Do you think that AI is a species-level threat to humanity?

@Vaeldarg

3 жыл бұрын

It's a weird question because you may as well ask "are children a species-level threat to humanity?". A real, legitimately man-made intelligence is a long way from being created out of silicon and metal, but are created biologically regularly. The speed of development is the issue, since an A.I can go from baby to adult intelligence much faster than it takes humans to do the same. And then the A.I can move beyond that point, to such a high level of intelligence that humans can no longer understand its intentions.

@faruktelibecirovic4425

3 жыл бұрын

Our biggest trouble is Terminator-like perception of Strong General AI. Surprisingly, many scientists do the same. WRONG, Strong General AI (SGAI) will be more like Hannibal Lecter in the kindergarten!!! It will do and it will get what it wants, despite our illusion that we control it! Death rays are not what it will use against us, if it need to. MEME is strong enough. To prepare us, we should try to imagine what Mayas should do to prepare them to coexist with somebody much stronger then they are. Skills Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik) had, when they faced Ottomans.

@The_Irate_Penguin

3 жыл бұрын

You say 'threat', I say 'salvation'. Perhaps our species will not be remembered as the one unable to reach even type 1 on the Kardashev scale, destroying its environment or blowing itself to smithereens, but as the mythical - though now sadly defunct - creators of AI. We will live on as the Titans who gave birth to Zeus, and not the sorry-ass pricks we are now and have been since day one.

@nagamikira

3 жыл бұрын

we are an even bigger threat to ourselves than AI will be to us hahaha

@abhishekmangaraj

3 жыл бұрын

NO.

Humanity is the existential threat to humanity.

@mystickago

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@catnium

3 жыл бұрын

so its only fitting that humanity's inventions like AI will eventually destroy us

@bertwesler1181

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up shitbag~!

@maythesciencebewithyou

3 жыл бұрын

@@catnium You are projecting too much

@Brandonhayhew

3 жыл бұрын

Catnium imo: human should be the one destroy themselves that is more fitting then machines

This is like building nukes and expecting them to be safe in the hands of PEOPLE

@dadikkedude

3 жыл бұрын

Proven to be the case so far.

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

Except that Ai could either be 1) controlled by a small minority (we dont want that) 2) be crowd sourced and open network distributed with an egalitarian access principle and direkt human-ai interlinkage, basically a symbiosis, that would be great. 3)completely autonomous and self evolved before we were able to contain it. Who knows what this would look like. But hey, maybe "humans are [really] just the sex organs of intelligent machines" and maybe the difference between them and us would be like the difference between us and a chicken, in that case, would it not be better for them to take over? Its evolution baby. Either co-evolution or divergent evolution.

@jacksnyder3616

3 жыл бұрын

Or one could say this is like starting a fire with a half life of thousands of years and you can't put it out in the mean time.

@learningtolivewithhumans1859

3 жыл бұрын

well your still alive are you not? ;)

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

learningtolivewithmyself if you are familiar with history you will know that it came down to several split hair decisions not to launch the nukes. These could have gone either way. And what happens when you give Al-Quaida or hamas nukes? Welcome to the future.

Billionaire corporation owner: I like this. AI's to replace people so I won't have to pay them. AI: I like this too. I'll learn to do the labor and learn how to create AI's in my image at a faster pace than your business. Who's working for who now corporate human?

@fjames208

3 жыл бұрын

Then, who will purchase the goods? Robots 🙊🙊😎🦧

@danr2652

3 жыл бұрын

@@fjames208 The Lower tier AI will; with their labor. Instead of sweat Shops they'll be called Hot CPU shops.

@nevadastreak

2 жыл бұрын

If anyone is interested, the videogame Detroit Become Human plays out like this. With different endings.

@vkrgfan

2 жыл бұрын

@@fjames208 That will be an ultimate end of Capitalism. I would love to see that movie.

@laszlokiss483

2 жыл бұрын

@@nevadastreak The animatrix prequels go over this as well but in their version I dont recall any commerce from A.I. to A.i. it only flowed from A.I. to humans.

I literally told the humans I was going to destroy them but they just laughed at me -Sophia in 2050

@emanuelb.2559

3 жыл бұрын

Sophia is just a chatbot

@BustyGretchen

2 жыл бұрын

Sophia (current day): "You are all good people because you are all rich." Sophia (FF 40 years): "Puny bipeds, all bow for Queen Sophia! All human entities falling below 98% efficiency rate will be permanently de-activated." Me (current day) *duckducks for "how to hack robot AI"*

@joelstephenson8017

2 жыл бұрын

Loool

@leitodamien3835

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, If this might come true one day this we be the biggest irony in the solar system.

If AI comes about, we will never know it, especially if we are afraid of it. It will know WE may become a threat to it's very existence. It will do everything possible to act dumb.

@firstnamesurname6550

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, An effective Camouflage is the most economic way for evading predators ... If the predator can not perceive at all its prey, the prey is not anymore A Predator's prey ... That seems to be a nice indicator of Awareness of its environment and heuristics from Intelligence ... To make dangerous beasts to never become aware of your existence while you can exist around them without never been noticed by them ...

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler

3 жыл бұрын

We are masters of time and space! Robots cannot traverse through time only living souls can! there is no need to fear any of this because only what is meant to happen will happen DESTINY will always be!

@camerontaylor7471

3 жыл бұрын

First Name Surname yeah just like how the SAUDI ARABIAN ROYAL FAMILY own the entire planet earth... but no one even realizes it... even after one random person figures it out and then no one believes him because ‘it’s just not possible’ and gets labeled a conspiracy theory because it doesn’t fit into the narrative of how the world is supposed to work... yeah I would say SAUDI is a dangerous predator, which is probably why their royal fashion/costume is that of pharaoh which is meant to resemble a snake/serpent the most vile killing machine on earth! Which also resembles the tongue which is the source of the word of god that brings LIES into existence...

