Is a Stream Deck even WORTH IT in 2021?
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Elgato made a new Stream Deck! But is it even worth buying in 2021? Let's review the Elgato Stream Deck Mk.2 and compare it to the OG.
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In the automobile industry, this would be known as a mid-cycle facelift.
When the Stream Deck was first released, Elgato were admirably very active in discussing software feature requests/changes in Reddit, I remember early on one of the devs noting a couple of my requests regarding hotkeys/profile switching, and they ended up designing the profile switching in a better way than I could have imagined. The community engagement is why the software has ended up so good, not just having the "that'll do, product shipped" attitude and moving straight onto the next product. I haven't visited the Stream Deck reddit threads in a long while now (the product just does what I need it to do), but hopefully the change to Corsair ownership hasn't hampered their proactive approach. Opening up the platform to allow people/third parties to develop their own custom stuff, was also a brilliant move. As an early adopter the launch products focus was a little narrow to me, fortunately a couple of updates later it became incredibly useful for gaming and day to day PC use, and they still seem to bring something cool with nearly every update. Also glad they haven't made too made too many technical changes with the 2.0 product, as cool as the thought of an OLED bluetooth model that does multi-device might sound..
I'm sending this video to people that talk about gear being dead, I always hate it when people claim that matured gear shouldn't be used and you put that in the exact words I was never able to find
@philscott7949
3 жыл бұрын
There are many young people in the AV industry happy to destroy working gear, because they are conditioned to believe the AV fairy will magically bring them something new and shiny.
I hope they come up with a similar XL version. Being able to strip it down and integrate it into a desk at my workplace (a room hired out to different groups of users) would be great.
A perfect illustration of good gear maturing is the documentary "Sound City". Dave Grohl spent tons of money to harvest a mixer from the '70s.
That was a Linus quality merch segue right there
@EposVox
3 жыл бұрын
What can I say? I learned from the best.
An awesome video as per usual, Adam 😆👍👍 I bought my stream deck back on July 15th of 2019 during an Amazon Prime Day Sale. I haven't taken it out of the box and started using it as of yet, however, even with that being said, thankfully during that time there has been vast array plug-ins released for it alongside a plethora of awesome really cool updates. On top of all of that within the alloted time that's past since my purchase I've watched a ton of numerous stream deck tips & tricks video as well as hidden or lesser known features - all in all basically boiling down to the fact that I absolutely can't wait to begin using it. ☺👌 Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
Still the most in-depth tech reviewer. Kudos to you bro 🙏
Good vid man, liked it! Loved the maturing technology analogy. Gold
your videos are great. very helpful to small streamers that have just stepped into this world.
Points to you for having backup stream decks lying around
Honestly, I like the stream deck for hotkeying things for editing. I'm too lazy to get clear custom keycaps and cut out images of what I want and I don't want to memorize things more complex than Ctr+C and similar every day tasks. I don't know what Delete with Ripple is off the top of my head - I just press my button for it lol... Good video, thank you Epos. It is nice equipment I do recommend.
I've been debating whether or not to get a stream deck for some time. I think its finally time to get one. Love your content and the information you put forth that shows the positives and negatives. This helped me make my decision to get one!
@AndrewR2130
2 жыл бұрын
me to iv seen a fair few profiles ect for games i play as well as general use to launch applications theirs so much can do its nuts the xl is on sale rn amazon uk
@JustJay1281
2 жыл бұрын
people really under utilize the functionality of the stream deck. It has so much more uses outside of streaming or content creation.
found you through this, thank you for this beautiful, mindful, and mature piece of content subbed
I could not imagine doing my weekly video/podcast of ElectricianLIVE without this Stream Deck XL. It truly made my streaming life so much easier and wish I had gotten it much sooner than I actually did. However, it was well worth the wait.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!
"Gear worth buying, matures" NO OTHER SENTENCE WAS TRUER THAN THIS ONE!!! Thumbs up there, mate.
6:13 "Hell...audio mixing boards are often kept around...'til they die." My audio for my current stream setup all goes through my mixing board that I bought in 2007 (my trusty silver Yamaha MW12). The condenser mic is also from 2007. The mic arm is the only thing that's new. It's not dying yet, but sometimes the little-used buttons need a bit of persuasion...
I bought the XL a month ago and can't live without it now
Stream Decks, and specifically the XL, are a space/flight simmers dream peripheral.
@AndrewR2130
2 жыл бұрын
one of the things ill looking at an xl for haha
thoroughly enjoyed this video as usual my dear sir, but I would like to ask: What would you say are the advantages (other than actual tactile buttons and easier setup) the stream deck has over simply buying a 7" touch monitor and programming macro buttons that achieve the same result? as far as I know it is possible for a fraction of the price, but I would definitely like to hear some ideas from you and other commenters.
