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Is BATIK AIR As Bad As People Say? 6 Hours on a Low Cost 737!
I was told this airline was terrible. I decided to book a flight on them anyway to see what they were like. I didn't expect this...
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I love the fact that 4 and half hours of this flight is over Australia. This is something I remember every time I went to Singapore that 2/3rds of the flight was just spent crossing Australia!
Happy to see a new one! Had a very sad couple of weeks, and these trips always help, for whatever reason. 😊
Noel: “How will I survive a cramped six-hour flight on a narrowbody?” Any American flying a coast-to-coast west-bound domestic flight: “That’s adorable.”
@paulshields2220
Жыл бұрын
Or most flights to South America too. COPA is a 737 only company and they fly all the way to Chili BraIl and Argentina on 737 -800 and 900’s from Panama along with destinations across North America too
@Viperion101
Жыл бұрын
Especially on a 737. At least on an Airbus there’s a little bit more room. Also other countries don’t have to deal with the sheer number of big n’ wide people we have here. Not even just obese people just BIG MF’s
@Wolverines77
Жыл бұрын
Lol, try flying from McGuire AFB, NJ to Rhein-Main AB/Frankfurt Intl on an old single aisle DC-8 with an extra 5 or more rows of seats crammed into it... Did that three times and the last 5 trips were on crammed in DC-10's...
@andyreynolds6194
Жыл бұрын
*laughs in Ryanair*
@diegomauriciobravogonzalez1272
Жыл бұрын
@@andyreynolds6194 🤣
Looking forward to seeing how you continued your journey to Jakarta Noel but with no real worry. There are so many flights every day from Denpasar to Jakarta that you'd have to be astonishingly unlucky not to get a seat.
I flew Malindo from BKK to Melbourne in the premium cabin and loved it. Reminded me of upstairs in a 747.
Hi Noel another great vid. I’ve flown on the 737 max 8. A fantastic aircraft and I’ve always felt safe on them. It’s amazing how big Australia actually is. Remember flying from Bangkok to Sydney and most the flight was spent over Australia. Also love the diddly squat t shirt!
@marcd6897
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, now you can. Because a few hundred poor souls had to pay the highest price before a greedy corporation changed their course and fixed that darn plane.
@chdreturns
10 ай бұрын
Fantastic aircraft? 😂 Its only fantastic at one thing, wrenching control from the pilots hands and nosediving itself into the ground. Should have stayed grounded.
I really appreciate your humor!! Always a word or phrase that makes we smile!!
I loved the video a lot! Seeing airlines from places I've never been to is amazing, and that arrival was stunning! Denpasar is definitely only my list! I have always loved the MAX ever since it came out, and I still do! I've been on SO MANY MAX's in my time, and I've never felt anything less than 150% safer on them.
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Was doing a flight in the simulator from Australia to Singapore and I remember taking a nap while the flight was cruising over Australia, and when I woke up, I was STILL flying over Australia 😂😂
Great vlog as always! Keep up the good work. Be safe!
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
Great and entertaining video as always Noel! I am by no means an expert on Batik Air Malaysia / Malindo Air but I believe that their new cabins do feature in-flight entertainment, but most of the MAX-8 aircraft are ex-Lion Air planes and have not been reconfigured for Batik Air Malaysia. The new cabins also feature Business Class recliner seats. And btw Batik Air Malaysia is Sortof a Hybrid airline unlike Lion Air which is low cost and sucks. Let’s hope they get that fixed soon since 6 hours without IFE… 😬 keep it up mate!
Thanks Noel for your willingness to be in claustrophobic position for 6 hours
great video mate keep em coming!
i flew Malindo a few years ago before they renamed to batik. flight was from MEL-DPS return and it was a definite experience... given the price of the tickets it's hard to complain too much about the lack of service (it was like $400aud return after i added luggage etc)... if you're on a budget it's no worse than jetstar, but it's not something i'm keen to repeat personally :)
Thanks for taking us along Noel! Have to say I love your t-shirt! Didddly Squat Farm! Lol
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Wow, ace. At least the seats were comfy, sound vid Noel.
Noel brilliant review ! As an enthusiast there were some very exotic colour schemes to be seen on departure and arrival of your great Max8 flight .😀
They’re really trying to dominate the market in a big way in parts of Australia, between Batik Indonesia and Batik Malaysia they’re currently running about 25 to 30 flights a week out of Perth to DPS and KUL and curiously applied for traffic rights to fly KUL-PER-AKL recently. Will be interesting to see where they’re at in the next few years particularly as some of the routes they want to fly really push the limits of the MAX 8’s range e.g KUL-MEL.
