Is Assassin's Creed Odyssey REALLY That Bad?!
Assassin's Creed has gone through a plethora of changes due to fan burnout. Odyssey marks the largest step away from the series norm as it goes full RPG. Lock went back to it. Is it a bloated mess?!
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There's a large group of people that would consider this one of the best ones. I genuinely think the Ubisoft hate goes beyond the people who actually play the games
@michaeldrake798
Ай бұрын
Yuppp
@bdashrye182
Ай бұрын
Yep, beaten it 3 times. It's turned into my guilty pleasure game.
@tezkhaos
Ай бұрын
The game really has little to do with AC so I would understand where a long-time fan could be coming from if they don't like it. But taken by itself, I think it's top 5 in terms of Ubisoft's output over the past decade.
@jmako979
Ай бұрын
@@tezkhaos not a great AC game but a great game in general really does describe the experience
@chandlerlowell5
Ай бұрын
In a part of that group. Absolutely love this game sank hundreds upon hundreds of hours into it. And the fact that once your character is full level you can basically min max stats for your playstyle like it’s Diablo. Insane how fun this game is
I actually really enjoyed my time with this game. Yeah, it wandered quite a bit from being a true Assassin's Creed game, but it's a solid RPG. It's basically Great Value brand The Witcher 3 in Greece, and that's okay lol
@Dustin-pb7nm
Ай бұрын
I hope not I hate the combat in Witcher 3 it could've been better was excited to play it till you made that comparison. Witcher 3 is not as good as people act and it's definitely hyped up over the nudity vs how good the gameplay is and I loved reading the Witcher and the Netflix show.
@klepTeevee
27 күн бұрын
@@Dustin-pb7nmmy brother you are tweaking hard
@Dustin-pb7nm
27 күн бұрын
@@klepTeevee actually no I'm clean and sober. I loved the game it just wasn't as good as they said it is and it's not better than oblivion or Skyrim. The combat in it in some ways is better but the the sword swinging animations could've been way better. As a whole it's not a better game than many other games there's stuff it does right and things it does wrong.
@user-sf3ns6ed3g
20 күн бұрын
@@Dustin-pb7nmSkyrim sucks. Even Starfield is better
@Dustin-pb7nm
19 күн бұрын
@@user-sf3ns6ed3g Skyrim does suck compared to oblivion your right but the witcher isn't better overall.
Lockmort, it's great hearing you on here! You and Matty teaming up was absolutely a genius move. This is the first of your (Lockmort) videos I've caught on this channel and I love it. The fact that Matty can step away a bit to work on his dozens of other things while you get to have more media presence and show your skills go beyond editing and podcasting, just wonderful. Look forward to more from you both!
Fwiw: I'm subscribed to this channel because of Matty, and I enjoy this channel. Also fwiw: Lock: you are awesome, and I love this channel more because you're a face-front part of it now. Thanks for adding greatness.
@tiffanyreynolds4520
Ай бұрын
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@LockmortEdits
Ай бұрын
I still occasionally go back to Odyssey just to spend time in the world. Played all the story and DLC, cleared the map, played conquests till Sparta ran all it could. I'm pretty much like that with most open worlds I like the aesthetic of. Mainly that I spend a long time just running around doing whatever. Odyssey was a pretty relaxing way to experience ancient Greece. Tho I'll say it definitely was that shift where AC wasn't really about the Assassins throughout anymore. Same with Valhalla. I think it's cool that they wanna lean into the fantastical elements of history and having the Pieces of Eden bring them forth. But its one of those "can't please everyone" sort deals. Do you lean into realism or embrace fantastical elements? Mirage tried to go back to a more realistic (as realistic as AC usually was anyways). I'm sure there's a balance somewhere, maybe they'll figure it out. Maybe the answer was to create another series entirely, but then it wouldn't sell like AC
@joelbecker5389
Ай бұрын
I sometimes go back to Odyssey for the same reason. There are also still plenty of quests, even after putting about 120 hours into the game.
Its a great game, people wouldn't whine about it so much if it didn't have "Assassins Creed" in the title.
@soraceant
Ай бұрын
Accurate
@kbdc
Ай бұрын
I enjoyed it cause I treated it like it wasn't an AC game. However, I still haven't finished it due to the sheer size of the game. The game is bloated but Vallhalla takes the cake with that imo
@kademarlowe1419
Ай бұрын
@kbdc absolutely. I was able to finish Odyssey after a few months but Valhalla... I just regret buying the season pass before playing the game. It was fun to an extent but it was too much
As my first AC game, it is absolutely my favorite. Combat, Stealth, and Graphics are all amazing, and even the map is nice.