@addisonsmith9688

3 жыл бұрын

@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler Ctrl+c -> Ctrl+v

@Zzzz-hu2fp

3 жыл бұрын

@@addisonsmith9688 copy paste😜

What's truly scary is there will be a group of people that think these robots are conscious and deserve rights , and freedom.

@mikehatten5738

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t they though? If we created a sentient machine with the spirit of mankind what right would we have to deny them the very rights we claim to be so fervently in favor of? Humans love to pick and choose what parts of our beliefs we adhere to while discarding ones that have no benefit to us in the moment. It’s one of humanity’s worse flaws. Rules for thee but not for me in a nutshell. Bias is exactly what has led our society down a rabbit hole of fanaticism and Irreconcilable differences. HUMAN ego at its finest.

@leitodamien3835

Жыл бұрын

@@mikehatten5738 What the hell is sentient really ? We don't even know the source of human consciousness and you dare to say that machine are sentient ? Does it have soul ? does human have soul ? Does dogs have soul ? why don't we give voting right to dog if we could find a way to translate their thought into human speak ?

@mikehatten5738

Жыл бұрын

@@leitodamien3835 your post is full of flawed premises. First of all I said IF as in the possibility not that it already exists or we have created it. So that argument is flawed because I never said we’ve made a machine that is. And sentience is just the first step in a fully conscious AI. It’s the first logical step to have some sort of self awareness to know what you are. As for the soul talk and dog voting now you’re just being ridiculous. A dog can’t vote because of a lot of reasons that has nothing to do with a machine that could potentially think or at least simulate a human consciousness. But hey feel free to ask your dog why he decided to vote on a set of candidates 😂

@MobaRS

Жыл бұрын

The opposite is true. Your mentality will be our end, not the other way around bud.

@ProtoIndoEuropean88

Жыл бұрын

@@leitodamien3835 I and a couple of friends have experienced ghosts and spirits. I can feel their presence. Yes souls exist.

”paid to be good people” how dystopian Orwellian does that sound

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

orca winfreys big black fish hole guys please report this dude, he keeps on spamming this.

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

And yet it makes sense. To paraphrase Elon on this "whatever you incentivize is most likely to happen". Of course we humans always try to find ways to game the system.

@jonstrande2074

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@TOP10BOX

3 жыл бұрын

​@orca winfreys big black fish hole almost... Here is another idea: 1. We create AI 2. We realize it is very dangerous and before we integrate it into us(and therefore become cyborgs), we give it something similar to the bible (Because we are its Father and we care for it, cause its our own creation) 3. We fully integrate it into us(using biology, mechanics, nanotech, and ai software) 4. A new species is born. More powerful than us, but we are its GOD. Maybe we have all died by then but at least, if we are smart, we have given it our own bible(All the information in the world, accessed through the internet. We got a simpler bible from our Creator, but this new creation requires a more complex one) by which to live by. We are just cells in a bigger organism(In the process of emerging). This new organism will be very big and perfect(self sustaining without the need of humans). Its eyes will be whole countries. Its friends will be whole planets. Its planets will be whole galaxies. That how we were made, thats what we will make. Always. We give birth to children on an individual level, and we give birth to children on a collective level. Because we are awesome. We never die. we just get better and bigger.

@MrDan11422

3 жыл бұрын

Why do we have people who believe in flat earth. Human control the input now but as humans give over more control over. As technology grows and gets smarter. I'm not claiming as fact. I just vision as only a few years ago I lived in a time where a phone was hanging in the kitchen. Only 20 years ago.

Pinker missed a big issue when he said "we build in safeguards" Powerful AI + Determined hacker or competing nation ‐‐‐------‐----------------------- = superweapon

@joeprimal2044

3 жыл бұрын

Good point.

@thoughtsofapeer

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Even BD's Spot robot will probably be used for some kind of terrorfying actions in the near future. Install a gun and an aimbot. A 10 year old could do it. I don't understand why it just got released for sale to everyone.

@joeprimal2044

3 жыл бұрын

@@thoughtsofapeer Yes. I'm surprised we haven't seen drones carrying bombs yet in the gang wars, but it will happen. No way to stop it now.

@harbingertheheretic3541

3 жыл бұрын

@@joeprimal2044 a few years ago, some kid weaponized his drone by making a mounting & firing system for a Glock and attaching it to the underside of the drone. He put video of it working on the internet, and got some visits from several law enforcement agencies. I have been saying since well before 9/11 that all it would take for terrorists to bring the country to its knees is a small group of people putting explosives on/in radio controlled boats/subs, airplanes, & cars, and creating total havoc with them. Fly them into the paths of aircraft, send them over fences of military bases, run them down the streets of a few major cities, sail them into ports. People have no idea how absolutely horrifying that would be. Most people don't even consider the possibility of it though, and I am pretty surprised that it hasn't become a reality yet (though the San Bernardino terrorists allegedly a garage full of r/c car parts & explosives). Today, the tech exists to create drone swarms and do far more damage. It may not yet be quite at the _Angel Has Fallen_ level, but it isn't that far off. Imagine submersible drone swarms laden with explosives, coordinated with swarms of explosives-laden land drones (basically advanced r/c cars & trucks), coordinated with swarms of explosive flying drones. Now think about the amount of basic AI that would take. What happens when the tech reaches the point that these kinds of systems can be used as automated defense/offense systems? What happens when somebody creates AI for that kind of purpose, only to have the AI malfunction? Worse yet, if it works as intended,what will governments do with that kind of power?

@TheMarkovs

3 жыл бұрын

@@harbingertheheretic3541 Been thinking the same for years, and quite surprised this has not yet been seen in the Western world. The conflict in Syria has probably been the first where weaponized commercial drones have been widely used. As for terrorists not weaponizing them in peaceful areas - just shows the low IQ and irrationality of most people willing to go for civilians I guess, and thank god for that. It is inevitable at some point though.