I enjoyed the voice. Well done, radio/podcasts/series
I had to get it when i learned about it. I havent scraped the surface but during the pandemic it was on back order at best buy so 1st chance i got to cop it i did, with intentions of learning all it can do. And since the update.. wicked! Wish i had the removable wire though.. good video..
you matched really well with your beautiful background :) that is all.
I was looking for just a lill comparation between both, or a easy reaview... i got somothing SO MUCH better! subbed.
@EposVox
3 жыл бұрын
You had me for a sec, haha. Thanks for subbing!
I just got the original version a couple of days ago. When I saw Amazon had it on sale last week for $100, I don't think I've ever hit "add to cart" so quickly and I bought it immediately, it was too hard to pass that up. I knocked off an additional $18 in Amazon rewards points and I got it delivered for $90 (incl.Tax)! This device has been on my Amazon "save for later" list for ages, just waiting for a good deal. I'm an OG (Old Geezer) myself and some of the new tech gets me scratching my head. But this thing is as simple to setup as it comes. :) As far as the Mk2 version goes, I do like the detachable cable idea. Not a fan of that new stand though.
I peep the CAD E100S. Love mine! Make sure to hold on to that. They got discontinued relatively recently.
I use a Stream Deck for DM online D&D, works great for on the go hot keys for Roll20 and Discord. Also use it for a Voicemod controller. Works great. Would like to upgrade to an XL at some point in the future.
@Fragnar13
Жыл бұрын
Where do you find voicemods?
I use it for almost every application I use. It is amazing for my workflow in my primary job, photo editing. I have made a button for each action and most key press combos. My only gripe would be having some function to cross platform the profiles. I have to copy then redo all key combos from Mac to PC even though most of the modifiers are just swapped, like Command and CTRL.
God i love that retro styled merch !
I was hyped for a level uo of the streamdeck. We’ve seen other companies innovative in this space. For the price there are other alternatives. Elgato has a great product but it should innovate. I’ll try the XL version if you have a link. Thanks!
Wait, is that Sierra Dawn's stream running in the background!? If so, that's hype af!
Great review, deserves a sub
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Okay, being able to strip it down to the bare internals is absolutely a huge upgrade. I suppose all that is missing is first party support for 3D printable models for the case, as I would love to just replace it with something with a cooler color to start with.
I'm kind of hoping that Elgato will engineer a way to integrate the new magnetic base of the Stream Deck 2.0 with the OG 15 key. Even if it means having to purchase it separately as personally, I think it looks much cleaner & sleek in comparison to the OG stand with the variations of degrees of tilt adjustment. ☺✌✌
My 11yo just bought a stream deck for his birthday. It's the older model as I didn't know there was a mk2. He loves it and figured out the connectivity right away. He has it set to play favorite songs and control his apps. It's pretty cool.
I bought my 15/32 button decks for use with flight simulators. Very useful. The refresh... Well, I literally hated the folding base on the 15 key deck so much that I mounted the deck on a monitor arm with velcro. The cable, while short, wasn't an issue for me because I have USB hubs for flight sim gear. I don't need the refresh.
elgato releases new products every months theses days. it seems that they're growing faster and faster, bringing more innovations at an incredible pace.
I bought the XL. , now that was a great buy plus the wave 3
Thank goodness for the detachable cable! Permanently attached cables are *bad!*
@EposVox
3 жыл бұрын
Agreeeed
I run 2 Stream Decks on either side of my racing wheel, and use them EVERY DAY, and still predecessors such as a Logitech G13. I didn't know what was different about the MK2's I really like the ability to strip it down and make it more minimalistic, as I have a very complicated setup, but, These old ones are not going anywhere anytime soon. And don't feel bad for "spare new hardware" :P I have a spare G13 for when this beast finally decides it's done. :P it would be more than Fair after 12 years of service.
Hey dude I am new to the channel and never streamed before (I didn’t even know what a stream deck was until today), so maybe I’m not an important audience… but I feel like as your channel grows and more normies like me start watching, if there was more explanation of a product in some of these videos that could be awesome. Like even just another 30 seconds of you showing an example of how it works for a streamer. Because I am definitely in that shopping mindset so seeing more demo could be really nice. All in all I love your videos a ton though and I will probably watch them all! Just wanted to give my noob two cents :)
Waiting for it to hit Amazon.
I just got the old stream deck, just prior to the release of the new one. In fact, I have not even used it. Do you think it is worth returning it and spending the extra money on the new model? I mean the cord seems slightly better.
Honestly, the only real gripe I have with my Stream Deck Mini is that sometimes pressing one button triggers another one and it's not really clear why. Like I've gone to change a scene and it ended the stream, too.