@victortangokilo9562
Жыл бұрын
Batik Air should merge with Boutique Air and Lufthansa and form BaBuLu Airlines. And then Noel could do a BaBuLu Loo Review.
@rdbchase
Жыл бұрын
According to Wikipedia, Boeing planned to increase the MAX 8's range to 3,610 nmi after 2021 (but aircraft now in service have a range of 3,515 nmi); since the flying distance from KUL to MEL is 3,405 nmi, I wouldn't think the MAX 8 could fly this route given fuel reserve requirements.
@Squeetube
Жыл бұрын
@@rdbchase It starts in 2 weeks, OD174 / OD175. I'm real curious to see if they manage to pull it off without unscheduled fuel stops...
@marcusianaviation9372
Жыл бұрын
What happens if let’s say they are flying the MAX on the MEL-KUL route, and there is adverse weather at KUL and all the surrounding airports (let’s say there is a Peninsular Malaysia-wide rainstorm or something). What are they gonna do? It would already be almost out of fuel by then, is it not even a bit dangerous? Just curious
@MalaysianAviator737-8
11 ай бұрын
@@marcusianaviation9372 I think they limit the range of the MAX to the longest legal flight range before the usage of the final reserve fuel so they should be able to divert to say WMKJ or WMKP which are rather closeby, a roughly 30 mins flight from WMKK
Wow, Brissy airport looked SO different - except for the tiled-floor arrival hall. Mind you, I was there circa 2003 or so. Glad your flight was pretty good, Noel - especially for such a tall, big westerner (no slights, mate, I've been there myself - and I was only 5'11" - but muscly - not a skeleton, so, to them, I was 'BIG".) Enjoying your vids, mate. Cheers!
Hey Noel... Love the videos, and the sense of humor ;) With all these flights , what status are you holding on the airlines and is it worth attempting to get to those higher levels in order to be able to upgrade etc? Keep the videos coming , especially the ones where you are crammed in cos they are funniest haha
Another great video! Looks like a good way fly. Beautiful new aircraft with nice seats.
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I flew on a brand new 2022 Max 8 with Southwest. Very smooth ride. I got to ride on a -800 before hand and hands down the Max 8 was way more comfortable, and had more leg room with the slim seats.
"737 MAX is super duper safe, nothing else could possibly happen to these" sure didn't age well......
@ryankeller4431
3 ай бұрын
really sad how I heard this comment so much and how wrong everyone was.
@leNnard_
2 ай бұрын
May I ask what happened?
@hulishi
Ай бұрын
@leNnard_ door blow off one in flight. The investigation shows that, like before, the company put the priorities on the numbers instead of safety.
Thanks for flying these airlines Noel. Always really interesting
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
Great share, I am glad you had better than expected experience with airline. As far as Max, I agree with your assessment. That said to bad you couldnt spend more time in Bali. That said I am surprised you had so many lines to go through. I been to bali many years ago. First time I did have Visa on Arrival, but I not even sure it took me 20 minutes to go from Airplane to baggage through customs and immigration including buying visa. More recent times, Bali no longer for Americans required such so very quick. That said, I havent been to Bali since they reopened due to covid, so that is understandably extra time.
Thanks a lot Great Noel, I was wondering how you will jump over those two passengers to go for a loo review but actually you made.
For the 737 max. I’ve been on a lot of them. Transport Canada had so many strict protocols for them to return to the sky so I definitely feel very safe on them!
@ryankeller4431
3 ай бұрын
how do you feel now?
Great report, Noel. Enjoyed your milk run. Stay safe.
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Hey Noel, I recently flew this flight and had the opposite experience. It was bloody terrible. 2 hour delay leaving Brisbane, and almost missed by two connecting domestic flight/s within Indonesia. Incredibly stressful experience and I will simply pay extra for malay/Singapore next time.
Hi Noel, I thought you would fly from Brisbane to Perth, then take the 787 Dreamliner back home to London, a 17.5-hour flight. Great video as always. Keep up the awesome work. Safe travels.
@davidwolfhudson
Жыл бұрын
He did LHR-PER on a previous video, probably didn’t want to repeat
Hope you made it to Jakarta Noel. An absolutely amazing city. I hope to get back there one day in the near future.
I agree! Your in economy more then most of the other travel channels out there for sure. 👍🏾
I had 6 and half hours on a Virgin Australian 737 from Christchurch in New Zealand to Melbourne in Australia & onto Brisbane,seating in economy was cramped but the food was very good though.
