Is a Shorter Length Driver Better for Your Game? // Driver Length Distance & Accuracy Test

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Testing two identical drivers at 45" and 43.5" playing lengths. Find out what differences occur in distance and accuracy!
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  • @meicalpovey26
    @meicalpovey264 жыл бұрын

    These tests always seem to be done with decent quality players. I'd love to see this with a mid-handicapper. I anticipate these results would be stronger in favour of shorter drivers.

  • @countach711

    @countach711

    3 жыл бұрын

    The guy they almost always use is way beyond decent, otherwise I agree with you 100%!

  • @Zerpersande

    @Zerpersande

    3 жыл бұрын

    I cut a shaft down to the same length as a 7 iron. Actually played decently.

  • @nickpritchard7130

    @nickpritchard7130

    3 жыл бұрын

    It all makes sense. Shorter driver more accuracy, but weight must be added to the head. Is there a formula for how much is taken off the shaft to how much weight has to be added to the head??

  • @Zerpersande

    @Zerpersande

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nickpritchard7130 A swing weight scale isn’t expensive and lets you adjust your swing weights not just for shaft length changes bit also when changing grips.

  • @Zerpersande

    @Zerpersande

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I read a comment about Matt recently saying that he could hit a can of cream corn tied to a broomstick 300 yds.

  • @mh_golfer
    @mh_golfer4 жыл бұрын

    I am 6' 2" and switched to a 44" driver about a month ago and couldn't be happier. At first, I lost about 5 yards of distance on average but my number of fairways went up by 25% right away. As I have built more and more confidence with the club, my distance has also increased to the point where I am hitting it about 10 yards further.

  • @BigDawgCAM

    @BigDawgCAM

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m 6’3” and going to do that for the upcoming season! Making all my woods shorter for consistency: Driver: 44” 3 Wood: 43” 5 Wood: 42”

  • 3 ай бұрын

    10:56 10:56

  • @davidgordon4386
    @davidgordon43864 жыл бұрын

    I love the way Matt says he would "consider it"...What's to consider? Longer and more consistent. The ego is a strange thing. I would imagine 44" and no more would be the deal.

  • @clubchampionmedia

    @clubchampionmedia

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was a 20 minute session with a shaft I don’t even use, I wouldn’t decide anything based on that for my own game

  • @derekcavensmusic

    @derekcavensmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GT-1902 you clearly dont follow the channel, matty can hit a putter 300 yards, he has much more effecient setups.

  • @robertharper874
    @robertharper8744 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE THIS because everyone that has a high handicap are not bad iron players often it's the driver. I went to a shorter driver and my handicap dropped, so THANK YOU for this video

  • @nickpritchard7130
    @nickpritchard71303 жыл бұрын

    Tried a shorter driver, 44.75 no weight added. Hit my handicap of 7. Straighter drives off the tee. No loss of distance..Happy days. Great vid, thanks guys.

  • @TC-ps9sd
    @TC-ps9sd4 жыл бұрын

    Love it when TXG demonstrates a concept. It's one thing to talk about it, but to show it helps me learn it.

  • @TheOgieone
    @TheOgieone4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic info!....I dropped to a 44.25" shaft after watching your video a couple years ago, game changer in terms of accuracy & distance.👍

  • @bradkring2635
    @bradkring26354 жыл бұрын

    You guys.... keep doing what you're doing, so much good information!!

  • @matthewbenger754
    @matthewbenger7544 жыл бұрын

    You guys provide some great information for your viewers. I’m learning all sorts of stuff that I never knew since subscribing 👌 love your work

  • @leejordan7252
    @leejordan72524 жыл бұрын

    this has to be one of the best golf channels for explaining tech and how it works.

  • @ricktwist1935

    @ricktwist1935

    3 жыл бұрын

    Last comment in of all the guys that I watch Rick Shiels Michael Newton you are the one that I would come to for a driver fitting I probably could get a few extra yards but I still need an extra stiff and 9 1/2 is good and I cannot afford to go to Canada right now but you you two are the best at testing equipment equipment on KZread

  • @BW-ze3mg
    @BW-ze3mg4 жыл бұрын

    That shirt... I thought he just walked in from a 90 degree day on the course 😂

  • @Laxrocks571

    @Laxrocks571

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like ran a marathon 😂

  • @Arkslippy

    @Arkslippy

    4 жыл бұрын

    It has a camo splash built in. My shirts have a more natural pattern that varies !!

  • @robertmayer1497

    @robertmayer1497

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ian needs a bibb before his Grape juice!

