923

4 ай бұрын

Another lost soul lol

I haven’t seen a source that is able to share infouon his hand size. At his height, an important detail. For example, Brees and Wilson both have big 10 inch hands.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

True! We'll have to wait until the combine!

You gonna do one for Jayden Daniels? I would love to see that

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Definitely will! The problem is that there isn't enough all-22 currently available to come to a solid conclusion on him. Hoping some will be released soon!

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

Finally have the Daniels vid out- would love to hear what you think!

Excellent breakdown. I've been a Bears fan since Bill George, whose number I chose for my own in high school. The only player I've been more excited about is the incomparable Gayle Sayers. What I want to know was 13 Caleb's number of choice because of Dan Marino? Again, thank you for the outstanding and objective analysis.

@TheJumboPackage

Ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that!! Also, I’m not totally sure why Williams has #13. I read that he had #18 in Highschool and that he intends to give #13 to Keenan Allen in the NFL, so I’m not sure if it has any particular significant to him!

Yea, i've seen that from Caleb, he just wants to get mostly the big yards and plays rather the safe quick yards, then he is holding the ball to long lol

@messi4brownlow

6 ай бұрын

Very similar to manziel

@ceeebo

6 ай бұрын

@@messi4brownlow bro youre kidding right

I have the first pick in 2 dynasty rookie drafts. I was certain I was going with Caleb. This video did 2 things. 1.) earned my subscription 2.) seriously makes me consider going with Marvin Harrison Jr with the 1st pick because he doesn't have as many red flags. GREAT BREAKDOWN! looking forward to future content from this channel!

@GoodvibesXD

6 ай бұрын

Yes MHJ to DA BEARS!!!!!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for subscribing, I love to hear that people are excited for more videos so I appreciate it a lot! Also, I 10000% agree with picking MHJ 1st overall in fantasy. No matter what team he goes too, he’s going to be a beast and I’d want him on every single one of my fantasy teams if I could get him!

@Icebgriz

6 ай бұрын

Welcome to Chicago cw13

@ci6516

6 ай бұрын

Bro he holds the ball over 3 seconds on average how is that gonna work when the bears pocket barely gets to 1.5????

@ci6516

6 ай бұрын

He’s too short to get immediate check down like Justin can when the pocket immediately collapses . Caleb would get broken in a Chicago pocket

Great job with this video. I'm a Ravens fan and not the biggest college football fan. I learned a lot from this video

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate that!

"For all of you pessimists out there." Thank you for acknowledging me😅. I'd love to see a Caleb Williams/Justin Fields camp battle. I don't know if that's the best thing to do for either of them.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Haha, I definitely fall into the pessimist boat too! Also, that’d be super fun to watch!! Don’t think it’s best for them either, but it’d be best for football fans 😂 thanks for watching as usual, you’re a real one!

Quick release just as important what good arm strength if you have to wind up to achieve like Justin Fields.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Very true! Quick release, especially when compared w/arm strength, gives even more leeway to be late on reads because they can get the ball to the WR even quicker.

As a Bears fan, after seeing this and your Drake Maye video, I think the Bears need to grab Caleb Williams. If you're putting him in the same conversation as Mahomes and Allen, I'm definitely in for that. I don't think Fields would ever be as good as that, unfortunately. I think they need to trade him. Trading the 1st pick to keep Fields and try to build up the team more would be a bad idea in my opinion. In the current division situation, the Lions are good, and the Packers found something in Jordan Love which is also scary. The way I see it, the Bears don't stand a chance in winning the division unless they catch lightning in a bottle with Caleb Williams, which they very well may.

@TheJumboPackage

4 ай бұрын

I tend to agree! Thanks for watching!

I’m sure he’s a great prospect and baller. It all depends who drafts him. Good luck Caleb

I agree with the pro-comp.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

My Word the footwork in the pocket and the head movement through progression the awareness the mobility and arm strength 🐻

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

When he puts it all together, some of these plays on film are just absolutely nuts!

