Trey Murphy is NOT a better defender than Ingram. He isn’t a better playmaker than Ingram. He isn’t a better scorer than Ingram. It’s not even close who is the better player. You can tell he doesn’t watch basketball.

@joshromero-burgan9860

Ай бұрын

Bro thank you. Like who tf is this dude. He has no clue. I'm a pelicans fan. The one and only reason brandon is in trade talks is because his contract. Add to that our owner hasn't and will not pay the luxury tax. Zion needs 3 pt shooters. That is why trey isnt being moved

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

Yep

@Theoriginialdonguillory

Ай бұрын

Murphy is definitely a better defender then Ingram

@joshromero-burgan9860

Ай бұрын

@@Theoriginialdonguillory in what area. If we talking specifically this year nah bro lol. Last year he absolutely was. This year? Ingram took a big leap and unless you watch pels games you wouldn't know

@user-mf6xc8zg7o

Ай бұрын

After Herb Jones and Dyson Daniels, Brandon Ingram was our best defender last year.

That’s wild to call him the 3rd best wing and he’s the only one averaging 20 a game

@jarrelljackson3777

25 күн бұрын

And that’s playing with Zion

Don't forget Bates 🫡

@DocJoby

Ай бұрын

We are skinny. Bates, BI, Mobley, even Allen. What happens when Lebron, Luka, Zion, Embiid, Jokic come into town?

@LiveHandlez

Ай бұрын

We ball out and out hustle they asses

Mikey’s not taking in the fact that that’s how the offense needed him to play in New Orleans.

Bush out of pocket with that trade package smh

Also im a pels fan. More than anything. They are shipping bi out because of his contract and the fact our owner gas and never will pay a luxury tax. Never. Theres not a pels coach. Gm or staff member that wont tell you brandon when healthy is easily the 2nd best player on that pelicans roster. The dude that said those that think bi is good are the ones who havent seen him play . Like the dude has no clue what hes talkint about. Trey murphy isnt wven close to the all around hooper bi is. Trey shoots 0-11 from 3 8 games in a row and than will go 7 for 11 for a couple games. Hes the streakiest shooter we have . He also cant do ANYTHING off the dribble. Stop talking abour bs. Trey isnt beint traded because zion needs 3pt shooters and thats it. We love trey. tons Of potential there. BUt even to say hes a way better defender is wrong. I thnk dude who said that shit is the one who hasnt seen brandon play . Or hes got a hard on for the one game trey played very well aganst cleveland last yr. Hes not that guy. Great catch and shoot guy from 3. Thats it right now. Anytime teams run him off the line to make him dribble he no where near as effective

Rather go after mikal bridges vs brandon Injured

@kdogglv

Ай бұрын

Mikal would be a perfect fit for the Cavse and exactly who we need!!

@o.g.thanos4706

Ай бұрын

Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson from nets or Jerami Grant, Malcom Brogdan and Robert Williams from Trailblazers.

@deadlifefr

Ай бұрын

@@o.g.thanos4706 I’d be stoked with either of those trades depending on how much they have to give up.

@LiveHandlez

Ай бұрын

I love bridges, I love Grant, and definitely Brogdon.

Mike is exactly like most cavs fans when you talking about trades. They don't want to make a trade unless you getting back a superstar for a bench player.

@ItzDallas_1

Ай бұрын

That's one of the reasons why we need to fire Koby Altman

Luka and Kyrie are 2 ball dominant guards. Why are we over looking the fact that there might be a coach that is good enough to scheme a offense and make these pieces fit

@JamesWalker-ky5yr

Ай бұрын

Luka and Kyrie are clutch, DG and Mitchell aren't. Cavs don't have a clutch shooter. DG lacks focus and smarts, but no guard would want to back court with Mitchell. Conley didn't. Brunson wouldn't. Besides, two small guards is a terrible idea in an era of big, defensive guards.