  • @stevengriffin5349

    @stevengriffin5349

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they are not scoring tour pro money ; giving lessons , mowing greens , washing carts .

  • @lawrencebogar6136

    @lawrencebogar6136

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Arkslippy Galvin Green shirts are not inexpensive.

  • @ChampBuggy
    @ChampBuggy3 жыл бұрын

    This is so spot on. I just made a switch in length in my driver. I switched from a 68g 45" shaft to a 77g 44-1/4" length to maintain my D3 swingweight. The heavier shaft allowed me to not have to add so much weight to the head and balance the club better. Otherwise it felt like I was swinging a 25lb sledge hammer. Anyway, I have seen on the average a 40% increase in fwy's hit and have not lost any distance. Maybe increased it because of efficiency. This has changed my game. I recommend everybody trying this for themselves. I believe they will be surprised and probably would game it. Thanks for the great videos.!

  • @simonsouthby-ryland7431
    @simonsouthby-ryland74314 жыл бұрын

    Hi, great vid. Went for a fitting for a driver at Golf Principles in the UK about 5 years ago, shortened my driver by an inch to 44.5" and added another 10 grams in head to compensate...absolute game changer. Recently changed to the Mavrik head and was 'lockdown bored' so tried with the standard 5g weight, was all over the place, amazing what difference 10g makes...so important you get a fitter who knows what he's doing to help. Cheers guys keep the great content coming

  • @Jonse87
    @Jonse874 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a similar video on iron shaft length! Keep up the great work guys - TXG is easily on the most interesting and educational golf channels on KZread 👍🏻

  • @christopherrogge7016
    @christopherrogge70164 жыл бұрын

    Great test....I got fitted into a 44.5, from 45.75, I've had similar results, more center of face contact = better efficiency. Also, I think side spin control is vastly improved, even on slight heel/toe strikes, due to the stiffer shaft result of shortening. It would have been nice to see, a 46.5 inch setup in this test to help the "off the shelf" buyers realize the importance of a quality fitting. Thanks for all the great work Ian and Matt!! Chris Rogge - Minneapolis

  • @persndergaard1108
    @persndergaard11084 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys, one more great video. I got the F9 tour version last year, with more weight put in the head. Whent from 102-104 ss to 100-102 but in average gained 8 mtr. And im finding way more fairway/first cut. So works great for me. Big thx from Denmark, keep up the exillent work. Hope you are getting out in the open and play some, now CA is open again. Be safe both of you. Best regards from Per S - DK

  • @DanielRodrigues-hn8cx
    @DanielRodrigues-hn8cx4 жыл бұрын

    Great content as usual! Guilty as charged as someone who has cut down a shaft without taking the proper steps afterward to adjust the swingweight.

  • @stephenmoxley3004
    @stephenmoxley30044 жыл бұрын

    Great video, guys. I've been a proponent of the shorter shaft length for a long time. I think I first learned about it from Tom Wishon. It really does work. And thanks for mentioning the corrections with weight and flex that happen when the length is shortened. Keep up the good work.

  • @dcm703
    @dcm7034 жыл бұрын

    I have a Sim Max that was built to their standard length (Hzrdus Smoke Green 70x). A few weeks ago I was experimenting choking up a couple inches which puts it a shade under 44”. I love it, I think I am actually hitting it farther and this video went a long way in explaining why. I also feel like I have more confidence to go after it a little more and still be hitting the center of the club face. Great video.

  • @rlake349
    @rlake3494 жыл бұрын

    Strike is still king! Long driver shafts are still stupid for most golfers. Also under the stress of competition every factor magnifies. Been playing at 43.75 D2 for years but my golfing buddies are unwilling to change their point of view from the rough.

  • @alanwaterworth6464
    @alanwaterworth64644 жыл бұрын

    Great video again, this confirms what happened when I tried out a slightly shorter driver and for the first time in my life, hit every single fairway. I´ve since bought the same club, just waiting for it to arrive :)

  • @Boss302ATC
    @Boss302ATC4 жыл бұрын

    Would've been interesting to see him struggling with the club with a cut down shaft in it without the work to make it balanced, and then balance it. Show off how much the build really matters!

  • @davidpoore5480

    @davidpoore5480

    4 жыл бұрын

    TXG filmed a video either early this year, or late last year, where they changed swing weights dramatically with the same club. Matty Boy did not swing the light (C8?) or heavy (D8?) very well. Worth the watch to see how Ian changed the swing weight as much as he did. It was educational.