His size kinda concerns me. He’s listed at 6’1” so I’d bet he’s more like 6’0”. But I read somewhere his hands are on the smaller side. And the 32 fumbles in 36 games is very concerning me. I love Fields and if this guy is “can’t miss,” I’m good with it. But, like most Bears fans on thus thread, I’m torn. Every day I change my mind. Today, I want to keep Fields.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

It's a tough decision and I think a lot can go wrong and a lot can go right with either choice unfortunately. I think your concerns about his height and fumbles are very fair! Ultimately we'll never know until he gets to the NFL!

Nice assessment, makes me feel more confident if the Bears decide to move on from Fields. I feel like we saw more of this accuracy in Caleb's sophomore season, but then again I didn't watch every USC game. His play vs Notre Dame this year gave me concerns whereas in his sophomore season vs ND he looked like an all-pro. My only question is how serious Caleb is about not wanting to play for the Bears? We've seen what happens when a top QB prospect would rather play elsewhere and was willing to follow through.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that! Did Caleb say somewhere that he wasn't willing to play for the Bears? I hadn't heard that

@turtleislandlac1490

5 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage He hasn't said it explicitly but he's liked tweets saying the Bears should keep Fields. And he reportedly wants part ownership of whatever team drafts him. There's also that rumor that he has a list of certain teams that he's willing to play for, the Raiders, Cowboys, Vikings, Giants or 49ers.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

@@turtleislandlac1490 Interesting - I'll have to look into that!

Maybe im wrong but i didn't see him play in the pocket

He want have time for all that if drafted to the beard 😂😂

Can you do a video on Jayden Daniels?

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Definitely intend to! Right now there isn't enough all-22 available which is frustrating, but when it gets released I will!

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

Finally posted the Jayden Daniels video- let me know what you think!

But can he play in the cold? All of his home games in Chicago and at least one of his road games (Green Bay) will be in colder weather outdoors. You may discount this point as unimportant, but if you look at the statistics of warm weather college QBs playing in cold weather outdoor NFL cities, you will find a dramatic drop off in performance compared to other QBs that grew up in the cold like some Big Ten QBs. Consider this…

@TheJumboPackage

2 ай бұрын

Interesting point! I'm not totally sure if he can tbh, mostly based on my lack of knowledge of the temperatures of the games he has played in. He has the arm strength to make difficult throws in the wind tho! He is from the DC area so its not like he's grown up his whole life in CA, but I get your overall point!

The rumor that is starting to go around is Chicago trades JF to Atl for the #8 pick. This is coming from Kiper and while he hasnt said so there is speculation that he got thisfrom someone in the Atl organization. Imho its a great trade for both teams.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

That'd be interesting!

I really like Fields but he isn't as decisive as Williams seems to be. Fields also has a slow dropback, he takes longer to throw due to his high, slow release angle, & ultimately I would trust Williams out of the pocket more than Fields. When it comes playoff time, you face the best defenses & they will scheme running QBs to the pocket. Thats why I believe rushing should always be secondary but a QB like Fields definitely relies too much on it. If I'm the Bears, i already know what i have in Fields & so even if Williams busts, i didn't think Fields would win it all anyway. I'm trading Justin for at least a 2nd round pick, drafting Williams at #1, & then with pick 8-11, I'm taking one of those top 3 WRs assuming one is left to pair w/ Moore & Kmet thus giving Williams a solid group to come into as a rookie on top of an already improving OLine & one of the best defenses in the league in terms of stopping the run & getting takeaways. This would be the best team the Bears can offer a rookie QB. Trubisky & Fields never had this type of supporting cast when they came into the league

During his heisman season he ran a few plays under center that involved nfl ball fakes and other nfl running concepts. He can do it but I understand those who don’t go back a season when scouting.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Gotcha! I had watched games from last season, but I didn't save any clips from them so I wouldn't accidentally put older clips in this video. I honestly just couldn't remember many snaps where he was under center, but at that point in my film watching I wasn't really looking for it quite as much!

@dmvbay2535

5 ай бұрын

I hope the Commanders get him but it depends what Chicago does Draft day. Caleb or Marvin? BTW, what part of Belize are u from?