@rahimi4762

Ай бұрын

We need to start Levert with Mitchell. Since Mitchell can run offense we need a tall guard who can play make beside him. We can sign a true point guard as 6th or 7th man. Look at this: Trade Darius Garland and Georges Niang to the New Orleans Pelicans for Brandon Ingram. Keep Ty Jerome for his shooting. SF- Brandon Ingram (Traded For) PF - Evan Mobley C- Jarret Allan PG- Donovan Mitchell SG- Caris Levert PG- Buddy Hield/Spencer Dinwiddie/Kyle Lowry ( sign free agency) SF- Max Strus SF/SG/PF- Isaac Okoro (resign) C- Jonas Valanciunas (sign free agency) PF- Marcus Morris (resign) SG- Sam Merrill PF-Tauren Prince (sign free agency) PG- Ty Jerome PG- Craig Porter Jr PF/SF/C- Dean Wade PF/C- Tristan Thompson (resign) Emoni Bates Isaiah Mobley Pete Nance

@rahimi4762

Ай бұрын

Jonas V can shoot from the outside and rebound. He can pair with Mobley and Allen as a shooter. Caris Levert moves to starting lineup as the shooting guard to pair along side Mitchell who is now moved to point guard. We resign Morris because he is a leader, playoff experience, 3 and D guy. He also can pair with Mobley and Allen. Taurean Prince should come back to Cleveland. He is a PF that can stretch the floor and pair with Jonas, Mobley, Allen etc. This is an incredible front rotation. Add in a bonafide point guard like Buddy Heild, Spencer D or Kyle Lowry as 6th man with Strus and Okoro. Add in Morris, Jonas V, Prince, Wade. All tall and can go up against Boston, NY, Philly and Milwaukee. Even with Injuries this is solid and lots of playoff experience. Add in Ty Jerome when healthy can score and shoot the 3.

@rahimi4762

Ай бұрын

We need to start Levert with Mitchell. Since Mitchell can run offense we need a tall guard who can play make beside him. We can sign a true point guard as 6th or 7th man. Look at this: Trade Darius Garland and Georges Niang to the New Orleans Pelicans for Brandon Ingram. Keep Ty Jerome for his shooting. SF- Brandon Ingram (Traded For) PF - Evan Mobley C- Jarret Allan PG- Donovan Mitchell SG- Caris Levert PG- Buddy Hield/Spencer Dinwiddie/Kyle Lowry ( sign free agency) SF- Max Strus SF/SG/PF- Isaac Okoro (resign) C- Jonas Valanciunas (sign free agency) PF- Marcus Morris (resign) SG- Sam Merrill PF-Tauren Prince (sign free agency) PG- Ty Jerome PG- Craig Porter Jr PF/SF/C- Dean Wade PF/C- Tristan Thompson (resign) Emoni Bates Isaiah Mobley Pete Nance

@rahimi4762

Ай бұрын

Nothing but shooters and size off the bench. Versatile can play with any team.

That was thing was blowing me with jb we had players on the bench that could’ve played and probably made a difference but when he benched emoni was that someone that has to play to have a feel for the game for next year

Every time we talk about trading JA, it doesn't sit well. IF this rib injury didn't happen, would he even be talked about? I mean arguably the BEST if not 2nd best player in the post season and played phenomenally this year. Not to mention, he's level headed, well liked, good guy, likes Cleveland. I really hope he doesn't get traded. Love JA for this team and for the city of Cleveland.

@johnpatricksoltes5459

Ай бұрын

Yeah is so good but did you see mobley holding his own. Scoring 33pts in final game against the celtics. Their offence is also better with only 1 center. If I choose between Allen or mobley definitely mobley because of all nba defence potential

The right coach could get a ton out of brandon that folks think he doesnt have. Both times the pelicans got into the playoffs it was under bi .. yes hes had injury concerns. But played close to 70 games last year. His defense has majorly progressed and behind lebron youd be hard pressed to find a better facilitator at the forward spot than brandon. Dude drops dimes as hes able to see over the defense. Has aversged 20+ 5 straight years. Can score on anyone. If your worried about the okc series dont be. He was fresh off missing a whole month . The last playoff series he went into healthy against another #1 seed he put up 27/5/6 on 50/41/88 shooting splits. Him and mitchell would be insane . Especially the flare screens they could run for mitchell with bi creating

@gerryconstant4914

29 күн бұрын

Please tell this to Cavs management because Ingram, though a very nice player, does not work with Zoion.

We should really think about miles bridges from the hornets. Aside from off court problems, he’s a nice piece to add to the team

@johnpatricksoltes5459

Ай бұрын

He is not the level of Brandon Ingram. Miles bridges good if he have LaMelo but when creating his own offence his efficiency down

PG- Porter, Carrington(20th pick stud) SG- Mitchell, Hawkins SF- Ingram, Okoro PF- Durant, Morris or sign a vet to LM Center- Mobley, Tristan or sign a vet to LM Garland to Suns and Allen to Pelicans. Easy enough. lol

Cavs need to get their salary cap situation in order! If DM signs and EM gets the Max...that's when you need to put on the breaks until you absolutely find that last $$$ guy!