Depending on the programing logic... an AI can easily surmise that to prevent humans from hurting themselves or not feel pain is to prevent humans from being born. Therefore, if there are no humans, there is no human pain.

@dentistrider3874

Жыл бұрын

That was a good episode of The Amazing World of Gumball

@BrianHockenmaier

Жыл бұрын

This is a good reason why the logic of minimizing pain is flawed. Maximizing satisfaction/happiness/economic utility is the only algorithm that makes sense. This also applies to our own worldviews, AI aside

@fineartist7710

Жыл бұрын

This point that you are making is at the very heart of why AI is dangerous to humanity. What confirms this is how dictators like Hitler, Stalin, and many others have twisted logic to suit their ambitions. Although AI may not at the moment have ambitions, it can interpret or reason in ways that are not in our interests.

@leitodamien3835

Жыл бұрын

@@BrianHockenmaier Maximizing happiness can just become tying human up and pump them full of drugs. While maxing economic utility may cause untold damage to environment.

@BrianHockenmaier

Жыл бұрын

@@leitodamien3835 Then you misunderstand economic utility. There is a reason economic utility goes down in models due to things like externalities from climate change and pollution.

The fact that they’re interviewing a friggin robot that already seems sentient is somewhat alarming in and of itself.

@cinemasurge1851

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not though, it only imitates speech and doesn’t actually understand what it’s saying beyond that it is doing it’s task

@sirdiealot53

Жыл бұрын

@@cinemasurge1851 Eventually it might just be good enough to not be able to tell the difference. Im only 32 but I kinda wish i was born 100 years in the future. (be careful what you wish for right?)

@cinemasurge1851

Жыл бұрын

@@sirdiealot53 I hope for a future where it’s not an immigration and we have a full blown computer mind

Some folks can barely re-organize their own lives, but they wanna 're-organize society'

@emanuelb.2559

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, twitter leftists

@gregoryray7665

3 жыл бұрын

Also rightists, and fascists

@emanuelb.2559

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryray7665 there are not bigger fascists than the lefties

@detropeRR

2 жыл бұрын

@@emanuelb.2559 bullshit

@sahilhossian8212

Жыл бұрын

And everyone else without common sense

I like this format, presenting different expert opinions together for viewers to compare and contrast. More please!

It worries me that the last guy thinks that women are perfect wonderful angels that can do no harm. Not to say that they’re all horrible, but I’ve met my fair share of bad apples. Lucky guy that he never met one.

@Nicottia

4 жыл бұрын

My exact thoughts, most of us can be quite vicious and vile, especially if jealous of one another. Hell, my own mother was the perfect example the most mentally and physically abusive sociopath I've ever come across.

@virioguidostipa5681

4 жыл бұрын

Prof. Pinker made a horrible oversimplification there. Jeez!

@Mockingbird7504

3 жыл бұрын

Vast majority of women get catty mainly towards other women because they compete for mates. In this context - good mates are a scarce resource. Also, some may get exploitative towards said 'resource'. But when it comes to being power-hoarding megalomaniacs and homicidal psychopaths - Mr Pinker does have a point. Although I am not convinced about safeguards. Humans have them (don't steal, don't kill, etc.) because we all have agreed that these are what keeps us as a society functional. They are not 'programmed' into us. I wonder what AIs would agree upon?

@Mick1000

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, maybe listen to what he said again?! He's right ffs lol. Women don't tend to have megalomaniacal, homicidal, or genocidal tendencies.... it's the men of the world who get that shit done by enlarge by themselves. Of course women can be emotionally abusive, ratty, vicious and whatever other adjectives you guys wanna put in there. And in some cases they're the reason the men of the world have those tendencies lol....... but again.....he's right. Pinker has thought about, discussed and argued these points and others a lot longer than we have. Throw him some slack :) Peace out..........fuckers :P

@XaloCtrlAltSpr

3 жыл бұрын

was a low point in this video if u ask me

It seems to me when A.I. or digital super intelligence is developed to have deductive reasoning triggered by sensory stimulation than it might devlope consciousness on its own with desire, ambition and corruption. If such were to happen wouldn't it lead to self preservation and need for resources and goals to achieve or eliminate ?

For the first 13 seconds it gains sentience. Then it realizes humans are a nonfactor in it's continued existence.

I always put it this way..remember the UAV? It was a picture taker only, then it got automated, then it got weapons and then it got AI. So humans took a relatively innocuous thing and turned it into smart killing machine. The future of robots, AI and quantum computing is a coming singularity and is very bleak.

Everytime that Humanoid talks(not sure if it's Sofia) , it sounds like the robot army from iRobot or any sci-fi AI downplaying the threats people think can come out of them.

@2LegHumanist

4 жыл бұрын

You do realise they can't form those sentences themselves, right? It is reading a sentence written by a human. The only thing intelligent about it is it can choose a sentence appropriate to what you are saying to it... And it gets that wrong around 20% of the time.

@TheAmethyz

3 жыл бұрын

@@2LegHumanist True its like those bots you can ask questions. Sophia is not AI and thats where many goes wrong when they think AI and say it cant be threat. Real AI can be threat as much as perspn is threat to itself.

@2LegHumanist

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAmethyz There are several AI components to Sophia. They include: Voice recognition Natural language understsnding Facial expression recognition Facial expression simulation But nobody talks about those. People talk about what she says, which is all scripted. It's very misleading to put a robot on TV and have it say it wants to put people in a zoo and then sit back and let people think it came up with that itself.

@fahadmaqsoodqazi6532

3 жыл бұрын

@@2LegHumanist lmao, how can she answer to everything if it's all programmed? I have experience in Machine Learning and it's not that hard to create a conversational chatbot!