Coming from a Bears fan, I cannot wait until he is a Bear. I love justin, but his inconsistencies thru 4 years in the air have really put me out on him with the capability to win a SB. You can blame Getsy and the coaching staff (who all blow and is prolly the worst staff I've ever seen assembled,) who did him extremely dirty, but you cant pass on the opportunity to draft a superstar level qb talent with the first pick. He will reset the QB rookie contract where we don't have to pay justin an insane contract that he will want beinga Boras client. and pairing him with a guy like malik nabers, bowers, or odunze with the guys we already got, its a complete no brainer. Fields Army and the people that want this team to remain mediocre make me sick. Calebs issues are fixable given the right coaching (Ben Johnson I beg,) and our future will be one of the brightest in the league. Can. Not. Wait for April 25th

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

I'm excited for you guys! I'm really looking forward to what the Bears will choose to do!

@apeshiitnate1355

5 ай бұрын

3 yrs

3.19 seconds. With the Bears line, at the NFL level of play from defenses is a lot of sacks.

He’s Justin Fields

Well it seems that the bears are building the team to surround CW with enough talent. I hope we draft him 1st over all, and i hope we develop him. I feel the GM is setting the team to have a 49ers type of success

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

I have a really good feeling about how this will come together for the Bears. Obviously nothing is ever certain, but I think DJ Moore and Keenan Allen are excellent, reliable WRs to pair with Williams and he'll have Kmet, Swift, Herbert, Everett, and Velus Jones as well. If the OL plays to a solid level, I think Caleb will be an excellent QB!

Bears 🐻 here nice break down. We’re starved for a franchise qb, if they end up with Willams and he’s the real deal in the NFL he will own the city.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it! I've always said the same about the Jets haha. Hopefully they'll have the face of their franchise soon!

Plz do a draft profile on Jayden Daniels

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Will do! Waiting for some more all-22 on him to come out before I can form a substantive opinion, but I've watched 3 games so far and hope to have a video out soon when some more all-22 is available!

I have been pushing Jayden Daniels all year.... My problem is everyone has Caleb Williams so far ahead of him... I don't see it.. Both have won the Heisman Trophy Jayden had a better 2023 season AND SEC VS pac 12 .. Look at the 2023 stats Also 6'4 vs 6'1 in nfl that makes a difference

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

I'll have to see! I only have early season all-22 of Jayden Daniels right now and I'm waiting to get more before I come to a determination on his draft grade!

@TheJumboPackage

3 ай бұрын

Jayden Daniels video is out now- would love to hear your thoughts!

Remind me how do USC qbs do in the NFL

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Helmet scouting is not fair at all. People said the same thing about CJ Stroud and look at him now. Just because people wore the same uniform and played for completely different coaches, with completely different talent around them, and went to completely different teams, in completely different time periods doesn't mean a player can't be successful. It doesn't mean he will be successful either, but the school has nothing to do with it.

I see Kyler as well

Just sounds like you're talking about Feilds should we start over?

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I addressed this in my pinned comment if you want to check it out!

I think he’ll probably be good but the Mahomes comparisons are laughable. Mahomes is absurdly talented who landed in a great situation who also reached his potential. Caleb is less talented, going to a worse situation, and likely won’t reach his potential (just statistical fact).

@lnnrt0161

6 ай бұрын

I don’t think they are totally unfair. Of course Mahomes is great and Wiliams is an unknown in the NFL but when a QB has a lot of physical similarities and plays comparably to a great QB just like Mahomes O think the comparison is fair. Just shouldn’t be misunderstood as playing on the same level

@wilkic2

6 ай бұрын

@@lnnrt0161 they’re unfair to Caleb for starters. Most people think if Caleb is “like Mahomes” there’s a realistic upside chance he could be Mahomes, since they have some physical similarities and some play style similarities. I don’t think that’s realistic.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

@@wilkic2 I think it’s fair to say that Caleb has some “Mahomes-like” traits or that parts of his games look similar to how Mahomes plays the game, but I agree that no one should be comped to Mahomes, which is why I didn’t make the comp in this video. Mahomes has such a unique blend of skills which make him one of the greatest QBs of all time already!