I would trade allen or mobley for BI and throw in caris and a pick or 2 in a heartbeat. The pels are going to need a rim protecting 5 and they have enough offense w dejonte murray being added. and potentially dg, donovan, BI, and mobley for starters would be deadly

How can anyone here talk about anyone’s fit when we don’t even know what the fit is we have a new coach and new staff coming we don’t know how they’re going to use this team … I would like Brandon Ingram and I feel we could get him for Allen and a utility player maybe okoro

@johnpatricksoltes5459

Ай бұрын

Keep okoro he is another trade asset Allen,Niang for ingram

@johnpatricksoltes5459

Ай бұрын

Then trade okoro for DFS

Yes, and anyone who says differently has an agenda.

Pels fan here: Ingram is so much better than Garland. I hate that straight up trade. We'd have to get Allen in there, too.

He would be an upgrade over Darius Garland..#jusayin😁😁.. depending on who else youd have to give up for him but a straight up Garland for Ingram?..i do that in a heartbeat

Change for the sake of change is the worst kind of trade. Listen up, UCSS.

Bulll funny asf he said so you’re speculating lol 😂

I think the Pelicans prefer Murray & Okungwu of Atlanta for Ingram. Garland is the fallback plan. I don't think the Pels want to trade CJ this year.

I disagree about Mitchell not being an 82 game PG. I think he played his best ball while he was doing that while Garland was out

Bull loves grilling Mike 😅

STOP trying to trade guys for no reason. KEEP ALLEN, you need him. Stop copying other teams who haven't won anything...

Defense?

lol. They admit Ingram future contract will financially handcuff the team but no one dares admit Mitchell future contract will also screw the team

sam Merrill as the starting shooting guard

Mikey literally said trey Murphy is waaay better than Ingram. I’m done with Mikey. Ingram is a scoring machine. Has a great inside game and jump shot, good passer and rebounder, and gets into the paint well. Can also shoot clearly over defenders.

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

Yeah mikey thinks he knows ball. Such a goob’.

@stevej1427

29 күн бұрын

@@thacryinggame trey Murphy did well but doesn’t have the ball skills Ingram has and is primarily a 3 guy. He’s still developing.

Just trade Garland idc who we get long as dat dude ain’t on the team no more 😂

If u don’t like DG wait until u BI (Taller DG)

@DocJoby

Ай бұрын

He provides better defending and rebounding because of his height and length.

@joshromero-burgan9860

Ай бұрын

He's a better player than dg point blank

@loganerb3952

Ай бұрын

@@DocJobyEXACTLY!! That’s what people fail to realize and that’s why the pairing of Mitchell and DG needs to be adjusted and is worse than the pairing of Mobley and Allen Mobley and Allen don’t space the floor but can screen, roll, dunk, post up and do some facilitating ON top of their amazing defense When DG doesn’t have the ball in his hands he doesn’t know what to do on offense and then will get picked on on defense. So when he doesn’t have control of the offense he is a net negative Atleast Ingram can provide some other things and then when it’s his turn to have the offense ran through him he can go for it. This is also why I do think their is a chance Mobley and Allen are still here next year but there is 0 chance that DG and Mitchell will both be here next year

Trade Mobley over Allen if Mobley wants 270 million... NO GO... TRADE HIM

Nobody says anything about Ty Jerome he was a good shooter I think he is missing or something

How about this? CLE gets BI/CJ/Nance NOP gets Garland/Allen/Merrill

@anthonyhall7623

Ай бұрын

BI and Garland is the starting point. The other pieces are negotiable. Garland isn't at his maximum playing without the ball. In Ingram's best two seasons (MIP/1 AS game) he took 6+ 3s/game and made 38%. The question is why he stopped shooting them. A new situation with a new coach maybe can get him shooting 3s again.

Brandon Ingram is absolutely NOT a fit. Cavs need more OFF-BALL players. Ingram would be another huge contract for a guy who's always injured, and needs the ball in his hands to be effective. PASS!

@pizzagod1538

Ай бұрын

Ya

@deadlifefr

Ай бұрын

Ingram is a good off ball scorer with the ability to facilitate though and off ball movement has to do more with effort by the player and scheming by the coach. He’s also an above average defender. I do agree with the injury prone part though.