  • @concretewalzz

    @concretewalzz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, yet I was thinking the same thing. Don't do all the head weight adjustments to see those results ;)

  • @nicholasballard2836

    @nicholasballard2836

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would have liked to see that in this video to highlight the need in order to stop someone getting over excited and chopping their driver down before moaning about how TXG ruined his club

  • @termides

    @termides

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's fair and I would like to see the same thing. How do you add head weight? You can't just use lead tape to add 18 g

  • @patrickdennis5986
    @patrickdennis59864 жыл бұрын

    I got fitted for a Titleist TS3 at the Titleist Performance Institue in California... We tested all sorts of combinations. I am 6'4" with long arms and generate pretty good clubhead/ball speed. The final two tweaks he tried were the first of the day where he didn't tell me what changes he was making. He gave me a 44.5 and a 45 and compared the results to the (standard) 45.5 ... He swapped back and forth a few times and it turned out the 45" absolutely gave me not only the tightest dispersion but actually slightly longer distance than the shaft 0.5" longer. Was not surprised by more control but was surprised not to lose distance. The differences weren't enormous, but they were consistent. Ordered it, and am *so* happy with it a year later. Didn't imagine a shorter shaft would be part of my solution.

  • @paulp2055
    @paulp20554 жыл бұрын

    When I got fitted for my PingG400 the Ping fitter put me in a 1” shorter shaft (44 3/4) it made a huge difference in my strike and dispersion...I’m hitting more fairways and no lose of distance!

  • @diogeneslantern18

    @diogeneslantern18

    3 жыл бұрын

    How tall are you? I'm 5'8 with a wrist to floor of 33"

  • @josephdubiel7129
    @josephdubiel71294 жыл бұрын

    I am playing with a Ping G 410 SFT driver at 43.5 inches long. Seems to be perfect for me. My control and quality of strike are by far better than anything longer. Good review. Joe

  • @morgancross5481
    @morgancross54814 жыл бұрын

    Love the results, just what you'd expect. Even though the longer driver seemed to have the ability to get out there a little further, variability in strike point brings down the overall average. Seems like Matt could maybe be a 44"-44.5" guy. I've always loved the ability to add head weight as well, not only to compensate for the shorter length but to move CG around even more.

  • @davidminchin9469
    @davidminchin94694 жыл бұрын

    Yet again, fantastic content and a real insight into your vast knowledge, if only every club-fitter was as knowledgeable.

  • @ileksoku

    @ileksoku

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you add weight back? I'm interested too

  • @johnkraus5454
    @johnkraus54544 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed with the 44.5" driver I'm playing now I seem to be less over the top which has helped me straighten my slice. Purchased additional heavier weight to bring swing weight back to D2. So far so good.

  • @romanofanfoni555
    @romanofanfoni5552 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, I have been advocating this forever and no one believes me. I personally only play at 44.5" Well done , absolutely convinced now. Thank you

  • @bradholomek9493
    @bradholomek94934 жыл бұрын

    Always great information! Went back to my fitter, having some issues squaring up my sim max. We went 10gms lighter on the shaft and went to the sim max D. Picked up 5 mph ball speed!

  • @clubchampionmedia

    @clubchampionmedia

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sim Max D is a great driver!!

  • @geoffc15
    @geoffc154 жыл бұрын

    I got fitted by Club Champion into a 45” Ventus Blue 7x for my TS2. Maintained swing speed at ~115 but gained strike and delivery improved.

  • @marco_gallone
    @marco_gallone Жыл бұрын

    I am glad I found this. I lopped off 1 inch and changed the grip (removed the arccoss sensor) from my Cobra King F9 (D3) totalling nearly 2 full inches and substantial weight off of the grip end of the shaft. Per Ians assessment that's nearly 12 swing weight points, my driver has been pretty terrible since - makes sense because its about C1. I thought it was me, some lead tape seemed to fix it!

  • @tommywestfall432
    @tommywestfall4324 жыл бұрын

    I noticed it a couple videos ago and now I can't stop seeing Dyanmic Loft spelled wrong lol Great video as always gents!

  • @nateklaphake
    @nateklaphake4 жыл бұрын

    Went down to 44" on my driver and I found it more controlable for me. SS went down from 115 mph to about 113 mph but ball speed and length actually went up as my smash factor went up to 1.44 from 1.39. So far its working well for me. Maybe when I get a little better I will try to go back up to the 45" range but for the foreseeable future I am liking the fairway to much!