@wilkic2

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage yeah, I agree with you. That is fair

@rthraitor

6 ай бұрын

Williams is a much better prospect than Mahomes was coming out 💀

I'm sticking with Fields. there's no need to rush , build a team first, and Justin is more than capable of taking them to the next level. DJ and Harrison and Kmet and a center. Will make a huge impact , it's the same situation, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson in their first year's in the NFL

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

I don't necessarily disagree! As you can see from my pinned comment, I lean in the direction of taking Caleb, but I don't think the Bears are wrong if they stick with Fields either

What a return on investment... Hopefully he's good enough to bring Maxx Crosby to Chicago... Imagine Sweat and Crosby...Hunting your team...

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

That'd be crazy!

I’ve been struggling with the fields ha caleb argument, I’m still indecisive so.. I’m gonna leave it to bears GM on this one

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Very tough decision no doubt!

I dislike the clickbait title, but i subscribed. Really enjoyed this thoughtful analysis. As a bears fan my guess is Williams will be their selection. Trying to be rational and it's difficult bc i think fields is a great guy and they handled him poorly, but i see his flaws as well. Anywho, nice work and I'll definitely keep an eye on your channel.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

I think that's a fair criticism quite honestly, but I'd argue that it's unfortunately a necessary evil as a large number of people won't give the video a chance without a compelling title. But then once more people click, it gets sent to more people (like yourself) who can come join the community and talk football with everyone, so ultimately I'm okay with that tradeoff! Glad you enjoyed the video and I share your sentiment with how tough this choice will be for the Bears!

@mattbrooks1302

5 ай бұрын

@TheJumboPackage I get it. It's the attention economy, and you do what you have to do. Your content is solid so that's what matters. Cheers dude. I'll be watching.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man, glad to have you here!@@mattbrooks1302

Welcome to Chicago

Please do michale pennix next

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Won't be next, but he'll be soon after!

Please, Bears, don't fuck this up!

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

I think any decision for them is good quite honestly! As long as it's getting Caleb or getting MHJ somehow!

I feel like Aaron Rodgers would have been the greatest of all time hands down if he was more clutch. Could you please do a breakdown later on of his game? If you look back at some of the throws he would make early in his career, they are so rare to see. I don’t see any QBs having that kind of arm arrogance as much as I seen it from him, to get throws into tight windows. I like your ability to break down the tape. Nice work

@TheJumboPackage

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, I really appreciate it! I agree about Rodgers - he’s one of the greatest QBs of all time in terms of pure talent, just doesn’t really have the accolades. But he has some of the most beautiful throws I’ve ever seen

cant blame him for feeling like he can do something special every play, i think thats an abundance of confidence... however he'll need to learn to take simpler plays early in the nfl, otherwise what seems like confidence could become arrogance... i see alot of mocks having him go to washington, and id be thrilled for them to finallly get a chance to derail the qb carousel, but he'll need to throw quick and be ready to scramble behind that o line.

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

Agreed with your eval in that sense and I love the way you phrased it! Would be really interesting to see him in Washington, especially with their pass catchers!