It all depends on the perspective of the individual players. As someone who’s favorite games in the series are AC1 through AC Revelations, Odyssey isn’t what I want from an AC game. The story and tone of an AC game was always key for me so the change in direction from emphasis on the philosophical and serious themes of those stories to more lighthearted and mythological themes of the beer games was not something that I would like. That doesn’t mean I don’t have fun with it because as a mindless action RPG I was able to put a lot of hours into it so I don’t begrudge people for liking the game. The only thing I can’t truly understand about people who like the game is why people like the DLC which seem just so cheap, bizarre, and truly nonsensical
Odessy is a great game, one of the most fun open world kind of games I’ve played, the hate it gets is from cringey people who never leave their gaming chair complaining it’s not exactly the same as the ezio collection
Game was great. Favorite Assassin's creed. Exploring and combat was fun. The others are so repetitive I get bored except for black flag. Black flag was my 2nd favorite. I've played them all but never was really enjoying it until black flag. The other worldly bosses and naval combat was fun. The cult had actual cool members not just some random guy in the market. I really enjoyed the story. Lost me in valhalla it was a worse version of Odyssey. Spartan kick is still my favorite move. Spent over 100 hours on that damn game. Me and my friends still talk about how fun the naval combat was in odyssey and black flag.
@ourshit5725
Ай бұрын
🎯
This is my favorite one. Its beautiful. It’s amazing. All the filler people complain about is literally optional, you do enough of it during the main quest to be leveled sufficiently. I had to grind one time I think a couple levels. People complaining about nothing.
@MichaelOdendaal
Ай бұрын
Its not an assassin creed game. Thats why most people don’t like it.
@Munchkkinz
Ай бұрын
@@MichaelOdendaal way too much complaining about "traditional ac" the game was FUN, you could easily play stealth only. this got overly hated on jus bc it focused on the esu rather than brotherhood/templars.
@ac_nerd9794
Ай бұрын
@@MichaelOdendaalIts an AC game most definitely. Some problems but the game is easily one of Ubisoft's best.
@ourshit5725
Ай бұрын
@MichaelOdendaal most of those old AC games were ASSS 💯
@ArnikaandMe
29 күн бұрын
@@ourshit5725have you even played them
Ngl I hated this game for the same reasons everyone else did. But halfway through It started growing on me and I kinda love it now
My favourite AC title. It´s a must play for everyone who loves ancient greece.
It was great in my opinion and easily my favorite so far. The only real issue is like all the newer ones so far where when you aren't in a mission or doing something specific the world felt a bit bland and like a painting you could only mostly just stare at and say, " Pretty. " Odyssey was a bit better than origins to me for this bc instead of vast deserts we had oceans and at least there we had ship combat. Valhalla had mini games and fishing etc., but the story that let you do it in whatever order you wanted felt like a bunch of bland mini campaigns that weren't really connected well and no single one stood out as being that different from the previous region.
I love this game, but I love it as a Greek themed RPG lite, not an Assassins Creed game, it features almost nothing from the series, but if you look at it on its own its pretty fun
I tried and failed to get into assassin's creed many times but couldn't get into it until Origins, i ended up going back and enjoying most the others but never was as entertained as i was by Origins until i played Odyssey
This was one of the best games I've ever played
This was actually a game I finished I don’t finish a lot of games I loved odyssey
Odyssey was one of my most favorite Assassin's Creed games absolutely loved it currently playing Valhalla but are not such a big fan of it.
The good old days are gone Assassin's Creed 1 2 Trilogy and Black Flag were the best ones after that no thank you
i actually enjoyed the first 40hrs but man when it hit the 50hr mark and i still had to grind and grind i just got fed up, the last 30hrs felt super rough and i had to drag myself to finish it.
@Sharvictus
Ай бұрын
It took me on and off many months to finish it.
@BerzerkNoah
Ай бұрын
wdym grind the games super easy and the level grind is pretty fast,
@londonisforeverblue1022
Ай бұрын
@@BerzerkNoah grinding isn't about difficulty it's about fun, and the grind in this game and most games are far from anything fun
I 100% Origins, Odyssey, & Valhalla and don't regret a single second.
I love Odyssey since the day of release. I even like it better than Valhalla. I am a huge fan of Greek mythology so this game was like opening a birthday present. Fighting mythological creatures, meeting known figures like Sokrates or Alkibiades was just amazing.
@anthonyojedaflores6463
Ай бұрын
Valhalla is kinda boring especially the story and how boring the world is along with the characters
@MultiKamil97
Ай бұрын
@@anthonyojedaflores6463 Yeah, we do the same thing over and over. Go to A, make a new king, go to B, make a new king and so on and on. On top of that the story is so convoluted that by the end I couldn't realise what was going on.