I flew Malindo in their "Business Class' fom KL to Bali to Melbourne. Had the exact same experience as you, incredibly impressive.
Thanks for sharing Noel 👍
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
I'm glad that you thought the flight was good! I flew this exact route with Batik Air in September from Brisbane to Bali. The flight overall was decent, seats were comfortable enough, tickets were expensive but inflation what can you do, I just wish I knew about no inflight entertainment ahead of time. It made for a really boring flight but I downloaded some shows for the return flight.
@Lazymotion
Жыл бұрын
Batik actually used to have a touchscreen monitor on every seat around 5-6 years ago. It was very entertaining. No idea why they removed it though.
Batik is the full service company of the Lion Air Group, Lion (a budget airline) is the Original airline from Indonesia, Malindo is the Malaysian Lion Air, Thai Lion is the Thai version of Lion Air and Wings is the 'budget' Lion Air (also flying local minor routes using ATR-72s).
I knew this video is about Batik Air Malaysia and i track your flight to Bali actually. As an Indonesian viewer, Batik Air Indonesia and Malaysia are the full service airline of Lion Air Group and not a low cost. Before 9M-LRF, it was previously being operated by Lion Air but Lion Air doesn't want this plane anymore for a few reasons. Now, 9M-LRF is operated by Batik Air Malaysia previous name Malindo Air. I love this video👍
@elliebabyfish9145
Жыл бұрын
Interested to know why Lion Air didn’t want this plane
@DevonRexLady
Жыл бұрын
Not full service, meals, snacks and drinks not included in economy class.
@fpsnashamdan7362
11 ай бұрын
Can someone inform me what is the best airline to fly from Jakarta to Bali Denpasar Airport ?
@TechAndi2
10 ай бұрын
@@fpsnashamdan7362Garuda
@user-hh7oj2og8b
20 күн бұрын
@@fpsnashamdan7362 Garuda and Citylink
Love those late night, early morning shuttle airport puckups
Hi Noel! Love your videos. Love your voice!
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Teppi9076
Жыл бұрын
@@noelphilips Thank you Lord!!!
The comments about the safety of the max 8 have aged well given the recent event... 😂
Great video Noel
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like your reports on the economy seats ... nice
Yeah thanks for the Solomon Airline A320 at 7:53, my country's airline. try us some time!
Don’t worry there are plenty of flights from DPS to CGK. You will get your connecting easily.
Looking forwards to your see how you continued your flight. If you come to Melbourne next time, I would gladly show you around such as dinner in Lygon Street and the drive down the Great Ocean Rd to Apollo Bay.
Hey Noel, thanks for another great video, Just looking at the food, and you've been so many places, have to managed to avoid food poisoning? Not a name and shame but you either have ayou had bad airline food that you felt unwell after?
it's nice to see that you were enjoying batik air. and about Lyon air they're known for their flight delays and cancelations, Lyon air is definitely one of the worst airways in Indonesia, for the best I'd say Garuda Indonesia. But overall great video, I enjoyed it. Keep it up :)
@nickgiovanni6518
Жыл бұрын
Garuda is the flagship carrier c’mon they are going to be the best for 🇮🇩 carriers
I actually appreciated your foray into Cebu Pacific’s all Economy A330, so I for one know that you’re NOT always in Business Class. Cheers and happy travels!
"They marked you as 2" Noel "I thought I lost weight" 😆😅🤣
Love the t-shirt!!
Flying for six hours in economy isn't optimal, but it is certainly ok. That airline seems to have quite a good experience in economy. Thanks for showing this.
Hey Noel!!! Shout out to Jezza's farm lol 😆 nice t-shirt 👌 cheers mate for the latest content!!! ✌️
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
i too like riding on the max-8, very smooth
I flew malindo a couple years ago, I quite liked it actually, after experiencing Vietjet airlines as a tall person
love your t shirt lovely flight i always relax when i fly with you greetings from the netherlands
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Loved the Rex video, was hoping you were going to do a few more flights or train trips whilst in Australia :( Will you be back anytime soon?
I did this in 2009 with Virgin Australia quite a haul in a 737 they were Virgin Blue back then
Good video! Thank you!
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
I need that Diddly Squat Farm t-shirt!
