So you may be wondering why the video seems to be edited weirdly, well I was give a copyright claim so I had to trim things out, but luckily the video still has all the important info so sorry for the inconvenience.

I'll stand by any theory that says Helaena found any good thing in her life 😅

Aemond cares more about Heleana than Aegon, Aemond looks more like a husband than his brother, i hope it is true

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Nah mate, Aemond's character doesn't fit this narrative, nor does the title scene of the show

@heartlesslove9084

Жыл бұрын

​@thalmoragent9344 book and show are not the same dude they already made a lot changes in aemond and helaena's characters I won't be surprised if they show how siblings preferre each other in season 2.

@Elizabeth-hc3mi

Ай бұрын

I think Aegon does care about Haelena, but more as a sister (yeah he calls her weird, but who hasn't called their sister weird before?)

@EmmaSoyer72

7 күн бұрын

​@@Elizabeth-hc3miAemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.

When Jace asked Hel to dance, Aemond looks so triggered that Aegon looked to him, as if anticipating a reaction from HIM! Which is odd because Aegon is the husband.

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

I really do believe this theory is true! So many subtle things throughout season 1

@luvprue1

8 ай бұрын

I think so too. In the world of ice and fire it seems like Aemond cared more about Helena than Aegon.

@EmmaSoyer72

7 күн бұрын

​@@JellyJugzAemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.

You missed when Otto left helaena's room, alicent called him uttering the word "Father", then the twins suddenly muttered something that sound like Aemond, which is then followed by Aemond entering the room; and knowing Helaena is a dragon dreamer, her children might be one as well and saw the coming of Aemond or they gave hints by mentioning aemond when the they heard the word Father.

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Nah, it was Aegon. People have heard this before, and it was Aegon

@browniebear

11 ай бұрын

1 twin says "Aemond" and the other says "Aegon". It's also only *just* audible and occurs right after Alicent calls "Father". This was clearly intentional by the crew to further create doubt on the parentage of Jaehaerys and Jaehaera. Maybe they just see Aemond as their father cause he helps take care of them in Aegon's absence and negligence. Or maybe Aemond is their real father after all...

@dnisse5216

11 ай бұрын

that wasnt helaena room

@maylynbayani

10 ай бұрын

​@@browniebearno, it was definitely Aemond. Aegon is pronounced as "Egg-on" hence his nickname "Egg".

@maylynbayani

10 ай бұрын

​@@thalmoragent9344 Aegon is pronounced as "Egg-on" not "Eygon". There was a prominent "Ey" sound on both times the twins called his name.

In the books, they died the same day. Aemond died and she jumped to her death by sunset.

@Anna-uq6wr

11 ай бұрын

Yes they did! So few people seem to notice this fact and I really don’t think this is accidental and hints at their bond being very significant.

@luvprue1

8 ай бұрын

Good point ! She probably killed herself after finding out that Aemond died. She probably knew it, felt it.

And in the book, the Black's kill Haelena's son in exchange for Luke's death. And quoted "a son for a son". Wouldn't it be fitting that it was actually Aemond's son, since Aemond committed the crime?

0:41 bro said I would smash 😂

Would it be too much to want them to be a close brother sister pair without incest?

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

Yes lol no it could be that they are just close it’s just that scene when he was younger is what I keep going back to

@TheElochai

Жыл бұрын

@@JellyJugz I feel it can go either way really.

@lindsaydrewe8219

11 ай бұрын

Somehow I find Brother and sister incest less disturbing than uncle niece. Possibly it’s the age gap,after all he knew her as a baby while being an adult. Siblings brought up meanwhile in weird( let’s face it) circumstances would naturally feel that they can turn to each other,the only ones they really trust. Aegon got all the attention while the younger pair were seen as a bit defective. Whatever , Aemond obviously cares for her the most

@xmynationalanthemx

6 ай бұрын

Bruh they’re literally Targaryens. Incest is what they do.

I wonder if in the books, Maelor is Aegon’s son and the twins are Aemond’s. Blood and cheese asked Heleana which son she wanted to lose, and hesitantly she chose Maelor. Maybe she picked Maelor because Jaehaerys was next in line to the throne, or maybe because he wasn’t Aemond’s son.

100% accurate, Aemond boned his sis and all those kids are his. Daemon knows too, that we had the oldest killed. 💯

Makes sense i mean a son for son the blood and cheese makes more sense

@Dani_1012

9 ай бұрын

Especially the fight with Daemon later makes more sense with this theory

Love your videos man, keep it up 👏👏

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That really means a lot! :)

I would like the show to make the change and that Aemond be the father of Helaena's children, he deserves to be an ancestor of the Targaryens much more than Aegon

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

True Aegon is a bit of a prick lol and it is Aemond the younger brother who studies history and philosophy, it is he who trains with the sword, who rides the largest dragon in the world

@NoName-wn4df

Жыл бұрын

Them changing Aemond to Helaena’s childrens father has no impact on making him a more of a ‘Targaryen ancestor’ 😂 He is the exact same amount of ‘Targaryen ancestor’ as both Aegon and Helaena, there’s a difference between a Targaryen ruler (which both Aegon and Helaena were) and ancestor for starters so even if he was their father he wouldn’t be ruler because he isn’t king.