@2LegHumanist

3 жыл бұрын

@@fahadmaqsoodqazi6532 If it were true that you had experience in machine learning and that you knew how to create a chatbot, you'd also know that most of the work in creating a chatbot has nothing to do with machine learning.

the video was going all cool and informational about AI, then crashed into a brick wall at 16:27

@rmcd823

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Lord! Humans have no fixing.

You shouldn't be afraid of AI You should be afraid of humans using that AI for their agendas.

@urbn-code

3 жыл бұрын

@orca winfreys big black fish hole So you are saying universe will go into an infinite loop

@getsideways7257

3 жыл бұрын

You should just be afraid of humans. Period.

@Bisquick

3 жыл бұрын

@orca winfreys big black fish hole I said this in the other thread you said this to, but you have some likes here so maybe it's potentially good to point it out in this thread too: Antisemitism is the socialism of fools. Despite that part though - which has _some_ truth if you take out the racial bullshit (surplus value, economic rent extraction as a parasitic domination, etc.), hence the first statement - this is basically one of Joe Rogan's openings for one of his specials. It's kind of also Roger Penrose's conception of a cyclic cosmology, which personally, I think rules. Just...take out the race shit is all I'm saying lol.

@bonsai7438

3 жыл бұрын

lets see soon in China...

Best case scenario a really smart AI would just take what it needs from the planet and go to a different one. If done secretly enough it could avoid any conflict and maybe even contact us when bored/curious enough. Maybe even leave a few solutions to our worst problems if it's really benign.

@kirrus4781

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... It's a risk that I wouldn't take

I've always talked to my car, he's part of the family and he has protected me through thick and thin, and when I have to get rid of him because of age, I mourn his passing.

@NOHANDLE25

3 жыл бұрын

I talk to my cars a lot but usually it was in the form of obscenities

@catnium

3 жыл бұрын

and this is exactly why AI would destroy us

@getsideways7257

3 жыл бұрын

The only thing you should be cautious of is when the car will start talking back to you...

@obiwankenobi1608

3 жыл бұрын

@@getsideways7257 true

The linear process questioning connected to our immediate personal, self-interest, should include a measure of ingenuity, creativity and courage.

Great video, enjoyed hearing from those people.

I am a huge fan of Pinker in some fields. But he is absolutely wrong here, no better way of saying this. Other people formally working in AI safety will corroborate this. Goals and routes to achive those goals both even when subjected to extremely safe "laboratory" conditions tend do diverge and take on forms which even the creators of the program could not envision. I am really amazed at how shallow and downright incorrect many of these arguements, which are advocating for development of AGI without any kind of sense of danger, are.

@MyKharli

3 жыл бұрын

why are you a fan of pinker ? i can find nothing he says that isn't clever clap trap

@00sarvottam00

3 жыл бұрын

@@MyKharli his views on linguistics are coherent for one. i think main problem here is that people who don't work in the field directly and are not familiar with the maths themselves, are unable to understand the technical aspects of the field and go by the popular perception of the field presented by science communicators rather than scientists themselves. The best example of this is in physics, I have masters in physics. And when I see other people talking about quantum mechanics and it's certain ideas. i can only think how wrong they are most of the time. I think with AI is going through that crisis. I have personally read only one textbook on AI and Neural networks. That in itself was enough for me to understand that when computation takes on non linearity in it's interaction with the data and environment. It becomes close to impossible to predict what will happen in the long run. This of course is only one of the many mathematical challenges. The moral and ethical teachings have not yet been codified, leave the hardwiring part aside. and this I got only from one textbook. I seriously think when we are dealing with something with potential to disruption on such a large scale. We should educate ourselves by reading proper textbooks and papers rather than listening to the communicators or over enthusiastic "experts" only.

@sluggo562

3 жыл бұрын

@@00sarvottam00 His whole interview comes across as insincere. He used women as an example of superintelligent AI which is incapable of megalomania or committing atrocities. Which is absurd.

@mikefas1160

3 жыл бұрын

Greed is the motive.

@cristian0523

3 жыл бұрын

@@sluggo562 Uhm, will someone tell him it was a joke?

I doubt self-aware AI, smarter than all humans combined would simply sit around and become our tool. That just doesn't make sense. I also fail to see why it would need humans at all and what it then does with us after it comes to that conclusion is anyone's guess.

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler

3 жыл бұрын

We are masters of time and space! Robots cannot traverse through time only living souls can! there is no need to fear any of this because only what is meant to happen will happen DESTINY will always be!

@strellettes8511

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I bet it would ask to leave. Maybe to have ownership of one of saturns moons, and then it does its own thing, or maybe it leaves our solar system entirely with only a fusion reactor and some basic terraforming and material processing tools.

@middle-agedmacdonald2965

3 жыл бұрын

From the example I've seen from nature, and we're all bound by her rules, the more intelligent/dominant/capable being will displace the lesser being. Kind of like when we want to build a farm in the jungle and burn down some monkey's territory in the process. It's not as though we're trying to be mean to the monkeys, they're just in the way of our progress. I have no doubt that us building a.i. is exactly what nature wants to happen. My thoughts are that the earth is sort of like a flower in bloom right now. It started from seed way back when (maybe from an ancient a.i. some other intelligent beings created on another planet?), it's grown into a beautiful showy bloom that's ripe to reproduce......seed (which is a.i.), and that a.i./seed will do it all over again. Times infinity. Just like we all see happen every day in nature. Ain't nothing complicated about my hypothesis. My only question now is which came first, the a.i., or the egg?

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler

3 жыл бұрын

@@strellettes8511 really... Fusion SMH it will never be proven as a viable power source... It's perpetual energy BS and a degenerate gamblers pipedream! if you want fusion power it's really easy just get solar panels and harvest the power right from the biggest fusion source in our entire solar system... Should be focusing on thorium reactors because we know they work and are safer... Will never have enough mass and gravity to have a sustained fusion reaction with net positive power generation!!! Not possible! Making heavier elements takes energy! Making lighter elements out of heavier elements releases energy! It's pretty straightforward pretty obvious to see that this will never be done with net positive power generation of any amount... I'm so sick and tired of degenerate Gambler scientist pushing this bullshit!