  • @andrewkorponic2561
    @andrewkorponic25614 жыл бұрын

    Would have liked to see the build of changing the swing weight in the shorter shaft. Great video.

  • @bobbykrechuniak8875
    @bobbykrechuniak88754 жыл бұрын

    That strike pattern was nutty! Great video guys

  • @RadioJack
    @RadioJack3 жыл бұрын

    I have a Callaway Rogue Sub-Zero with an 18g in the front and 12g in the back with a 6.5 HZRDUS Yellow. Adding the extra weight definitely helped making this a more consistent and predictable club compared to the 2 and 5 I bought it used with

  • @njamesthomasl
    @njamesthomasl4 жыл бұрын

    Made this exact change last week to my M3. Easy to add the weight back into the head using the track system. Distance is the same accuracy is far tighter.

  • @oliveroshea2913
    @oliveroshea29134 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lads, video perfectly backs me up on the 'nonsense' i have been saying to my playing partners. Got a Taylormade M5 at 8.5* that i changed the shaft to a 43.25" Tensei Red S (50g) instead of 45.75" Tensei Orange S (60g). Jump in Efficiency from 1.25 to 1.44 average and very similar swing speed (within 109 instead of 110) End result is 12.9* launch angle, 2300rpm spin, about 160mph ball speed and hitting nearly every fairway i try for. Thanks for the backup :)

  • @lonjas8055

    @lonjas8055

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered a PXG gen 2 driver with similar specs hoping to find more fairways because I often find myself trouble with the driver

  • @canyonaro

    @canyonaro

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is a great idea! The lighter shaft helps mitigate the swing speed loss and keeps the swingweight up without having to add a bunch of head weight.

  • @johnschwartz1536
    @johnschwartz15362 жыл бұрын

    I have been hitting mostly Cleveland and Taylor Made drivers with regular shafts and gram weights of around 280. I have always thought that the shaft was the most important part of the club in fitting out your feel. The heads were mostly 440 cc or 460 cc and the shafts measured out at around 45 3/4 inches. However, sometimes the weight of the head did not match up with the shaft. I am now experimenting with a 460 cc head and a R 45 inch shaft. These were not fitted clubs, but off the rack or barrel. Now, in watching your video, it is best to match up head, shaft, and length. Excellent video!

  • @parmanduke
    @parmanduke4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for bringing Tour Van knowledge to us average Joes. Another awesome and eye opening video.

  • @MK355
    @MK3554 жыл бұрын

    Love this, so interesting seeing the results

  • @timothydaniels504
    @timothydaniels5044 жыл бұрын

    One of the things that led me to TXG was using my wife’s Ping i something or other, for 9 holes. It’s lighter and shorter than the driver I was using at the time, a Titleist 925 D, the relic, as Chris Kendall called it. The Rogue driver with a Mitsubishi shaft he fitted me with has been incredible but the one thing I wonder about occasionally is how a shaft

  • @jdavis6650
    @jdavis66503 жыл бұрын

    Gents--you both have great swings. As an older player, I admire your swings and lengths. I've lost distance but can still put it out there. I would love to see more vids that show players with slower club head speeds than Matt. Maybe someone in the 100-105 mph. Thanks for considering.

  • @paulshepherd27
    @paulshepherd274 жыл бұрын

    I had my Oban shaft shortened in order to hit more fairways but never had additional weight added to the head? I certainly found more of the right side of the course.... this was a two year experiment which ultimately led me to a new lighter shafted driver with standard head. It was the M2 + Matrix Ozix white. 50g. A massive difference to me personally. Good review of the issue chaps.👏🏻

  • @cpcanales76
    @cpcanales764 жыл бұрын

    As always great content. I switched to a tensi orange from a stock alta in my G410 driver. The tensi is a little shorter but i hit it higher a little further and most important straighter!!

  • @phillipvircks

    @phillipvircks

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use the same tensei orange shaft, shortened a half inch on the handle side. The Alta was a nice shaft, but the shortened Tensei Orange is far more stable. I can swing ALMOST as hard as I want and will hit most fairways.

  • @seancook2264
    @seancook22644 жыл бұрын

    I used to play a Cobra ZL with a circa 3w length shaft as an experiment. Did not go quite as long but it was certainly a fairway finder. Worked great for a spell before going back to 44.5” R9 Supertri

  • @aaron_b.
    @aaron_b.4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I always get my drivers cut down, ranging from 43"-44.5". I think I've settled on 44", works most optimally balancing between not losing too much distance while finding more fairways. Getting the swingweight back up is always the biggest challenge, but fortunately in Arizona there are a lot of good fitters around.