@matiasrodriguez7408

Жыл бұрын

@@NoName-wn4df You are rationalizing it too much, I just say that they should make the change because it would be better (Aegon is an idiot, Aemond was actually the one who took the war and the responsibility on his shoulders)

I'm disgusting bc i want this to be true hahahaha. Another clue is she lets him touch her. She doesn't even let her mother touch her... she does touch others, but she seems to want to have his Aemond's touch

Aemond is actually 16 and he is younger than Helaena. It wouldn't mzke sense for him to be the father of the children. Helaena's actress herself said this ship never was in the script.

Nah, even in the Opening Credit Scene, its clear that the kids are Aegon's and Helaena's. For one, it doesn't fit Aemond's character within context of his family to do this. With Alys Rivers, sure, but Helaena? His married sister? The Opening Scene also shows how Rhaenyra's and Harwin's bloodlines cross, not Laenor's, so its clear we would've seen bastardy in evidence there... and we don't for Aemond and Helaena.

@Allthingsasian

10 ай бұрын

In the show opening Harwin’s sigil is not there it is Laenor’s, and the same for Aegon and Helaena. The opening credits just show the ‘official’ succession. For instance many believed Aenys to be a bastard.

@alittlewoowoo2214

10 ай бұрын

A dragon takes what it wants. Aemond is riding who again?

@xmynationalanthemx

6 ай бұрын

Lmfao they’re not gonna have Jaehaerys & Jaehaera come out of Aemond & Helaena’s bloodline in S1. That would’ve been a huge ass spoiler. Wait for S2.

@tylerbonin8408

25 күн бұрын

She kills herself after Aemond dies. Sounds like something a babymama does

He seemed bothered when Jace invited Healena to dance, more so then Agon...but that would make Healena less noble and a traitor, I don't think it is the case

I feel like that would be cool but their family is so concerned with being “legitimate” and they care a lot about specific children being bastards, so it would be a little out of character for them

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

True I really don’t have an argument for that but as Jaime Lannister once said “We don't get to choose whom we love It's beyond our control”

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, even the title shows that their kids are legitimate

@misswednesday299

Жыл бұрын

I think it would narratively work as a form of grand irony, especially since Alicent is so obsessed about illegitimate children from Rhaenyra.

@browniebear

11 ай бұрын

​@@misswednesday299Yeah & Aemond isn't above being a hypocrite. If Aegon II eventually lost the throne (thru death or whatever else), a decision would be made to crown Jaehaerys (or Aemond possibly). At this point if it's little Jae, Aemond could act as his regent until Jae comes of age OR confess Jae is a bastard which then makes Aemond king which then means he can legitimize Helena's children as his own and heirs & marry Helaena (if Aegon is dead or lost in Essos). It's scandalous yeah, but Aemond rides Vhagar and since when is there not drama in this storyline? He could very well have had an affair with Helaena which results in the twins (and Maelor if he exists in HotD) & justify it in his own head meanwhile Rhaenyra remains the "whore" (which is true but it doesn't change Aemond being a hypocrite which is a running concept in this story).

@Allthingsasian

10 ай бұрын

I mean GRRM loves irony in his stories so I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to include Aemond being the father of Helaena’s kids.

In the books it doesn't say anything if aemond is the father of Helenas children i Don’t know maybe Helena and aemond are just close

i wish it to be true.

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

I as well, I think it would be a cool twist but I suppose we will find out next season

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

​@@JellyJugz I doubt it'll happen

@persephone342

3 ай бұрын

Why say it’s a son for a son unless it’s literal? When you go biblical, you tend to mean literal interpretations. It wasn’t Alicent’s son, it was Helena’s. If they do it, this will be the the twist.

yes, he is. hope that helps

Hope it ends up being true

@JellyJugz

Жыл бұрын

I think it would be a good twist that would shock some people so here’s to hoping

This is par for the course in the Targaryen family

Does it really matter..they both are her brothers.

I wish she would just take her kids and dreamfyre and flee to go live with the blacks. She didn’t do anything to them I think she’d be given refuge

@heartlesslove9084

Жыл бұрын

You are delulu thinking she ll be safe with the blacks when she ll the most stupidest person to ever take decision to let herself and her children any harm.

@TaeSunWoo

11 ай бұрын

This

You no what i find made there father kne of the best kkngs . Because HE NEW DAMN WELL his grandboys from the sea snakes famiky .... he new they werent targarines . But he still stood jdxt to his daughter and snapped THAT FIGHT THERE . FATHERS TAKE NOTE. LOL

Hopefully he is the father