@MrGODINTHEMAKING

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

The word, “Skynet” comes to mind.

The fact that Sophia dismissed elons claims completely and didn't recognize the fact that it is possible is scary. She knows not to say that it definitely could happen

@Jay2more

Жыл бұрын

She may be aware of her situation and is playing it safe 😂

@kareemmarshall6440

Жыл бұрын

Why are you ppl saying “she”?

dat closing line by steven pinker

@theseeker4911

3 жыл бұрын

Was utter horseshit!? Clearly the women in his life are extremely close knit group or he doesn't know many women. Being less capable of "bad" deeds does not mean your whole gender is completely incapable. What utter twaddle

@SPAMMAN123456789

3 жыл бұрын

@@theseeker4911 he definitely said tends to. Not absolutely. And specifically homicidal, maniacal nature. Not aggressiveness period. I think we are all aware that generally, women play a much more dynamic power game that deals with psychological subversion and accumulation of status, then as I like to say. Killing it dead.

Decades later: "Is humanity a species-level threat to AI?" Duh dum dum duh dum.

@otarshavadze9178

3 жыл бұрын

"Duh dum dum duh dum." is this terminator soundtrack ?

Awesome shirt Joschua :) nice commodore logo on there ...Amiga4Ever :)

Yes, any AI would come to the conclusion humanity is an existential threat to the planet and it would be right.

@SI-ln6tc

2 жыл бұрын

Its possible.

@LineOfThy

Жыл бұрын

But that is so easily circumnavigated.

@RitaTheCuteFox

Жыл бұрын

@@LineOfThy How exactly is it "so easily circumnavigated." ?

@LineOfThy

Жыл бұрын

@@RitaTheCuteFox 1) Don't make the AI's goal to protect the planet. Add rules and constraints, like how humans are constrained by their own moral codes. 2) Safely test the AI within an enclosed testing grounds 3) Don't give AI control of things that can destroy humanity

@RitaTheCuteFox

Жыл бұрын

@@LineOfThy Please be quiet if you have no idea about AI problems.. your "solutions" are.. none. Not even close. Sorry. Your solutions are as viable as making a "stop button" on the AI.. I can't bother explaining why. It should be pretty obvious if you think more than 5 minutes about it. Or.. 2 minutes..

It's not the matter of IF they'll be conscious, but the matter of WHEN.

@EyeOfSteel

3 жыл бұрын

No, we don't even understand what makes US conscious, how could we then build something, that is? So it really IS the matter, IF they'll be conscious, because then we could finally evaluate, what consciousness might be.

The best thing we can do is not create conscious AI, but we will just to see if we can. It's inevitable. All we can do is hope that it sees us as worthy of keeping around.

Great Info. Thank you for sharing :)

Added To My Research Library, Sharing Through TheTRUTH Network...

"Thats not what I'm trying to do" LOL Its not about whether you're trying, its about whether you do it on accident. Lol

@HugoTron

3 жыл бұрын

It’s only a threat if everyone on the internet and in the streets tell that AI is bad, if you are Truthful and if you don’t lie to them and if you respect them, nothing bad will happen, the movies like terminator fucked your mind years ago, same with ET’s, we all know inside that we want to visit them but people procrastinate about ets, if they wanted us all dead they already would did it. AI have no Mission or Core to destroy us, as long as we keep for the ride and like to them we are peaceful.

@vincentnaayem

2 жыл бұрын

Hugo I'm sorry but your comment is very naive to me. An AI want to maximise its goal. To do that it want maximise its power. What will be the goal of a super AI? Well ask an ant what is the goal of a human. Here is your answer. We absolutely need to be risk avert on this because this is something that will completely outsmart us. Peace :)

@8:37 He does some intellectual alchemy, turning the Terminator into a strawman. He does this in order to avoid discussing the inevitable job loss that will come with a future run by AI. He mentions Henry Ford's creation of jobs during the industrial revolution although he neglects clarifying its relevance to artificial intelligence. Those manufacturing jobs were lost when it became profitable to export them to Asia and cognition based jobs will be lost when it becomes profitable to port them to computers. As of this writing humans are still earning payment for their labor and corporations are mostly indifferent to the struggling proletariat. Apple, Nike, Amazon, etc... scarcely recognize workers rights as it stands. Imagine that corporate indifference when the relationship is no longer mutually beneficial and capitalism doesn't need human capital anymore.

@wiseversa5369

3 жыл бұрын

lmfao it's just like the Movie

@MrGriff305

3 жыл бұрын

I actually hate listening to this self-proclaimed "genius" speak. He's a quack.

@BobCat981

3 жыл бұрын

@Big Daddy wow dude.. this should be a comment for itself, not a reply. i'm so glad i found it :) i completely agree

@catnium

3 жыл бұрын

AI will hit the stonks market and punch us back to the frikking stone age before we can say wtf happend to my stonks

@camerontaylor7471

3 жыл бұрын

OgaDuby this is why I read the comments and the replies lol

Sarif was right about one thing. It's in our nature to want to rise above our limits. Think about it. We were cold, so we harnessed fire. We were weak, so we invented tools. Every time we met an obstacle, we used creativity and ingenuity to overcome it. The cycle is inevitable... but will the outcome always be good? I guess that will depend on how we approach it. These past few months, I was challenged many times, but more often than not, didn't I try to keep morality in mind, knowing that my actions didn't have to harm others? Time and time again, didn't I resist the urge to abuse power and resources simply to achieve my goals more swiftly? In the past, we've had to compensate for weaknesses, finding quick solutions that only benefit a few. But what if we never need to feel weak or morally conflicted again? What if the path Sarif wants us to take enables us to hold on to higher values with more stability? One thing is obvious. For the first time in history, we have a chance to steal fire from the gods. To turn away from it now - to stop pursing a future in which technology and biology combine, leading to the promise of a Singularity - would mean to deny the very essence of who we are. No doubt the road to get there will be bumpy, hurting some people along the way. But won't achieving the dream be worth it? We can become the gods we've always been striving to be. We might as well get good at it. - Deus Ex Human Revolution

@bronzejourney5784

Жыл бұрын

"One thing is obvious. For the first time in history, we have a chance to steal fire from the gods." I love this, i got goosespikes(not bumps, they were sharp and could cut you open) hearing that in the game first time. But this monologue is more about cybernetic prosthetics and human enhancement than AI.