@anthonyojedaflores6463
Ай бұрын
@@MultiKamil97 I like origins a lot problem the combat is kinda stale
This sounds like true gamer community reasoning. For us females and those who enjoy games with scenery, storyline, emotional ups and downs…this is a GREAT game. It is understandable that die hard AC fans and the younger crowd will not understand the concept of this game nor want to divulge into anything that they could actually learn something without killing every 5 minutes. 😂
This game was not for 'Assassin's Creed the early games' fans. It's for the newer fans to introduce them to the franchise itself. For RPG fans, this game was superb.
the atlantis dlc made this game 10x better
one of my favorite modern action rpgs.
Love the game but 15-20 hours too long. The map is insane!
I like the OG AC games but I just felt they kind of got a little stale after a while. Odyssey and origins are probably my number 2 favorite assassin's creed games. Mainly because I really love the Witcher 3 and they have inspiration from that so to me those 2 are my favorites. Valhalla was just way too bloated It took me a 100 plus hours just to complete the main quest in some side quest.
One of the greatest games ever made
It actually surprised me i really really liked it its good i liked it more than valhalla much more .. . It did bum me out that it didnt have assassins in it but after a while it was amazing i loved its first dlc its second is ugh
By far my favorite game in the series. So much fun.
yes
I really enjoyed this one. The setting/world was great.
Origins and odyssey are my favorite AC games
Odyssey was pretty good. It had an incredibly dense world and solid rpg mechanics. My only complaint is the combat, you only had like 3-4 moves per weapon. It got repetitive after a while.
This is still my favorite Assassin's Creed game.
Odyssey great for me but Valhalla hell no it draining asf man i spent 40 that DLC i couldn't do it anymore
@justus5277
22 күн бұрын
Valhalla was my favorite of the three. It’s a game that isn’t meant to be played at all at once. I played it over a year and had sooooooo much fun. As a Viking game it’s amazing and the world is gorgeous. It’s not perfect but the updates they added helped as well. I loved the lore and the totally different feeling I got in that one than any other one. And that’s what I like is when each one feels like a different game
@Ok_waffle
6 күн бұрын
@@justus5277 So if you play it less you'll have more fun😂
@justus5277
6 күн бұрын
@@Ok_waffle no you obviously did not read it. I put over 200 hours into the game but over a longer period. And it was very enjoyable. I didn’t rush through and just enjoyed the world.
Actually odyssey is my favorite it’s so fun and funny and the story is good in my opinion you get to feel like a god
Loved this game. IT's better than Witcher 3 IMO. First Assassin's Creed I actually enjoyed
I feel like it's the best of this style AC
This is the best out of any of the new ones
This is my favorite assassin's creed game
It is not. It's my second favourite. Syndicate being the best imo
While it didn’t necessarily feel like an assassins creed game , I loved AC odyssey . Easily in my top 3 AC games . I’ve been a huge fan of Greek history and mythology since I was a kid so the setting was an absolute treat for me . Overall I put like 150 hrs into the game and had a blast the whole time . I liked the story , there was some really memorable side quest , good dlc , boss /monster fights were pretty cool actually , music was good and the exploration aspects were great
Not at all. AC Odyssey is one of my favorite games that I have ever played!
The qonquest battles are a great addition for the world, immersion and gameplay XP. Also just fun
Oh, wow, the guest took me off guard but nice video!
No, it’s not that bad… in fact it’s pretty brilliant
I love Kassandra
Is Mirage basically these games without the bloat?
@artydean9892
Ай бұрын
No... its worse the the original assains creed and aint as good as the newer ones if you like the rpg games. It's missing what made all the rest good
@ras6794
Ай бұрын
No. Mirage just kinda sucked. This game however is awesome.
Great video! I love this game and I love the points you were making.
Just started playing through this and having a blast, I don't like stealth games so I like this one and Valhalla
Odyssey is my favorite AC game
as an RPG it is good...but not as an AC game...maybe if the y renamed it Mercenary's Creed, people would like it more
Bro, this game is great
The majority thinks this is the best game 😂 mattys wild
Great job as always lock!!! Love Odyssey.
I think the people who hate it dont like this era in time, it doesnt really move away from stealth either you can set up armour sets from the first island to have instant stealth kills even on nightmare, But that said who the hell would want to not partake in open combat in the best setting for said combat, i was a Kassandra purist for ages i regret not playing Alexios sooner i am currently playing him the same way as you, There are some weak AC games no denying that but this ismt one of them
Lock, dont you mean 432B.C. til 431B.C.? I know, quite the asshole thing to correct but i think bc counts backwards
Who said it's bad everyone I know either like or love it
Assasins creed odyssey f'ing rules.