  • @gatorsrock57

    @gatorsrock57

    Жыл бұрын

    Super late reply, but can I ask how tall are you?

  • @aaron_b.

    @aaron_b.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gatorsrock57 5'11" but I think my wingspan is shorter than that.

  • @jakegidley7812
    @jakegidley78123 жыл бұрын

    So I’m a 12 handicapper. Been using a TM R11 driver until this July. Switched to the TM SIM. I’ve went from consistently straight, 250 yards to going right, 225 yards. The SIM is 1/2” longer. Really glad to see this video. Confirms what I was thinking

  • @ablazer1241
    @ablazer12414 жыл бұрын

    I'm gaming a PG400 LST driver, With a rouge silver 60 at 43 3⁄4 playing length, head weight is 212 grams That brought it up to D3 swing weight, Its the best thing I've ever done, hitting more fairways Any distance loss is negligible. Best KZread channel out there !!!!!!

  • @lanmurgatroyd9503
    @lanmurgatroyd95034 жыл бұрын

    Excellent info Loads of people have shortened shafts without replacing weight and junked it after 1 round...

  • @danielgronskog

    @danielgronskog

    4 жыл бұрын

    I understand you need to add weight to compensate for the swing weight BUT what does it affect regarding the performance? What will you see if you cut the shaft 1" but don't change the weight in the head? :)

  • @christopherpatterson4851
    @christopherpatterson48514 жыл бұрын

    I bought a King LTD, put it on a Black-Rie 60-gram standard length shaft, and was working it hard to reduce spin. Shots were just ballooning out no matter where I hit. I switched to a Hzrdus Black 70 gran plus 1, and am hitting longer, and straighter drives than before. Of course, practice and lessons helped tremendously!!!

  • @Taylor510ce
    @Taylor510ce2 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys, and very applicable to my purchase today. I purchased Mavrik Max w/a Ventus Blue 6 S Velocore that has been adjusted down 1". What swing weight might you suggest now that it's been adjusted down 1"?

  • @geoffgray1166
    @geoffgray11664 жыл бұрын

    Great video, had a Taylormade fit a few years ago and got put in a 12 deg M6 with a Proforce V2 7f4 shaft but the whole club was at 44.5”. But the fitter never mentioned the swing weight, what sort of swing weight might it of come out at and how much extra weight might you need to put on the head . Great channel

  • @MrJoshB11
    @MrJoshB114 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff fellas! I put my 3 wood shaft into my F9 driver last week and added the 18 gram weight and 10 gram weight. I didn't really lose any distance and hit some straighter drives. Cobra's sleeve can be switched between fairways and drivers unlike some other manufacturers. Awesome stuff!

  • @saulgoodeguitars

    @saulgoodeguitars

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thinking of doing the same with my 5 wood shaft but I’d have to buy weights

  • @MrJoshB11

    @MrJoshB11

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@saulgoodeguitars if you like to tinker, I think it's worth it to buy extra weights. Also Cobragolf.com usually gives you a buy 3 get 1 free plus you can often times find discount codes for cobra on coupon sites

  • @claytonjohnston25
    @claytonjohnston254 жыл бұрын

    Playing the new SZ at 44.5”! Better overall feel. Good strikes too!

  • @eagleeye7068
    @eagleeye70684 жыл бұрын

    The way Matt is swinging right now you could put a driver head on a wedge shaft and he would hit it well...properly weighted of course. Good stuff fellas.

  • @lukewanless9982
    @lukewanless99824 жыл бұрын

    Wacked a 44inch shaft in a couple months ago was ok when the swing was at the peak of the season but since returning after covid lossing the head, whacked 9grams of lead tape looking forward to playing tomorrow.

  • @dcfox10
    @dcfox103 жыл бұрын

    @TXG Tour Experience Golf, with reduced swing weight and a steeper lie from the shorter shaft, will I need more or less loft to produce similar ball flight? I typically play 10 degrees with my 46" shaft, which has been cut down to 44.5". Thank you for what you guys do! Your channel is amazing!