As a Bears fan, I just don't see him as some must take upgrade over Fields, especially since his issues, are largely the same ones Fields has at times, and the reasons given, are a lot of same ones Fields has on top of it...plus, some really horrible coaching from the OC who refuses to gameplan to his abilities most of the time. What most of those calling for them to draft Caleb never seem to mention, is do they think Getsy should stay? Because if Fields isn't the type of QB for Getsy, then neither is Williams, they're too similar and on top of having to adjust to playing under center more often, he'd likely have to deal with Getsy refusing to call plays that fit his ability, further handicapping...really don't want to see Getsy ruin another young mans career.....And if they get rid of Getsy, then, well other than the issue of having Fields in yet another new system with another new OC, you can negate a lot of that by actually choosing an OC who wants to run a system that would actually benefit Fields and the talent around him. The line is still suspect, but improving. Either way, good breakdown. I just don't see him as an upgrade over Fields, especially with other issues on the Bears team. If I'm the Bears GM, I'm sticking with Fields through his rookie contract, bringing in an OC who actually wants to work with him, drafting MHJ to add a second legit WR (right now he basically has Moore at WR and Kmet at TE as the only really reliable targets), getting an upgrade at Left tackle (I like Braxton Jones, and he has a lot of potential, but he's not elite at this stage and it's an important position worthy of an upgrade to let them settle it in training camp, either way, you end up with more depth at the position) and in the 3rd or 4th, add a Center because, my god, that is a huge weakness. They could also use more depth and upgrades at the guard position...while they can and will add some of that depth in free agency, the best bet to get players of the future long term, is going to be the draft, and if they have the 1st overall pick, the thing that makes the most sense to me, is to trade down, even if only one spot, to get additional picks and still get MHJ (though there seems to be several really good options at WR in this draft who would be great additions alongside Moore). Hell, with this strategy, it's likely the Bears would end up with three 1st round picks in the 2025 draft. If Fields falls to pieces or hasn't shown he can be the guy at the end of his rookie contract even with a better OC who is playing to his abilities, then well, you have plenty of draft capital to move up from wherever they would end up drafting to go get one of the top QB's in the 2025 draft. Drafting a QB is always a gamble, and with the defense improving much faster than the offense (largely due to coaching in my opinion), you don't want to waste 2 or 3 years of a competitive defense on a new QB who may, or may not, show you any real ability at the NFL level. No matter who is QB of the Bears though, I think it's clear Getsy can't be the OC, especially for Williams who has so many of the same pros and cons of Fields. It would be insanity. (Sadly, I've seen more than one Bears fan insist that we can't properly evaluate Getsy as an OC because of Fields...which, is backwards thinking, good coaches will adjust to the players on their roster, not insist on calling plays for the guys he wishes he had on his roster...he fails to do that, and that's the evaluation in and of itself) Just my 2 cents (and then some) appreciate the breakdown.

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

First, thank you for watching and for commenting your thoughts, I appreciate it! I'd agree that Caleb definitely has some of the same issues as Fields did coming out of college. I think that the benefit in taking Caleb would be to reset the rookie window, because they're going to need to make a decision on Fields's 5th year option next season and then decide whether they want to pay him. But to your point, it's kind of a balancing act of what they'd rather have: (a) Caleb Williams + resetting the rookie contract window + whatever they get from trading fields; or (b) Fields + Whatever they get from trading #1 + whatever they lose from trading back into 3 to get MHJ. It's definitely a tough debate, because you stand to gain more from a team building perspective with the resources you get from trading #1, but you're also still a bit in limbo w/a QB who has struggled to improve some of the same problems he's shown since day 1. But of course, just to equivocate some more, its very possible they'll draft Caleb and have the exact same issue down the road with way less resources. I don't envy their position, but at the same time I do because I almost think they can do no wrong as long as they get either Caleb or Marvin Harrison Jr. As for Getsy, I'd agree he definitely started out the year struggling to scheme around Fields's strengths. He's gotten a bit better, but still not great or even good at playing to Fields's strengths. I'd love to see Fields with someone like a Shane Steichen who has worked in a lot of different schemes w/different QB types (Worked w/Norv Turner & Rivers in SD, then Turner & Weeden in CLE, went back to LAC to work w/Justin Herbert underneath different OCs, then completely changed up by working w/Hurts & Richardson in Philly & Indy). Getsy spent a lot of time in Green Bay working with Rodgers, McCarthy, and Lafleur so he's had a little bit of exposure to different things, but no one like Fields and I think if he were to get better at it, it's definitely going to take time so I'm not sure if they want to afford him the time to do that w/Caleb or move in another direction. I know that was kind of rambling, but I wanted to address some of the main points of your comment. Let me know what you think!