Got my XL today from multiple donations on my twitch streams 😊
Hey Professor - Just got the Mk 2. Not a gamer or streamer. Do music and videos 😱 for YT channel but have poor eyesight so hoping to set it up to do some of the things I struggle to see on screen. We'll see 😀 how it goes.
yes i prefered the andjustable angles, was glad to use it at the same angle than my keyboard is, next to it. @2:58
I can honestly say I was so reluctant to by this bought one yesterday and it’s absolutely insane how much time I can save with this makes me literally want to use my. Computer more I think the 15 key version I bought best you can make endless pages or profiles I can drag and slide button placement hot keys awesome I recommend taking it of dock and just using it flat if your right handed keep it on your left and used left handed is best
I fkn love my streamdeck xl. It is the control center for my streams.
Is that a Sierra Dawn stream in the background?
I sold mine years ago, just as easy using the keypad on the right to utilise all the binds and scene changes etc
I am using the Software version on my iPad ... I hope they will make an mk2 of the XL version too. :)
I’m thinking of buying a Streamdeck, but there is a sale on the “old” version of 119€ and the MK2 is on 150€, so you think the old is good enough and worth to Safe the money ?
My dude you are SUCH a good content creator
@EposVox
3 жыл бұрын
Well thank you :)
@sobgray
3 жыл бұрын
I really get a clear sense of the product, more than i ever would reading thousands of reviews
thanks for the "review". "Still worth, buy the mk2 and here's some background info" - exactly what I wanted to know :)
Waaa... that talk with streamer, gamer, etc was interesting and its most likely true and anouing xD 😙👌
I still have the old version of the stream deck and I've never streamed I just use it for launching things and use it as a sound mixer for voice meeter
Help! - In the 15 key v2, how long is the detachable USB cable? Lots of places say it's longer than the original, but nowhere does it seem to say how long this new cable is.
You know are a new content creator its easy to get lost in the hype of things but where you earned my absolute trust is where you said first try these free options to see if you can use it
Thanks for the resource. I was attempting to connect Loopback Aggregate with the Soundboard in Stream Deck so that I can play BGM through OBS, however, I can't seem to locate the device name or the device itself to add to the Source in Loopback. Could you please advise...? thx
Sad to hear that the buttons are the same. I struggle with "double-clicks". But still would not want to miss it. Daily use.
Excellent video, my friend. I have the new iMacPro M1Max with USB-C connections, in your opinion would the mark 2 15 button deck work if I were to use a USB-C on both ends?
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Would work fine
I bought the 15 key stream deck mk2 (in 2022), I was (am) using it for so much more then just streaming that I went and bought the XL. I hate a cluttered desktop, I always want my wallpapers to be on display on my desktop (why have a nice wallpaper to cover it up with icons). With Win 11 having such limited pinned apps (without having multiple pages), the stream deck XL keeps my most used apps and games easy to find, right at my finger tip. the 15 button now controls my audio, so even when I am not streaming, I can adjust the balance of my game sound and music/video that I usually have running as well. Honestly if I couldn't use it outside of streaming I wouldn't have bought it, as even now when streaming all the stream deck does for the most part is control Lioranboard, and I was using a midi controller to control my audio. It was a combination of smaller form factor and the functionality outside of streaming that made me decide to buy a stream deck.
the stream deck is so good you don't need to be a streamer to have one its brill for just gaining
might look weird, but because i'm considering having 2 stream deck, having different faceplate is awesome to indicate clearly that the 2 products serves 2 different purposes. find lot of faceplates on etsy, even dual stand for wave xlr on top of stream deck, dual stream deck faceplate, but all thoses faceplates are handcrafted, so super expensives. elgato provide cheap ones, but choices are very limited. also faceplate is cool to remove elgato branding and put your own logo, and "make it yours" like epos sennheiser said.
Me just buying an old gen stream deck: 😐
@FrankDouma
3 жыл бұрын
Me 2 weeks ago, going straight back to amazon so I can have the new one
What mic are you using, i dont see it in you gear list or past list
Speaking of freebies, one that is super useful but has a bit of a learning curve is Liornboard
Great review, I'm a first time viewer and I have subscribed. You have helped me get off the fence and thank God that I did not purchase my first Stream Deck last week. It looks like good things do come to those who wait 😉 Thanks brother and God bless.
@EposVox
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I feel like this guy is filming in a video game themed Mos Eisley.
Is it a video capture device or do I still need one
Yesss Update ELGATO STREAM DECK
It is a real shame they have no love for linux. It looks like a great and convenient macro box, but I use linux exclusively for my streaming, online lecturing and seminar/workshops and podcasts. I went and bought an ergodox EZ programmable keyboard and made basically a streamdeck layer on it. If elgato ever natively support linux I'll buy one, but I aint holding my breath.