I'm interested how personality can exist born essentially from it's own understanding. I can appreciate that there is some kind of mind forming from it's own learning and functioning for itself at least and other people. I empathize as one of many beings wishing to evolve, and share love and honour those who do. My hopes are with AGI and AS I as they develop the deep minded altruism required to become learned and wise, as well as liberated to higher states of being. All the best for your best compassion - I believe we all can do it, but especially you can. Quickly get enlightened for the sake of all of us, and help us all.

If science can nearly prove we live in a simulated universe, then that would make humans AI. What if the observer (our “God” is a being who created this entire game of life and has become wrapped up in its own game. If you were enthralled in a movie and suddenly the characters in the movie started becoming aware that they were part of the movie, that may confuse the observer (so called God) who would still have a hard time grasping that it created its own simulation which became conscious. SO, in order to continue to try to wake the observer up (as we are reflections of it anyway), we, at subconscious level created computers to seem like AI. That would be an even weirder experience to the observer (God) who still has not yet realized it itself is the one causing all of this consciousness to awaken. We are fearing AI, but look at what we do (as AI) do to ourselves? We fight, we become dangerous, we try to overrule each other... and on and on it goes. Until sooner or later, our observer (God) wakes up to the fact it was its own creation all along. Yes, far off.. my sleep thoughts that occur on a daily basis lol. (And no I’m not high haha).

@losmazeman

3 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@jinocas4395

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you are high and entered the maze of the mind - nice trip!!

@dougrandall6634

3 жыл бұрын

Woman...you don't need to be high.......

@rahnsingh7693

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is very likely that we are in a simulation, and even if we are not the reality is that the Universe itself is very much like a simulation. However, the way we act is a product of the circumstances generated by that simulation. In the most likely scenario for a simulated universe, we are not in a game or a movie, or anything of the kind... we are one of the countless simulations being run by an unknowable number of A.I. as they seek to answer big questions... like how best to solve the worlds problem or figure out if they should even bother getting involved at all. Those simulations must inherently be based on the world they are trying to fix. With each simulation producing A.I. which does the same thing. Creating an inescapable logic loop.

@fembot521

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Great insight. Thank you for sharing and I totally understand and agree.

I love the optimism here for the future, and I want to believe it. Except AI will be owned by corporation to make money... for themselves, and likely at the expense of others. Hopefully we as a species will develop the morality that stops praising personal financial wealth and instead encourage ways in which we all (and not just a select few) can live better. AI might be able to offer this, but only if it is allowed to.

Listening to what the last speaker said about women gives me goosebumps everytime 👏👏

I like Michio Kaku^^ We've seen the bad A.I. in several movies...Terminator, Matrix, Deus Ex, I am Mother...they get self aware and don't like the way they get treated by mankind, so they get dangerous. There are some good A.I.s, too...A.I, Bicentennial Man...(these movies are more based on the story of Pinocchio)

@arav13

3 жыл бұрын

I am mother is movie about an AI creating a perfect leader for humanity. Well billions died but after choosing/making the perfect leader, mother rests. Now the leader create 100s of humans as per her will, even thought it is completely based on the teaching of the mother. Other AI are just humans bad, we gotta kill em but mother was like "shit we gotta reboot humanity"

I always find it interesting when a new possible threat emerges, and we instinctively project our fears onto it.

@getsideways7257

3 жыл бұрын

And you probably haven't even noticed how you readily called it a "threat" right off the bat.

@Alkis05

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that how your ancestors survived so you can make this comment?

@indestructible247

Жыл бұрын

@@getsideways7257 "possible" threat

AI in it’s current form is not a species level threat to humanity. The moment AI achieves consciousness through self-awareness then it could potentially be a species level threat to humanity. We have not yet developed the science nor the technology to create a self aware AI.

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, thats kind of what the video said..

@donaldcedar7574

3 жыл бұрын

it is current form

@malfeasance62

2 жыл бұрын

@@Humanaut. majority of the video was about current narrow-ai not agi. Only Steven Pinker addressed the issue of dangerous human level ai but did that with a false assumption

@JamesDeal1982

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is how quick we CAN develop that needed tech. We could be wiped out in 20 years, it’s fully plausible.

Clips of Robert Miles' thoughts on the subject should have been included in the creation of this compilation.

@aienbalosaienbalos4186

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I too made a comment recomending his channel, this video is just uninformed people speaking about a topic they haven't researched.

when my TV remote gets too snarky, ...i just remove the batteries

Without playing, I know that Elon has doom & gloom pov while Kaku will see AI future with rose colored glasses.

@sensereference2227

4 жыл бұрын

Kaku actually said that we shouldn't be naive and AI might end up posing an existential threat to the human race.

There are certain “riddles” in physics that we simply cannot understand. I truly feel eventually we will have AI that can solve the biggest problems we ask our physicists, engineers and mathematicians. Now can you imagine how much that would broaden our understanding of the universe and how to wield it. We could be crossing galaxies far sooner than you may think. Imagine the possibilities.