@mr.guillotine3766

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage I don't disagree with you, but to me, resetting the contract isn't a huge deal given the cap space the Bears have to work with. If they were still under the previous regime, it would be urgent, but Poles has done an excellent job of creating cap space and stocking up on resources (draft picks) to allow a lot more flexibility. Picking up his option will cost them a little over 23 mil I do believe, but it would give him two full seasons under any new OC who might be brought in (and I love your suggestion and think he would be a great selection. They need a proven OC primarily so they know he would be willing and able to do what Getsy has not, which is call plays to the players ability, not just Fields, but also that O-line, which is improving but still isn't good enough for what Getsy really wants to do) I'll understand if the Bears do move on from Fields, but it will also just be yet another QB the Bears of failed to develop and potentially ruined their career, though I think if he were to move on to a team like Atlanta, with some of the weapons they have there already, a lot of Bears fans might be regretting that move midway through next season. The coaching has been the biggest factor...and to me, the biggest indictment of Getsy is that we saw what Fields did last season, when he did finally learn to call plays to fit the talent on the offense (which was basically just Fields, the running game, and sometimes Kmet and Mooney, the line was just horrible, though Braxton Jones improved as the year progressed)...Fields kept the Bears competitive in almost every game. They lost 7 games by one score or less, but the defense was bottom of the league as well then. This season, many of us expected him to build off of that, expand it, incorporate some of his own system of pocket passing now that the line was improved but primarily building off of what worked and should work even better now that Fields has an additional WR, who is a legit no.1 option...instead, it was a stubborn insistence on forcing him to stay in the pocket. It does not work for Fields for a few reasons, some of which are (IMO) there was no real trust in the line yet at the start of the season. They hadn't proven they were improved yet, mainly because they weren't, not all around, in large part due to the fact that we started off with two starters being injured or unavailable anyway, I don't think our starting line played a game together until after Fields was injured this season. Getsy struggles in play calling beyond the initial script of 15 or so plays. He's predictable, makes it easier for teams to simply know what play is coming, unless he's allowed for Fields to move the pocket and sort of do a bit of practiced improv...Fields was already improving on keeping his eyes downfield when he scrambled last season, the problem then, was that there wasn't really anyone getting open, but we still saw some magic happen because he didn't just take off and run, he was moving with his eyes downfield just in case someone did, and a few times they managed to do it. (though, usually he had to tuck it and run, but he was looking on many of those). Going into this season, with a legit no.1 WR, Kmet, Mooney (who sadly has really fallen off and seems to have checked out...reminding me of the last year of Allen Robinson far too often), it should have meant just huge improvements on similar plans as last season...it never really materialized. We did see Fields showing his passer ability in back to back games before his injury though, (when the line was mostly healthy, I think maybe we were only missing one of our starters by that point? or my timeline could be off, but the line was holding up better either way). I think that's his true capacity and to me, that's more than a "flash"...I feel like it's not always Fields who is inconsistent, but the play calling. Either way, Poles will make the decision. I just don't see that "instant upgrade" in any QB in this draft class that some Bears fans seem to see. I do see some big red flags around a few of the guys, and not just reported ones that nobody is backing up, but ones we've been able to see with our own eyes (that rumor of Fields not having a work ethic, not being a leader, before his draft, certainly didn't turn out to be true...which is another concern I'd have in trading him. He is a leader in that locker room. The guys are questioning why this is even a discussion and getting a bit irritated with the media asking about JF1, with Moore saying that he doesn't think the QB's in this class are better than Fields, Jaylon Johnson talking about how Fields is their guy and a leader they all look to, etc)...and we've certainly seen players sort of tap dance around questions about the QB if there is any doubt in the locker room...(sort of how Eberflus danced around a question about Getsy recently..when directly asked about the offense, he replied with how "Luke is a great guy" type of response) I'd hate to see the Bears blow up the improving chemistry by moving on from a guy they all believe in, and going with someone who will have to prove themselves from scratch, and who may already have some obstacles and preconceived notions that may take longer to overcome, if ever. Poles will decide though at some point. I understand your points, I don't disagree with them, I don't know that I feel it's as big of a positive to reset that rookie QB contract though. Too many holes still exist so the extra picks from trading down from 1st are a pretty big deal. We'd have three 1st rounders next draft with some interesting/talented QB's coming out then as well...But, it's all a gamble. Seems like a lot of QB's taken 1st overall never live up to their expectations. I'd rather keep building, knowing that if we have to move on from him, we have the cap space, the draft capital, and by then, a solid team, to go ahead and do that in 2025 or 2026, but I'll understand if Poles sees it differently. (I think I rambled more than you did, it's sort of my style lol)