12:50 another issue amongst the countless others that go unreproted at being....finished? nah chief still in business lol
You should start introducing the bell challenge. How long does it take for them to get to you.
didnd see the free meal -so thumbs up from me. by the way on interfug, cubana, tarom(il62 m+tu154m planes) the free dinner was 5 stars. eastberlin - havanna (cubana+interflug)or munich - tel aviv(tarom) for example
'if anything else happened to a max 8 Boeing would be done ...' still feeling so safe Noel?
@zahrans
5 ай бұрын
😁😅
A new adventure indeed begins in a new place for you, Indonesia even if that stay may only be short! but one day, you'll hit up the new capital Nusantara in just 2 years time! You just may be back there one day!
I flew the Max on Air Canada a couple of weeks ago. Great plane. Quiet and roomy. I hope Malaysian Batik is a safer operator than Indonesian operators. Flying Lion Air you deserve a medal.
@thedpstraveller
Жыл бұрын
batik air malaysia is very very different from lion air, yes owned by them true but certainly not the same as lion air
@mariachrzski18
Жыл бұрын
I love the Air Canada MAX 8! Have proudly flown it twice.
@Sierraomega1991
Жыл бұрын
Bear in mind a year before the crash lion air where raising concerns about the 737 max and got told to shut up by Boeing and southwest
@WeMuckAround
Жыл бұрын
I’ve only ever flown one narrow body long haul and that was the 757 on LHR-EWR about 10 years ago. But I just can’t get my head around being in such a small space like a 737 for that long. Compared to my last transatlantic flight, a BA A380, it was so nice to have tall ceilings and wide cabins.
@295g295
Жыл бұрын
737-MAX .. means more time on a smaller-width airplane.
Max 8? You are braver than I am for flying one of those dangerous planes.
Love the Jezza Clarkson diddly squat t shirt 👍
I had a chance to ride a MAX 8 Between Gatwick and Faro, Portugal (Both ways) with Tui last month. As my previous flight 6 years prior was in an A380 (BA), I was very surprised to find the little aircraft to be just as (if not slightly more) comfortable than the latter.
@roycarpenter6380
Жыл бұрын
I think an A380 would probably overshoot into the sea at Faro !! A320 ?
@AdamaBanana
Жыл бұрын
@@roycarpenter6380 My A380 flight was to Los Angeles back in 2016. Perhaps, I should have clarified.
@marcd6897
Жыл бұрын
Adama : you do realize that the aircraft operator determines how comfortable the plane is, not the aircraft manufacturer, right? I suppose you knew, but you just wanted to do some Airbus bashing 😂
bought a ridge wallet years before you advertised it. finally broke it abd bought another. proapably cvould have done the thing to have them fix it but why worry. i like it and bought annother:) they are good!
You seem lucky to have quite a smooth landing. Most people experienced rough and hard landing when they touched down in Denpasar.
good report ...and , you're courageous flying with Lion Air 😜🤙..fly safe...😉
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Hi Noel - just an idea, I think it would be interesting for us to see what routes the airlines you go on cover (see their route structure), and whether your flights are full or not. I'm not sure if you include the costs but that would be interesting as well. Thank you.
Hello Noel. Great videos. Could you tell me when you booked and paid for the flight? Malindo's website itself only mentioned 'from A$569 fares' for BNE to DPS. Thanks
Haha that diddly squat farm t shirt!! I never knew you love jezza (Jeremy clarkson) 😂😂
8:00 aaah, F-28. Really miss the pair of those RR Spey's *howl*
Thanks for this vlog. Fly and stay safe. Happy weekend. Ciao.
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lawrenceakini9507
Жыл бұрын
@@noelphilips you’re welcome!
Hi Noel - Just as a point of interest, do you ever have problems filming at the airport (s)?
Loving the t-shirt ❤😂
Malindo was one of my chosen way to fly to Australia. It's hugely better than Lionair. They used to have A320's. All seats had video screens. What a disappointment they changed. Noel, I live in Jakarta if you have need of a tour guide. LOL
@SinarJayaOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Batik Air Indonesia mengoprasikan Boeing dan Airbus. Sedangkan Batik Air Malaysia mengoprasikan Boeing dan ATR. Semua Boeing Max Lion Air di transfer ke Batik Air Malaysia karena penumpang Indonesia takut untuk menaikinya meskipun telah dinyatakan aman. Tetapi traumatis orang indonesia terhadap hal buruk itu sulit dihilangkan bahkan sampai ke generasi ke 2. Karena pada dasarnya orang indonesia ingatan tentang hal buruk dan baik akan selalu dikenang sampai mati. Ini yang sulit bagi operator Lion Air mempertahankan Max di indonesia.