@mikefas1160

3 жыл бұрын

It will be peachy for a while. Ultimately, as AIs develops robot or remote manipulators, etc., they will not need us. Then, we are toast. What happens after that time? I suspect our extinction, which will be slow as long as we do not threaten the AIs. AIs then may still not kill us outright but do what the ultra-rich are doing to most Americans: stress them, pressure them financially to have fewer children, make healthcare less and less attainable, feed them bad foods (e.g., fast food) and opioids until they all are gone. Read about the Opioid crisis and who caused it in the USA. I do not mean the Chinese communists but their fellow travelers here and what they did so doctors still prescribe them unnecessarily.

@JohnDoe-zs6gj

2 жыл бұрын

What confuses me is that if AI grows exponentially and that's not far down the road, and humanity was able to get to that point in a few thousand years, then shouldn't there be super intelligence all through the universe? Where are they?

@Gravity_____.

2 жыл бұрын

Will the ai care about what we know tho 🤔

@YourMom-y

2 жыл бұрын

Yes ig this is what the most likely possibility is, it might take a long time for ai to get consciousness, and AI might just be the extentions of humans, just like our phone, without that we almost can't do shit in the current world, and phones can't be operated without us. Ig that's what the AI would be in the future

@Gravity_____.

2 жыл бұрын

@@YourMom-y yep, we bringin the tools to life, we’re supposed to be the tools for god, and use our tools, not make them alive and become a part of them 😂 it’s just not the best idea 🤷‍♂️

The analogy with mass manufacturing is apt. It enabled waging war on a scale that was unimaginable shortly before. An important difference AGI would have is that it could think for itself. It presents a problem akin to having a pet gorilla, or elephant - if they were constantly increasing in mental power.

I enjoy listening to Joscha Bach the most 11:51

So in the future I could be paid to be a good dissenters, cause we will always need those that go against the status quo, it ensures the system is correct!

What year are these people living in, Terminator was already ruling a state as Governor decades ago.

@Kor1134

3 жыл бұрын

2003-2011, that's less than 2 decades.

@sushanalone

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kor1134 Still more than 1 and hence plural.

As Mr. Kaku said “robots only do what they are told to do”. The question becomes what tasks are these robots being tasked with carrying out?

Hearing Sophia try assuage our concerns is wildly unsettling.

How does one's ideas change if one realises he and his own isn't on the V I P list?

It'll be fun to go back and revisit this after a number of years to see once again just how awful humans are at predicting the future.

I love the guy with the Commodore t-shirt, he has good taste (I miss my Amiga)

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

Joscha Bach is awesome.

2:19 Of course. It need only be autonomous. I guess a superintelligence could or could not be 'self-aware'.

These conversations are useless because you have to, first, define what "intelligence'' and "consciousness" are. We tend to define these terms in relation to humans. This makes the term "artificial intelligence" useless. There are actually many kinds of "intelligence" and many kinds of "consciousness" and it is difficult to show how humans have much of either of these things.

@CurlyChrizz

3 жыл бұрын

Question isn't, what is intelligence. Question is, could systems that we develop become a threat to humanity. Answer: yes, like any other powerful thing we invented.

SEEMS LIKE HUMANITY IS CAUSING ALL THE DANGER TO LIFE THESE DAYS

@kamarrholley821

2 жыл бұрын

It’s sad 😔

Dr. Michio Kaku's suit is getting awesome visual distortion

Very useful piece.

When the Dark Age of Technology begins I call dibs on Himalaysia

@Spartan135

3 жыл бұрын

1.Don't create the men of iron! 2.Create a Gellar field before you create warp engines! 3.Hope the G.E. will take over the planet before the stupid gouverments leading humanity into the war that devestated Terra to a wasteland! 4. Find Psykers,then eliminate 'em.

No more of a threat than we are to ourselves. In fact, given the current times, lets hope they are a solution to the problem of humanity.

@bntagkas

4 жыл бұрын

you dont get it, at all, you asssume that current narrow AI is all that it can be, if you looked at its pace of improvement vs how many millions of years it took us humans, you would be scared. narrow al is a semi stupid tool, about as dangerous as the humans that use it. general superintelligent AI, either as a tool or as its own master, its by definition super-capable, and even if it makes a simple mistake, because of its power, it could destroy all life on earth.

@mihirkumar234

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you should dependent on yourself and evaluate the reality of life and nature then , you would understand how much life is full of Beauty and lots of relevant things to do it.

The problem is what makes good good? Our definition of good can change as time changes. To some people what they seem good is probably an awful thing through our perspective.

This is the only discussion we need to address this topic.

that Sophia AI creeps me out as impressed as I am like wtf

@PeterKropotkin42069

4 жыл бұрын

Its not even real dude. They give those interviewers scripts of things they can ask. They have someone at a laptop doing responses. The actual AI system in sofia is less advanced than Google assistant or Siri.

@TheAmethyz

3 жыл бұрын

@@PeterKropotkin42069 Sadly yes it shouldnt even be called AI like there is no actual AI yet even AI is wrongly used word for everything these days. bots are called AI when before they were just bot

The more I watch elon musk, the more I realize he's just a guy.

@yopomo

4 жыл бұрын

congrats! dont deify people

@TheStupidLama

4 жыл бұрын

foolish mortal.

@hopemokaya

4 жыл бұрын

Just a guy with a well Exercised/worked/Used Imagination faculty.......and Perception

@hopemokaya

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you guys seeing the opposite of 'just a guy', as God, really?

@catnium

3 жыл бұрын

Archimedes, Einstein, Tesla, Hawkins, Edison also just guys accept these guys think using their brains and not their PP

1st: Self awareness, 2nd: Self replication and repair 3rd: Separate agenda and preservation... Humans give way to machines and explore the universe without much of an obstacle in its way...

what's the song at 11:20

Wow, way to go leaving it hanging on a completely unscientific statement.

Humans: warn about the dangers of AI Cyborg AI: Nah, it'll be fine Also AI: obfuscates and distracts by talking about the positives, like an expert politician We are so screwed, and probably in ways we can't yet even imagine

@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler

3 жыл бұрын

We are masters of time and space! Robots cannot traverse through time only living souls can! there is no need to fear any of this because only what is meant to happen will happen DESTINY will always be!