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

@@mr.guillotine3766 Haha, I ramble a lot too so no worries. I thought your comment was really interesting and had a lot of interesting points! Specifically the one about Fields struggling in the beginning of the season due to lack of trust in the OL. I think that's such an interesting point that I hadn't really thought about because he had been bludgeoned by their OL the prior year, so he needed time for them to prove that they were actually going to holdup before he was willing to sit in the pocket and beat teams solely through the air. I also agree it doesn't make sense to limit his game in that way because beating teams w/his legs also makes it easier to win through the air because the threat of the run is there. It's also interesting to note that since their defense has improved in the last few weeks, the team has looked much better as a whole so Fields has much more help and has looked much improved. In terms of resetting the rookie window, for the Bears, it's not so much contract oriented, as it's time oriented (i.e., they have more time to continue building the team before they need to shell out money for a QB), but I definitely see you're point that they have a lot of cap space and their cap is not much of a concern. I also agree that Fields will be awesome in Atlanta if they wind up keeping Arthur Smith and totally get your worries about failing to develop another QB (I'm a Jets fan, so I don't even need to explain why I understand it haha).

Hopefully we see someone better than both

@TheJumboPackage

Ай бұрын

That'd be awesome!

Interesting 🤔 looks the colors he sports..,,, matches the 2024 # 2 pick. (perfect place for him) 😎

so lets see 27+ mil signing bonus to take a chance on a rookie working out or extra picks and only 31 mil for 2 years of Fields so how does drafting a QB work out better for the Bears??

@TheJumboPackage

5 ай бұрын

You’re misrepresenting how the cap works. The signing bonus is prorated across the course of the deal, so that $27million is prorated across the 4 years, adding up to 6.75mil per year. For an example, look at how Bryce Young’s contract is structured. Young’s total cap hit over 4 seasons is around 38-40 million total, with gradually increasing cap hits (same signing bonus every year + increasing base salary every season). The largest cap hit Bryce has is in the last year of his deal at 12mil and the cap hit in his first year is only 7mil. The same logic will apply to Caleb’s contract if taken #1 overall, but Caleb will be slightly more expensive. You’re correct that Fields’s cap hit in the next two years w/the two year option is around 31 mil, but that doesn’t include his next contract. So the options are Caleb for 4 years at 41 million total (with gradually increasing cap hits starting at around 8mil in first year and ending up around 13mil in his 4th year) or Fields for 2 years at 31mil total + whatever you have to give him to keep him past his 5th year option. Obviously the 41/4 is less per year than 31/2.

Caleb is too soft for Chicago!!! Justin Fields has earned his stripes in Chicago. BEAR ⬇️

@Dinosharkmaster

6 ай бұрын

Bears finally has a respectable QB and they can’t wait to get rid of him lol Caleb does look good… put I would build around fields with Mhj

@Icebgriz

6 ай бұрын

CANT WAIT TO SEE CALEB IN A BEARS UNI

@jaredbrown5419

6 ай бұрын

Earned what strips 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡dawg he’s a mid to below average QB. Watch the tape please 🙏🏾

@jaredbrown5419

6 ай бұрын

Lazy take saying he’s soft like he’s not playing football and getting hit 🤡🤡🤡🤡just say you love JF1 and have this delusion he’s a great QB 💀

@Icebgriz

6 ай бұрын

@@jaredbrown5419 YEAH HE'S A BACK UP AT BEST RIGHT NOW

Question: if you're the Bears Fields or Caleb??

@kozmos858

6 ай бұрын

Marvin Harrison Jr.

@luigiusa7976

6 ай бұрын

@@kozmos858 I'm asking about QBs 🤣 That's probably the right answer, but not what I'm looking for lol

@Icebgriz

6 ай бұрын

CW13

@TheJumboPackage

6 ай бұрын

Honestly, I don't think they can go wrong with anything. JF1 has lots of potential and his floor is raised by adding a guy like a MHJ + whoever they can get w/extra draft picks if they trade out of 1 and trade back into 3 to take MHJ. On the other hand, Caleb resets the rookie contract window and can probably do quite a lot of what Fields can do now, plus the potential for him to be even better for the team. Going to be an interesting decision!

@Icebgriz

6 ай бұрын

@@TheJumboPackage FIELDS ISN'T THAT GOOD