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson93604 жыл бұрын

    For me, with my swing and a standard Epic, shortening from 45.25" to 44.5" made me more accurate. I have done a lot of work on my swing and when we are able to practice again to get back into the groove I had wondered what would happen if I went back to the longer shaft. Not sure there is much point from this video

  • @rufussthoo4083
    @rufussthoo40834 жыл бұрын

    My old driver was 45 3/4" and I always struggled to get comfortable swinging it. It was mainly a visual thing. Every time I pulled it out of the bag I'd think "there's no way I can swing this VW Beetle-on-a-stick." And invariably, I couldn't. My new driver is 45" and the difference was immediate. The new one no longer 'looks' too big to swing; it doesn't 'feel' cumbersome in my hands. Every time I pull it out of the bag I think "I can really swing this thing." And invariably, I do. :-)

  • @terrydudley6860

    @terrydudley6860

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel the exact same way..to me the shorter just feels better

  • @jbspullins1725
    @jbspullins17254 жыл бұрын

    Great video , thanks for answering the ball fitting questions. Keep getting recommended pro v1x or tp5x . Thinking a proper fitting is in order. Appreciate the content. Thanks again.

  • @clubchampionmedia

    @clubchampionmedia

    4 жыл бұрын

    prov1x and tp5x are very different balls, make sure you test both

  • @kylejeffery89
    @kylejeffery894 жыл бұрын

    I've got a Cobra F8 playing at 44" right now. Has improved my strike massively.

  • @Mizman76

    @Mizman76

    4 жыл бұрын

    F8 is a VERY underrated driver and the sound is PHENOMENAL.

  • @kylejeffery89

    @kylejeffery89

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mizman76 I all too often think of replacing it. Then I go out to play a round, like today, and just hit bombs. It's a great driver!

  • @zzcurve1141

    @zzcurve1141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kylejeffery89 If its working don't change a thing!

  • @kourt2469
    @kourt24693 жыл бұрын

    I played a 43.5 inch driver for several years now. I noticed the first few months my speed was slightly slower with the shorter length, but what I noticed was as the years went on and I kept hitting the middle time after time with the shorter length, my confidence grew and I was able to swing even faster without worrying about missing the center.

  • @samrad1745

    @samrad1745

    Жыл бұрын

    did u have to add weight and where?

  • @kourt2469

    @kourt2469

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samrad1745 yes the driver I used was a Wishon 919 THi driver and it has weight ports in the hosel and sole so I added the weight when I built it.

  • @ajbusse502
    @ajbusse5024 жыл бұрын

    Really good video. I’m interested in the topic. Good to look at what could be with having mr golf swing machine test. Would be interested in what a 10 handicap gets out of this. You could probably say from all your fitting experience. Thanks!

  • @trex9368
    @trex9368 Жыл бұрын

    Been researching this subject as well. Back in the day I used a Probe Driver at 44 and was a 4 hdcp. Now much older but very fit I have a love hate with my current G425Max. I'm going go give this a try soon. Thanks for a very informative video.

  • @charlesbartholomew2910
    @charlesbartholomew29104 жыл бұрын

    I built myself a set of irons with graphite shafts. Initially built them to the "standard graphite shaft" lengths to achieve the proper swing weights. I found that I did not like them at the longer lengths as they were not quite as consistent as my steel shafted irons of the same head. I shortened them to match the length of my steel shafted irons, 1/2" under standard length. After doing this I weighted the heads with lead tape to bring the swing weights up. They are now at D 2 for 3 iron through 9 iron and D 2.5 for pitching wedge, gap wedge and sand wedge. My consistency has returned and I am beginning to really like them.

  • @davidwinstone2085
    @davidwinstone20854 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a follow up video on the build of the shorter club. And show how all the weight got put in it.

  • @Zerpersande

    @Zerpersande

    3 жыл бұрын

    I cut an inch off my new Epic Max and it too about 10g of lead tape to bring the swing weight up to where I like it, a D3.

  • @downsouth1678

    @downsouth1678

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Zerpersande but lead tape looks terrible on a new driver

  • @jamesjackson4264

    @jamesjackson4264

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@downsouth1678 so do missed FWs.

  • @mjbone23
    @mjbone234 жыл бұрын

    Great video... I’ve got a shorter g400 lst that I can’t replace because of how good the efficiency is. I sometimes see ratios above 1.50 on trackman.

  • @OriginalGollie
    @OriginalGollie4 жыл бұрын

    When I shortened my shaft then I tried adding the weight to keep swing weight but then the shaft felt off and I felt slow. I ended up adding some weight but not as much as the calcs say. I think I’m sensitive to overall weight a little more than swing weight. For me, going to 44.5” definitely felt more controllable though. That said, my swing was a bit handsy....now that I’ve changed swing to be less handsy I think I’m less sensitive to the club length.