@edwardjames8610

Ай бұрын

Thank you damn it’s like they supposed to know this shittt already I don’t like it

@bigman2564

Ай бұрын

🙏

@rollspikegaming7459

Ай бұрын

BI can play offball if given a good coach. not a good catch and shoot guy but good at one dribble pull up and cutting. he just needs a true point guard like Lonzo Ball.

He’s worth more than Darius Garland

Yes, he's a fit. Let's make this happen, Cavs.

@bigman2564

Ай бұрын

He stay hurt to much

I'd rather Keep Allen, I wanna 3 team trade give Ingram to Atlanta give Garland to New Orleans, WE take deJonte Murray from Atlanta... defense and automatic 6,5 from mid range 4 years 140 mil left...do it

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

Loser stuff

@dubbrown5594

21 күн бұрын

I would be cool with that

@Shu_boggs6

14 күн бұрын

That’s retarded

Pelicans don’t want Garland. Ingram for Allen and Levert.

Darius garland And jarret Allen for Ingram and Jordan Hawkins straight up or garland for keldon johnson branham and 2 second round picks id do these in a heartbeat

@beaks31

Ай бұрын

I want Zach Collins in that deal. Back up big or a stretch 5 next to evan

@jadenuniverse9541

Ай бұрын

@@beaks31 true I would do that to

@stevenhaymon2441

Ай бұрын

Why would I give up both players for Ingram? No way in hell I do that. Both of those trades would be a dud. I would be a pissed off fan.

@jadenuniverse9541

Ай бұрын

@@stevenhaymon2441 Because Mitchell and Mobley already do what they do but better and it becomes redundant that’s why we need to trade for fit this team pieces do not fit you can say JB this JB that no matter who coaches this team currently constructed they ain’t winning the chip

Bring in Emoni, Luke from Australia and draft a wing and let them develop and compete for the SF spot

@fcdraw

Ай бұрын

Do that and give Isaiah Mobley some more minutes at the 3

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

Sounds like a losing plan SMH

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

@@fcdrawLol you people are insufferable

@deadlifefr

Ай бұрын

Travers is not that good bro.

@deadlifefr

Ай бұрын

@@thacryinggame fr lol

Allen and levert for Ingram money adds up

Cavs need legit defender

DOES NOT FIT THE OFFENSE OR SPREAD THE FLOOR ENOUGH.

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

Lmao. But okoro does, correct?! 😂😂😂

I’m sending JA and Levert and this years first for Brandon Ingram.

@banditY2K

Ай бұрын

I'm glad you're not the Cavs GM

@darelleverette6098

Ай бұрын

@@banditY2K same I’m glad you aren’t either buddy 🤣

try to convince LBJ to come home, problem solved

These are horrible takes on Ingram. Hope he doesn't end up with the Cavs Trey is a better shooter and that's it. He's not a better leader, defender, scorer, facilitator, and rebounder Trey played 29 minutes last season vs 32 from Ingram Ingram averaged 20.9pts 49% on 15.9 shots Trey averaged 14.8pta 44% on 11.9 shots Trey isn't better. He fits with Zion and won't challenge him for number 1 Pels are picking Zion over Ingram. That's all that's happening. The narrative on B.I is crap right now. He's literally been the driving force for the Pels the last 3 years and got them to the playoffs without Z. 42 wins last year when Z played half a season and to the playoffs this year when Z went don't in the playins. He's also the reason they made it far in the IST I hope he goes where he's WANTED .

I am embarrassed for UCSS for this conversation Ingram ain’t it…DG is talent, Coaches make talent work…Forwards are why CAVS lose games…Mobley ain’t ready to be Center, can’t hold his spot…Plus CAVS don’t have a PG, DM isn’t a PG!

Maybe.. just maybe ..... we fired the coach because he didn't get enough out of DG....... maybe... just maybe..... you let the next coach do what JB couldn't. DG is a win you missed on Spuce and Niang

@rumplefuorskin5980

Ай бұрын

According to his camp, DG will ask for a trade when Mitchell extends

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

No. Idiot. You’re so naive.

I want Trey Murphy or Herb Jones or either Devon Vassell or Keldon Johnson

@deadlifefr

Ай бұрын

KJ is undersized and the spurs will not trade Vassell. I’m down with herb or Murphy though.

@AndrewPolander

27 күн бұрын

Keep your eyes on NO... Dyson Daniels, L.Nance and #21....they also have the Lakers unprotected #1 in 2025; Cavs don't have a pick that year!