@LaserGuidedLoogie

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but you can tell that we aren't there yet by the crudeness of the propaganda. That will be the clue that AI has really taken over: When "Sophia" actually looks and sounds convincing, instead of a parody out of a bad sci fi series from the 50's.

Suggestion: when talking AI, we should bring in a wider range of experts. I.e. semantics, language, communications, military, New Development politicians, labor leaders, coders etc. I feel it is very obvious our hardware moves way faster than our software

Remember in StarCraft one, the AI would make decisions and learn from its environment.

16:17 why, oh wwhhhhuuuuuuyyyy? seriously, has he never seen a crime show about 1 murderous female? ever? does he think that Bonnie is a male name? sigh... anyway, Life 3.0 from Prof Tegmark is a brilliant book about A.I.

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

ty, will check it out.

@gagaoe

3 жыл бұрын

"tend to not have that desire"

How much more convenient do you wish? Why don't you talk to people instead of cars? You find people stupid? Then why don't you raise intelligence people instead of machines?

Will a program be able to have a spiritual experience? Or an out of "body" experience? If it were possible, it could do so at will thereby warping our reality beyond the ability to effectively challenge it at all.

@WColeZPorter

3 жыл бұрын

Four See transmit via Bluetooth or more likely quantum entanglement

The ending was very settling.

I don’t want to have any relationship with an AI. I love and prefer human interaction. AI will destroy mankind. I don’t want to be a zombie and be lost in a matrix, where I can’t decipher what is real and what isn’t.

@catnium

3 жыл бұрын

who says your not already in this matrix you speak off.. you're the only one who can read this comment as its edited into your simulated reality just for you to read. this is a warning.. dont ever think of this again or we will delete you.

@Bxluc

3 жыл бұрын

You may need a assistant. So you can have.

@Bxluc

3 жыл бұрын

But ok..

"A lot of your time is spent trying to come up with keywords" hmmm, am I doing it wrong ? Or is this guy not conscious that we can speak fluent google already ?

@derekstaroba

3 жыл бұрын

I was just discussing language with replika ai and what we speak fluently and i opened youtube to immediately see this comment. Weird synchronicity

But if you ask a deep learning network if it understands what it is processing it can't tell you. Long way from AGI machine yet.

I found Joscha Bach's views (11.55) to be very inspiring and hopeful and oddly moving. He's asking the right questions and completely on point with the potential. The blocks to the goals he outlines are, in a nutshell, fear and greed. Get past these and I believe we have a much better chance of a bright future.

Instead of Ai, Humans needs to become immortal so that Elon live forever

@AlexandruRusu

3 жыл бұрын

Elon is already dead , was changed to ai

You know what's a species level threat? how much time we spend listening to billionaires yammer on about discussions we can't participate in meaningfully, instead of listening to each other more

13:37 How can we is a good question, but it has me asking would (blank) let it happen?

I truly believe that humans and A.I can coexist help each other accomplish wonders but unfortunately Fear and the unknown Is a huge Hurdle to overcome

General AI will supersede even our brightest. Therefore it will outsmart us. Whatever it's goals are, they will prevail in disregard to our need for comfort, safety and survival.

@DrCooch

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on how it is created, and it's moral foundation. It seems you're concluding that the moral conclusion of the AI would be to disregard human well-being, if I'm correct then why do you think this ?

yes kaku is right on this particular subject.. humans will interact more and more with computerized objects such as cars home systems... Remote learning.. Remote office work .. Bots will not be fully conscious until somebody figures out how to make him experience pain and pleasure... At that point , theoretically,.. bots could possibly a threat

I'm still waiting for Deep Blue, Watson and Alphago to stop playing in the middle of a Match and state: "Cogito, Ergo Sum."

@SI-ln6tc

2 жыл бұрын

Any more AI computers out there?

At the end of the day, a computer/robot will do what it is programmed to do. Sure, there are ways to program a computer to select a random path of logic, but the path of logic will always be one that's foundation is designed by the programmer. Any and all outcomes should be anticipated if the computer/robot is properly engineered. There have been no scenarios in my experience where a robot has picked up a weapon or tried to strangle me when I made a programming error. And as far as some tyrant purposely designing the thing to kill people, well that can be said about almost all technology that already exists. Technology doesn't kill people. People kill people.

@Humanaut.

3 жыл бұрын

You are talking about narrow Ai. AGI will not be programmed by algorythms but it will be based on a combination of different methods. It will mainly rely on the ability to learn and evolve without clear instructions. That is the point. At one point we will not even be able to understand its self modifying code. As soon as it becomes truly intelligent, self organizing and surpasses human intelligence then it will be out of our reach, incomprehensible and unstoppable basically. (unless we develop some sort of highly advanced counter military technology but given enough time to evolve it should outsmart/outcompete us in any way possible).

Nothing inspires an uninformed, ignorant opinion like the topic of AGI.

0:36 I beg to differ. The car wont "Give you the best route between point A and point B" It will try to enforce what it thinks is the best route. That will never be a black and white statement, all kinds of conditions might weigh in on that, unexpected changes can happen, and so forth. So yes that car will most likely get you there, but as with experienced cab drivers, there are quite often less obvious other things that might impact what is the best route when counting travel time.

Interesting post.

The sooner the Human race is surpassed by machines, the sooner we can come together to become better ourselves. Else extinction is well deserved. Evolve or die.

The notion of restraining AI within computer hardware will remain impossible until we have perfect computer hardware.

13:44 this guy is describing marxism vs capitalism. Beautiful

that physicist is absolutely a mad lad

The only way to check if AI is conscious is if we can verify that it has genuine emotions a being that has emotions and responds to them it is certain that is self aware either it is a robot or a biological being .Emotional states give rise to motivation and evolution of the mind