  • @tms299
    @tms2992 жыл бұрын

    When I got back into golf and did some reading about shaft lengths and shorter drivers actually helping my driver at the time was a ping anser and I cut it down to 42.5 and went from slicing to hitting slight fades. Switched from that driver to a Wilson staff c300 and again cut this one down but this time to 43.5 and after fixing my take away because I found I was opening my club face to much in my take away, I basically eliminated missing right because I was drawing everything including my driver now. This year I’ve switched drivers again to a cobra speedzone and before cutting it down I went and hit it and stock length which was 45” and was still drawing it but occasionally had the miss right. Regripped it and cut it down to 44”. With my Wilson that was at 43.5” I still had 260-270 yards of carry with it rolling out to 280-290 which is plenty deep enough for me. Once I read that most tour pros use drivers under 45” to help with dispersion I decided I was going to as well. I don’t feel like I’m losing any distance and now get the ball in the fairway more often which makes the game more fun. Keep up the great videos guys! Love the content.

  • @chadmoller6238
    @chadmoller62384 жыл бұрын

    I'm 6-foot-5 so I have to play longer shaft, I go plus 2 inches. Just picked up my new Mavrik Max today, can't wait to test it out. Of course, you know how it goes, I played in a scramble Monday and hit the crap out of my Rogue that I just traded in. Had a couple bombs including one that was right around 290.

  • @scottlaura6728
    @scottlaura67283 жыл бұрын

    I’m struggling with new woods. The old wood swing weights were C7. The new ones are D6. I got fit for the new sticks and there was no discussion of swing weight. I’m going to adjust the new clubs to a lower swing weight. Should the woods match the irons swing weight or should they be a bit heavier? Love the videos!

  • @chrislutze1155
    @chrislutze11554 жыл бұрын

    I used a Callaway xr, 46.5" shaft. I went for a fitting and got fit to a taylormades m5 in a 44.5" shaft. I started missing a lot of shots off the toe, almost to the point of missing the face. I like how you added weight to offset the difference. Could that have been some of my issue or is it more due to my swing?

  • @pocwave445
    @pocwave4454 жыл бұрын

    Have you guys ever discussed MOI fitting rather than swingweight fitting? Would be interesting in this discussion.

  • @EdwardBailey
    @EdwardBailey4 жыл бұрын

    I'm 6' 1" and play a 43.5" driver. I do hit way more fairways and have not lost distance. I did add (6) grams to the head as the one I use has changeable weights. I played with the setup at the range between weight and loft and found a good fit and feel for me.

  • @Tommy-qp5bi
    @Tommy-qp5bi4 жыл бұрын

    I need lessons with Matt on hitting my driver, he's got a pure swing!

  • @markthegolfaddict9051
    @markthegolfaddict90514 жыл бұрын

    Did this with a 23* hybrid and it was magic. Built in yo 38.5 inches and it was the perfect 4 iron replacement

  • @schuty2799
    @schuty27992 жыл бұрын

    For me personally I've actually seen the opposite of what Matt was saying with regards to more club head speed. When I got fitted originally for my Sim2 I was swinging around 95mph but I had to slow down to 85ish to maintain accuracy. We cut 2 1/4 inches off my driver and now I have so much more control I can comfortably get to 97+ mph with better accuracy (no change in head weight however so that could be a factor)

  • @richgrose3308
    @richgrose33083 жыл бұрын

    Do you guys ever show what you do in the build shop? I would have like to see the process for this video

  • @devanmacdonald8924
    @devanmacdonald89244 жыл бұрын

    I play the f9 at 44.25 and haven't lost distance because of the change in technology (my last driver was the original m1). It is so easy to hit the centre of the face!

  • @erikaddison6225
    @erikaddison62252 жыл бұрын

    I think this some what answers the question of should you shorten your club or choke down. From another video i watched, choking down effects the swing weight almost the same as just shortening the shaft. So choking down could actually put your swing weight into a C8 / Undesirable situation. Cutting and reweighting the club like they showed really seems like the proper way to shorten a club for more accurate ball striking.

  • @roejye06
    @roejye064 жыл бұрын

    Last year I was using a Taylormade r7 superquad, standard shaft length. I was hitting it well but was reticent about a then 12 year old driver head. Went to my preferred store to try newer drivers, salesperson grabs me a r1s out of the clearance bin. It's got a 43 inch shaft in it and it's a little lighter. I've actually gained distance (could very well be technique related too) and I'm hitting it quite well for my handicap.