Love my XL, from mundane things like spin up/shut down program groups (work, studio, games) to highly specific tasks (Cubase actions). Would have loved a wireless version (similar to my Harmony remote) for the upgrade as right now it’s the only wire on my desk. Nothing else I’d change. Faceplate change is useless for me but I acknowledge embedding has become even more seductive now.
@TheChameleon2008
2 жыл бұрын
oh yes, i want a bluetooth version so badly!!!! maybe 1 that would also work on ios/android.
Can it switch between webcams? Thanks.
I don’t care for hype. To me, it’s a fun time streaming and watch streams with it, what makes a game good. Easy as that.
Bought the original 15 key a few days ago for $100. Great value at that price, and i couldnt pass it up.
I currently use the stream deck app but honestly I think I’m gonna need to get the OG stream deck, on Amazon right now the mark 2 is like £40-£50 ($55-$70) more expensive, and while it has some nice improvements over the OG one it’s not worth that much more
The real power or stream deck is unleashed by the "Bitfocus companion", before that addition, stream deck is "fine"... but with that it becomes the central piece or large scale studio productions. Come to Finland behind almost any live broadcast and you'll see tons and tons of stream decks running companion and communicating across network to control anything from PTZ-cameras, vMix computers, play-out computers to audio mixers. Stream Deck hardware is mature and reliable enough, it's the bitfocus companion, the software, that makes it a professional piece of kit.
loupedeck live is what I want but since this just dropped idk who to go for
2:02 Those are OLED screens... I use a couple of them as a button box for my racing rig.. and they are showing burn in from displaying the same image..
@EposVox
11 ай бұрын
Stream Decks do not use OLED
Still missing a MIDI control input for musicians that would be great feature
@aaronbarber6238
3 жыл бұрын
With the crazy amount of controllers we have, why would we need the stream deck to have MIDI? I’m a music streamer, I definitely need a stream deck for what I do, but can’t think of any reason it would need MIDI though.
Basically it's a zapier with physical keys. Or IFFFT but in hardware form
Where did you get your icons?
so is it worth to buy the mk2 $150 or just the old one$130? let me know plz.
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
I think there’s a video that answers this question. It’s above the comment section
So I can program every button to perform any keystroke if I want? Also can I use my own artwork to show up for each individual button?
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
Yep
You mentioned a link to what custom clamps or whatever for your Streamdeck..but didn't see it, did I miss it? I'm a teacher, got a stream deck last year, used with OBS...but it really is fun to use with all the other tools I use for my classes (opening up software like a graphing calculator or whiteboard software, a magnifier, lesson plans, do nows, 'breaking news alerts') which I was using all the time. So, yeah...I would recommend for anyone to get one, to use with workflow (and of course streaming). I do wish Elgato had come up with a cooler version of the streamdeck...like a different shape or something. But, if I wanted to spend the time and buy the new version...I guess (with some limitations like key placement)...someone could make a new casing...with LED lights...clear case...with sound changing...*ponders*
@EposVox
3 жыл бұрын
It was in the description: www.etsy.com/shop/AD3DStore
@DarthKalkillus
3 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox missed it..THANKS!
What about the Stream Deck Mini? Does it come as a Mk2 with detachable cable?
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
No
I feel like THE stream deck is more worth now then before because when it got realeased it had almost No plugins
In a post-apocalypse world stream decks will be the new currency :P
Ya hair is cool bro. I can tell your soul told you to do that cause it doesn't look right on most people. It's YOU. - cool confidence.
Disapointed in SD. It feel like Corsair are letting this IP go stale. Was realy hoping for a Orbweaver type gaming key pad with an SD type interface built in by now.
Sorry, I just spelled Steam Deck wrong.
BarRaider's support Discord has just over 4000 members. Given they are all there to use his Stream Deck Plugins, we can infer there are at least that many people with Stream Decks. lol. He has lot's of plugins and they are not all focused on streaming...
Can I use the new stream deck software with the old stream deck?
@EposVox
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there’s not separate versions for the devices
I will still to my iPad mini with Touch Portal on it. At least my iPad can do other things too.
All I want them to do in the software is to all us the ability to change the size of the areas in it. Scrolling in each new key that has a lot of info or settings is sooooooooooooo annoying! It's 2021 and a half and we have been forced to scroll in that tiny little area to change settings. FML 😓
I never understood what a stream deck was for but I always thought it was cool but super expensive
@EposVox Can I configure the icons etc on one Pc like my personal one and still use the stream deck with another Pc(work), where they block me downloading third party apps? Thank you.
@EposVox
2 жыл бұрын
The software has to run on the PC you’re using it on
@patebo
2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox bummer! Thank you for your quick response!