Guess what, Garland isn’t the answer. We’ve seen two years of Garland and Mitchell. They can’t coexist. Garland was an All star when Mitchell wasn’t here. Move on from Garland. I’ll take 6’9 driver and creating forward over a small PG who defers all the time. Get Ingram now while cheap.

Regardless what yall think about Ingram the Cavs need to find a robin for dg (cuz he unreliable)

No one mentioned terrible attitude and lousy personality… we need dogs surrounding Don.

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

You mean like garland? Ingram is a dog. Tf

So you think Ingram (who didn't look great this year in pels 4 playoff games avg 36 minutes to get 14-5-3...) is the answer for us in the playoffs? I'm sorry, but IDK about that one. LeBron sure would be a PERFECT fit right now though.

@saint520

Ай бұрын

U going off year when he was hurt before he even got in the playoffs go to year prior when he averaged 27 7 7

@rumplefuorskin5980

Ай бұрын

@@saint520 he hasn't played a full season yet though so if he's constantly injured what is his true worth

@kerrywashington4217

Ай бұрын

@@rumplefuorskin5980 How many NBA players play the whole year without injuries and missing games?

@rumplefuorskin5980

Ай бұрын

@@kerrywashington4217 good point, so you think Ingram is a perfect fit?

@saint520

Ай бұрын

@@rumplefuorskin5980 gotta look at it as well he on one of the worst franchises had different coach every year since his rookie year name one coach he had that still head coach right now ? Beside Willie green and ppl question his coaching skills

3ND 3ND 3ND 3ND 3ND 3ND

Cavs don't need to make any major moves this off season. People are overreacting to the loss last year to the Knicks and this year to the Celtics. They just need a coach to get Garland and Mitchell to play together or at most move Garland to the bench. As for Mobley and Allen, the new coach should make Mobley take more mid range and 3 pt shots especially with Allen on the floor. If you do trade Allen you need another defensive anchor. Mobely is good but not as good as Allen as a defensive anchor. The other thing they need is a defensive wing. They should develop Bates or Luke Travers or get a 3 and D player for cheap.

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

Go. Away.

@rumplefuorskin5980

Ай бұрын

Bro tell me why Rich Paul wants to get DG out of Cleveland if Donovan extends? Coach doesn't change that right

@fcdraw

Ай бұрын

@@rumplefuorskin5980 he like many dumb Cavs fans think that a 40 year old LeBron and his nepotism draft son who shouldn't even be considered for the league would be better in Cleveland than their current starting PG.

Emoji Bates can’t defend!! He’s a few years away…maybe.CJ McCollum gives you another undersized, backcourt!! Glad you are not our gm.

we gotta stop pretending mike has some great basketball knowledge lmao

@deadlifefr

Ай бұрын

He’s iffy when it comes to evaluating players but in terms of on court knowledge he knows more than most people.

@thacryinggame

Ай бұрын

@@deadlifefr no

Mark Jackson as head coach ...fire Luke Walton and bring back MARKENNAN...somehow...and K Love as backup big...bring up Emoni Bates...get Bronny James as 3rd backup pg...have Lebron take a hometown discount and come back to Cleveland to retire...sign Facu Compazzo as 2nd backup pg...Get rid of Tristan Thompson...trade Caris Levert and maybe Darius Garland ...if you can get Mykal Bridges....cut Niang to make space for Emoni Bates....keep Struss...high IQ player...and lastly draft ...Dalton Kchnect ...or ...that one shooter...Reed Sheppard.....thats what i would do...if i was GM of the CLEVELAND CAVALIERS!!!!....seriously...and i wont even get STARTED on the CLEVELAND BROWNS....oh and i almost forgot...bring LUKE TRAVERS to our gleague team....hes a 6ft 8 pg....same height as shai gilgeous alexander

Garland is only 24 years old what really hurt us is Jarrett Allen being soft and not playing. I don’t understand how these so called sports experts really don’t know shitttt

The cavs don’t want to win.

Worst kept secret in the nba is Pelicans will trade Ingram!..No interest...has missed a ton of games the last 3 years,..has only 1 year left on his contract and he is looking for the bag$$$...not a good defensive player...not a good 3 pt. shooter...NO thanks... Very worried that Koby is about to get HOODWINKED by Griff!!

No Ingram

Mike is horrible

NO

Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!