  • @nfc33
    @nfc334 жыл бұрын

    well done guys, another interesting video!! was the shorter shaft trimmed from the butt or tip end? i want want to try it with an old shaft

  • @kylenathe4073
    @kylenathe40734 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! Was the 1.5” cut only from butt or did you take some off both tip & butt? Wondering how added head weight will affect shaft performance...do you tip it say .5” and take the other inch off the butt? Thanks again!!

  • @damienfarrell9475
    @damienfarrell94754 жыл бұрын

    I wish you guy were in Oz . I recently switch from a M3 to a Mini Drive to gain some accuracy and confidence off the tee. Seems to have worked so I’m now going to try a driver again and see if the strike stays similar and I get a little more distance. May be a short lived experiment

  • @malcolmjedge7861
    @malcolmjedge78614 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting test. By increasing the static head weight does this improve energy transfer, hence the increase in strike efficiency?

  • @henryfriesen4459
    @henryfriesen44594 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Great video. Question u have is why would my 3 wood (R15) go further then my driver (M4) both just bought of the shelf so im sure a fit would fix most of it?

  • @nick8339
    @nick83394 жыл бұрын

    I went all the way down to 42. It's like magic. 5 yards shorter on average, but being able to walk up to the tee with no brain worms and swinging freely has helped me so much.

  • @Rajiujitsu206

    @Rajiujitsu206

    3 жыл бұрын

    How did you figure out 42 inches was the length for you?

  • @philiproddis6452
    @philiproddis64524 жыл бұрын

    This is something I am very interested in. I hit my 3 wood very consistent but my driver is a bit all over the face. I definitely feel it’s because of the length. I was even debating getting the same 3 wood but stronger lofted for of the tee. What’s your thoughts on 3 woods replacing driver? Obviously lose distance.

  • @donnachalyons3904
    @donnachalyons39044 жыл бұрын

    I put a 3+ shaft in my M1 2016 driver 10.5*, add a second weight to the front track lofted it up to 11.25* made it a low spin monster. More centre hits and more fairways

  • @agustinfeliciano9715
    @agustinfeliciano97154 жыл бұрын

    Another Great one !!!!

  • @grantmather9979
    @grantmather99794 жыл бұрын

    Hi Guys, love watching your video's, is the old swing weight machine as accurate as new tech? Swing weighting drivers without weighs is lead tape the only option? I've found that if lead is added down shaft it makes the toe of driver turn over faster.

  • @stefanrhonnstad4014
    @stefanrhonnstad40143 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys! Playing Mavrik Std w Evenflow 50S that I will cut 1” to 44.75” and adding 12gr of weight to the club head to get back to D2. How do I do this in the best way?

  • @gregoryw9
    @gregoryw94 жыл бұрын

    Fitted Ping G400 Tour AD MT-6s at 44.5” and it’s a fairway finder and decent length, mates always envious when I’m on the tee

  • @MrJoshB11
    @MrJoshB114 жыл бұрын

    What would you guys say about loft in conjunction with this? Would you start by lowering, staying or increasing loft? I lowered loft by a degree and it seems good.

  • @fezzer5315
    @fezzer53154 жыл бұрын

    An unbelievable set of ball striking with the 43.5 inch wow. Got most distance 330 as well.

  • @dannykosifou175
    @dannykosifou1754 жыл бұрын

    I play my F9 at 43.5" - and the biggest thing for me is how much more upright at address it makes me, and also the plane of my swing. Sooo much better than with the stock shaft in there. Distance is about the same, but I'm definitely more consistent shorter.

  • @JSGolfer
    @JSGolfer4 жыл бұрын

    Love to know what would happen if you were to make a 43.5” 430cc driver with a tad more loft like an older school driver, was interested in trying that with a ts4 😅😅

  • @adammessinger1137
    @adammessinger11374 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys. I’ve been thinking of taking 1/2” off for quite a while. Instead of increasing head weight, could I switch to a 6-8g lighter grip to get the same effect?

  • @kourt2469

    @kourt2469

    4 жыл бұрын

    Before cutting anything and making it permanent Just grip down on the club a 1/2 - 1" and go hit a small bucket of balls. If you hit the ball just fine and the feel is fine don't worry about adding weight, If when hitting you feel like it's too light, start adding a little lead tape every 5 shots until it feels like you want it. Then pull the lead tape off, weigh the tape you removed and you'll now know exactly how much weight to add without having done any permanent modification to the club yet, if you don't want to add any excess weight a slighter lighter grip can help but not as easy to dial in as adding weight to the head.

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