I liked it, but it did start to drag . I don't do the end game though on these games. I agree with you that the map was way too big. This was the second AC game I beat, Odyssey was my first. I tried to get into the first AC but, I didn't like it.
The large scale battles and cooldown abilities took me out of it.. like o ok massive squad battle.... good.🤦🏾♂️
@justus5277
22 күн бұрын
I feel like that immerses you in the world more.
Incredible game. Period.
I loved odyssey I think it’s better than origins
I think the main reason it was so divisive is because it was different than what we knew AC to be. Sometimes it feels developers cant win. Never change, people complain, change and people complain. This was a gorgeous game with rich story, great diversity to content and great gameplay. There were flaws, sure but dont hate a game because a formula was changed. Not many open world games have driven me to explore every inch of a massive map like this one did. Sure i was ready for the story to wrap up by 60-70 hours but by the end i was happy I put in the time.
@MrSkullMerchant
Ай бұрын
It makes me laugh because so many people complain that ubisoft dont change its formula but when they do people still complain and wanna go back to the previous formula 🤣 ya couldnt make the shizz up
Mirage last??? But that's illegal!!!
This was the game that done it in for me. Origins was amazing but this one wasn’t it. Turned me off of Valhalla
What? It's the best AC and one of the best open world games ever made.
Loved it, had a good 100 hour platinum playthru
Na it’s probably the best of the new ac games
Its my favourite game of the series
Damnit Lock, now I want to play this game again (and finally finish it). These videos you do are great, I want more!
And yet we've played most of ubisoft games... If any other publisher made odysee, origins or valhalla and renamed it, I guarantee they would be seen as great games
I love Assassin's Creed Odyssey, i just didn't like how long it took to finish (in hindsight, i think the long length and bloat, which Valhalla had too much of, was the reason, i never liked Valhalla)
@ourshit5725
Ай бұрын
When the game is good... i say, "The more, the better "
I loved odyssey ngl
It just got so fucking boring. I can never finish any of these modern Ubisoft games. Which is why I don’t want to start them in the first place.
This is the best of the new ACs and could definitely be in the top 5 of the whole series. The monetization is the only real downside of this game
Literally my favorite assassin’s creed game the name assassin makes zero sense tho lol
Keep up the great work Lock!
No. No it isn’t.
Is one of the less fun one, too much bloat. As much as people complain of Valhalla, you can avoid most of the bloat. In Odyssey you can't, the Mercenaries system is awfully annoying and playing on normal makes every enemy a chore. After lowering enemy level scaling and the difficulty makes way more enjoying, you can stealth one hit kill almost every enemy.
@michaelmiller4105
Ай бұрын
I think you just don’t know how to make proper builds. With a stealth build you can on shot mercenaries.
@Ok_waffle
6 күн бұрын
@@michaelmiller4105 How much time did it take for you to get such a build?
@michaelmiller4105
6 күн бұрын
@@Ok_waffle just collect the pilgrim set.
Odesessy is the best one
"... because I'm just not that into Japanese history or culture...." Don't worry, neither are Ubisoft.
Yes
Despite how vastly different it was from core AC, Origins is the only of the "new" era ones that I like. Unity was ridiculously disparate, no sense of story progression because you could just jump into any memory anytime and the map was just overwhelming to look at. I want a nice clean AC map with the only things with a waypoint being the main quest. Any side content should be unmarked and you have to remember clues in a journal to progress in them. And as you said, back to the emphasis on stealth and finding that perfect route to get behind the next obstacle.
@DekaMan
Ай бұрын
This
Its a great RPG and the greek setting is just awesome. Just not an AC game. But who cares anymore, the games just fun to play
It’s a great game
Great open world action RPG, not a great core AC game. I've made my peace with it.
I love this game and I don't care what anyone says
This is where Assassins Creed lost its identity, Ubisoft wanted to copy popular western RPGS and be more RPG driven, this made Odyssey a receptacle of everything popular in the western rpg market but doing so killed the games identity. When you become a receptacle of everything, you are nothing. I'm over seeing things I grew up enjoying, having a soul and unique identity, get thrown to the way side all because of profits and the need to maximize earnings.
Its a great game
No, it is awesome!!!
nice tee!
This game was definitely awesome. Great video Lock!!
Make it assassins creed 2 or brotherhood and it would be a great game.
Origins Odyssey & black flag are great games
I fell off the assassin's creed train back in Revelations, still haven't played BF(I know) but Origins somehow pulled me back in. Odyssey kept that same far cry formula in a world I genuinely wanted to explore. I dunno, maybe deep down I really want AC to be good again.
I loved odyssey lol