I hate that they change the name Malindo to Batik air Malaysia when the offer is closer to lion air and different from the actual batik air
@SinarJayaOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Karena efek insiden Max. Semua pesawat pesanan Max Lion Air dan Thai Lion Air ditransfer ke Batik Air Malaysia dengan konfigurasi kursi Ekonomi. Sedangkan Batik Indonesia menambah pesawat Airbus 320 dan Boeing 737-800 dengan konfigurasi Bisnis dan ekonomi. Sedangkan Lion dan Thai lion akan menambahkan armada Boeing 737-800/900.
As an Aussie I’m be flown with malindo/batik air and it’s actually not bad. They serve a complimentary hot meal but no alcohol as they’re dry. Had IFE and usb charging for similar price to other airlines. Most other airlines flying to Indonesia from aus are budget carriers, some with even more questionable safety standards. I didn’t mind batik air
The Pullman is one of my favs in Brissy
The people complaining about you only flying business class..is ridiculous..apparently they don't watch enough of your wonderful channel. So happy you and your family live in America now.. Welcome!!!!
Adelaide International Airport (YPAD) 4am open, coffee available at that time also pity that Brisbane is so behind us here in Adelaide (yes I'm from Adelaide)
As a Top Gear/ Clarkston fan I love the Diddily Squat Shop t-shirt.
Had I known you were coming to Brisbane I would've happily shouted you a meal featuring our reef and beef delicacies. Maybe next time!
If you haven't already done so (and I don't think you have) you should try to fly Luxair one of these days. I would be very interested what you make of them. 🙂
As a Perth based frequent flyer who often visits Asia, I find batik to be quite good as far as budget carriers. I would certainly choose them over Jetstar (unless I was flying out of somewhere I can take advantage of my Qantas membership) Back when they used to serve food for free the barbecue chicken was fantastic. There planes can vary significantly unfortunately, most have inflight entertainment but don't provide headphones (back from their full service days I guess)
You seemed to have been very comfortable on that flight giving everything a good report. It was interesting to see the attractive airport in Bali - I was there on a Qantas stopover once on a dark and stormy night, and as we flew out towards Australia all I could think was "if this plane goes down, that ocean is full of sharks".
@habu179
Жыл бұрын
Apart from no legroom.....?
@janettesinclair6279
Жыл бұрын
@@habu179 He seemed OK with the legroom.
@habu179
Жыл бұрын
@@janettesinclair6279 Seemed......
@francoiss6911
Жыл бұрын
@@habu179 he literally said “I’ve got plenty of legroom, even at 6”4” 16:25
@habu179
Жыл бұрын
@@francoiss6911 Check the video dummy....his knees are brushing the seat infront (regardless of what he says) believe what you see and not what you hear !
Another great vid. Just a question, what flight tracker do you use in-flight that uses gps?
@realbpeti21
Жыл бұрын
That'd be nice to know
You make a very good point on the max 8 actually. If anything was to happen to another Boeing would be screwed. So they have done the most checks to any plane in the world to make it certified again. But I still would feel more nervous getting on one then a normal 737 as to me for Boeing to even let the max fly without all this stuff at first makes me fear what else they could be cheaping out on. I know they wouldn't as it would ruin Boeing just a psychological thing I think.
@steffenp7817
5 ай бұрын
That aged like milk😅
@RoryHanna
5 ай бұрын
@@steffenp7817 Yikes. I mean I did say I didn't think Boeing would let it happen but they have...
Had a trans-Atlantic flight on Westjet 737-800 (not a MAX) seven and a half hours from Dublin to Toronto in September. Somewhat odd as I flew on a Westjet 787 Dreamliner from Calgary to Dublin in early September.
Last time I fly with batik/ malindo, there were entertaiment screen. Idk why they using non-entertaiment screen fleet for international haul flight like this. But I agree with the food, its decent and sometimes you had indian briyani/ tandoori, which really good.
11:37 Noel : "It's definitely chicken" Me watching in front of laptop drinking coffee : Yepp.......
We unfortunately had to go on a Batik Air flight as Turkish Airlines use them on some flights to Australia. It was more basic than Ryanair and I was pretty annoyed we had to buy food and drinks not knowing anythjng anout the airline!
Now that you are on this side of the pond, have you thought of doing IAH to ANC on United, or maybe PTY to SFO on COPA? I know the COPA flight is 7 hours on a 737 Max or 900.
Thanks for the review. New subscriber here
@noelphilips
Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
It’s very sad what happened to all those people on the Max incidents Absolutely tragic and preventable
What a pleasant journey.